Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the we-don't-know-much dept.
Several people have reported that the US has begun military operations in Afghanistan. Bush is talking on CNN live right now. Bombing has begun on Kabul. More as we know it. Here the word
a on CNN and The CBC.
Being on a college campus, I have watched the local communist/socialist groups since the day of the attacks condemning the bloody war America was waging. Despite the fact that not a shot had been fired.
Well, its been several weeks now, and our government has looked for the most peaceful solution possible. The fact that that taliban was unwilling to cooperate even in the slightest makes the bombing both justified, and appropriate.
I really dread the rhetoric of those who think that we should just do nothing.
Yeah, that's a great idea... why don't we let criminals form their own judges and jury, and try themselves! Brilliant! That's the way to solve crime.
I don't think that's what a "jury of their peers" means.
-- Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
Re:It is time...
by
vt_milhouse
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I agree. The Taliban has had weeks to avoid a military confrontation, and our government has been more than willing to resolve this situation in a peaceful matter.
What I don't understand about the groups condemning any military response is that they fail to realize that the military is fighting for their freedom. I saw an interview on Fox news about some group that believed that WW II could have been won by non-violent protests and the like. I'm sure that the axis powers would allow anti-war marches in Berlin.
Our country is at war now, even if it is undeclared one. Americans should support their country during these times, even though they might not want to be at war. Having your own thoughts and the right to express them is one of many things that makes this country great, but there comes a time and place where you need to support your country (and military) first. So far these groups have not done anything wrong yet...I would hate to see things degrade to their status durring the Vietnam war days.
I can only speculate that the proof in this case has not been made public because it would endanger future intelligence gathering efforts. however
1) Every other country has been 100% convinced by the evidence we showed them
2) Evidence has already been presented tying him to other terrorist acts (USS Cole and Embassy bombings)
Yes, I would *hope* the US would hand over someone with a lot less evidence than we have on bin Laden
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But Gods the one who's losing, Satan always wins!
More needless loss of life.
by
geekguy
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We are barely better than the terrorists who hijacked the plane. As long as the US only strikes against Military targets I will support it if and only if this actualy helps catching Osama Bin laden.
If, however, this hurts any civilians we will be no better than those who attacked us.
And if this dosn't get us any closer to catching Bin Laden then this will just be more needless loss of life and property.
If people will ever accept peace they need to find a way of dealing with eachother other than through violence. I will pray for peace, just as I will pray for an end to the violence that is going on right now.
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Any comments seen here are not mine, but a mixture of alchohol and lack of sleep.
Surprised that Bush took Sunday to deliver justice
by
afflatus_com
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Considering part of the propaganda campaign of bin Laden terrorists is that this is a holy war by the 'Crusaders and Zionists', it is surprising that Bush would take then choose a Christian Sunday to go in and start to deliver justice.
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----- Cast a Cold Eye On Life, on Death Horseman, pass by --W.B. Yeats' gravestone
I read on USA Today that they have a total of about 40k troops. I don't know what they think they are going to accomplish w/that low number of forces but whatever.
I am really intrigued by their "prepare of jihad" statement. Honestly I don't think that they quite understand that this is in no way linked to any such "holy war". Maybe the language barrier is really a problem.
This is not a holy war people. This is a retaliation for stupidity. A simple request that had a simple solution. Hand the asshole over and we are done.
If you really want to remain in power just hand the fucker over.
I do NOT agree w/war and I do NOT think that retaliations are really necessary but I also do NOT believe that the Taliban is being too smart about this ordeal. We gave them like 26 days or something. They had the idiot under their control and all they had to do was comply.
DO NOT SAY IT IS HOLY WAR, it is a god damn single person that is a fucking jackass. Turn the stupid shit over and be done w/it.
I wish the forces in Asia the best of luck and worry for them.
Support our descision and do your best to verbally attack the stupidity of the Taliban.
I can't believe americans
by
krist0
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Ok, lets start with the fact that the backwards american foriegn policy got you attacked in the first place. If you treat countries like errant children, they will act like children back. This is a self created problem. I know that people will say "but we helped people in kuwait"...Bollocks...you saved your precious oil (which if you where smart you would source it from russia, help rebuild their economy as well)...which is again the problem...these people see through your purposed "reasons" to "save" them...lets just not talk about the relentless bombing in iraq or the fact that when saddam was having fun gassing the kurds, america didnt care....lets face it, its the almighty $ that drives america and it dont give a F$#k about anything else....cept now that they have been made to look like fools on the world stage...
now they will just look more foolish. fighting a war that will cost them many many lives against soldiers with years of training and combat experience (we shouldnt mention how the taliban was created by the US/Pakistan/Saudi Arabia, or how the US trained them, supplied them weaponry so that they could push the USSR out of afghanistan....nah, that would be bringing facts to the table...no one likes that in politics...or even funnier, russia will be helping, which means supporting the Northern Aliance, the very people they were fighting against as well....too funny)
oh well, i will love to see how this turns out...
:)
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-- all you are, is all you are, i'm so sorry for you.
What is going on?
by
bluemilker
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I am more scared than I have been any day since the bombing occured. I'm sitting here in my manhattan apartment, and I just heard on the radio that the pentagon has predicted a close to 100% chance of terrorist response, and no one _cares_. No one even seems to think this bombing is a big deal. My mother just contacted me, crying, because she doesn't think she wants to use the subway system today. And all I can think is... to what extent can I continue living my everyday life when the U.S. government is fully willing to treat me and my loved ones as a human shield?
Maybe I'm overreacting. If so, I'm sorry. I don't mean to incite flames.
Hey, here's a thought. Why not dispense with this whole "teach them a lesson" thing. Any time a country does something out of line, just invade them (as now) and crush the government (as now) but add the country to the USA? That way, they'll never piss off America again. Sweet! As a side benefit, we'd be bringing the light of Democracy and Capitalism to the poor, dark world. Everyone is better off when they have self-determination - if they're Americans. Other people should support their betters.
-- The Signal/Noise ratio can be improved in two ways. Remaining silent is the OTHER way.
Maybe you should keep up on the news. We showed our evidence to NATO members, Pakistan and others and all were convinced of his involvement...
--
I must burn in hell, suffer and pay for my sins
But Gods the one who's losing, Satan always wins!
Re:Doesnt look that big right now
by
zerocool^
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· Score: 1, Troll
Listen, fucking asshole:
The jewish people were there first. Look, if you're gonna go back 40 years, why not go back a little further. The jewish people have been shit on by everyone on the fucking planet for years, and no one sticks up for them. Starting with egyptian exile, moving thru assyrian and babylonian invasion, then on to greek and roman occupation, byzantine occupation, turkish/ ottaman occupation, midevil mistrust because of banking practices, renassiance mistrust because of just plain not being christian, and persecution from 25 years of german/nazi ideology.
The jewish people aren't the cause of this, don't bring them in to this. The jewish people may have killed thousands of people, but in the past 35 centuries, probably close to a billion jews have been killed. 6 MILLION ALONE in the 1930's and 40's.
Its not an atack on Islam. And there's nothing wrong about supporting the jews. If you think we're wrong, go live somewhere else. Fuck off.
5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
At which point the enlightened college student contacts the local authorities who use non-lethal weapons to restrain you, then put you into a detention cell where you will be introduced to your feminine side by an HIV and Hepatitis C infected ethnic gang -- thereby enlightening you as the virtues of "diversity" where even your very body contributes to the veritable cornucopia of ecological foment that is "the world".
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Well, its been several weeks now, and our government has looked for the most peaceful solution possible. The fact that that taliban was unwilling to cooperate even in the slightest makes the bombing both justified, and appropriate.
I really dread the rhetoric of those who think that we should just do nothing.
If a single innocent Afganistan citizen is killed by our military actions, then we are no better than terrorists ourselves.
Doug
Venn ist das nurnstuck git und Slotermeyer? Ya! Beigerhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
As a /.'er in the Navy, I say "About damn time."
We needed to do something other then look like we are sitting here twiddling our thumbs.
No, I hope God punishes those we target. We're not targeting civilians, but terrorists. That's all. Just the bad guys. The really evil ones.
If you celebrate Xmas, befriend me (538
We are barely better than the terrorists who hijacked the plane. As long as the US only strikes against Military targets I will support it if and only if this actualy helps catching Osama Bin laden.
If, however, this hurts any civilians we will be no better than those who attacked us.
And if this dosn't get us any closer to catching Bin Laden then this will just be more needless loss of life and property.
If people will ever accept peace they need to find a way of dealing with eachother other than through violence. I will pray for peace, just as I will pray for an end to the violence that is going on right now.
-- Any comments seen here are not mine, but a mixture of alchohol and lack of sleep.
Considering part of the propaganda campaign of bin Laden terrorists is that this is a holy war by the 'Crusaders and Zionists', it is surprising that Bush would take then choose a Christian Sunday to go in and start to deliver justice.
-----
Cast a Cold Eye
On Life, on Death
Horseman, pass by
--W.B. Yeats' gravestone
I read on USA Today that they have a total of about 40k troops. I don't know what they think they are going to accomplish w/that low number of forces but whatever.
I am really intrigued by their "prepare of jihad" statement. Honestly I don't think that they quite understand that this is in no way linked to any such "holy war". Maybe the language barrier is really a problem.
This is not a holy war people. This is a retaliation for stupidity. A simple request that had a simple solution. Hand the asshole over and we are done.
If you really want to remain in power just hand the fucker over.
I do NOT agree w/war and I do NOT think that retaliations are really necessary but I also do NOT believe that the Taliban is being too smart about this ordeal. We gave them like 26 days or something. They had the idiot under their control and all they had to do was comply.
DO NOT SAY IT IS HOLY WAR, it is a god damn single person that is a fucking jackass. Turn the stupid shit over and be done w/it.
I wish the forces in Asia the best of luck and worry for them.
Support our descision and do your best to verbally attack the stupidity of the Taliban.
Ok, lets start with the fact that the backwards american foriegn policy got you attacked in the first place. If you treat countries like errant children, they will act like children back. This is a self created problem. I know that people will say "but we helped people in kuwait"...Bollocks...you saved your precious oil (which if you where smart you would source it from russia, help rebuild their economy as well)...which is again the problem...these people see through your purposed "reasons" to "save" them...lets just not talk about the relentless bombing in iraq or the fact that when saddam was having fun gassing the kurds, america didnt care....lets face it, its the almighty $ that drives america and it dont give a F$#k about anything else....cept now that they have been made to look like fools on the world stage...
now they will just look more foolish. fighting a war that will cost them many many lives against soldiers with years of training and combat experience (we shouldnt mention how the taliban was created by the US/Pakistan/Saudi Arabia, or how the US trained them, supplied them weaponry so that they could push the USSR out of afghanistan....nah, that would be bringing facts to the table...no one likes that in politics...or even funnier, russia will be helping, which means supporting the Northern Aliance, the very people they were fighting against as well....too funny)
oh well, i will love to see how this turns out...
:)
--------
Can i move to mars now?
all you are, is all you are, i'm so sorry for you.
I am more scared than I have been any day since the bombing occured. I'm sitting here in my manhattan apartment, and I just heard on the radio that the pentagon has predicted a close to 100% chance of terrorist response, and no one _cares_. No one even seems to think this bombing is a big deal. My mother just contacted me, crying, because she doesn't think she wants to use the subway system today. And all I can think is... to what extent can I continue living my everyday life when the U.S. government is fully willing to treat me and my loved ones as a human shield?
Maybe I'm overreacting. If so, I'm sorry. I don't mean to incite flames.
A better *friend* than Tony?
Hell, no. You couldn't have a better *bum-buddy* than Tony. He's eager to bend over and take it from the USA.
Don't mistake Tony's words as support and friendship. He's using you to get his own rocks off, in his own peculiar way.
--
Don't like it? Respond with words, not karma.
Hey, here's a thought. Why not dispense with this whole "teach them a lesson" thing. Any time a country does something out of line, just invade them (as now) and crush the government (as now) but add the country to the USA? That way, they'll never piss off America again. Sweet! As a side benefit, we'd be bringing the light of Democracy and Capitalism to the poor, dark world. Everyone is better off when they have self-determination - if they're Americans. Other people should support their betters.
The Signal/Noise ratio can be improved in two ways. Remaining silent is the OTHER way.
Maybe you should keep up on the news. We showed our evidence to NATO members, Pakistan and others and all were convinced of his involvement...
I must burn in hell, suffer and pay for my sins
But Gods the one who's losing, Satan always wins!
Listen, fucking asshole:
The jewish people were there first. Look, if you're gonna go back 40 years, why not go back a little further. The jewish people have been shit on by everyone on the fucking planet for years, and no one sticks up for them. Starting with egyptian exile, moving thru assyrian and babylonian invasion, then on to greek and roman occupation, byzantine occupation, turkish/ ottaman occupation, midevil mistrust because of banking practices, renassiance mistrust because of just plain not being christian, and persecution from 25 years of german/nazi ideology.
The jewish people aren't the cause of this, don't bring them in to this. The jewish people may have killed thousands of people, but in the past 35 centuries, probably close to a billion jews have been killed. 6 MILLION ALONE in the 1930's and 40's.
Its not an atack on Islam. And there's nothing wrong about supporting the jews. If you think we're wrong, go live somewhere else.
Fuck off.
~z
What the hell, its only karma, eh?
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At which point the enlightened college student contacts the local authorities who use non-lethal weapons to restrain you, then put you into a detention cell where you will be introduced to your feminine side by an HIV and Hepatitis C infected ethnic gang -- thereby enlightening you as the virtues of "diversity" where even your very body contributes to the veritable cornucopia of ecological foment that is "the world".
Everybody sing:
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