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VIA to Create Pentium 4 'Clone'
PyroMosh writes: "ZDNet is carrying a brief article about VIA's plans to start producing clones of the Pentium 4. VIA's already in legal trouble with Intel and it seems unlikley that this will go unchallenged by the chipmaking juggernaut. The Register is also covering this, and SiliconStrategies.com has an article with a bit more detail."
The AC Avenger Strikes again!!!!
Cyborg_Mo cannot hope to compete.
Seems that in this case, a lawsuit makes sense. If I made something, had a competitor copy it (and not have my okay), you bet I'd sue.
-- The Hollow Man
Non illegitimati carborundum
as well as the 686 southbridge produces write errors.
Hopefully Intel can stop them before they do something this monstrously dumb. There's a lot of other avenues for chip improvement that can implement the P4 instruction set but don't require the clunky architecture.
it sure is. it's pointless, and it's long enough to get past the even-more-pointless lameness filter.
Ever since he had seen his ex-wife that terrible last time, his performance
in bed had been less than spectacular. In fact, he often couldn't get hard
enough to embed his most important organ in even the most receptive of
cunts. His doctor had told him that his problem was psychological, and that
if he could ever completely put his ex-wife out of his mind, the problem
would most likely disappear.
He did have reason to hope that this would be one of his better nights. The
new girl that he had picked up at the clubhouse was very young and very
beautiful. He had taken her to a party, where they had fun dancing and
flirting with each other. Best of all, she seemed to be really horny
tonight, and she was doing her best to turn him on.
After the party, they had gone to her apartment for drinks. They were
sitting close together in the middle of her large couch. She suddenly put
her drink down and stood up, stretching her arms up high over her head and
thrusting her chest out. ! She was wearing a very short, body-hugging red
sheath dress. As she stood there with her arms stretched over her head, the
hem of her dress was pulled high up her thighs, so high that her panties
were nearly exposed to view. Her breasts were pushing out so hard that her
erect nipples were clearly visible, even through the lacy black bra that
she was wearing. Her long, shapely legs were covered, but not concealed, by
sheer black stokings.
"Ahhhh!" she sighed. "That's nice. I really had fun at the party. But it's
good to be home, where we can really relax and enjoy each other's company."
She held her pose for several seconds, then reached down and picked up a
remote. "I think I'll put on some soft dance music. Okay ?"
His face revealed his displeasure at her suggestion. With sudden unexpected
anger in his voice, he replied "What's the point? We already did that! I'm
not about to dance any more!"
"Oh! I'm sorry," she said. "I wasn't suggesting that you should dance any
more with me. You just sit there and relax. And make yourself comfortable.
I know you like your imported shoes, I like them too, but wouldn't you be
more comfortable if you slipped them off? (She had removed her own shoes as
soon as they had entered her apartment.) And you could slip off your coat
and tie. In fact . . . (the hint of a mischievous smile appeared at the
corners of her beautiful lips) there's no need to keep wearing ANYthing . .
! . really." She blushed briefly at the sheer naughtiness of her
suggestion. She was not usually as forward as this, but tonight she was
feeling especially sexually adventurous.
Her explanation seemed to calm him down, so she pushed a couple of buttons
on the remote and her CD player started softly playing some slow, sensual
dance music. She walked to the front of the CD player and leaned against
it. Then she closed her eyes, put her head back, and pulled a pin from her
hair. Her golden tresses tumbled past her shoulders to the middle of her
back. After a moment she sat down, facing him, on a large chair that was
beside the CD player. She pulled her knees up and rocked back in the chair,
thrusting her crotch out, and placed her heels on the front edge of the
chair cushion. He gasped as her movements pulled her dress up and exposed
her crotch to him. She was wearing black silk bikini panties and a matching
garter belt that was holding up her stockings. She smiled at him as he
openly stared up her dress. He licked his lips and imagined the sweetness
that was now concealed by so very little. She unfastened the clips holding
the tops of her stockings and ! slowly, slo-o-w-w-w-l-y, rolled the
stockings down her legs. She caressed her naked flesh with her hands as her
thighs and calves were uncovered. When both her legs were bare, she dropped
the stockings on the floor and stood up.
She was feeling the low, throbbing music deeply now, and she started to
sway gracefully back and forth to the beat. She danced slowly toward him
until she was dancing back and forth right in front of the couch. She
danced sensually for several minutes, her movements becoming more and more
exaggerated. Her dress clung tantalizingly to her body, showing off her
perfect curves, and she moved her hands up and down, caressing herself
through her red dress. She moved her hands to her breasts and squeezed
them, then moaned from the pleasure that it gave her.
Her dance was having the intended effect on them both. Whenever she brushed
a hand over one of her erect nipples, it felt like little electric sparks
shot through the whole breast. Her cunt was making so much juice the crotch
of her panties was barely able to hold it all. And her dance had his cock
as hard as it had ever recently been. He was almost panting as he watched
her dance and caress herself. He especially watched the hem of her dress as
her movements pulled it higher and higher up her legs. He wanted to catch
the exact moment that her panties would be revealed to his stare again.
Suddenly, she stopped dancing. She leaned slightly forward, toward him,
pulled her dress up in the back, and reached under it. She quickly slid her
panties down her legs and pulled them off.
"Oh, my goddd!" he groaned when her panties hit the floor and he detected
the faint, sweet odor of her excitement. He started to unbutton his shirt,
but she put her hand over his and shook her head *no*! , so he stopped.
They were both nearly panting as she resumed her dancing and he resumed his
staring. The music was getting faster now, and so was her dancing.
Gradually, keeping with the music, her movements became frantic. Her long,
blonde hair was flying and her dress was pulled high. He could see the
gentle curves where her legs met her ass cheeks, and the blonde curls that
framed her cunt. "OH, MYYY GODDDD!" he groaned again, louder.
The music suddenly reached an intense climax and then stopped completely.
She dropped to one knee when the music stopped, and bowed her head
slightly. She was panting for breath now, trying to recover from her
exertion. After a few moments of rest, she stood up and looked at him with
lust-filled eyes. She slipped the thin straps of her dress off her
shoulders. It was too tight to fall on its own, but with a couple of gentle
tugs on each side, it slipped down her body and fell to the floor. He
gasped and swallowed hard as her incredible body was fully revealed to him.
She was now wearing only a thin, lacy black bra and her black silk garter
belt. Her full breasts and beckoning nipples seemed to be begging for his
hands and mouth to engulf them. Farther down, her slender waist and firm
belly gave way to beautifully rounded hips, and to a high, firm ass. For a
moment, he truly realized how very lucky he was, that she had chosen to
take him to her apartment for sex.
She took his! hands in hers and indicated that he should stand. She slowly
unbuttoned his shirt and pulled it wide open. Since in his youth he had
been a professional athlete, she was a little surprised to see that, like
so many men his age, he had "love handles" and a middle age paunch. But it
didn't bother her. In fact, she might have been a little relieved that he
wasn't the "male god" that he had sometimes been made out to be. She
pressed her hot, wet tongue against his chest. She licked slowly down to
his navel, and then back up to the base of his neck. He moaned when she
sucked one of his dark nipples into her mouth. Then she peeled the shirt
from his shoulders and dropped it to the floor. Meeting his lust-filled
gaze with her own, she unfastened his belt and let his pants drop. He
trembled and moaned softly when she pressed her hand over his dick and
balls.
She slipped her fingers into the waistband of his briefs and slowly pulled
them off. For a few moments, with him wearing only his socks and with her
wearing only her bra and garter belt, they simply looked at each other. An
observer would have been struck by the contrasts between them. She, with
her pale skin and youthful beauty, her cunt pouring out sweet honey in
anticipation of passionate, exuberant sex. He, with his dark skin and
middle age sags, his cock seemingly little more than half hard, just hoping
that he would be able to take advantage of this young woman's willingness
to let him fuck her.
"Let's go to bed," he whispered hopefully.
"No, honey," she replied as she removed her bra and garter. "Let's just use
the couch instead."
He shuddered as a haunting memory of his ex-wife suddenly filled his mind.
She smiled, thinking that his shudder was just a sign of his passion. She
lay down onto the couch on her back, then she took his hands and pulled him
over her. She put her hand on the back of his neck and pulled his face
down to her left tit.
He started to lick her left nipple. She was a little surprised, and more
than a little disappointed, by the way he was doing it. All of the men that
she had fucked before had devoured both of her succulent titties with
considerable enthusiasm. They had licked, and slurped, and sucked, until it
had them both writhing against each other in pleasure. But he wasn't doing
it that way. He didn't seem to be enthusiastic about it at all. He licked
and sucked a little, but his actions seemed to be purely mechanical, almost
cold. It was in sharp contrast to his seeming excitement while he watched
her dance. She started to rapidly lose her own sexual heat, and to think
that maybe it had just been a mistake to bring him to her apartment. She
decided that maybe it would just be best to let him finish as soon as
possible and write it off as one of those disappointing nights.
She reached down between their bodies and grasped his sort-of-stiff dick.
"Too bad," she thought sadly. "Even his cock doesn't match the myth. He's
even smaller than most of the white cocks I've seen." She guided the head
of his cock to her rapidly drying pussy. He pressed his hips forward and
his dick slid almost unnoticed into her. She barely felt it. His eyes were
closed and there were beads of sweat on his forehead. He didn't seem to
notice at all that she had lost her enthusiasm for this. He began to pump
his hips back and forth, and for a few moments his cock slid in and out, in
and out. Soon, he clenched his teeth and cam. Well, sort of cam. He didn't
really shoot anything. It just sort of leaked out.
After he was finished, he lowered the full weight of his body onto her.
Still keeping his eyes tightly closed, he whispered "Oh, Nicole . . .
Nicole. I knew that finally you'd fuck me again."
She kissed his cheek and hugged him gently, then whispered back "Sorry,
honey! I'm not Nicole. But I hope I'll do."
He jerked upright, sitting across her waist. He was suddenly filled with
anger. "Smart assed slut!" he screamed. "Damn right you're not Nicole!"
Then he slapped her hard. He started to beat her savagely, alternately
slapping and punching. She was totally unprepared for his sudden, merciless
attack. At first, she couldn't even try to defend herself. But after the
first few blows had already landed, she raised her arms and tried to shield
her face from his blows. It did no good. He simply punched through her
defenses, or punched lower, landing a very hard blow to her throat. He even
punched hard onto her left breast. Her whole face was red and swelling
rapidly. Her left eye was blood red, and the skin around it was turning a
deep purple. Then he slapped her left cheek again, and his ring cut a deep
gash into her flesh. Her blood spurted out across her chest and onto the
couch.
He stopped beating her for a moment when he saw her blood. But he was still
sitting on top of her and glaring down angrily at her. She was stunned by
his sudden, violent attack. Too stunned to even cry. In a dry, emotionless
whisper, she said "Oh, my god . . . you really did it . . . Her poor
children." That set him off again. He slapped her and punched her
repeatedly. "Why . . . why?" she groaned between his blows.
He didn't offer an answer. Maybe he didn't really know why himself. His
first slap was almost just a savage reflex to his anger when she innocently
admitted that she was not his ex-wife. But he was beating her now just
because he liked doing it. He enjoyed the feel of his fist smashing hard
against the soft skin on a woman's face. He enjoyed hearing the *smack* and
the *crunch* as his blows landed. Most of all, he enjoyed hearing the
painful groans of the women he beat. And, whenever he beat any woman, he
always hoped that there would be blood.
Her upper lip wa! s suddenly split wide open and her blood spurted out
again. The sight of more of her blood made him stop beating her again. She
was quietly sobbing now and pleading with him not to kill her too.
He finally spoke. "Listen, bitch," he said in a low, menacing voice. "You
chose to bring me here and fuck me. I didn't make you do that, you did it
on your own. But now that you've done it, I fucking OWN you." He actually
snarled to emphasize his point. He continued in an emotionless, but
absolutely commanding tone of voice. "You will always make yourself
available to me. You will keep yourself fit and attractive for me. You will
wear clothes, and use makeup, only as I tell you to." She couldn't believe
what he was saying. But she didn't dare to object to anything he said. "You
will fuck me whenever, and wherever, I say. The only other men that you
will fuck are the ones that I tell you to fuck." He paused for a moment,
and then said "I'll explain the rest of it to you later. You know, of
course, that you won't be able to get any help from the L.A.P.D. They
learned enough from the first time to just leave me alone now."
He stood and looked down at her. "I'm going to clean up and go out for a
while. After I've gone, you clean yourself up and get yourself ready for my
return. And get rid of this fucking couch before I come back." He started
to walk away, but then turned back for a moment. Blood still flowed from
both her cheek and her lip, and both her eyes were swollen nearly shut.
"Think you're bleeding now, bitch?" he asked cruelly. "I could tell you
about some real bleeding . . . " Then he turned away and went into her
bathroom.
As she heard him washing and dressing himself, she sobbed bitterly. She
thought "What have I done to deserve this? How the fuck did I get myself
into this mess, anyway? What about some justice for me . . . and for poor
Nicole?" Even though clotting had started to slow the flow of blood, it
still oozed from the wounds on her cheek and lip. Her swollen face hurt
like hell, and she could barely see. How the shit was she supposed to get
ready for more of this? Then she heard the door close as he left. And she
was glad.
Didn't AMD do something similiar in reverse engineering Intel's chips? Anyone know what legal action came of that?
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"already in legal trouble with intel"
This is like calling a kickboxer a bad name and when he says "WHAT did you say" repeat it...
Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
We all know that the Cyrix... well, sucks. It sounds like a bad move for VIA anyway. Why not mimic one of the AMD chips? If they are going to get into legal trouble, why not mimic something higher end.
3Dnow.net links to the article at: http://www.theinquirer.net/19100103.htm that states that VIA denies this. Gotta love the opening paragraph.
If my company have been spending millions of bucks and as many working hours to develop and manufacture such a thing as the P4, and someone just took it and copied it without my consent, ofcourse I would sue. Don't tell me there is anyone in here that wouldn't!
Will work for bandwidth
"Why does the world need a 2-GHz system?" quizzed Glenn Henry, president of Via's Centaur Technology Inc. subsidiary in Austin, Tex.
Quoted from the story, apparently VIA doesn't realize that games are the only real application pushing chips into new speeds. People wants games faster and people want games that are more realistic, by upping the CPU and GPU speeds, we can get to some very stunning graphics.
Might have to be careful, may result in actually creating the Matrix...Or would we be creating a Matrix inside a Matrix?
1.- This will be a HUGE task
2.- Pentium4 sucks, why not clone Athlon instead?
Sincerely, Mike Bouma
To reverse engineer and duplicate a processor requires a superior understanding of processor design and construction.
Once you have reverse engineered the processor, why wouldn't you then put your resources into designing a better processor based on what you've learned, rather than wasting time making a clone?
it doesnt say where to get one.....
I SURVIVED THE GREAT SLASHDOT BLACKOUT OF 2002!
Imagine a beowulf cluster of lawsuits!
"Obviously, Intel wants to shove a 2-GHz system down our throats," said the outspoken Centaur executive during his presentation at the Microprocessor Forum. He said Intel believes "they will build [2-GHz processors] and the market will come."
Shove away baby, and keep those faster processors coming.
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just running around looking for a biscuit that's not there
I do not respond to cowards. Especially anonymous ones.
From your linked article:
SOURCES CLOSE TO VIA said that an employee who seemed to hint that the firm had a Pentium 4 clone it might launch in 2004
2004? By then Intel might be up to the Pentium 5 or 6! Why bother?
Why didn't they clone the athlon? It's faster and AMD is much less likely to sue the crud out of them than Intel.
So when do the $100 Geforce3 Ti500 clones come out now?
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How will VIA have a competitive advantage?
They will use substandard manufactoring processes, open chip plants in third world dictatorships, and provide less customer outreach and support.
Good!
Poor countries will get chipmaking infrastructure, and chip manufacturers will produce more cheaply. This part of the information economy is the part that can reach the poorest countries first; a factory job making chips is the first step towards participation in a western style net economy.
VIA won't advertise with idiotic pitches like the Blue Men. Perhaps it will take another tack -- selling to budget computer makers.
The chip cost is a big part of computer cost, so a cheaper chip will enable more companies to produce cheap computers, improving competition in this market sector.
This is like spurring a housing market with a revolution in pre-fabricated housing. It makes possibilities available to an entirely new group of potential buyers.
Goat sex free since 2001
K5 announced they were going to clone the Invalid form key.
Coming soon, Open Source hard drives. Does anyone have any spare beer coasters?
Regardless, the Hammer will be the processor of choice once it debuts.
299,792,458 m/s...not just a good idea, its the law!
Galileo: "The Earth revolves around the Sun!"
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2GHZ lets see based on the cyrix methodaligies that would be something like 20 x 100mhz bus in real world standards that would be 13 x 33mhz bus. I wonder if this chip will retain the heat features. Imagine a chip running at 500 C. And they will be cheap just like thier ancestors. 25$ a chip so when it burns its self up in 3 months you go buy another. GOD I WANT ONE!
"All I can tell the "lesser of two evils" folks is that if they keep voting for evil, they'll keep getting evil."-Lp.org
Since intel is already hating on them for making a P4 chipset, and no mobo makers wanted to use it, VIA decided to make thier own motherboards, now this is just the next step why stop at making motherboards they are going to make the processors to go in them too.
Why would it cause legal trouble, isn't this basically what AMD did?
Just because I AM paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get me.
It seems as if Via recognizes they will most likely be sued and be forced to forfeit some of their earnings if they clone Intel products. In the face of this, they also seem to feel that they can benefit enough to offset the losses caused by a lawsuit.
A similar incident occurred with John Deere and Caterpillar about 5 years ago. Caterpillar had figured out that using a rubber-tracked farm tractor gives farmers better yields. John Deere literally stole the concept and accepted the lawsuit because what they learned was so valuable it was worth it!
Of course we torture people, we need the information --Gen. Pinochet
If P4 has been legitimately reverse-engineered, then VIA is beyond reproach. Typically, the companies who live by reverse-engineering go to great length to document the process. Of course, they'd have to pay hefty legal fees if that process is challenged in court, but for the giant like VIA this isn't much of a problem.
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AMD's (PR) rating of CPU's may very well be the end of AMD. Without a CPU to fill their motherboards VIA is going to need something of their own to fill the low price / high performance market segment we have all come to love.
Enter the P4 clone.
This has already been debunked as a rumor!
:)
Way to go slashdot....
http://www.theinquirer.net/19100103.htm - There's your linkified proof.
be outdated by the time they release it?
Assuming that VIA is in fact trying to make a P4 clone, is it possibable that they are trying to force a takeover. If VIA is having internal problems might they be trying to get Intel to sue for stock?
Otherwise this information is either a leak of gargantuan proportions or a hoax. I would personaly put my cash in the hoax theory.
Information wants to be free like speech wants to be free, not like we want beer to be free.
When IBM first brought out their PCs they were
"cloned". IBM brought on the lawsuits which
ultimately failed. The important word here is
"cloned" which has a different meaning then
"copied". Cloning attempts reproduce the
functionality of the cloned item by coming up
with their own design. "Copying" makes an exact
duplicate of the original, which of course would
be illegal. (eg. like selling copied software CDs)
If anyone can (legally) make a x86 compatible processor nowadays, whats wrong with making one that will simply fit into a P4 socket? VIA can simply claim its a P4-clone and package a die of their own design. And I think that is what they're doing since it was mentioned in the article on The Register that there are 18 pipe stages in VIA's design.. and if I recall correctly, the P4 has greater than 20 pipeline stages.
I don't ever recall AMD getting sued for making those Super 7 K6-2s and K6-3s CPUs.
Considering how much trouble I've had
with VIA motherboard chipsets and random
crashes I wouldn't touch a VIA cpu with
a ten foot pole.
Rats would be more funny if they could fart.
Are they going to clone the heat too?
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Who wants a CPU that looks like a sheep
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Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!
It seems from the article that all they are doing is making a chip that will be compatible with systems that are also compatible with the P4. All they mean by "P4 Clone" is that you can use it interchangeably with a P4. The only other similarity mentioned in the articles is the 18 stage pipeline, but there are so many ways of implementing such a pipeline that I doubt VIA's will be exactly the same. All in all, I say this is good competition, although it probably won't amount to much.
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Look folks, it's a troll. Chip fatories in 3rd world countries the first step towards participation in a western style net economy? Adequacy.org link in the .sig? Don't feed the trolls.
VIA can produce all the cpu it likes, I won't be buying any of them. If they still can't produce a stable motherboard chipset after years of research and practice, then how could they manage a completely functional x86 processor core ? I don't think they can do it well enough to chew into Intel.
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The market for these would be people who are not already emotionally/contractually tied to Intel. This space is primarily held by AMD. Via is less likely to get any customers out of Intel. They are more likely to take customers from AMD.
Sure Intel will gripe, but if they're smart they'll let VIA in just enough to pound AMD.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
legacy code can lick my cajones, that piece of garbage should have been dropped a long time ago.
sigs are for suckers
Is already known to be highly saturated. Will VIA's chips be signifigantly cheaper than the Celrons or Durons (or at least have a better cost-to-performance ratio?) If so, will that margin be enough to keep the company afloat?
This sounds like something that would have been a great idea a year or two ago, but in this competitive (and now saturated) market, it will be tough going for the guys at VIA.
If VIA had cloned AMD it would still be pitiful. You can now have a mobo that causes problems with a constantly overheating proc that causes even more!
Besides that, I think that the core legal issue that VIA would face over this would be the Intel extentions such as SSE2, MMX, etc, and not over the core x86 instruction set (which they apparently have a license for)
SmashTech - No smashing of tech involved
Alternatives for the platform could be very good. Think of the Socket 7 architecture in retrospect. They ended up going much faster than the marketing people at Intel would have liked! People still use K6-2s and K6-IIIs, but who would use a p200 in this age?
this is another blow against no competition (note the double negative). intel no longer has the only chip for the p4 platform. This is good for consumers and it is good for the industry. Way to go Via!
It's been a long time.
I agree IA32 is a horrible mess. PPC is very nice. Alpha was even better but we all know what happened to it. And ignoring all the emphasis placed on backward compatibility, IA64 is not bad.
I think people should be looking ahead and developing clones for Itanium processors. Right now pre-made Itanium systems start around $14,000. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see cloning a raw Itanium processor (without the complete backward compatibility) being a lot harder than cloning the Pentium 4.
I hate programming for IA32. And because of Intel's monopoly, IA64 is the only logical next step. I wish people would just make IA64 affordable. Or at least add Itanium support in BOCHS.
Doesn't run in XFree86/Linux very well.
got a portable format you would like to share?
where the buff...err..shee...errrr...pent...
damn, I give up.
Copyright means we get to *copy it, right*?
I had to say it, sorry.
But this begs the questions: Why? People lambasted the design of the P4 for bringing us what is in essence a 2Ghz+ 486, right?
Why on god's green earth would someone want to immitate rather than innovaaaa...
Ooops, never mind.
Moose
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
Is this chip going to have the P4's weird mix of RISC and not architecture? If it is purely RISC like the PPC then they might be onto something... Of course alternative ideas have been around for a while... http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q1/000317/
wouldn't it be illegal for Intel to reverse engineer the Jericho 4 and find out if it used reverse engineered components from the pentium 4?
"-I don't have a god complex, god has a ME complex"
If the Omniscient One is so deluded that He wants to use MS Windows Millenium Edition, than we're all lost. Imagine your world suddenly stopping, the sky goes blue, and then God hits the Reset button. Wait, the sky is blue right now, AHHH!!!!
It runs fine on Slackware... you need the flash plugin to run it.
By the time they come up with the P4 perfected, they'll be obsolete... probably big time obsolete.
Would be good for maybe a Nintendo Gameboy or something, though. Hehe..
what's the matter, moderators? can't stand different opinions? still high on crack?
"SOURCES CLOSE TO VIA said that an employee who seemed to hint that the firm had a Pentium 4 clone it might launch in 2004 hasn't been taken out and shot but is being advised to shop around for a bullet with his name on it."
Hmm...2004...i don't think anyone wants a p4 type chip in 2004...Does anyone? This thing accoording to the current rate of changing avery 1-1.5 years by 2004 this thing will be like...a waste of time. Why doesn't via just concentrate on making good mobo chip thingys?
The fact that you only use your computer to play games is not a good reason to the _top 2GHz_ that you are talking about because there are many many applications that just fuck or do not exist due to the lack of MHz :-)
And IMHO, the actual games just fuck.