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Quarter-sized CD's?
Anonymous Coward writes: "The Denver Post is running an interesting story about Dataplay, Inc. This Boulder, Colorado based company aims to supplant the 20-year-old CD with a quarter-sized (1.5" x 1.25") optical disc that can hold 500 Mb of data. Players and media (already supported by 4 major record labels) are scheduled to launched 'the latter part of first quarter 2002'." They're cute, but considering that Sony's minidiscs never took off and this format is heavily restricted, my guess is that this will fail.
Steve Volk founded DataPlay in November 1998 out of his frustration with the multiple storage formats used in consumer electronics.
So his solution? Invent another storage format!
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For some reason, MD didn't take off in a big way in the US, but in Japan and Europe, they are a huge success. In the UK you can buy pre-recorded minidiscs in the music stores, like CD's or vinyl.
Almost every 2nd person on the public transport in London is listening to a MD player. They have totally replaced tapes and the walkman over here.
Just because the US seems to have ignored them for the last 5 years does not make them a failure...
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I disagree. Minidiscs took off. It took a long time, but nowadays, many people own a minidisc. Pre-recorded MD never took off. Ok. Probably because they were as expensive as CDs, and because record dealers didn't want to have every record on a new support. But blank MDs are nice. Excellent quality, all features of a CD (direct access to tracks), plus song and disk titles. Plus they are small. The only bad thing about MD is that recorders are still a bit expensive. But I only use MDs to record music I want to hear while traveling. I don't want of CDs and MP3/OGG gadgets that need a computer to be recorded.
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Damn. If they remove the restrictions,...
Never happen. Beware of this quote from the article suggesting where they got their funding: "The company has raised $119 million in funding from a number of powerhouses, such as music giant Universal Music Group..."
They have whored themselves and now have satan's baby.
Beta lost to VHS for a number of reasons, over-simplifying it to licensing is so innacurate as to be incorrect.
Licensing and single-sourcing was just one more problem.
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Sony's minidiscs never took off
Wrong. Sony's minidiscs never took off for the intended audience.
Minidiscs are the defacto standard medium for amateur bootleggers (for concerts, etc), since they're cheap, small, and have good quality. The best are DAT recorders, but they're expensive and big.
Just some FYI.
I still have 100+ LPs and a few 45s, and a rather nice turntable, because some stuff didn't move well to CD, some stuff didn't come out on CD and some stuff lost tracks when it was re-thought and moved to CD (i.e. ELO Out of the Blue)
I'm probably getting a DVD player in the next month, but deciding factor isn't so much that it's better or more convenient, it's actually that my NEC VCR is dying (after 16 years. Hey, it was and still is a great model, I hope I can get it fixed.), but I'll still need a VCR to play the prerecorded tapes I have (many, too many...)
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Any new format, to succeed needs to add value to the user to overcome the cost of changing over. With CDs, there was a marked increase of quality over vinyl. Some might argue it was a decrease, but Joe Sixpack is still glad his CDs dont pop and scratch. Further, the CD allowed instant track access at the push of a button. It was these two features which pushed the changeover to CDs, along with the gradually decreasing price of players and concurrent larger selection of CDs in stores.
That said, where are the additional values of this medium over CDs? It's small. neat. But if I have to give up my CD burner, small dont mean much.
The next medium is most likely to be some flavor of mp3 or ogg device, be it solid state or magnetic disc based. Give me the ability to carry all the music I've bought over the last 15 years in my pocket, and the ability to navigate easily among all the songs, and I'll be all over it.
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I was just reading the "Big Breakthrough" infographic, and this thing sure looks impressive. At long last, thanks to modern technology, I can finally have inexpensive, universal, portable optical media that stores 500 MB of any kind of data I want and can be written 10 times faster than a 1X CD burner!
I've had minidisc players for over a year and I see people carrying them everywhere. Over here they seem to be going from strength to strength.
There's still not much selection available prerecorded, but I don't think most people want to use them to replace CDs, just for replacing tapes and replacing CDs for on-the-move purposes.
hmm ... next time my boss asks for something on a cd cuz he's too stupid to burn one himself; I *really can* shove it up his ass.
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As I can see you missed my point. First of all, I'm not for, and I'm not against RIAA, I just think that they are acting in a way I don't agree is good for them.
Other point you missed, I have never said that the new technology should be smaller and higher quality, could be one of them, or maybe another technology that would allow smaller discs and higher quality, whatever combination you want.
About the frequency range. Vinyl is still prefered for many enthusiasts due to its unlimited frequency range. In high quality recordings and with high quality equipament the range of infrasounds are very easy to feel and enjoy.
And about few people needing more quality, don't forget what our friend Bill Gates said about more then 640KB. Who said that we need HDTV, but after watching HDTV for a while you feel that convencional TV has a lower quality.
Please, try to keep the last paragraph in mind
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I hope this is true, but only time will tell. If they allow these disks to be available for recording on a computer, unrestricted (as CD-R is currently), the record companies would surely complain.