If you actually read the article itâ(TM)s clear that they have no actual information to base it on. It basically boils down to âif apple have done zero research and preparation about how to certify this and so are starting from scratch right now, today, it could take a long timeâ(TM), which may be true but itâ(TM)s a rather implausible scenario.
What the fuck is this?
Seriously? What. The. Fuck.
Taco must be turning in his grave/money pit at what the various owners of Slashdot have done to it since he sold it on.
There is more chance of selecting employees through gladiatorial combat trials than there is of using genetic profiling for this purpose anywhere in the EU.
Apple won't fix a widespread problem even if it is just a firmware update for them, so don't count on a solution
Well, just as a counterpoint to this, I had a problem with my 3+ year old Macbook pro retina where the screen just died one day. It was well out of warranty (I never bought any extended cover). I bit of googling found this (https://www.apple.com/uk/support/macbookpro-videoissues/) which says that Apple was aware there was a problem with some of the display controllers in the model I have. I took it in to my local Apple store, and 24 hours later they had replaced the display controller and I had the laptop back working perfectly. That's a repair that would have cost £3-500 (I can't remember what it was, but it was in that range).
I've also previously had an iphone which just stopped doing wifi one day and they replaced that on the spot in the apple store. One icloud restore later and the phone was good as new. I think that one might have been less than a year old though, so perhaps less impressive in terms of customer service.
You read the bit where he stabbed a guy 4 times with a samurai sword, right? I know in Texas that sort of thing is fine, but in the UK that's not considered self defence.
Also, that article is from 11 years ago, can you not find a more relevant example? We've had 2 (semi) different governments since then.
Next time there's a Slashdot story where the consensus among the wise, assembled community (who always have mysterious insight above and beyond the people behind the technology in question) is It'll-Never-Work, just remember this article.
We're talking about a technology that is 20 years old, deployed globally and (based on the complete absence of negative comments from current users) a universally accepted improvement upon the system it replaced.
And the running theme from the (let's face it : primarily American) contingent in the comments is It-Can-Never-Work, It's-Hopelessly-Flawed and What-Idiot-Invented-This.
For this to be a new system you need to travel back to 1992 when France adopted it.
Anyway, it can't ever be purely proximity based (like the contactless payments systems that you are presumably worried about) because it requires your PIN to authorise the transaction. Since its challenge/response there is presumably little benefit to eavesdropping on one transaction - you're not going to capture anything that will allow you to perform additional transactions in future.
The first proper credit card in the US was 1958, the first outside the US was 1966 (according to Wikipedia). I'm not sure that an 8 year head start investment of infrastructure from 50 years ago is a plausible explanation.
It's easy to make excuses to save national face, but given the massive fraud reduction that chip and pin brings the likely result is that you have spent the last 10 years or so paying for the increased credit fraud in the US through charges or through increased interest rates on credit card debt.
Someone has dragged the process out for their own gain and they'll do it again next time round if you accept it.
Chip and pin is not proximity based. You put your card in a handset and enter your pin to authorise the transaction like at a cashpoint.
The handset never gets access to the PIN in the card, only the one you enter on the pad.
It's genuinely surprising that there is still somewhere where this is not the standard. I can't remember the last time I had to sign for a card transaction.
While describing Dara O'Briain as a comedian is accurate, it's worth nothing that he has a degree in mathematics and theoretical physics.. He's not just there for fart jokes.
I'd DEFINITELY start by drawing everybody's attention to it online as much as possible. Perhaps by posting about it on one of the more widely read techie news sites?
Maybe a sort of reverse Streisand effect could be created.
For example, in the US you can die for your country but you can't drink a beer - service personnel don't have to be at least 21 years old to enlist, but you do have to be 21 to drink legally. And the same is true in the UK and most other countries.
Actually, in the UK you can buy alcohol at 18 and although you can sign up for the army at 16 (I believe) we have a policy of not sending under 18s in to combat, apparently.
Fourth, we do not allow people to bring in novels to read during work hours, why should they be able to browse the web?
Does this mean you have a strip search policy at the door to check for all novels then? Or do you just have a policy that employees reading novels during work time would be subject to disciplinary action from their manager? Why the double standard for web access?
A lot of that money is going into the animatronic dinosaurs, which are pictured as coexisting with modern humans before the Fall. According to the article, up to 50 million Americans believe this.
Is The Flintstones screened as a documentary in the US?
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If you actually read the article itâ(TM)s clear that they have no actual information to base it on. It basically boils down to âif apple have done zero research and preparation about how to certify this and so are starting from scratch right now, today, it could take a long timeâ(TM), which may be true but itâ(TM)s a rather implausible scenario.
How topical. Do you have any material on the millennium bug you want to share?
In the context of this discussion Apple aren't getting rid of the headphone jack - it's the only connector the new MBP does have aside from USBC.
What the fuck is this? Seriously? What. The. Fuck. Taco must be turning in his grave/money pit at what the various owners of Slashdot have done to it since he sold it on.
There is more chance of selecting employees through gladiatorial combat trials than there is of using genetic profiling for this purpose anywhere in the EU.
Apple won't fix a widespread problem even if it is just a firmware update for them, so don't count on a solution
Well, just as a counterpoint to this, I had a problem with my 3+ year old Macbook pro retina where the screen just died one day. It was well out of warranty (I never bought any extended cover). I bit of googling found this (https://www.apple.com/uk/support/macbookpro-videoissues/) which says that Apple was aware there was a problem with some of the display controllers in the model I have. I took it in to my local Apple store, and 24 hours later they had replaced the display controller and I had the laptop back working perfectly. That's a repair that would have cost £3-500 (I can't remember what it was, but it was in that range).
I've also previously had an iphone which just stopped doing wifi one day and they replaced that on the spot in the apple store. One icloud restore later and the phone was good as new. I think that one might have been less than a year old though, so perhaps less impressive in terms of customer service.
You read the bit where he stabbed a guy 4 times with a samurai sword, right? I know in Texas that sort of thing is fine, but in the UK that's not considered self defence.
Also, that article is from 11 years ago, can you not find a more relevant example? We've had 2 (semi) different governments since then.
That film has already been made (albeit on a mountain on earth, not in a cave on Mars). It's called Touching the Void and it's a true story.
Next time there's a Slashdot story where the consensus among the wise, assembled community (who always have mysterious insight above and beyond the people behind the technology in question) is It'll-Never-Work, just remember this article.
We're talking about a technology that is 20 years old, deployed globally and (based on the complete absence of negative comments from current users) a universally accepted improvement upon the system it replaced.
And the running theme from the (let's face it : primarily American) contingent in the comments is It-Can-Never-Work, It's-Hopelessly-Flawed and What-Idiot-Invented-This.
Slashdot is a special place.
For this to be a new system you need to travel back to 1992 when France adopted it.
Anyway, it can't ever be purely proximity based (like the contactless payments systems that you are presumably worried about) because it requires your PIN to authorise the transaction. Since its challenge/response there is presumably little benefit to eavesdropping on one transaction - you're not going to capture anything that will allow you to perform additional transactions in future.
The first proper credit card in the US was 1958, the first outside the US was 1966 (according to Wikipedia). I'm not sure that an 8 year head start investment of infrastructure from 50 years ago is a plausible explanation.
It's easy to make excuses to save national face, but given the massive fraud reduction that chip and pin brings the likely result is that you have spent the last 10 years or so paying for the increased credit fraud in the US through charges or through increased interest rates on credit card debt.
Someone has dragged the process out for their own gain and they'll do it again next time round if you accept it.
Chip and pin is not proximity based. You put your card in a handset and enter your pin to authorise the transaction like at a cashpoint. The handset never gets access to the PIN in the card, only the one you enter on the pad. It's genuinely surprising that there is still somewhere where this is not the standard. I can't remember the last time I had to sign for a card transaction.
While describing Dara O'Briain as a comedian is accurate, it's worth nothing that he has a degree in mathematics and theoretical physics.. He's not just there for fart jokes.
Labour would have done exactly the same, give or take a few details. It makes no real difference.
Er, would that be the labour government that just finished putting the database in? How does that make any sense?
Actual serious answer: they don't. Too many chances to lose them.
So? Just break in!
I'd DEFINITELY start by drawing everybody's attention to it online as much as possible. Perhaps by posting about it on one of the more widely read techie news sites? Maybe a sort of reverse Streisand effect could be created.
Next time let the guy who knows the correct form of 'you're' win the argument.
>Instead of setting a radar to pump out radio waves, why not set a device like that to send an amplified return?
;)
Yes, let's make bats safer around wind turbines by jamming their sonar
This is only effective for the underwater bats and wind turbines. TFA is about the overground kind.
Repeatedly facepalm fast enough and it'd be quite like clapping.
It was a bizarre tyme for photographers then.
But atleast it smelt nice.
For example, in the US you can die for your country but you can't drink a beer - service personnel don't have to be at least 21 years old to enlist, but you do have to be 21 to drink legally. And the same is true in the UK and most other countries.
Actually, in the UK you can buy alcohol at 18 and although you can sign up for the army at 16 (I believe) we have a policy of not sending under 18s in to combat, apparently.
It's just security flaw terminology. You're taking something personally that's not meant to be read that way.
Stop criticising me!
Fourth, we do not allow people to bring in novels to read during work hours, why should they be able to browse the web?
Does this mean you have a strip search policy at the door to check for all novels then? Or do you just have a policy that employees reading novels during work time would be subject to disciplinary action from their manager? Why the double standard for web access?
Thing is, only way to know about it is if you read the bug
/ 1.5.0.8.html#issues
Or if, for example, you were to read the release notes?
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/releases
A lot of that money is going into the animatronic dinosaurs, which are pictured as coexisting with modern humans before the Fall. According to the article, up to 50 million Americans believe this.
Is The Flintstones screened as a documentary in the US?