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Sony Annouces Linux PS2 Port for US

krismon writes "Sony has announced that it is gonna release the Linux port(old Slashdot article) for the Playstation 2 in the US, after selling out SUPER fast in japan." I saw this running, it's pretty impressive.

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  1. it makes perfect economic sense by alewando · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While Sony is really earns its bread in the liscensing market rather than the hardware market, it is still important for them to put units in consumers' homes, because that is the only way to build a userbase for PS2 games.

    What is the additional cost for releasing a linux-enabled PS2 machine? Not terribly much. It's the sort of thing linux enthusiasts might release on their own in a few months, given a chance. By putting in this marginal amount of effort, Sony gets both a more valuable commodity and some brownie points among linux enthusiasts.

    I honestly can't see a single downside for them. The remarkable point is not that the PS2 is capable of this but rather that Sony actually had the foresight to act upon it. That's the hallmark of a nimble corporation and speaks loads for their future.

    Of course, Sony is also in bed with the RIAA and the dvd cca, so anyone who buys a PS2 is going to hell in my book, but that's your choice.

    1. Re:it makes perfect economic sense by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the issue here is not running linux on a console per say but more of using a ps2 for things like crunching spreadsheets and wordprocessing in these difficult economic times. Japan got hit hard during this recession. Why buy an expensive, slow, and soon to be pay per month pc, when you can do work and internet browsing from a console. The machine is very powerfull and should have more uses then just for blowing up things in video games.

      I wonder if its because of the integrated spreadsheet and word processor thats really driving the sales of linux on ps2.

  2. Re:Important Notes Re: Linux PS2 by ActMatrix · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This would be ideal for people wanting to send copies of their summer party video to their friends, none of whom own a pc, but all who have playstations.

    Er, right...because far more people have PlaySation 2 consoles than PC's, and none of them have VCR's so you couldn't dub that summer party video to tape.

    I'm nitpicking, and yeah it's a cool hack just like NetBSD or Linux was for the Dreamcast. Sure, people got some emulators and mp3 players going on that console, but that's all. Lots of free-software games for the PS2? I'll remain skeptical...everything I've read indicates that the system is a bitch to program for anyway.

  3. Re:Important Notes Re: Linux PS2 by grammar+nazi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You couldn't be any farther from the truth. The *actual* reason that Sony has announced a Linux Release for the PS2 is because of pressure from the XBox.

    According to popular rumor, the "HomeStation" is Microsoft's 2nd generation XBox. This will provide television recording, internet surfing, games, kitchen sink, etc. How can the poor little PS2 and its successors keep up with that?

    How?

    By using Open Source software. Currently, the PS2 running Linux has far more applications than the HomeStation (since the HomeStation is still in Development). All Sony has to do is stay ahead of Microsoft.

    If Microsoft runs a native windows type OS or something on their HomeStation and markets it as a computer, then we have anti-trust laws being broke even more than now. Microsoft can't get away with owning the hardware and the software.

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  4. Re:What is the point? by Phil+Wherry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I agree that the PS2 isn't going to be a general-purpose computing platform in the same sense that your desktop machine is, please keep in mind that consumer electronics/entertainment hardware quite likely represents the next battleground for "mindshare".

    Even if the initial implementations are kind of silly, I'm really pleased to see open source software reaching the embedded device market. It becomes a lot harder, for example, to force a completely one-sided "digital rights management" scheme on consumers when there exists more than one viable platform choice for the consumer.

  5. But Why? But Why Not? by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some are of course questioning WHY?

    With a keyboard, mouse, Hard Drive, and Ethernet/Modem adapter, SONY may have essentially created the next cheap home computer, and they'll be able to push this onto the market as such with the right marketing.

    You see- back in the days of the Commodore 64 a computer didn't have to have a completely dedicated setup for people. It was fine to have a computer just plugged into the TV for occassional gaming, BBS, and type-work.

    The Playstation 2 can perform all of the modern equvilants of these roles, and it doesn't even REALLY need Linux to do it, but why complain that it uses Linux?

    While I honestly DOUBT that Linux is going to be a major part of the Sony Playstation's acceptance as a general purpose low-cost computing device, I honestly do think it's a "Good Thing" for Linux. Think of the number of budding coders that could print their first "Hello World" on this thing? And while Microsoft may own the PC market right now they don't own EVERY market, at least, not yet, and there is room for a whole new level of personal computers. A market that hasn't been filled since the last of the Amiga 500's began to die off.

    Dreamcast could've had that market, but they ignored it. XBox could have that Market, but Microsoft won't play their cards right (I don't think). Nintendo doesn't want that market or they would've had it a long time ago.

    Sony. Linux. It bothers me, but I can see it happening.

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  6. XBox by Hostile17 · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I am going to wait for the Linux Hack of the XBox. A 766 Proccessor, 8 GB HDD and NVIDIA video, for $299, can't be beat this side of an E-Machine.


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  7. Bridgehead into the home ... by LL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why do both MS and Sony want to control the broadband bridgehead into the living room? Because they can then become the toll-booth onto the distribution of electronic services. It may surprise people but Sony has acquired themselves a bank and MS own a controlling stake in a cheque clearing-house. Much like phone companies have to subsidise handsets and stick customers with the long-term contracts, everyone is gunning for a slice of the electronic services that businesses are switching over ... you don't buy airline tickets, you bid for a seat, insurance, superannuation, identity, membership of professional societies, job contracts, even social contacts (rolodex on steroids) ... all these are basically electronic goods that people will be willing to acquire.

    The problems is making someone else fork out the capital for infrastructure, the smart people identify the bottlenecks and position themselves where the traffic concentration makes it worthwhile to extract their tax/toll/vig.

    Nothing changed from highway robbery days except who gets to collect the loot.

    LL

  8. Re:What is the point? by VFVTHUNTER · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Japanese version ships with a combo hard-drive/10-100Mbit ethernet connection.

    The printer port is /dev/usb.

    Why plug in a cdrom drive? It's got a CD/DVD drive.

    We won't know what its uses are until we get them, now will we? Depends on how much 'puting power they have. With only 32MB of RAM, don't go expecting a whole lot.

    I will be buying one for the following reasons presently:

    Sony Playstation 2: $300

    Sony PS2 Linux Kit: probably $200

    The convenience of not having to get off the couch when I want to get some porn off the net: priceless.

  9. Re:You DONT really want this... by dstone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    [insert-platform-name-here] doesnt have much memory and its unexpandable anyway

    Famous last words! (Where's the hacker spirit?!)

  10. Enough already by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not the type to go off on a diatribe about how 'bad slashdot has gotten' and how it's 'sold out', but I'm starting to feel like while reading the site, I have to dodge commercials for Sony products. One day I'm reading about a 'call to arms' against the SSSCA and the record industry that's pushing it, the next day I'm passing over "news stories" that scream hooray Sony! Sony being one of the largest parts of the RIAA, and representing a very large amount of political contributions. Feh.

  11. Re:Post the Source, SONY ... by RupW · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But it's not worth it if i can't re-compile my kernel and learn from looking through the source.

    If you did recompile your kernel, how would you boot into it? You can't just burn a new CD yourself because of the PS2 copy protection system. If they haven't designed their bootloader to let you do this then you'd have to resort to /proc/kmem tricks.

    My understanding is that they only have to offer the source to anyone they give a binary to, i.e. anyone who buys a PS2 Linux kit. However, they then can't stop someone who did buy a kit posting the source on the web.