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"Future Tech" vs KDE Developer

Once in awhile a story comes along that warrants mention just so that people know to be careful. Mosfet is a KDE coder (who has had tension with KDE in the past and left some ill will over there). He was hired by Future Technology to continue work on his Liquid KDE style and theme (my personal favorite). But they never paid him, so he removed their name and mentioned it in the Changelog. Now FT is threatening legal action to get the Changelog off the net. But it's more bizarre because MandrakeSoft is the host, and the site remains up. Keep reading if you're interested in a few more bits.

I've been a huge fan of Liquid for some time. I've been compiling releases and using on my laptop. The project isn't nearly as ambitious as Enlightenment, but it has some interesting UI ideas and it looks good. I was really pleased when I found out that Mosfet was going to have a shot at continuing the development of the program for FT under the KDE License. At this point, FT ("The Total Linux Company," according to their website) mentioned a few of the features in Liquid as being part of the benefits of FT's distribution. This was to set them apart from "Other" distributions, although even at the time I found it funny, as The final decision in selecting one RPM based distribution over another would rarely be tipped in favor of the one with translucent menus ;)

Anyway the Changelog contains the following line:

* Future Technologies' name has been removed. They hired me to do KDE development, but failed to pay me after promising to do so three times over the span of several months :( I still haven't seen any of the paychecks they said they would send me, and they even went as far as sending me a fake FedEx number. Now they are saying they can't afford to pay their employees.

And soon after Mosfet's website announced that he was leaving Linux and Liquid was dead. Unable to afford to develop Liquid for free, he was seeking work in the windows world.

According to the site, on 10/28, Dr. Giovanni asked Mandrakesoft, the host of Mosfet.org to take down the site, under threat of legal action. But since I see the site still there, it looks like they are standing their ground which is a good thing.

Anyway, I don't know what the moral of the story is, beyond a warning to keep both eyes open. There is a lot of questionable stuff that goes on in this world. Be careful.

(I've emailed Giovanni from FT but have yet to hear back from him.)

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  1. Enlightenment link is wrong by carlivar · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Enlightenment is here, not here.

    Also, who needs KDE or Gnome anyway? Enlightenment's all ya need. All those "features" just get in the way of doing stuff.

    Carl
    Vote Libertarian

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    1. Re:Enlightenment link is wrong by nmilford · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Very true... I would like to take your advocation for "E" to state that I personally enjoy BlackBox. It is small light weight and is GREAT for less powerful boxes (older sparcs). I love "E" on my workstation, but 4 open xterms in a BB session is ALL anyone needs, barebones. Sorry to turn the thread into an advocation-type echo, I am not denying "E," >8)

    2. Re:Enlightenment link is wrong by krogoth · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      "Enlightenment is here [enlightenment.org], not here [enlightenment.com]." (links not copied. Look at the parent to understand)

      No, I believe you're wrong. They were actually trying to link to Alex Chiu's site, not the Enlightenment Window Manager. They still got the wrong link, but you don't have the right one either.

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    3. Re:Enlightenment link is wrong by grammar+nazi · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I don't assume identities of anonymous cowards. I was mostly kidding about my retalitory comment to nmilford. I was just a little upset that his nmilford's comment was above mine in the list.

      Where's the cabin at in the U.P.? Are you originally from Michigan? I am. I also love the U.P.

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      Keeping /. free of grammatical errors for ~5 years.
    4. Re:Enlightenment link is wrong by bonzoesc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Don't be dissin' Alex Chiu - click my sig to get him to help you!

  2. Beware by pete-classic · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    of companies with self-signed certificates!

    -Peter

  3. Re:Mosfet should sue FT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    hernia = break in abdomen wall where intestine protrudes, making a buldge normally to the left or right side of the pelvis region.

    ie: hernia != hemoroides.

  4. Re:Mechanic's lein by Glytch · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ah, I see. So destroying civil rights is the best way to preserve them?

    Cattle like you deserve the police state you'll get. Mooooooo.

    By the way, I hear your freedom-loving government bombed another Red Cross station.

  5. OT - was Re:Mechanic's lein by fanatic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Witnesses stated that this Red Cross station exploded much more strongly than expected, implying that there was more there than wheat and blankets. Other sources state that the Taliban, have started using mosques, hospitals and NGO properties to hide in and store arms, to avoid bombing.

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  6. Re:Mechanic's lein by J.J. · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Cattle like you deserve the police state you'll get. Mooooooo

    The recent anti-terrorism bills that have been passed are the unfortunate result of patriotism. Folks the nation over are wishing to do whatever they can to help - everyone wants to do what they can to 'rebuild America'. Most Americans aren't in a position where they can do anything except wave the flag.

    Our Congressmen are no different - they wish to help, and to 'appear decisive and taking action to counter the threat of terrorism'. Unfortunately, they are in a position where they can do things - even when they shouldn't.

    Be patient - cooler heads will prevail, and things will return to a happy medium.

  7. Mods on crack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    you give this guy a +4 interesting??? he said nothing that anyone with an IQ of 70 didn't know already. oh wait, maybe that is why you modded him the way you did.........

  8. kde-look.org by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    KDE-Look is a great site! It's got all sorts of great stuff, more than kde.themes.org ever had, and better too. The site has more features, a better interface, and it is updated more often than kde.themes.org, and it is here right now.

    I especially like the Noatun skin section, I had no idea that there were such cool skins out there that Noatun could use. Now if only Noatun would stop skipping and get more playlist features, it would be better than XMMS.

    Oh, and for a cool wallpaper no matter what desktop you are using, try this artful take on a crash :-)

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  9. Re:Mechanic's lein by sminra · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Lord, how I loathe these dopey, glassy-eyed, brainwashed nationalistic USian jingo robots.

    Please lift me up and cleanse me, dear lord, of the urge to smear poop in their faces.

    The world will move on, and the American people will forget before this war will be done.

    What kind of bullshit is this? American people will forget what exactlyForget WTC? Aah right. Before you rite sumthin reel smart, be shure to theenk carfulley if yer sentence makes eny sense. If it doesn't, you've just kaught yourself intellectually wanking. [bitch-slap] Shame on you.

    But 5000 Americans will still be dead. Oh come off it, duuuude. The Red Cross lists 2,600 dead, and all the employees lost by firms in the building total to about 2,500. The number of tourists and service workers is estimated at maximally 300.

    Now isn't it just FUNNY how most of America is still referring to 5-6,000 dead?

    There is nothing to stop it from happening again. Be glad you live in a country that has the strength and capability to try and change that.

    For a human to be able to write a sentence like this requires complete ignorance and/or denial of US foreign policy of the past 50+ years. I can understand that. In this case, ignorance is bliss. The truth hurts - and I'm guessing it's probably more than your shriveled spirit can handle. In the last twenty years, the USA has been the greatest promoter of global wholesale terror in the entire world. The USA has done more to cause ethnic violence, terror, torture and economic impoverishment than any other nation on the planet. You are, indeed, 'number one', you fat fucking chumps. The way to stop the small-scale (retail) terrorism we've seen from islamic fundamentalists is to stop the large-scale (wholesale) terrorism practiced by the USA and its surrogates.

    But I expect this message will go right over your head - possibly because it's wedged so deep in your remote-controlled Commander In Chiefs' ass that you can't hear anything above his flatulence. If you are wondering why GWB's farts smell like rotting Afghani children, I can give you a four word hint: Perfectly Preventable Plagues and Pestilence. The USA is quietly executing the greatest act of genocide of the new millenium. Since the advent of the bombing the number of Afghanis who have fled in terror and/or are starving and cut-off from food relief by US bombing has increased to 7 to 8 MILLION. Tens of thousands of innocent people are starving to death, and the USA is pursuing an illegal unilateral military invasion designed to remind the world who's #1 in the new milennium. Refugee camps have been mysteriously plagued by diseases not previously known to the country.

  10. OT: Number one cause of terror. by Convergence · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Yes, if your reasoning is twisted enough, the US is the number one cause of terrorism, and no matter what it does, it cannot escape that position.

    As the worlds most powerful nation, it can be blamed for anything and everything, for doing actions, for not doing actions, for each and every action of commerce or trade it does or doesn't do.

    Those who do no such trade, those who have no power are few lucky people who cannot be blamed for being terrorists. Because of their powerlessness.

    IE, those with power are also the ones with the greatest percentage of international interactions, even if they have a lower percentage of 'evil interactions', they may still end up responsible for a great share of international strife. Not because of their innate evilness but just because they are involved in so many places and so many ways.

    As for random other statistics, a couple of thousand Afghan *infants* die a week, even before this recent hell. (Computed from population, birth rate and infant mortality rate statistics taken from CIA world factbook.)

    Are we terrorists for not helping to save the poor children. Do keep in mind that we've been sending enough aid to account for .5-2% of their GDP *yearly*.

    The US sucks, and screws up, but don't fall into the trap of automatically blaming the powerful for all deeds by confusing the 'rate of misdeeds' (#misdeeds/#interactions) with the 'absolute number of misdeeds'. For example, there are more airplane crashes a year, even though the accident rate is slowly falling, based soley on the number of flights increasing.

    If you argue that the US is responsible for a the largest share of misdeeds, I could believe it.

    I won't believe without more evidence a claim that we have a high rate of misdeeds. There are too many petty dictators destroying their populations, or their neighbors populations for me to believe that the US is anywhere near the top of that list.

    It is fallacious reasoning to blame the US for everything just because it is involved in everything. A big fish makes a lot more eddies swimming gently than a sperm swimming frantically. :)

    Scott

    PS: got a reference on the statistic of only being 2500 deaths?

    PPS: And, better take this to email.