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Pixar Finally Offers Animated Shorts on Pixar.com

NicerGuy writes "Today I was bored and decided to check out pixar.com. I hadn't been there in a long time, but was pleasantly surprised to find that they have finally made all(?) of their animated shorts available for download. The films, which are in QuickTime format, include my favorites: Geri's Game and Luxo Jr."

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  1. Re:Cool by onion2k · · Score: 2

    Well now theres no excuse for buying it.. :)

  2. Really neat by BravoXL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remeber seeing most of these in the theater before moives. It still reall impresses me that Luxo was made in 1986. Could you imagine how long that must have taken to render? Anyway it's really neat to be able to see these shorts again.

    1. Re:Really neat by Monsieur_F · · Score: 5, Informative

      Really nice. Thank you Pixar :)

      Why is everybody saying Pixar=Steve Jobs ?
      Pixar is John Lasseter, that's all.
      He's an artist, and I love all that he has done,
      from the very beginning.

      I think one of the first 3D computer rendered image that Pixar made and got used in a movie was in "Young Sherlock Holmes", but I am not sure about this...

      By the way, if you like short animation movies you can also
      go to Aardman, and enjoy some movies from the makers of Chicken Run !

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    2. Re:Really neat by malducin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well Pixar got started first as the Lucasfilm Computer Graphics Group back in 1979. Back in those days Triple I, one of the pioneer companies in commercial CG, did a test for Lucas that had several CG X-Wings flying around. This was for the FX work in Empire Strikes Back. Art Durinski and Gary Demos were among those involved. Unfortunately they couln't come to financial terms and Lucas opted to continue the traditional way but move ILM to Northern California. But Lucas was so impressed that he decided to start his own CG division. The first guy they hired was Ed Catmull but many others soon followed and the Lucasfilm Computer Graphics Group was born. They worked on maby things, from the Pixar Image Computer, film scanning, the beginnings of RenderMan and shading languages and digital compositing, among many things. They produced the Death Star hologram for Return of the Jedi. One of the last few things they did was the Andre and Wally B. short, that's why you'll see Lucasfilm credits in there.

      But Catmull was always interested in doing animated movies while Lucas was interested in photorealistic effects. So he let Catmull look around and later in 1986 Lucas sold Pixar to Steve Jobs (of course way before he went back to Apple). While Jobs might be the owner, if you want to equate Pixar with someone that would be Catmull (though there are many talented folks there). They also had an agreement that ILM would get first access to any new technology Pixar developed. And the rest as they say is history.

    3. Re:Really neat by malducin · · Score: 2

      Yes it came before. But notice I said "full frame all digital compositing", not morphing FX or any other CG FX. There was a period when ILM had a mixed approach a transition because they were still not sure of digital compositing versus optical.

      Even before Willow, ILM started using CG FX. Star trek 4 had the morphing heads captured from Cyberscans of the actors, Die Hard 2, Young Sherlock Holmes etc. Depending on what you consider digital FX, ILM was doing way before Last Crusade but still composited part or all the frame optically.

  3. Shorts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The first time I read this I thought to myself "Why would I wanna see someone's animated undergarments?"

    If it hadn't been for the Luxo Jr. mention, I would have not been enlightened for quite some time.

  4. Ooh, so confusing by at-b · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just dunno. My value system is mightily screwed up here, guys.

    Pixar == Disney distribution == Disney == bad.

    but

    Pixar == nifty films == good!

    but

    Pixar == Steve Jobs == Apple == bad!

    but

    Apple == iPod == lame?

    (this is where it gets confusing)

    Pixar (also) == Linux == geeky == GOOD!

    but

    Linux == Pixar films == more money to MPAA == BAD!

    but

    Linux == less money to Bill Gates == GOOD!

    but

    Pixar == Apple == Sorenson Codec == BAD!

    but

    Sorenson Codec == Good Quality at Reasonable Size == GOOD!

    but

    Pixar == Apple != Linux == BAD!

    but

    Apple == OSX == BSD == GOOD!

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaargh!

    Thinking in more than one direction is really confusing. Someone post something about MS embracing and extending something, even if it's just an elastic band. Please? I need my world to be set right again.

    Maybe a frogurt?

    Alex

    1. Re:Ooh, so confusing by SLOGEN · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since already the 2 statements:

      1. Pixar == nifty films == good!
      2. Pixar == Steve Jobs == Apple == bad!

      Prove that (since == is transetive):

      • good == bad

      And it's a generally accepted axiom that:

      • good != bad

      When we apply the usual axiom of negation:

      • A == B !(A != B)

      We get:

      • !(good == bad)

      We can now invoke the usual definition of && to prove:

      • (bad == good) && !(bad == good) -> false

      Establishing that your proof-system is not sound and thus you should expect it to be confusing, since it can prove any statement what-so-ever.

      I suspect, that if you remove the "transetive" property from your definition of "==" your system may become sound, but unfortunatly not as funny.

      Logic is not easy, but it's good clean fun

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    2. Re:Ooh, so confusing by squaretorus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      indeed!
      This is why little companies should STAY little companies, or be broken out into little companies if they were originally part of a big company.

      The whole movie industry stinks - but their products, occassionally, don't.

      Pixar=Disney=Cant give them money.

      BUT - the last 5 seconds of the monsters inc trailer is the funniest thing I've seen in YEARS - no... wait... EVER!

      Whats a guy to do?? I dunno - Im going to have to either wait for it to be on free to air TV or sneak into the movies for the first time since I was 13.

    3. Re:Ooh, so confusing by Eccles · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple == iPod == lame?

      Remember that iPod retails for *exactly* the same cost as Toshiba sells the hard drive it contains. That is not lame. The only bad thing is no digital still camera I know of has a firewire output, or you could use it as a 5 gig storage thingie for a digicam, with it easily fitting in your pocket.

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  5. Re:other formats by Voidhobo · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, here's why it's QuickTime:

    Pixar ==> Steve Jobs
    Steve Jobs ==> Apple/NeXT
    Apple/NeXT ==> MacOS
    MacOS ==> QuickTime

  6. I doubt Pixar will turn a profit this year... by Shaheen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because their bandwidth bill is going to sky rocket today.

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  7. Better on dvd by zudo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Whilst this is undoubtedly cool to see the ultimate way to wath the shorts is of course on dvd. Where do I get them you ask? Well we all know Geri's game is on a bugs life but over here in Britain at least there are quite a few shorts on the toy story 1 and 2 box set. Not sure if this was a collectors edition or what but it comes with a third disc with all sorts of lovely goodies on it. Can't remember eactly which shorts are there but Tin Toy certainly is and I think Luxo is too

    1. Re:Better on dvd by daniel_isaacs · · Score: 2

      Tin Toy is on Disc 1 and Luxo is on Disc 2. The supplemental disc doesn't have any shorts, but it does explain all the hidden jokes.

      My box is silver. The Ultimate Toy Box. I'm sure that makes me cooler than someone.

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    2. Re:Better on dvd by malducin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well there is also a VHS tape called Tiny Toy Stories that has all the classic Pixar Shorts from Luxo Jr. to Tin Toy. It's a bit hard to find but worth. Also from time to time Pixar have given tapes of their shorts (well at least Geri's Game, a months before it was attached to A Bugs Life) at SIGGRAPH. They are not the only ones, Blue Sky Studios also distributed Bunny on DVD at SIGGRAPH, very cool.

  8. Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. by Nailer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Codeweavers Crossover allows you to view Apple Quicktime. Shockwave, Ipix, and other Win32 based browser plugins under Linux.

    it uses Wine, buts in a much more limited and controllable environment, meaning its a lot more stable. It supports any browser which support the Netscape plugin API (Galeon, Mozilla, etc) but bugs in Konq nspluginapi implementation means that Konq and Quicktime is a no goer (currently anyway).

    Its twenty US bucks and the cash goes towards the salaries of the fellows who work on the free, main Wine project. it can be clunky at times 9when running Quicktime as a standalone app) but generally its OK. Galeon, OTOH, works with it a treat. I've viewed every single trailer at apple.com with it (to the point of being kicked off my ISP for bandwidth overuse :D ).

    Version 1.01 is coming out this week, BTW, which apprently fixes a lot of the bugs of earlier versions.

    its a good product and worth the small price. The money also goes to a good cause that contributes to the community.

    No, I don't work for them :D

    1. Re:Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. by forgoil · · Score: 2

      Don't go qoute me on this, but doesn't Konqi in KDE play just about everything since it can use just about any plug-ins you can come up with?

      Hmm, two solutions here:

      1. Kill of Proprietary formats so anyone can code plug ins
      2. Generic plug-in format with open API specs.

      I propose 1 && 2 ;)

    2. Re:Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. by Nailer · · Score: 2

      From what it seems, the Wine -> NSPlugin32 bridge and the menu is proprietary.

      All the other code is contributed into Wine, which was BSD licensed (I think last time I looked. Codeweavers of course pays the salary of Wine founder Alexandre Julliard and many other major wine developers, including their work on enhacing the Open Source one.

      I'm happy with that and I think most people should be.

  9. Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter by Kraft · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case you don't know, the director of Luxo Jr. is John Lasseter - the guy who directed the Toy Stories.

    Anyway, Luxo Jr. is a classic in computer animation. The most amazing part, is that it is made in 1986. This little movie really pushed the mental limit for people as to what computers could produce. Sure, Lasseter wasn't the only one experimenting at the time, but IMO this particular animation made computer animation respectable as it even got nominated for an Oscar under the category Animated Short Film in 87. Well, it's fun no matter what - check it out.

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    1. Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter by wct · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, Luxo Jr was a classic. It's amazing to see how far hardware has come; Luxo was rendered in realtime by a GeForce 3 card in a Macworld demo. I'd link up the demo but according to this interview it is not being released :(

    2. Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter by malducin · · Score: 2

      Well here is a brief post by Tom Duff, one of Pixar's top guys, in the RenderMan newsgroup:

      Pixar's renowned shorts

      He mentions it was done in 4 old VAX/780s, done while RenderMan was still in development. No RIB, no shading language. RenderMan didn't get fully realized until a couple years later. The RenderMan Companion book which culminated the effort ((though it doesn't cover RIB) wasn't published until 1989.

  10. Anyone else think this is funny? by dimator · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/eo/20011101/en/_quot_ shrek_quot_stalks_quot_monsters_inc_quot__1.html

    Disney/Pixar most definitely do not like DreamWorks, and vice versa. Ever notice how Farquad (the villain in Shrek) looks amazingly like Micheal Eisner, and that saying "farquad" fast enough sounds a lot like "fuck wad"? These guys dislike each other on a personal level.

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  11. For the Birds by EvilSinus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately they haven't relased For the Birds on the net yet. I saw it for the first time back in SIGGRAPH2000 in New Orleans, and everybody loved it. It's just incredibly funny, and so well done.

    If I'm not mistaking, the reason it's not up for download yet is because Pixar want to have it nominated for an academy award, for the best animated short. And the academy's rules state a nominee is not allowed to be broadcast on the net or on television, except during animation festivals like SIGGRAPH etc. (Or something to that effect). It was shown at Spike & Mike's Sick & Twisted Animation Festival however.

    It should be submitted to the academy this year. Last year however, a fairly reliable source said a paperwork error made the short miss the submission deadline. If that hadn't been the case I'm sure it'd be up for download aswell.

    1. Re:For the Birds by ewhac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Seconded. For the Birds is hilarious. The character design on the large bird is wonderful. Pixar's animators once again demonstrate sheer mastery of comic timing. Although John Lasseter is Disney-trained, there are definite Warner Bros. and Tex Avery influences evident in this film, as well as Knick-Knack.

      If you have the chance, do yourself a favor and see it.

      Schwab

  12. We've come a long way since Luxo Jr by Anton+Anatopopov · · Score: 2
    I can remember being stunned by that when I first saw it back in the 80s. It really demonstrated to me the potential of 3d graphics.

    We've come a long way since then !

  13. Re:That's a step... by flynn_nrg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Renderman is an open API. Photorealistic Renderman is Pixar's implementation. Anyone can make a Renderman compliant render engine. E.g. BMRT is an alternative implementation, free as in beer. It would make little sense for Pixar to GPL it since is what they make money from, it's their main product.

  14. Sorenson codec by tjgoodwin · · Score: 2
    A while ago I tried to find a Sorenson decoder that I could actually run on my computer. From what I could discover, Sorenson is completely proprietary: Windows yup, MacOS yup, rest of the world forget it.

    Does anybody know any better?

  15. Re:Cool by flegged · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I didn't say I didn't like it. It's just that no one would buy it.

    A Bugs Life is just Yet Another Disney Film (yawn), which, while enjoyable in a mindless sort of way, is a bit jaded even to my seven year old niece.

    Geri's Game, however, is cool. All the Pixar shorts are cool, because they aren't just Yet Another Disney Film. Pixar shorts have originality. While I accept that A Bugs Life isn't targeted at my peer group (well maybe it is targeted at 19 year old Comp Sci students...), it's still a little predictable, even for Disney.

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  16. No one else can have my movie clips! by BELG · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I hadn't been there in a long time, but was pleasantly surprised to find that they have finally made all(?) of their animated shorts available for download."

    Uhm, yeah. You found them, decided no one else could have them, so you submit it to Slashdot knowing that it's the best way of ensuring that their servers will die and that they will remove them again? :)

    Hosting a movie clip of any size and having it posted on Slashdot must be like the ultimate punishment.

  17. pixar != john lasseter by kawaldeep · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pixar is a company that has many, many important people working for it. John Lasseter is a very skilled writer/director, but he'd just be another great writer if it weren't for the amazing scientists at Pixar.

    People like Ed Catmull, Pat Hanrahan, Tom Duff, Loren Carpenter, Bill Reeves, Andy Witkin, Micheal Kass, David Baraff, Larry Gritz (and the rest) are what truly enable Pixar to make such visually compelling stories. Without Pixar providing a conducive atmosphere for their contributions to computer graphics from an academic pov, we'd be worse off.

    There are amazing computer scientists at Pixar, and amazing people holding down the infrastructure. Can anyone imagine the throughput in their LAN during crunchtime?

    All said and done, all these fancy algorithms and implementations would be useless without compelling stories and art. Pixar has amazing artists, nobody should overlook that.

    Pixar and PDI are stalwarts of the commercial (read entertainment) computer graphics industry, and deservingly so, their contributions (in all forms) cannot be overlooked.

    Kawaldeep

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  18. May have to break out the wallet by dinotrac · · Score: 2

    Luxo, jr and Geri's Game?
    Great shorts, especially Geri's Game.
    Saw that when I took the kids to A Bug's Life.
    Made the bugs bearable.

    I may have to break down and shell out for the Crossover Plugin so that I can play these.
    Or -- hmmm. Maybe I can steal the spouse's NT Thinkpad...
    She doesn't really need it, right?

  19. How do you actually download them using Mozilla? by Jorrit · · Score: 2

    I'd like to download the quicktime movies with Mozilla. I don't have a quicktime plugin but I do not want to play them with Mozilla. Just download them so I can play them with whatever I want. Is that possible?

    Greetings

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  20. Less than Spectacular Transfers by ewhac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm in the middle of pulling down Knick-Knack (Bobby McFerrin rocks), and the quality of the transfer to QuickTime is definitely not what I would expect from Pixar. It appears that they did a very simple and very quick film-to-video transfer. The registration is poor (the frame jumps vertically), and the brightness of the imagery varies.

    But most importantly, I think, is that frames have been dropped. In my opinion, this is nearly fatal to Knick-Knack. Knick-Knack has comic timing down to the frame level, nearly as fine as anything done by Tex Avery. By dropping frames -- believe it or not -- part of the joke is lost. Some jokes are three frames long. In particular, I feel the jackhammer scene and cutting torch scene are almost ruined. It's not simply what he's doing that's funny, but how they show him doing it. Every frame is critical to showing that, and I'm surprised and disappointed that they released even a free version in this condition.

    If they do the same thing to For the Birds, it will be ruined, too. They're too wonderful to be seen only in this manner. If you get the opportunity, you owe it to yourself to see them at full frame rate.

    Schwab

  21. Re:Cool by greeny · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually A Bug's Life is none other than:

    Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai.

    Seven strangers are recruited to save a village.

    Which is also remade as:
    The Magnificent Seven,
    Three Amigos,
    and Galaxy Quest

    Amongst others.

    It's not that it's "predictable..." It's that we like to be retold/repackaged good stories.

  22. Re:oh yohoo, quicktime by damiam · · Score: 3, Informative

    XMMS does have Quicktime support, but none of the Linux Quicktime players can play most Internet movies, because they use the proprietary Sorenson codec, of which there is no Linux port (except for the CodeWeavers plugin that uses Wine).

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  23. Quicktime. Great.... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The question I have is, are these Quicktime using a codec that non-Mac, non-Windows folks can view?

    Also, the big argument about Quicktime is "Higher quality, lower bitrate". Does this hold true against MPEG4? DiVX ;)?

    If Pixar is USING Linux internally, why don't they support it more EXTERNALLY?

    And the last question: how does Pixar convert from whatever format they use internally to QuickTime? Are any of these conversion tools available for Linux?

    1. Re:Quicktime. Great.... by forgoil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Higher quality? Give me a break...

      We are not talking about just any source here, we are talking about very high quality rendered animations. It's beyond me how they can release these in anything but the higest possible quality (anything less than DVD quality is a shame).

      Small crappy video might be nifty for modems and not that terribly gr8 sources, but in this case I would argue that the highest possible quality (that everyone can watch) should be the goal. I rather have them put these on their DVDs (which reminds me that I need to buy more of those) than in low quality

  24. Right here by AnotherBrian · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have them on WinMX. I wasn't able to get For the Birds, sorry, search for SLASHDOT_02-11-01 to find them. If someone eles wants to help out see my comment yesterday.

  25. Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX by malducin · · Score: 2

    No, the original Star Wars displays were done by Larry Cuba. The Lucasfilm Computer Graphics Group, which eventually became Pixar was not formed until 1979 (between Star Wars and Empire)

  26. Re:That's a step... by malducin · · Score: 2

    They don't make that much money from RenderMan, their main source now is the animated movies. They don't even do commercials now.

    Still if you wanted an open source RenderMan compliant renderer there is AQSIS hosted at Sourceforge.

    AQSIS

    And there are many others (mostly closed).

  27. Re:Mirrors Please... by Namarrgon · · Score: 2
    Offtopic? Huh?

    I have the For The Birds sneak peak mirrored on Morpheus/KaZaa. Search for ftb_sneak_320.

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  28. Not Exactly by Magnusite · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, lovable Steve is the CEO, but not the founder of Pixar. After he left Apple to form Next (1985 I think), he purchased several divisions that Lucasfilm was selling off (presumably to help with NeXT). These were SoundDroid, EditDroid, and Pixar.

  29. Re:Pixar kicks ass by donglekey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Very true except that Monsters Inc. was produced by John Lasseter and directed by one of the previous top pixar animators. A minor detail.

    I really like the Phantom Menace commentary because it has so many different people talking about how they made the movie, not just George Lucas. That is what a commentary should be I think. The only thing that could have been better would be to have some of the actors on it. How cool would be to have the actor who did the voice of Jar Jar justify himself or Natalie Portman talking about what it was like. Moderators please note that this is actually a contexual use of Natalie Portman.

  30. Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX by td · · Score: 2

    I think the first movie done by what would become Pixar is Star Wars, they did computer readouts of the Death Star.
    As someone else pointed out, Larry Cuba did this. The first movie work done by the Lucasfilm Computer division (later Pixar) was the Genesis demo in Star Trek II. The simulated Death Star display in Return of the Jedi was their second job. (I have first-hand knowledge of both of these.)

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  31. Re:Monsters on warez by robson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its already on the net.
    But the quality is much lower than
    you get in theatre.


    That's the worst haiku I've ever read.

  32. Re:quick, write a letter to quicktime@apple.com by F452 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Inform them that their lack of quicktime support for linux is hurting their bottom line.

    Because a bunch of geeks can't freeload short movies off their server? This is hurting their bottom line?

  33. This is nice, but... by sdo1 · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't it be a lot nicer if they could have posted VCD-ready mpeg files (or better yet, SVCD-ready mpeg2)?

    Yes, I'll still download the quicktime files and convert them with TMPENC and then burn them to VCD (so I can watch on my DVD player). I'd imagine many other people will do the same.

    I'm not complaining, mind you. I'm glad they released these. I'm just surprised that no one seems to ever release VCD-ready files.

    -S

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  34. Re:Clown Nightmare by furiousgeorge · · Score: 2

    I think you're talking about "Reds Dream".

  35. Monsters, Inc. by Animats · · Score: 2
    Just saw it. Good animation, but the plot and character development are inferior to Toy Story 1 or 2.

    As with most Pixar work, there's a strong procedural texture look to the thing. All those Pixar people, endlessly writing separate Renderman shader code for each material. I didn't see anything that was clearly a photographed texture in the Monster world. It's not photorealism; it's procedural cartooning.

    This looks like a lower-budget job than the previous films. Fewer scene changes and more background reuse. No big technical innovations. More of a kid's film than previous Pixar output. Don't expect "Shrek".

    Worth seeing, but don't rush to a theater.

  36. Re:Clown Nightmare by malducin · · Score: 2

    Actually while Red's Dream does involve a clown and a dream he might be referring to Bingo. It was produced internally by Alias/Wavefront under the direction of Chris Landreth, to test the newly created Maya. It premiered at SIGGRAPH 98 in Orlando. You can see it here:

    Chris Landreth portofolio at Maya Masters

    You can also get it on video and DVD. It's included in the SIGGRAPH 98 video review of the Electronic Theatre, and at least in one of the Odysey 3D DVDs/videos (some others also included many classic animation and shorts by PDI among others):

    Issue 125: SIGGRAPH 98 Electronic Theater Program
    Computer Animation Marvels

  37. WINE! by Balinares · · Score: 2

    Believe it or not, QuickTime runs alright with recent builds of WINE. Buggy interface, but then, I never found the interface that great to start with. :)

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