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ZapMedia Finally Releases ZapStation
veader writes: "ZapMedia seems to have finally released the ZapStation. There is no press release yet but they are taking orders on their website.
It looks to offer much more functionality than the recently released HP de100c. CD, DVD, MP3, MPG, WMA, WMV, etc." I have a model for review coming my way so I'll give a detailed report when I have time to plug it in and give it a beating. Like the HP box, it is quite expensive, but it has many more features. The real question is, at the price point for these boxes, can they compete with X-Box or PS2+Hard Drive devices that will be hitting the market and doing many of the same things, but far less expensively?
Sounds like failure.
Seriously, they don't have any large partnerships to move these boxes into the home.
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does anyone know if they will add ogg support sometime in the future?
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Did the marketeers at Zap not realize that any geek that would shell out this much money for a system like this could easily build a box to do all this stuff and more for substantially less cost? Jeez. $700 and maybe I'd think about it.
So what am I getting for $1,500?
A closed-architecture 800mhz Celeron with 128mb of RAM, a 30gb hd, 10baseT, soundcard, video out, DVD and CDRW, wireless keyboard and remote, and some cruddy software that almost certainly pales in comparison to existing free software.
Sounds like about $500 in hardware so far.
You can't record TV shows with it. Can't upgrade to new codecs unless they release updates, so forget OGG. I doubt it supports DivX.
If they sell 10 I will be amazed.
-B
This article isn't garnering the usual amount of posts.
Could it be because all the geeks are scratching their heads wondering why they didn't think of sticking a 800MHz Celeron and 128M RAM into a box and sell it for $1500? You could build this system with OTS parts and still make a mint. (If anyone was stupid enough to actually shell out for such an overpriced, underpowered system.)
I don't think this thing has a burner in it. The site says that you can "record your CDs", but I think that is referring more to the ability to rip them to MP3/WMA.
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For less than $1500 I can build a budget box with TV out and Ethernet cards. I could even build it in a component box so it has the right "look". They need to price this lower to attract my interest.
(Yes, I'll probably get mod'd way down for this but I stand by what I say.)
No press release, no review, nothing but them taking orders. How much did they pay VA/. to post this? I mean, any of us could have found this, gone to their website, and read their marketing literature. Where's the beef?
I'm not trying to imply a conspiracy, but isn't it interesting that Microsoft may have been withholding critical information to give the Xbox a leg up? Something tells me that they are still concerned about the Xbox's success in the marketplace, even when competing with more expensive rivals. I guess that's just one of the risks of letting a single company control so much technology.
-CT
What can it do? The short version:
Play streaming audio/video, MP3, and CDs and DVDs
Store up to 10,000 songs or 20 hours of digital video
Browse the Internet through your television
Record CDs to your ZapStation local hard drive
Create Playlists of your favorite songs
Organize and manage your digital multimedia assets
Download and stream audio and video content from ZapZone
Access and listen to Internet Radio stations
Access news and information from USA TODAY in a madefor TV format.
Enjoy all this from the comfort of your living room with a user- friendly remote control
But I have TV out on my PC's video card, and it's 2 feet away from my TV. So I can do all these things already. (and more - I can burn CD's onto CD-R's!!! Hah!)
OK - so I can't access their "zap zone" - So that's why I have gnutella.
I guess this is a nifty piece of hardware for the great unwashed who have too much money.
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The hp unit sucked most because it has DRM, anyone know what, if any, DRM this unit has?
It says that it records video. But I couldn't figure out if that was just from their ZapMedia portal or from one's cable TV. If it did that, recorded to DVD, and had integrated TV-Guide like behavior, I'd buy one.
As it is (with that $1,500 price, yikes!), it's doomed to failure.
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How can a contemporary DVD player ship without some form of 5.1 - either Dolby or DTS?
And you can't play MP3s from your network - only from the box itself...
No Tivo-like functionality either...
And for how much??? I don't think so...
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Given they make such a point of internet-donwloadable upgrades, why didn't they release early, and upgrade when ready?
They didn't _need_ WM* support out-of-the-box...
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Q. Can you ship the ZapStation internationally?
A. The ZapStation is currently available and operable only in the US.
Sounds like this company doesn't know about the internet. You know, the thing that lets us Canadians view American content and buy American devices?
And what about all you people from Europe, Asia, etc? Doesn't this irk you a little? How can a company be so shortsighted?
Anything this expensive, so niche, and only marketed to less than a few percent of its potential customers is doomed before it leaves the door.
It's been dead before it even got up.
- How can I have a comprehensive user interface to control all media? And of course it would use all of the latest libraries.
- How can I set up a remote control to the PC?
Of course I could write a program to handle every media type I'm interested in with a nice GUI, but I definitely don't have the time or knowledge of the libraries. The remote is probably just a technicality that I could find out more about (generic remote, buy an IR reader connected to serial port, etc). But without loading 100 different programs and user interfaces, does anyone know how or where to find a nice GUI to handle everything? Because that's really the only benefit I see in their product: usability. It would be a fun hack to mimick that with an old PC.Developers: We can use your help.
From the specs page: Graphical interface, wireless keyboard, usb port, ethernet, 800Mhz processor, 128Mb ram, 30Gb HDD, CD/DVD, Stereo Audio, Digital Audio (S/PDIF), Composite Video, S-Video, SVGA, 1/4" Headphone jack...
The only thing different is some hardware controls on the front (an extension of the multimedia keyboards), and a remote.
It's nice and simple, but you don't get the infinite(*) customisability of a real pc.
With some customised linux box I could do all this, burn cds of this media, and play quake3 or gnibbles :)
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If you look at their Spec sheet they don't have any analog input. The only to get things into this box seems to be via USB or ethernet. With the audio USB chips entering the market perhaps this is not such a big deal, tho a ADC would have been nice.
What this thing really needs is DivX compatibility. As far as doing things an Xbox or PS2 + HD cannot, can either of these play MP3, MPG, WMA, or WMV? I know with the Linux-PS2 kit, one could do most of this, but what about the Xbox? Is it going to have an OS port? And would the PS2's processor be able to keep up with MPEG-4 decompression?
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It'll be nice in a year when these things are sold for $89.95 like the 3Com Audrey.
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You're probably right, I was giving them the extreme benefit of the doubt. Drop off $50 from my price estimate, and now I'll be amazed if they sell 5.
-B
[Please note, this is just an opinion piece. These really aren't translations.]
Q. Is a Service required to access all of the features of the ZapStation?
A. Currently no ZapMedia service or subscription is required to access all of the features of the ZapStation.
T. We will ream you for service charges once we run out of venture capital.
Q. Do I need an Internet Service Provider (ISP) to use the ZapStation?
A. To experience all of the features of the ZapStation you will need to have an ISP. Broadband service is strongly encouraged. However, the ZapStation will work with a dial-up connection through a home network.
T. Our device is almost useless to many people in our target market
Q. Will my ZapStation be updated with new releases?
A. Yes, your ZapStation will receive software updates via the Internet.
T. We have designed our device to update itself with anti-consumer code whenever the RIAA/MPAA says "jump".
Q. Can I record my CDs and DVDs on the ZapStation?
A. You can record your CDs but not DVDs.
T. The MPAA already told us not to do this.
Q. What audio streaming formats will the ZapStation support?
A. The ZapStation currently supports MP3 and Windows Media formats.
T. Our product doesn't support the most popular streaming format, RealMedia, because, well... we don't know why. We suck.
Q. Can I transfer MP3s and WMA files from my PC to the ZapStation?
A. Yes, the ZapStation supports transferring MP3, WMA, WMV, and MPEG files.
T. We didn't want to mention if you can transfer them off the ZapStation(tm) because if someone does that the RIAA will be... angry.
Q. Can I create a "music jukebox" with the ZapStation?
A. Yes, you can build audio playlists comprised of songs you have recorded onto the ZapStation from CDs along with songs you have downloaded from the Internet or transferred from your PC to the ZapStation. You can also build video playlists with video files you have downloaded from the ZapMedia portal, the ZapZone, or from the Internet.
T. We want to portalize the internet because look at what it did for excite@home!
Q. How many songs can I record on the ZapStation?
A. Approximately 10,000 songs can be recorded on the ZapStation depending on the recording quality selected and the length of the songs.
T. Our margin wasn't high enough so we put in a tiny 30 Gb HDD and recorded everything at 128 kbps.
Q. Can I record TV programs onto the ZapStation?
A. Currently, the ZapStation does not support recording TV shows.
T. We'll do this when the MPAA says it will let us.
Q. Can I load applications on the ZapStation?
A. No, the ZapStation is a closed system.
T. The ZapStation is about as well supported as a Timex Sinclair is right now.
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T. We threw in an RTL8139 because it only cost $2. It's advanced because it was made this decade.
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T. We're one stupid company. We only sell to America, but think that home theater afficandos hook up their equipment to their Dryers.
Pardon me for being cynical, but at $1500 I can buy a laptop with the same features that doesn't come with RIAA/MPAA baggage.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
Are there any ongoing projects devoted to creating OSS software suites for set top boxes?
The code for something like this is available in pieces, tuner and frame grabber stuff, video and mp3 players, etc.
A project that would tie the pieces togther, along with a reference platform, based on standard PC hardware, is what I'm looking for.
A nice box could be built for under $700. With todays prices $500 is possible.
Cpt_Kirks
$1,500...? Goodness! For that kind of bread you can build yourself a pretty nice box, sans monitor. I thought the whole appeal of the X-Box or a PS2 was that it's a relatively inexpensive alternative to a computer. Sure, they can't do everything a computer can do, but it can be competitive on one or two levels (games, DVD movies...)
To put things another way: I always thought you'd buy a game console because you couldn't afford a computer. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things just a tad (I know quite a few people who own both) or maybe I'm just a computer snob, but who in there right mind would buy this sort of thing?
Cheers!
-Kevin
Great website.
A bunch of full-screen stock photography urging me to "take control of my digital universe".
Do they use Perl to generate this stuff?
All in all it looks like a loser at that price with those features... though clearly there is room for this sort of combination device. It ought to be a tivo, too, no reason for my storage to be compartmentalized between incompatible devices.
Some day.
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can they compete with X-Box or PS2+Hard Drive devices that will be hitting the market and doing many of the same things, but far less expensively?
Um, no. This unit is nothing more than a commercialized version of what hobbysits have been doing for several years: take standard equipment, spray paint a small case, Add IR, and set it next to your TV.
Contrast this with a PS2. You can play DVDs (with Optical Digital output). Upcoming games support DTS 5.1 for in-game sound (not just pre-recorded custscenes). It plays CDs (again, with nice Optical Digital out). Oh, and did I mention Linux? Sony announced that they would be releasing a version of Linux for the US PS2. So, $300 for the unit + ~$100-$150 for a 40GB HD + $39.99 for a NIC = Hell of a lot cheaper, but with all the features. You can plug in standard USB keyboards, mice, and Sony Cybershot Cameras. Hell, those ghetto USB ethernet adapters even work on it (The latest Tony Hawk skateboarding game supports online broadband play throughg them, even though Sony's official NIC hasn't been released yet). Oh, and I heard there are some cool games out for it, too...
Like everyone else hass said: I'll be surprised if they sell 10.
You can setup remote control of your PC with an IRman from Evation. I use this to control xmms, there is a plug in so it's trivial to setup. You can also setup a much more complex IR gateway using software from LIRC. This will allow you to map IR input to shell scripts.
...). For example I used the same software to create a control panel for my TV card(All in Wonder Pro). Here is a screenshot
... Then there are some features such as librarian and presentation tools. It would be rather cool to be able to script a Music/Video/Picture/X10 party mix!!!
For IR output I quite like the RedRat2 as an IR driver. I wrote some GUI software for it, initially to drive my ReplayTV, but eventually to drive my whole A/V stack. See Linux RedRat2 Software. The package can easily be used to wrap a simple control panel around most any mechanism(IR, X10, web,
The home grown package I have put together gives me most of what I want. It's lacking some integration, the ability to use the TV as the visual interface, a web gateway
No Press Release, no info, no nothing. But they are going to give me a toy for free, so let me pimp them here.
(PS, please be nice to them. They might advertise on my site.)
(PPS, Microsoft bad. Linux good.)
Love,
CT
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!
When they first announced these things way back when, I signed up as a pre-order client because they sounded cool and the pricepoint was right. They asked for $599 for when they would ship the pre-release for testing (RSN!), and the retail version would be $899. They promised regular updates on where they were with the product (none ever came), and status queries were met with press releases. Harmon Kardon came into the mix at one point (I notice the pictures have the logo removed now - hmmm...) and further delayed development for re-branding and packaging. Several months ago they said they were releasing the beta units as promised, you just had to reply that you were in. I replied, multiple times, and no one ever got back to me. Yesterday I got an email saying "we're shipping! (oh, but for $900.00 more than we promised you'd get it for)". Late to market, no responses ever to queries other than one form letter, at least 5 "official" scheduling delays (they final figured out using months and yers was bad, and switched to "sometime RSN" about a years ago. Ba ha ha, I'll pass, as I think it is doomed. At the $899.00 it seemed cool. It's kinda interesting though - Compaq's unit went up $100 from release, and the ReQuest is only available in a $2500 flavour. I look at the other audio servers that are out there, and the pickings are really slim. Anyone have a used RQ1-30 for sale?
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It really pains to to see things like this fail when there could be an open source "lite" version of Linux with real standards for vendors to meet. Perhaps even the Linux gaming movement could benefit from this as well. What ever happened to Indrema? Is that development just sitting in the trash or what?
Microsoft is about to take over with the DirectXbox. Support for OpenGL will die after that.
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at least to this crowd, has got to be that it runs linux.
So, let me get this straight...
It's a DVD player that doesn't do component video. Even $100 DVD players have these. Even my PS2 has these - and it's supposed to be a *horrible* DVD player. Serious A/V-philes won't be using this feature. Yeah, it does SVGA, but again, this is a set-top box. I don't see myself connecting this to my PC, much less to a LCD projector.
It's got some vague TV Guide features...but apparentally can't be used as a PVR. It claims you can "navigate ZapStation's channels..." but doesn't explain what this means. Does ZapStation have a tuner in it so you can use it with your existing cable system? What if you have satellite or an external cable box? Meanwhile, you can buy a DVR - which comes with a detailed guide service - from a variety of companies. (My personal favorite is Tivo.)
It's a WebTV-like device, but doesn't support the lowly analog modem, so you either need broadband, or you need to rig your PC to share the modem.
It doesn't (appear to, anyways) support VCDs, MP3 CD(R/RW)s. Again, many $100 DVD players do this already. (to say nothing of PC-based players...)
It only comes with a 30GB drive. Yeah, that's a lot of MP3s...but 30GB is nothing if you want to record video.
I know many are saying "...but I can build a PC to do this for $700..." but that's not what this is supposed to be. It's supposed to be an all-in-one appliance, so you pay for the convience of being able to take this thing out of the box, turn it on, and have it work. This is the same reason people buy toasters, instead of building their own.
Even as an all-in-one integrated appliance, it still fails miserably. You can buy existing products which exceed each function the ZapStation. For around $150, you can get a DVD player that supports component video, digital audio, MP3, VCD, CDR, CDRW. For another $300 you can get a Tivo (even without the extra service fees, this will be more usefull than ZapStation.) For another $300-700 you can get a stereo component MP3 player, which either streams from your existing PC, or stores the tracks locally.
The point of an all-in-one appliance is that you save money due to the integration. However, for $700-1200, you more than replicate the ZapStation's feature set - FOR LESS.
Actually they have a partnership with harmon kardon to manufacture and release these devices under the HK label.
-- Patience is a virtue, but impatience is an art.
Wrong kind of partnership. That kind will get these into stores, but not into homes. Microsoft has partnerships with AT&T, that's the kind of deal that gets devices into people's houses.
You have to be a real nimrod to buy one of these systems.
Anyone with half a brain and a sub-Ghz box can setup a far superior system than this one for a lot less.
It doesn't even cater to gamers.
I'll be watching for the upcoming press release on F*ckedcompany.com
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But that's just it. The remote's not a big deal. In fact, I really like your wireless mouse idea. And a few posters below mention IR methods.
I do use X (I like KDE). But in no matter what wm or desktop I use, there's a plethora of disperse apps to control all multimedia. Want to play MP3s or CDs, load XMMS. Want full audio volume controls for every a/v connection, load KMix. Want to play a DVD, load your DVD software. Want streaming audio, load something else.
It would be great, just for this purpose, to have one nice, clean app which takes up the whole screen and has everything layed out. All simple controls are layed out like a huge remote with easy-to-find buttons and graphics. One "Next Track" button that works with whatever you're running (CD track, MP3 playlist, or DVD chapter, whatever). Press a CD button and press play. Press the MP3 button and use the same play button to start it. A nice, clean common interface. Looks like I'll be staying up late trying to write it myself.
Developers: We can use your help.
That's odd - i thought the whole point was you put an item in the store, then people buy it and take it home. Silly me, what was i thinking.
A closed device that contains its own storage is bound to be a failure in the long term:
1) 30 Gb is not enough. OK, its fine for this year - but I've got about 20 Gb of media, and that covers about 1/8 of my CD collection, let alone the DVDs
2) We all know that hard drives break. If you are doing this seriously you need RAID, or some form of backup. Am I the only person who thinks that the DAT market is about to explode as we all realise that we have 10s of Gb at risk?
So what I'd like is:
1) A dirty great PC (hidden away) that has an arbitrary quantity of disk (200 Gb RAID 5?), a tape drive and a network connection. Linux, 2K, whatever, as long as it can export a file system.
2) A nice SMALL, ELEGANT device that sits with the TV/stereo. It can play video, mp3, whatever - all accessed over the network. It only needs enough flash rom/ram to hold a simple OS and be updateable with new codecs/formats etc. Hell, I'd like several of these things all over the house, all served from the central PC. Use the TV screen to display the menu, or have a simple LCD like the current HDD based mp3 players.
I would easily pay $500 for such a gadget. I'll build the file server myself - probably using all of the noisy HDDs that are currently spinning under my desk.
What about the Shuttle SV24 previously discussed here? A barebones system for $250 (Get it with a free floppy drive from newegg). Add a cpu, RAM, hard drive, dvd with decoder, wireless keyboard and mouse.
Approximate cost for add ons -
Celeron 800 - $40
128MB PC100 - $8 (or $15 if you want name brand)
40GB hard drive - $73
DVD w/ DXR3 - $127
Wireless Keyboard - $55
for an approximate grand total with shipping of $400. I surely won't be forking out $1500 for one of these.
Nope. The point of having partnerships is to expand your market without having to sell anything to anybody.
You think MS-TV is going to be sold in stores? Nope, you'll get it as part of your AT&T Broadband Cable package. You'll pay for it, but you won't even notice. Hell, it may not even be labeled MS-TV, for all you know.
You think companies like Cree and Rambus make money by selling their wares at stores?
Let's say I take my $1500, and instead buy a real nice rig with all the goodies, including a couple big hard drives, say 80 gig each. Maybe even a raid, so I can add more later easily. And I have a TV in card. Is there software that acts like a Tivo, where I can reocrd stuff on a schedule? More importantly, is there software that acts as a reciever box, so I can not only schedule a time, but a channel as well? I don't think there is. But imagine the hemmoraging that would happen if someone cracked the directv reciever, not just the h-card stuff, so that some software would act as the the receiver box. It'd be the ultimate Tivo, a fully functional pc (linux or otherwise) that performed tivo operations, then you could take those shows or movies you enjoyed, and either archive them, or burn them onto DVD's. I think I just started a law suit.
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mp3 server. mp3's actually play off server itself with 75' stereo cabling going through my house to stereo in family room. I then built a handy web page to control this. apache/php webpage manages playlists and such and actually plays them through madplay for low cpu usage. I have an ap downstairs and can then access webpage on my ipaq through dillo. works well
The next step is to try getting the ntsc off my nvidia card to my vcr (same fashion prolly.. stereo cable + rca connector but prolly need vid amp for the signal). If this works, I'd be able to play avi's,
So far, beyound what I already had in my box, I invested $10 for stereo cabling + rca connectors from rat shack.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? - Joshua (Wargames)
This has been done.
Just last week, some folks on the xmame mailing list were discussing modelines for dedicated mame/linux boxes with tv-out.
try searching www.deja.com and www.alltheweb.com
If you're using a TNT or Geforce, look at the pdf file available at Nvidia's Linux driver webpage. It contains a section belonging to the TV output of these
cards.
Oooh man! Do they think this will sell ANY units at $1500? I MIGHT pay more like $400-$500 for it but $1500? I bet it won't take long before the XBox can do everything this can do (well, maybe) but I can CERTAINLY build a computer for about $500 that is faster with a bigger hard drive that does everything this does except the remote and front LCD panel, which I can live without for the $1000 price difference. PLUS mine would be upgradable, play divx and do lots of other stuff. I suppose if it needs custom software I could just whip that up in vb over a weekend.
Kelly had just finished the last summer cheerleading practice.She was the first
girl in ten years to make the squad their freshman year. Several of the other
cheerleaders were upset. Kelly wasn't concerned about their thoughts. She shyed
away from others and had very few friends. She didn't believe in the clicks
people got into. Kelly is one of the prettiest girls in school. Shoulder length
reddish blonde hair, acute face with a small button nose, and always smiled.
Breasts the size of small grapefruits with nipples same size as quarters. Flat
slightly sculptured belly, slender waist, narrow hips, small plump butt and
perfectly shaped legs. All wrapped into a 5'4" 115pds frame.
After showering Kelly dried herself, as she went to her locker. She noticed four
girls across from her locker talking and snickering. Kelly ignored them. After
slipping her cotton bikini pantys on, she grabbed her bra. Somebody had cut the
straps. There was no way she'd be able to wear it now. She turned around to
confront the now, laughing girls. They quickly walked out of the lockeroom.
Kelly put on her low cut tank top, and shorts. After throwing her stuff into her
bag, she headed out. Her breasts stood just as if she had a bra on. Her breasts
firmly jiggled as she walked to the bus stop. Kelly was headed downtown to the
library first. Then to a movie.
Kelly had noticed lately that boys as well as men were looking her over as she
walked by. Today more so than ever. After she got off the bus downtown. She went
to walking the 4 blocks to the library. When a old black man walked out of a
alley. Hey there. Where you headed? (shyly and quietly) Oh, hi. I'm going to
have lunch with my dad. Kelly walked a little faster. She didn't notice that the
old black man was following her. Kelly went into the library and looked over a
couple of books untill it was time to go to the movie. She looked up. Over a few
tables was the old black man. Since she had noticed men looking her way. Kelly
was starting to become a tease. So, she walked his way to put the books away.
She knew he wouldn't do anything in public place. When she was in front of him.
She dropped the books. Bending over to pick them up. (without bending her knees)
Her tank top layed so the old black man could get a good look at her white
breasts. The old black man's mouth dropped open. Oh! Excuse me. (acting as it
was an acident)
Kelly headed to the movie. Which was a couple of blocks away. She loved the
reaction she had got from the old man. The movie Kelly wanted to see was sold
out. She wanted to see a movie. So, she got a ticket to another. Then she saw
that another was starting and it was rated R and nobody was around. She went on
in. Hardly anybody was there. Kelly sat towards the back . The movie started.
When a nude scene started someone came and sat by her. She didn't even pay any
mind. She in awe of what was on the screen. This was her first R movie. There on
the screen was a black slave climbing on top of his master's white wife to have
sex. Kelly liked the sight of the slave's black skin on the white woman's body.
Kelly didn't even realize the person beside her had placed their hand onto her
knee.
But, when he moved his huge hand upto her thigh. Kelly regained her awareness.
She turned. It was the old black man. She tried to push his hand away. He just
leaned over and kissed her neck. He kissed his way down to the tops of her white
breasts. As he moved his hand upto her shorts. He kissed the tops of her breasts
as he rubbed her crotch. He then unbuttoned and unzipped her shorts. Even though
she liked the sight of his black face to her white chest area. She knew she had
to do something before he got any further. She thought to herself (that she
shouldn't have teased this old man) As the old black man started pulling at the
young white girl's shorts. Stop. Or I'll scream. At this time an usher was
making his rounds. Kelly got up to leave. The usher stopped her. your not old
enough to see this movie. I know. I came into the wrong movie by acident. Kelly
left and went home.
It had been several weeks since the incident with the old black man. School had
started. Pro football season had started the week before, and Kelly's school was
going to have their first game tomorrow morning. Today they were having a pep
rally at the end of the school day. Kelly stopped over Stacy's house for awhile.
It was about 6:00p.m. Kelly hurried home to help set up things for her dad's
party. Every month her dad and some of his friends would get together and have a
few drinks and discuss sports. This was her dad's turn to have it at his house.
When she got home. Her dad told Kelly that her mother had went out with aunt Mae
and that she'd be out late. Kelly helped her dad set things up. Most of the guys
were there. Kelly fixed herself something to eat and took it to her room. She
turned on the stereo as she ate.
It was about 8:15 now and Kelly decided she'd take swim as it was unseasonabley
warm tonight. Kelly danced around to the music as she got her bikini out.
Without thinking she took her top and bra off. She was in front of the window
and hadn't pulled the blinds down. She looked outside and noticed Mr. Turner
looking up at her. Mr.Turner was retired runningback from the local pro team. He
was black very muscular. He stood about 6 feet tall and weighed around 235
pounds. Kelly was so embarassed. She hurried away from the window and put on her
bikini. She thought about not swimming. But, after a half hour she went on down
to swim. As she tried to sneak by the rec room. Mr. Turner walked out and almost
bumped into her. Oh! Hi. Didn't mean to run you down. Kelly couldn't even speak.
By the way. I didn't mean to stare earlier. It isn't everyday you see such
beauty. That's ok. (very quietly) As she went onto swim.
Kelly swam and relaxed poolside for a couple hours. She went on upto the
bathroom and took a shower. Dried herself. Then, slipped on a robe. She went
across the hall to her bedroom. As Kelly entered her room she looked to see who
was coming up the stairs. It was Mr. Turner. May I use the restroom. Sure. Kelly
pushed at the door. The door sounded like it closed. But, it came open slightly.
Kelly saw Mr. Hicks looking through his upstairs window towards her. He must be
around 73 years old. Kelly turned on the radio and started dancing. Her robe
came open. Mr. Hicks just stared as she danced. Kelly turned off the overhead
light after turning a lamp on. She thought to her self. She'd realy give
Mr.Hicks a surprise. She slipped her robe off. Exposing her totaly naked body to
him. After all he was in his house and to old to do anything. She danced around
for a few more seconds. Then she layed down on her bed. Mr.Hicks still had view
of her. Kelly was turning into a real tease and was liking it. She rolled over
onto her belly, so that Mr.Hicks would get a good look at her butt.
She heard the bathroom door open. She glanced at a mirror across the room, and
noticed her door was open slightly. She thought about getting up and closing it.
But it was to late. Mr.Turner was in the hallway next to her doorway. Kelly
acted to be asleep. After a few seconds she heard the door close. Kelly figured
that he pulled the door closed. But, when she heard some movement. She became
terrified. She kept her eyes shut as if she was sleeping. She then felt
Mr.Turner run his hand up the back of her white thigh. Kelly trembled as he
caressed her young white buns. She instantly felt herself getting wet inside.
Mr.Turner kissed her white butt. Kelly liked this but knew it was wrong. She
turned over onto her back. Don't!
Then she saw him. Totaly naked huge black man. Huge biceps, a very muscular
chest, ripple tummy. Kelly let out a quiet gasp as she noticed his huge erect
penis. It must be 11inches long and realy fat. She couldn't get her eyes off of
his huge black monstercock. Mr.Turner walked upto her face. Suck on it. No! as
she thought ( that would be gross) He rubbed his black cock across her lips a
couple times. He then went to the foot of the bed and knelt down. He kissed the
young white girl's thighs working his way up. Don't! Stop! I'll scream. As
squeezed her legs together. He kissed her blonde pubic hair, then lower belly.
Kelly became speachless as he kissed white belly and licked at her bellybutton.
Mr.Turner wasn't going to take a no for an answer at this point. He kissed his
way to her teenage white breasts. He kissed and sucked at her nipples at the
same time ran his hand to her young pussy.
Kelly let out a moan, as he inserted his finger inside her. She tried to push
him away. Even though she was enjoying what he was doing. Kelly knew this was
bad and besides he would most likely rip her in half. Mr.Turner rubbed at her
teenage pussy for moment to lubricate the outside of her pussylips. Mr.Turner
climbed onto the bed to mount her little white body. Kelly held her legs
together. Please don't It will hurt me. It only will hurt for a moment. Ohhh! As
Mr.Turner rubbed his huge black cock up and down her little pussy. He pushed
forward. No penetration. He gave big shove forward. Still no penetration of the
little white girl's pussy. He pushed again and finaly managed to get his
cockhead inside her. Kelly tightened up. He pushed a little deeper. She felt his
huge black cock press against her hyman. She knew that one more push would pop
her cherry. Just as he drew back. A knock at the door. Kelly! Kelly! Are you
awake. As the door opened. Mr.Turner jumped off the side of the bed.
Hi dear. Mmmom! Yes. Are you ok? ya. Dad, said you'd be late. The movie was sold
out. So, I came home early. Are you sure? That you are ok. Yes. Just tired. I've
told you to pull the blinds down. You are old enough now that guys will love to
see you dress and undress. You sure seem nervouse. Is there anything wrong? No
mom! Well, you look flush and sweaty. I'll get the thermetor. No. That's ok. I'm
alright. Ok. Call for me if you need me. Goodnight. Goodnight mom. Kelly was
trembleing. Mr.Turner jumped up and dressed and quietly went back downstairs
where there were still a few men gathered having their last drink. Kelly finaly
fell asleep a couple hours later. But, within another hour she woke up from a
bad dream. Her mother rushed in and comforted her. Kelly couldn't tell her
mother that she dreamed about being raped by twelve black men.
After this Kelly quit teasing men for a couple weeks. She started slowly once
more. She would mostly like old black men. She would go without a bra and leave
a button undone then lean over in front of them. During the holiday vacation.
When her parents were at work. Kelly even went totaly naked. Except a long
winter coat. She rode the public bus all the way downtown. She aboat croaked
when an old black man sat beside her. They talked awhile. He was headed to work.
He was going to retire in the spring, after 40 years of service. When he looked
the other way. Kelly undid the top button of her coat. Which exposed just a
little of the tops of her white breasts. Your a very pretty young lady. You need
to be careful. Someone may try to have their way with you. I can take care of
myself. Here's my stop. Take care.
Kelly felt ashamed. She stopped such things. Untill the last day of school. She
had worn her white blouse and plaid skirt.(the catholic school girl look) She
decided to walk home since it was very nice day out and school let out early.
She was walking through the park. She was nearing the walk bridge across the
creek. She heard some voices coming from under the car bridge nearby. There were
three black hobos. There was nobody else in sight. They were washing theirselves
in the creek. She starred at them. They only had their pants on. But, she liked
the sight o their black chests. Kelly also knew that they would most likely see
her cross the walkway. She was realy excited. After a moment she slipped her bra
then pantys off and put them in her backpack. This excited her. Even though they
were to far away to notice. She only had two blocks to go to get home from the
park. When she walked across the walkway. The men whistled and yelled to her.
They were close enough to see that she was a pretty girl. Kelly liked this but
ignored them. But, then she noticed they were following her. She picked up her
pace. A short distance from the street. They caught her. One of the black hobos
grabbed her. Turned her around. Man! We're goin to have a good time today. As he
saw her quarter sized pink nipples poking through her blouse. Then a cop drove
by. Then backed up. The men ran off. Mam! Were they bothering you? As the cop
walked upto her. No sir. He was a tall black man in his fortys. He took a double
take when he noticed her pirky breasts through her blouse. You need to watch how
you dress. Your asking for trouble.
That night she dreamed of Mr.Turner fucking her. She woke up in a sweat. She was
showering when her parents yelled in at her. Honey! We're headed to work early.
Kelly wondered more and more what it would feel like to be fucked by a black
man. Mr.Turner was very gentle with her. She couldn't believe how close she came
to being fucked. Kelly thought to herself-(I know it's wrong. But, I'm going to
find out today) She put on her bikini pantys then bra and her summer sundress.
After slipping on shoes she went downtown on the bus. Remembering the first
experience with an old black man. She walked towards the alley where she first
saw him. It was almost 10:00a.m. Ahead was a tall old black man. It might even
be the same man. Kelly acted as if she didn't notice him. She walked as if going
to the library. Hey baby! Don't you say hi to your friends? So, she knew he was
the same man and he remembered her. Oh. Hi. (acting not to be interested) Hey!
You want a puppy. (Knowing this was a ploy) (Even though she was scared-she was
going through with her plan) Sure! Where is it? Down here. In a box. Directing
her to the alley. Kelly nervousely followed. I sleep here and this puppy came
upto me and had no tags. A third of the way through the alley. There were stacks
of large cardboard boxes with blankets on them. There were five other old black
men laying on their blankets. Untill they seen her. Kelly started to leave. Not
soon enough. They surrounded her.
Don't I'll scream! One of the black men pulled out a knife. No you won't.
Unless! Kelly stood there while the black men fondled her. Two of them fondled
her breasts and two others played with her firm butt. One watched the street as
one of the black men unzipped her sundress and slipped the straps off of her
shoulders. Her dress fell to her ankles. Please! Don't hurt me. The man with the
knife walked upto her. Not saying a word. Cut the right strap of her bra. With
the other black men laughing he cut the left strap. Starring into her eyes he
ran the knife across the tops of her breasts. Then suddenly cut her bra in half.
Kelly's bra fell to the ground. Exposing her firm white breasts to the old black
bums. They all got quiet. Starring at the young white girl. The black man put
the knife up. Then with two hands grabbed her pantys and ripped them from her
petite teenage body. Kelly felt herself getting wet. Even though she was
terrified. Here she was a virgin about to be raped by six old black men in an
alley downtown. She didn't even know if they would kill her or not.
Kelly just watched as the man in front of her dropped his pants and undershorts.
He was black as midnight. His cock was hard pointing towards her. It was smaller
than Mr.Turner's. But, Kelly didn't see how it would fit into her. Kelly shaked
like a leaf and tears started to run down her face. The black man's cock pressed
against her belly as he stepped closer. He shoved her down onto a blanket. He
knelt down and pushed her legs apart. She was to scared to fight back. She
looked to the side as he mounted her. She noticed that the other men's dicks
were larger and fatter. He whispered to her I'm the nice one. The others would
just ram it inside you. He rubbed his black cock up and down her blonde pussy 4
or 5 times to slicken her up. He then pushed forward. Without sucess. Then
another, and another. Your one tight chick. One more huge shove forward and
Kelly felt his cockhead push inside her. Then another push and he was touching
her hyman. He pulled back. Then with a smile gave a quick shove forward. Kelly
screamed out in pain as his black dick ripped through her hyman.
The black man took pleasure at the painful look on her face. Your just a spoiled
white brat. As he slammed all 8 inches of his cock into her. Blood ran down her
butt. He squeezed her white tits so hard she thought that they would pop. She
felt his hairy black balls slamming against her white butt. The other black bums
were urging him to hurry. They wanted their turn. The pain subsided after a
couple minutes or so and Kelly was starting to enjoy the fucking she was
getting. She wrapped her legs across the backs of his. Kelly let out moans of
delight as the black man pounded his cock into her white pussy. She was about to
climax when she felt the man cum inside her. With one more lunge forward. He
pulled out of her. Who's next. She's a fine piece.
The next black hobo ordered her to her hands and knees. Like a dog you know.
After penetrating the young white girl from behind another got infront to force
her to suck him. She learned quick how to suck. Kelly first thought it was gross
to have a man's dick inside her mouth. After a couple minutes she even started
enjoying cocksucking. The man behind her fucked her as hard and fast as he
could. Making her buns and tits bounce around. She felt herself building to a
climax again. This time she squeeled in delight as she climaxed and felt the
black man cum inside her pussy. The old black man in front was cumming into her
mouth as the man behind pulled his black cock out and squirted a couple times
across her butt. The two black men quickly stepped away from the petite white
girl. When another layed beside her and directed her on top of him.
Kelly sat on his 12 inch black snake. She let out a gasp in dispair as the last
4 inches went inside her. It was uncomfortable as he fucked her. But, after a
moment it felt good being stretched this far. She figured he must have the
biggest dick in the world. To her surprise one of remaining black men knelt
behind her. He pushed her forward. He guided his 10inch black cock to her white
butt. He gave a hard continued push. Kelly screamed and tears appeared again as
she felt like she was being ripped in half. Without hesitation the black men
fucked her hard and unmerciful. One in her white ass and the other in her blonde
pussy. Even though it hurt after a few minutes of being double fucked. Kelly
yelled out in another orgasm. As the black man inside her butt squirted streams
and streams of cum inside her. Then the last black man traded places with the
man that was buttfucking her.
As he started buttfucking the teenage white girl. He yelled out. Hey! we're a
oreo cookie. Kelly was getting exhausted and was going limp. It felt like she
would pass out. Then she orgasmed again. After she came off of her third orgasm,
the man pumped her white ass full of his black seed. He quickly withdrew from
her as the man under her. Rolled over on top of her. He went to fucking his
black 12 inch pole in and out of her as fast as he could. He sucked on her white
breast. When he started cumming inside her he bit down. Kelly let out a yelp.
This didn't stop her from climaxing again, for the fourth time. The man stood
up. She was exhausted and just layed there. To her amazement they were still
standing around naked. We want you to meet Bubba.
Kelly was amazed when she saw Bubba. He was about 50yrs.old 6ft.6in. tall
220pds. His cock must be around 14 inches long. As he mounted Kelly's little
white body. He told her that he was going to fuck her brains out. It looked like
a black monster mounting a little white doll. He entered her slowly. Even though
she had been reamed out several times. It was slow going for him to get his
black cock into her. After getting 10 inches inside her white pussy. He started
fucking her hard. After a few minutes his huge black balls were smacking against
her white butt cheeks. Kelly orgasmed first. Then she felt him shoot a couple of
squirts of cum inside her pussy. He pulled his huge black cock out of her and
finished cumming all over her flat white belly. After he stepped back. She was
surrounded by the other six black men. They jirked theirselves off all over her.
She was drenched in cum. Her hair and face was covered with cum. Her white
breasts, belly, pubic hair, pussy, and butt was also was covered with cum. She
thought to herself I can't move. She figured that she was about to pass out with
exhaustion.
Kelly just layed there naked and covered with cum. The black men were dressed.
When she saw reflections of flashing lights. The black men had went to the
entrance of the alley. Kelly heard them talking to what seemed like police
officers. She slowly got up and peeked around the corner. It was the police. She
grabbed her sundress. As she walked out the otherside of the alley she slipped
on the dress. Her shoes had fallen off during all the fucking. Her breasts,
pussy, and butt ached from the pounding and stretching. She was drenched in cum
which was starting to dry on her now. No place to clean up. Oops. Excuse me. She
bumped into a lady. Are you ok. Yeh! Sure. Kelly walked three block as everyone
starred at her. Since she was such a mess. People kept asking if she was ok. She
got home on the bus. She threw her sundress in the washer, showered. Redressed
and fell asleep on the coach.
--I like to lick the shitty bits off Cmdr Tacos crusty ass
Sounds like failure.
Seriously, they don't have any large partnerships to move these boxes into the home.
Yeah, hopefully this could become as popular as Neo Geo. Maybe Zap Media should form an alliance with SDK. Perhaps if they shipped it with a power pad to control your mp3s or some other wasteful piece of equipment.
Seriously though, we college kids can barely afford a Playstation 2. Where are we going to get cash for one of these? College kids are going to be the aim demographic for this thing.
Honestly, my financial aid check can't pay for this AND books perhaps reading isn't neccessary.
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Are you a public school graduate? When I add up
all your numbers, plus $250 for the SV24 itself,
I come up with $553. I don't see a case/power supply. You just gonna leave the mobo on top of your TV set for that geek chic look? Finally, what's it gonna set you back to license WMA decoding capabilities from Microsoft? To be fair, Zap's product can do it. If they can and you want this to be a fair comparison, so should yours. Unless, of course, you just want to whinge...
ZapMedia has release complete specs on the ZapStation. I'm biased (I work there) but I think it compares very well to any of the competitors. Read them here
--Michael