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Toshiba Pocket PC e570 Review
msolnik writes: "PocketNow has a review of the new Toshiba Pocket PC e570. With an integrated CompactFlash Type I/II, Secure Digital (SD) slot, a 206Mhz StrongArm, and upto 64MB of ram the Toshiba is going to give the IPAQ a run for its money. Just FYI with some slight modifications the Handhelds.org IPAQ Linux distro should run just fine on the Toshiba."
Another PDA?
Uh, is this only newsworthy, cause the submitted said "it might be able to carry a linux distro"?
In that case, my toilet may carry a linux distro. Is that news?
Must be a slow news day....
I don't see any mention of this on their official site. Anyone have a link to the data sheets?
Geez, expensive, heavy and big. I already have a desktop PC.
I'll stick with my Handspring for now thanks. (Cheap, light, and small.)
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Give me LIBERTY, or give me a check.
I really wish sites stopped using PDFs to present basic data that can be represented just fine using HTML & CSS. Jesus it's irritating having a bulky, often not working, not exiting properly instance of AcroRd32.exe just to look at some god damn specs. STOP USING PDFs FOR BASIC BLOODY INFO!
The e570 is one of the smallest devices on the market; its only bulge appears in its thickness because of the two slots. Both a lightweight and a small guy.
Try again genius. Maybe next time by READING the article, instead of glancing at the pictures and making a lame first post attempt.
The e570s Official Homepage is The e570s Official Homepage. They have features, specs, videos, and accessories on there.
How will quake run on this one?
Hopefully, no more memory issues with now 64 MB RAM
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so quit trying to "keep up". Buy one that suits your needs, and keep it. If there aren't any handhelds that suit your needs, then don't buy one.
~wally
maybe slashdot should mirror the pages, or something as they servers seem to crash>
/home/httpd/pocketnow.com/htdocs/cgi-bin/directory /content.cgi
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That sounds easy enough, huh? Except that the iPaq does not have any intergrated slots (CF or PCMCIA) and I did not realize how much of an issue that would be.
And the iPaq was state of the art. Now most devices have built-in slots.
So, if I upgrade (because that would better suite my needs) then, what will be the next issue?
Don't mistake my observation as complaining, I am not.
STOP USING PDFs FOR BASIC BLOODY INFO!
My guess is that they simply PDF their Word (or whatever dead tree creating document proc'r of choice is) Marketing Spec sheet.
What is needed is something akin to Distiller / PDFPrint that prints both the bare HTML along with the style sheet. Anyone know of such a beast?
Face it, it's far easier to break MS' monopoly if you have several players. If Microsoft becomes so powerful that it controls everyone else except for a few geeks who are happy that they can run Linux on their new toys, we have lost.
One of the smallest pocketPC devices, not even close when compared to Palm devices. Do some research dude.
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Give me LIBERTY, or give me a check.
What do you want with a computer with a tiny display and low performance ?
Keeping adresses etc. ?
Science has a better answer for this and it's called notebook (the paper ones).
Playing games ?
With this display you really can't go any further then gameboy style one. I don't see anyone using them for Quake or DOOM.
I suppose these thing have the same right to exist like nosehair cutters, electrical earwax removers etc.
Owner of a Mensa membership card.
I never pay attention to the pictures next to the headlines, except when it has to do with a new palmtop device. Then I always look at the picture and momentarily think to myself "What the hell? That looks just like a palm III."
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball(TM)
What i'd really like is an NTSC video out on one of these buggers, 'cause that'd make it a perfect wearable (not to mention a really cool portable on-the-spot presentation machine. Just imagine, plug into the projector and run, no hassle).
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Q: Is it just me, or is every (non-Palm) PDA on the market sporting these specs?
A: Well you see John Spartan, after the great PDA wars of the early 21st century, there was only one chip manufacturer left. The market is much happier this way.
Q: Hey, couldn't one of these vendors at least ship with Linux preinstalled? (Never mind the new Sharp SL5000)
A: Oh no John Spartan! Using Linux means that you must be able to think, and thinking bad. Hence Linux is illegal.
Q: Um, what are these 3 csh's for?
P.S.: I would've sworn that the new PocketPC OS would've driven everyone to a faster CPU. Is MS breaking their new OS == hardware upgrade pattern?
What does it get me that a plain ole CF card would not give me?
I'm assuming you purchased the iPaw 37xx series, which was the bargain-priced PocketPC 2002 iPaq precisely because it lacked the expansion capabilities that all other PocketPC 2002 devices have.
If you need a journaling filesystem on your handheld, you have problems.
I have had WinCE devices and Palm Devices since basically 1.0 days, and NONE have ever had "corrupted flash memory cards" unless i stuck the thing through a high powered xray machine on one of my hundreds of flights i have taken.
"Considerably more responsive with linux on it"..
Strange, i can watch movies, play mp3's, play doom, and tons of other things on my Compaq running CE 3.0 (as well as surf the net, check email, view appointments, view docs, record memos and voice notes) and my unit "seems considerably more responsive" then i have ever seen linux run on these.
oh well, to each there own.
A link or some kind of evidence for these points would be nice. Why wasn't GGI working properly? How is power management quirky?
It is highly irresponsible of moderators to have this at +5, and having some poor slashdolt taking this post at "Walter"'s word.
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It looks like ARM has all but sewn up the PDA market, just like x86 became the defacto standard for PC's. Will the market stagnate now? Where is the competition? Everyone has (or plans to have) a 206MHz StrongARM in their PDA. Wouldn't it be nice if someone else came along with something a bit better now and made things interesting?
I'm out of my tree just now but please feel free to leave a banana.
No, I actually own a 3650. Yes, I own an expansion sleave (an option that sucks since it doubles the thickness and adds weight).
Again, I did not realize that have a CF card for data backup was a requirment, else I wouuld have waited.
Actually, there's a filesystem designed for this very application. It's called JFFS, or Journaling Flash Filesystem. The original development for the filesystem was done by Axis Communications, but it has since migrated to the kernel proper under the term JFFS2. You can probably follow discussions regarding this filesystem and the kernel API at the Memory Technology Devices site. Check out the mailing list archives and/or subscribe to linux-mtd from the aforementioned site.
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Apparently, the device doesn't recognize diagonals on the game pad. This makes it almost completely useless as a gaming device.
This issue seems even more annoying than the button problems on the iPaq, but hopefully Toshiba can fix with a software patch, or at least in future hardware revisions
"And the iPaq was state of the art. Now most devices have built-in slots."
How funny that we would consider the inclusion of CF/PCMCIA slot(s) "state of the art" in the year 2001. I remember my first WindowsCE device (HP300 LX I think) --- it had CF and PCMCIA over 4 years ago (not to mention that PCMCIA slot in my HP200LX in the mid 90's), and now we think that the inclussion of CF/PCMCIA in an IpaQ type device is state of the art....More evidence to suggest that the companies building the tech stuff have no clue what would make their devices a "killer MUST HAVE device..."
P.S. -- I am having a hard time getting used to the Palm I have nowadays....The lack of a keyboard or a PCMCIA slot is a hard pill to swallow....(I am not talking about those wierd fold up keyboards that are bigger than the PALM itself....)
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
What do you wear, cargo pants?
I wear jeans all the time, and a Palm V with a hard case fits really well in my pocket along with a set of keys. The case is scratched beyond belief, but the Palm V is fine - anything larger would not work. I know that for sure as I used to have an older Palm Pilot (one of the first ones), and you really couldn't carry it in your pocket. The old Palm was just a novelty, the Palm V I use every day.
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