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Nintendo Declares GCN Most Popular Console Ever

PhReaKyDMoNKeY writes "According to IGNCube, Nintendo has declared GCN the fastest selling console ever. Additionally, Nintendo claims that Luigi's Mansion is the most popular launch title in history as well. I couldn't seem to find the actual press release, but here's a related news story from Nintendo's site. I don't know how valid the claim is, since it's in their best interest to exaggerate, clearly, but it seems like the console demand in general is pretty high. " Now mind you every store in town seems to have plenty of Gamecubes in stock, but if you want an X-Box, you have to kill for it. Fortunately most people in a video game store are like 12, so I can destroy them with my mind bullets.

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  1. sigh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    two first posts in one day.

    What is slashdot coming to?

  2. What? by worth · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Oh yeah, Mr. Taco? I can destroy you with my mind bullets as well!

  3. 3rd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    post

  4. Killing for an X-Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I killed for an X-Box. I didn't really want one... I just wanted to kill.

    I thought they were talking about a different kind of "box" though.

    1. Re:Killing for an X-Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      if by x you refer to malcom x, i.e. - niggers, and by box you refer to pussy, then you don't need to kill for it (although it's not a crime!), you just need $2 worth of crack.

    2. Re:Killing for an X-Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You new or something? Idiot.

  5. Re:I dunno about the gross weight, but... by Phork · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    hey xav, irc over to thisside.net #2600 sometime.

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    -- free as in swatantryam - not soujanyam.
  6. Yeah right ! [nt] by SirLestat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How comes we can't post [nt] messages?

  7. Re:Faggots of Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And Hemos doesn't mind, if he doesn't get pussy
    He's got a full time boyfriend, he's doing all right
    He can suck a cock just like anything
    Saving it up for Friday night
    With the faggots,
    With the faggots of Slashdot
    [hey]

    LOL! great job! i really like dire straights, and this was a fun read.

  8. i couldn't get first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    because i am not 1337 enough, but if i had gotten first, i would have said "fp r0xx0rs my b0xx0rs"

  9. Mod parent up! Subject misleading... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Mod parent up! Subject is misleading, content is very ineteresting and relevant. Thanks.

  10. mind bullets by bradley4681 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    all your mind bullets are belong to me...

  11. Re:Faggots of Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hemos, he wears chinos, around his ankles.
    while taco licks his asshole, and his cock grows.
    Rob Limo, bends over Hemos, inserts his dildoes.

  12. Re:X-box isn't hard to find here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    your mom's cherry is impossible to find. Of course, no one want's to find it, either.

  13. hoho taco you are discovered! by vena · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    hah! you are found out, mister taco man! you thought we would find your mind bullets funny, BUT WE KNOW YOU ARE NOT FUNNY! IT IS TENACIOUS D WHO IS THE FUNNY MAN!

    you bastard :P

  14. In other news... by NoSoup4You · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Al Gore declares self inventor of the internet.

  15. seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    if you're serious, holy shit

    1. Re:seriously? by brokeninside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Serious as a heart attack.

      About 2:30 or 3:00 EST, my direct manager came up to me in my cube and whispered that a senior VP of the company I work for requested that he immediately escort me to the fourteenth floor (the fourteenth floor is the HR florr) of our building. He had no idea of what this was about.

      Upon entering the conference room I was greeted by two secret service special agents who then proceded to interview me regarding what was going through my mind when I wrote said comment. The interview concluded with a ride in a SS issue sedan to my residence and a guided tour of my house for the special agents.

      Fortunately, the special agents seemed to have been rather unimpressed with my abode.

      Regards,

      -Lee

    2. Re:seriously? by crayz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      so do you know how they found out about who you are? also, did they have a warrant for a search, and if not, why did you let them?

      BTW, ever read the Old Man Murray story about SS agents? funny stuff

    3. Re:seriously? by SectoidRandom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Perhaps he allowed them to search without a warrent so that he wouldnt be imprisoned as a _potential terrorist_ or as your "free-loving" govt calls them "visa violators". I hope a lot of you americans are starting see/hear what the media is saying about your thousands of people detained without charge or apparently even without family contact in many cases. Of course im talking about any media company NOT from the US. Ie NOT CNN / NBC, etc. It appears freedom of press is still taboo over there. :(

    4. Re:seriously? by SectoidRandom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Oops, clicked submit accidently too early, it wasnt meant to be flamebait. :)

      But come to think of it i cant remember my end comment, hmm damn beer. :) (Whoa, re-reading that, yep ive had a few too many, please dis-regard all flame-inciting parts, thanks)

    5. Re:seriously? by brokeninside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      so do you know how they found out about who you are?
      My best guess (aside from using my real name as my login at kuro5hin) is that I was on file because of a Church I used to attend. For some reason the information the FBI forwarded to the Secret Service was entirely from the period of time in which I attended that Church.
      did they have a warrant for a search, and if not, why did you let them?
      They had no warrant, but the easiest and quickest way to get them off my back was to fully cooperate. I have nothing to hide and while I could have stuck up for my rights on principle, I don't particularly feel like drawing more interest of the Secret Service to myself than necessary.

      I don't have time to get a lawyer and get all uppity.

      Regards,

      Lee

    6. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      so do you know how they found out about who you are?

      Well, your address is available within 3 clicks of your comment (your resume on your headhunter page) so I wouldn't think it would be too hard to find you, even if that's not a current address.


      I have no intention of contacting you and it only took me 30 seconds to find it

    7. Re:seriously? by Fenresulven · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      When they introduced themselves as SS agents you should have cried out: "I had nothing to do with the sale of nuclear weapons to Osama Bin Laden! Nothing!!! I swear!!!"

    8. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Based on his stipulatedrequirements for a job, I don't think many headhunters are going to have any intentions of contacting him either.

      Sys admin position? 28 work week? Work at home? No pager? BWAHAHAHAHA, thazza a good one!

    9. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Ever stop to think that maybe some Americans don't care how long they imprison potential terrorists. I personally don't think that non American citizens should have the rights given to us in our Constitution. Even those newly immigrated don't understand that reponsibility. I have a friend born in Hong Kong that didn't believe me that the if they draft you, you have to go. He said he would just leave the country. That is because he has no attachment or loyalty to this country. Both sides of my family have been here so many generations I can't even trace them back to the first relatives to come here, and they fought in just about every war we've had. So do you really think I care that they detain someone who probably doesn't care about this country? No...

    10. Re:seriously? by e-Motion · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Upon entering the conference room I was greeted by two secret service special agents who then proceded to interview me regarding what was going through my mind when I wrote said comment. The interview concluded with a ride in a SS issue sedan to my residence and a guided tour of my house for the special agents.

      Well, you _were_ discussing killing the VP. While I can understand that, in context, it's not as bad as it first seems, the agents were definitely doing the right thing.

      Suppose you were participating in a conversation going on in a public place with some random individuals, which happened to be about murder. Perhaps it concerned horrific murders, and somehow drifted to a hypothetical situation where someone might want to kill you. You eventually agree that there might be a reason that someone would want to kill you.

      Now, think about how you'd react if some random guy you'd never met before just walked up and said:

      "You know, if I were going to kill you, I'd probably sneak up behind you, kinda like this. Then, I'd take my gun..." (holds out his hand like a gun) "...and pistol whip you to knock you out." (acts like he's striking you) "Then, I'd bend over you and...BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!...you know?"

      He then smiles, winks, and walks away.

      I think that would be pretty unsettling.

      I also think that, with the way things are currently going in the US, talks about killing officials, even hypothetically, need to be investigated. Granted, my analogy was exaggerated, but one should consider the current tension in the US before dismissing the situation proposed as completely different and misleading.

      And, to be fair, I didn't hear any mention of harm done to you, as some slashdotters seemed to imply. Perhaps you were inconvenienced, but, considering the situation, that's to be expected.

    11. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      The SS probably wouldn't get the joke. It's like joking about bombs with airport security. Not a good idea.

    12. Re:seriously? by Killer+Napkin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well, that certainly is elitist shit. No one really cares about your family lineage or how many wars your ancestors may have been involved with. It really doesn't make any difference. Did you personally fight in the Revolutionary War? Did you participate in the Civil War? No you didn't, so shut up.

      I'm tired of hearing all this ethnocentric crap from people who think they're the only "Real Americans." As far as I know, you don't need to prove your loyalty to any nation in order to be considered a human being . The whole point of the American ideology is that every person -- regardless of gender, age, race, height, width, national origin, or sexual orientation -- should be afforded the same basic respect and decency. It's what Americans continue to fight for evry day. It's what you claim that your family has fought so hard to protect and what you now claim to be reserved for an "elite class." Your attitudes only serve to bring shame to those Americans who still hold freedom as a a fundamental part of humanity.

    13. Re:seriously? by Cheese+Metal+Rulez!! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "American ideology"?

      Surely an 'ideal' that you do not work toward in any way and in fact violate constantly safe in the knowledge that at least your ideals are okay is worth less than nothing.

      Perhaps you were mistakenly talking about Canada.

    14. Re:seriously? by ChadN · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You might want to start using the Freedom of Information Act (Thank you, Ralph Nader) to check your FBI file (among others) in future months and/or years. This may be ended, for now, but good luck if you ever need (even low level) security clearance...

      --
      "It's overkill, of course. But you can never have too much overkill." - Anonymous Slashdot Coward
    15. Re:seriously? by The+Step+Child · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      (insert Neo/Matrix joke here)

    16. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Man, sorry about that whole situation. That sucks. I find the method of disturbing you at work highly suspect. But it is their stupidity which really boggles the mind. American tax dollars hard at work.

    17. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What a load of crap. I am an American. But I would never go to war if I were drafted. That's plain stupid. Being proud and loyal to my country has nothing to do with it.

    18. Re:seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What a load of crap. Your argument is based on a situation nothing like the events of Lee's case.

  16. Re:Mind Bullets? by danslemur · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "You know what time it is? Tenacious D time, you motherfucker go! Fuck Yeah!"

  17. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Fnkmaster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Weird. I understand that your comment would be, well, questionable in isolation, but it appears in a thread on a Smallpox attack scenario (unfortunately I can't get at the original post right now since k5 is dead as a doornail but I follwed your link to the page on which your comment is found). There's no way I can see it could be construed as a direct threat, it was pretty obviously a comment on a hypothetical scenario posted by somebody else on k5. Nevertheless, infecting vice presidents with viruses is probably not a good topic for idle chat right now on the internet, as the Secret Service (ever notice that abbreviates to SS?) are watching. Remember Steve Jackson Games (actually, I barely do, but I remember the Secret Service stole lots of computers over some really silly nonsensical shit - I was, what, 13 or 14 years old at the time)? These aren't nice people.

  18. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by EchoMirage · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow, you're pretty much a complete and total idiot for posting that.

    Sure sure, freedom of speech, hypothetical scenario, and all that aside, what the hell did you think was going to happen? You can't yell fire in a movie theatre, you can't joke about having a bomb on a plane, and you can't talk, even in the hypothetical, about killing leaders of our country.

    The mere fact that you seem suprised is evidence enough to me of your idiocy.

  19. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by psychalgia · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    you know, even before all this went down it was illegal to make threats against the P or VP...the fact that you're essentially loading the gun for some idiot should make them suspicious -- i hope you werent _TOO_ surprised when they showed up for your cavity search.

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  20. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by SnatMandu · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    While it might seem suprising, that's not exactly yelling fire in a theatre.

    I'm not even sure where the "you can't talk, even hypothetically, about assinating our leaders" thing ever came from.

    All of a sudden it's illegal to use the words "kill" and "president" in the same day, let alone sentence.

    The SS is rightfully paranoid, that's what they're paid to be, but sometimes it's like "can't you read?!"

  21. Re:Uh Oh CmdrTaco by IainHere · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Does the fact that everyone else there was 12 not tell you something about your life? Go on, mod me down. This should provide adequate sustenance for the Dr Who marathon.

  22. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by brokeninside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    the fact that you're essentially loading the gun for some idiot should make them suspicious
    Apparently you didn't read my comment that grabbed their interest very well. It consisted of (1) I can think of too ways to do this and (2) here is why they probably won't work.

    No gun loading involved.

    Regards,

    Lee

  23. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Surak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow. Basically it's illegal to threaten the POTUS, his successors, yadayada... Conspiring to kill them is also illegal.

    It's certainly not a threat: A threat would be "Hey, Mr. Vice President, I'm going to kill you with smallpox." or even simply "I'm going to kill the VP with smallpox." (DISCLAIMER: I am not, will not, and have never considered nor do I condone the killing of the President or the Vice President or really any higher form of life than a cockroach.)

  24. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by alcmena · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ... or really any higher form of life than a cockroach.

    Wait, I thought you said you didn't condone killing the P or VP. :)

  25. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by imadork · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Just for the record I was interviewed by two secret service agents today over a comment I made on another internet forum [kuro5hin.org]

    what suprises me the most about this is not that the secret service is reading Kuro5hin, but that they're taking what they read there seriously....

    If they really think they're getting good leads from there, perhaps they could donate a new server to Rusty to bring it back up!

  26. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by tarmo · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Actually, the secret service is pretty well informed. And so are the people they're trying to track, as well. Since it's obvious the Internet is monitored, criminals use different codes to hide their messages into innocent looking postings, digitally imprinted into images and so forth. Probably some deep underground super computer just crawled through the web with a fuzzy algorithm and decided that post to be suspect and activated two agent drones to check out the guy and the building.

    Well, as many already said - watch out what words you combine into a phrase, or even a message.

  27. Re:Why you can still get them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "What do you mean you have to kill for them?"

    You just havent seen what the target employees make you do when you get there. :)

  28. I could kill a yak... by Tim+Giesecke · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...with mind bullets.

  29. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by lizrd · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    ... or really any higher form of life than a cockroach.

    Wait, I thought you said you didn't condone killing the P or VP. :)

    While neigther the P nor the VP are extremely tall men, they are each significantly taller than a cockroach. In this sense they are higher froms of life than a cockroach.
    --
    I don't want free as in beer. I just want free beer.
  30. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Obviously the SS didn't think it was illegal, or you would be in prison right now, not posting on Slashdot.

  31. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by keytoe · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Let's turn 'em into a glass parking lot!!!

    That was funny - and your sig makes it funnier!

  32. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Cyberllama · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hows this any different than a Tom Clancy novel wherein the same sort of scenario may take place? He's certainly not advocating anything with his post, he's speaking entirely within context, and it's not as if he's giving away national security secrets to terrorists. I've heard Rush Limbaugh say much more "threatening" things during the Clinton years. Clearly the only way they can get away with this kind of BS is because of the current national climate (a.k.a. scared out of our collective asses of anything that moves).

    Do we really want a government that can trample our rights anytime they want to in the name of National Security? Where anyone who makes an off-color remark could be considered a terrorist? Benjamin Franklin once said that those who exchange liberty for security deserve neither.

  33. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by cje · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow, you're pretty much a complete and total idiot for posting that.

    I couldn't disagree more. One of the biggest problems leading up to the 9/11 attacks was failure of the imagination. Nobody had really toyed with the scenario of passenger airliners being used as missiles. Nobody had really stopped to consider that extremists could be that insane. As a result, nobody was prepared for the events of that day, and the toll (in terms of human life and monetary damages) was catastrophic.

    So here we've got some people mulling over potential terrorist attacks involving biological agents. When you play these scenarios out, you have to consider the worst case, and it just so happens that the worst case would include the targeting of our nation's leaders. It isn't pleasant to think about, but if the events of 9/11 showed us anything, it's that we have to start thinking about this stuff. In short, the Secret Service cracked down on this poster because he was doing exactly the thing that the government should have been doing before 9/11. (If they had, perhaps the attacks wouldn't have happened.)

    So now, even after the horrific events of September, the apparent stance of the Secret Service is that people should not be speculating on these types of things. If that is their policy, and if they are willing to stand behind it, then fine. But if something like 9/11 happens again, and if it's something that could have been prevented if we had engaged in exercises like the one in the Kuro5hin article, then the blood of the innocent will be on their hands.

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    We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
  34. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by arkanes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'd like to confirm that it absolutely is NOT illegal to talk about killing our leaders. It's illegal to actively advocate it("Go kill George Bush!"), or to actually send threats, as you mentioned, but talking about it is 100% protected ("Someone should kill that fuck George Bush!"). It's not even illegal to send "sort of" threats. ("I hope someone kills you, George Bush!"). However, any of these things most certainly can get you investigated, as the SS does take it's job very seriously.

  35. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    How about a (-1 dumbass) moderation in addition to the completely offtopic nature of this post. (How it got +5 before an offtopic mod is beyond me)


    If you really had such an encounter with the secret service, why not submit it to /. instead of posting it in a forum about the gamecube.


    jackass.

  36. Thanks by brokeninside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    That's pretty much what I told the special agents yesterday. Only not quite so eloquently. My point was that the best defense in a democracy is a well informed citizenry. My supporting point was that if the people aboard the planes that were hijacked were more informed about the potential for mass destruction fewer of the highjackers would have ever reached the pilots and if they did, it is far less likely that the planes would have reached their targets, like happened in Pennsylvania when the passengers figured out what was going on.

    But you put it much more eloquently.

  37. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by spyderbyte23 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I've heard Rush Limbaugh say much more "threatening" things during the Clinton years.
    Well, recall Jesse Helms -- damn his twisted, evil heart -- stating that if Clinton came to North Carolina, "he'd better bring a bodyguard." I believe he was warned by the Secret Service in some way to watch it. (It was a few years ago, and I can't find good cites for it on Google.) So there is a history for the SS taking non-threat threats seriously, regardless of the source. This is all getting pretty seriously OT, of course...
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  38. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Decimal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    All of a sudden it's illegal to use the words "kill" and "president" in the same day, let alone sentence.

    Hello Citizen,

    Please remain where you are. Secret service agents are currently enroute to your residence. Do not be alarmed. We just wish to have a little chat. Brew a fresh pot of coffee and wait for us on the floor, face down, hands behind your back.

    Thank you.

    --

    Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
  39. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Cheese+Metal+Rulez!! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can.

    But then I'm not trapped in "The Land Of The Free".

  40. Re:"Real Americans" by ahde · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    He was talking about "non-Americans" not everyone visiting America or illegally enterying America is an American. If you went to visit Rome would you become an Italian? If after visiting the Sistine chapel you drive north and then hiked across the Alps would you then become Swiss? Even if you intended to live there? Even if you broke halting French or Italian or German?

    A Saudi or Chinese student who goes to college at one of our state universities isn't an American and probably doesn't consider himself so. A migrant worker from Mexico isn't an American either, whether he receives welfare or not.

    Under what circumstances such people should be allowed to become Americans if they so choose is irrelevant.

  41. Be Thankful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Thank our Lord Jesus Christ that the guilty do not know the sinful shelter of this wretched world. You should stay far, far away from godless sinners like the Center for Consitutional Rights who may try to tempt you to the path of sin.

  42. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Brand+X · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    &lthyperbole&gt

    "Sure thing, I've got this great vanilla almond blend, I'll brew up a pot. See you in a few!"

    I have no such thing. I'm a culinary snob, a gourmet, not a gourmand. Only high quality coffees. Kona, Turkish, or French Roast. No flavored. But I might have some cheap "Kona Blend" from a care package a friend gave me when visiting from Hawai'i.

    "I hope you like vanilla almond, it's all I have..."

    There's real vanilla beans on my spice shelf. Madagascar or Tahiti... but there's probably some basic alcohol based pure vanilla extract in there as well, and it's a lot cheaper. There's almonds, and possibly almond extract, as well, but I'd never use that in coffee.

    "Hold on a second, the coffee mugs are in my workshop..."

    Well, this one might be true. Some of the coffee mugs, perhaps. Probably not next to the forge and steelworking gear. Certainly not in the steel hardening kit, in the little chemical vials full of interesting salt solutions...

    "OK, got the mugs, how soon should I expect you?"

    I've got a time release hypodermic kit in a cabinet, next to the first aid gear.

    "Oh, good, looks like there's fresh cream in the fridge."

    And little bags with Vitamin B-12ain saline solution 7.5g doses

    All of which substances could be used for some nefarious purposes the nature of which I'll leave to the reader...
    hint: one of the great steel hardening chemicals is also used to extract gold from ore... and might be convinced to disguise itself as flavoring in coffee, if mixed in solution and not overheated too much.
    hyperbole

    Now that the overly complex humor is over, time for the lecture.

    This group is overrun with conspiracy theorists. It's easy to understand why... software is one of those cutting edge technologies that the majority of people don't understand, and that has a lot of misconceptions associated with it, and a lot of money. That means a lot of manipulative lobbying, deception, suppression of peoples' rights, so on and so forth. Beyond that, we've got a questionable election in America a year ago, a would be despot as president, a could be despot as VP (certainly, the sudden push for unreasonable executive power even before September leads one to reflect on this...), and some rather covert wings of federal security agencies that don't seem to have much in the way of scruples, ethics, or even manners. Certainly, there's a high probability of serious despotic behavior, meriting the kind of reaction I just hinted at, from certain federal agencies. But the Secret Service is not one of them! Seriously. In spite of their name, in spite of the way they shove their noses into places with pigheaded cluelessness from time to time. These people are the most single minded agency I can think of, the least political. They are the bodyguards, the detectives, the security force for the federal government...

    These aren't the droids you need to be afraid of.

    Hell, I'd be a lot more alarmed if the police showed up at my door than a couple of Secret Service agents. Of course, I do live in LA.

    Mind you, the above post was funny... but I hope the poster didn't mean it seriously. I mean, if it were non local CIA agents with suspiciously unmemorable names, or NSA operatives, or personal agents of his imperial majesty George W. Bush (once he finishes disbanding the legislative branch and gets rid of the remaining four independant Supreme Court judges) or Lord Vader, sure, I'd be making sure the automated defense systems were online and ready for mayhem (in case you haven't noticed, the hyperbole light has come back on. Please return to your seats and remain seated, with your seatbelts fastened, until we come to a complete stop), but the situation described sounds like a bunch of slightly spooked (wouldn't you be) agents making sure every base is covered, even if they have to put people in the bleachers and locker rooms.

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    -- Still waiting for the Nike endorsement
  43. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You just talked about it...idiot!

  44. Re:"Real Americans" by Rogerborg · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    • He was talking about "non-Americans" not everyone visiting America or illegally enterying America is an American

    Remind me, do we hold it self evidently true that all Americans are created equal?

    If we can place historical revisionism aside for a second, let's not forget that the writers of the US constitution actually considered themselves as British (or German). Their point was that people of other nations must be treated with respect. "Other" from their (initial) point of view mean "America".

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    If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
  45. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Rogerborg · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    • Just for the record I was interviewed by two secret service agents today over a comment I made on another internet forum

    Assuming this is true, then it's a sad, sad indictment of the "intelligence" services.

    You posted a discussion of a hypothetical scenario for infecting the Vice President with a curable disease. Similar scenarios can be found in any number of Tom Clancy-esque pulp novels. You detailed why the method you suggested probably wouldn't work. You used your real name, and you provided your full details and address voluntarily, a few clicks away.

    And the secret service decided that it was a good use of their resources to send a couple of goons to check your loyalty?

    OK, the SS screwed the pooch on September 11th. They'll be super paranoid now (in the proper clinical sense). But if they can't distinguish between jawing and plotting, they have no chance of stopping the next attacks. None.

    For what it's worth, it sounds like you handled this the right way. The agents themselves probably weren't morons. The problem is with the moron who sent them. He or she needs a good kicking.

    For the record, one way to do this would be to trip him or her up, then kick him or her sharply and repeatedly in the kidneys.

    Uh oh. What have I said? Now evil terrorists will know how to do it! Where should I report for my loyalty check?

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  46. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Jetifi · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yup, that's the secret service.

    If you've read The Hacker Crackdown you'll know that part of their job is to trawl through all the threats made on the presidents/VPs' life - visiting mental institutes, crims in jail, and even the people who post threats on public forums.

    http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/hacker/lorder1.ht ml#1

    To quote:

    The real squalor in Service work is drudgery such as "the quarterlies," traipsing out four times a year, year in, year out, to interview the various pathetic wretches, many of them in prisons and asylums, who have seen fit to threaten the President's life

    ...

    If you ever state that you intend to kill the President, the Secret Service will want to know and record who you are, where you are, what you are, and what you're up to. If you're a serious threat - if you're officially considered "of protective interest" - then the Secret Service may well keep tabs on you for the rest of your natural life.

    So it was nothing personal, just doing their job. Understand I'm not making judgments on you, them, their job, your post...

  47. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In other words, he was silly to consent to the search, silly to talk to them, and silly to do anything once they showed up without first advising an attorney.

  48. Uh oh. by sigwinch · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Just for the record I was interviewed by two secret service agents today over a comment I made on another internet forum...
    And in that discussion I made comments about the entire chain of command being infected from the VP. And the K5 account is registered with my work email address. At least I won't have to worry about trying to hide being interrogated by the SS from my boss. ;-)

    <sigh> From now on I'm gonna just put a grid reference in my signature...

    For what it's worth, I've talked to people who answer phones at an FBI office, and you would have trouble believing the number of lunatics that call them. E.g., people who truly believe that the Secretary of Defense is using mind rays to control their hamster. After the Reagan/Hinkley/Foster debacle you can hardly blame the Secret Service for being a bit twitchy about potential nutcases.

    On the bright side, it was probably a prize for the agents to interview you. After hunting down vagrant basket cases and militiamen, a garden variety Tom Clancy wannabe has to be a relief.

    Good luck, Lee, and try not to worry about any further gov't action. If they were going to do something, you'd already be experiencing it. It simply isn't their style to pussyfoot around. I look forward to reading the details when Kuro5hin is back up.

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    1. Re:Uh oh. by brokeninside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      After hunting down vagrant basket cases and militiamen, a garden variety Tom Clancy wannabe has to be a relief.


      Inspecting my house had to have been incredibly unimpressive for them. I do know that giving me a ride home to search my residence enabled one of the special agents to put off an evening interview until the next day.

      What surprised me the most was just how normal the special agents were. I know a lot police officers, former military police officers, firefighters, and the like. In my experience most public safety officers (especially the armed ones, but the firefighters, too) give off a certain aura. By contrast, these folks blended in very naturally into the business environment.

      So much for all the movies I've seen. ;)

      Good luck, Lee, and try not to worry about any further gov't action.


      I'm not really worried, but I feel a certain obligation to tell people that I'm regularly in contact with and sometimes that leads to coincidences that seem, well, odd. For example, I was explaining my ordeal to someone on IRC last night and about five minuted into the conversation both of lost our connection to the server. Odd, that was. Probably a coincidence, too.

      I did go to trouble of getting a book on case law concerning freedom of speech and I'm fairly certain that my comments were no way, shape or form illegal under any light. I'm toying with the idea of going to speak with a lawyer, but I don't know if I'll follow through. (There is a referal service here in town that get you your first half hour for $20.)

      My view on the whole matter thus far is pretty simple: no harm, no foul.

      It's not like anything bad has happened to me. My nerves simply got a bit rattled.

      Regards,

      Lee

  49. Re:what is there to be thankful about? by jht · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    OK, the SS screwed the pooch on September 11th. They'll be super paranoid now (in the proper clinical sense). But if they can't distinguish between jawing and plotting, they have no chance of stopping the next attacks. None

    Actually, the Secret Service did their job perfectly on September 11 - the proof is that the President and Vice-President are still alive. The FBI and CIA screwed the pooch, though. The mission of the Secret Service is to investigate and prosecute crime involving the Treasury Department (of which they are a part) - and that gives them cover to handle almost anything with a financial component (hence the Steve Jackson Games case). They also provide protection to the President, Vice President, major party candidates, visiting heads of state, and so on. As a result, they handle threats to those who they protect.

    But nothing in the Secret Service's functions would imply any responsibility for detecting the terrorist activity that culminated in the September 11 attacks. When it happened, they got the Vice President to shelter outside of Washington, and they got the President onto Air Force One (which isn't just an ordinary 747...) with fighter escorts and they started playing "where's Waldo" until they were sure they could bring him back to the White House safely.

    As much as the Secret Service gets (justly) criticized for what we see as excesses in the computer-related cases they've had a hand in, the group that protects the Executive are as good as it gets. They take security very seriously, and would put themselves in front of a bullet or a bomb before allowing their charge to be hurt.
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  50. Holy Shit! How Did Secret Serv. Know Who You Were? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Did k5 give over your user information? How?