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Yup. Sure looks prime to me, yessir. Cesaro writes: "BBC is reporting that the largest prime number yet found has been verified. This number is 4,053,946 digits and took them almost 2 years to find on the GIMPS distributed system. More information can be had here"
This punishment may have to be let out for certain crimes. A semi-anonymous reader wrote to point out that implications of the recent Windows virus Goner may have broader implications than were previously clear. "With word that the new 'Goner' email virus was quickly spreading across the globe, 41 U.S. states and six European countries today announced that anyone caught creating or purposefully distributing a computer virus will be prosecuted under hate crime statutes for intentionally targeting 'people of stupidity.'
The trouble with sounding too good to be true ... Greg Titus writes "As a followup to yesterday's story about the Treo MP3 player (touted as iPod competition) ... Check out the Treo web site this morning (http://www.treoplayer.com/): 'Due to issues beyond Hy-Tek Manufacturing and e.Digital Corporation's control, Hy-Tek has discontinued production of the current Treo design.'"
Getting at the guts of a Linn. thegadgetman, in a fit of "blatant bit of self-promotion" with some more information about the technology that runs the recently-featured (and incredible looking) Linn KiVOR.
"The Linn KiVOR is the first of an ever increasing number of companies adopting our XiVA software for powering the next-generation of media appliances. Built from the start to run on Linux (now running 2.4 series kernel) XiVA blends hard disk technology, advanced software design and embedded Internet technology to provide amazing features.As well as OEMing our technology, we have our own range of hard-disk audio products - our SoundServers. The M1000 is a range that goes up to 16 outputs and 3 hard-disk, and our S1000 range includes intuitive TV interface and a range up to 3 outputs. All the current products feature professional quality audio cards from Midiman. All these feature the XiVA-Link protocol which has been adopted by many of the major Home Automation controllers (AMX, Crestron etc), and is used by our XiVA-Producer PC application for meta-data editing and MP3 transfer. We also have software for automatic generation of Pronto CCF files, and an application that turns a Visor (with IR booster) into a graphical remote control that contains a listing of all the albums on the server.
Our recently launched XiVA-Net portal is the exciting new Internet based entertainment service from Imerge! It is dedicated to delivering entertainment to the new wave of internet-connected AV products. It will enable you to find out more about the music and artists you love as well as thousands you have not yet had the chance to listen to. XiVA-Net will allow you to buy music, book concert tickets and get the latest music news and gossip from the comfort of your living room. see our web-sites (http://www.imerge.co.uk http://xiva-net.com and http://www.xiva.com) for full details"
Are there no sections? Can they not delve? Since many people have submitted this story, please note that an interesting story on the Higgs Boson, or, perhaps better said, on the lack of Higgs Boson ran in the science section, and is worth checking out.
Just 'not found at 115GeV'. Besides, the article was in New Scientist, not exactly the epitome of scientific journals.
The Treo information page at edigitalstore and their order page says *nothing* about this. Is it for real, or just a decently made hoax?
:(
Anyone have any updates at all?
Here's the original link.
And I wanted one for chanukah, too.
As nice as that would be... I just want to make sure some of the people who would be covered under said law know that this article is fake.
Let's see. A good 80% of the posters (not counting the iPod astroturfers) on that topic were unimpressed with the Treo. It has half the capacity, 1/10th the download speed, and a terrible UI.
/. was their way of gauging customer response. The poor man's market research. :-)
Is it any wonder that they discontinued it? Perhaps submitting the article to
"My virus wasn't targeting stupid computer users specifically, just anyone using Microsoft's Outlook Express or AOL," he said. "Oh... damn."
Haha... that all most made my coffee come out my nose.
can't sleep slashdot will eat me
That Treo announcement was for their old Treo product. This new product (the Treo 10) has been announced long after that message was put up. I have recieved confirmation of this by eDigital on the Treoplayer mailing list at Yahoo groups. It should still be coming out.
This is the stupidest law ever. By stupid people, for stupid people, to protect stupid people from themselves.
It sounds like some public officials are tired of frying their networks and getting "that guy who knows computers and stuff" mad at them!
No sig for you.
Since these guys used the Handspring Treo name with different letter accented maybe the replacement will be called Ipód
Help fight continental drift.
Maybe if you had noticed that the URL at which you could go read that story was SATIREWIRE ...
Yeesh... Nevermind.
'Due to issues beyond Hy-Tek Manufacturing and e.Digital Corporation's control, Hy-Tek has discontinued production of the current Treo design.'
1. Insert Tongue in Cheek
2. Begin Speculation
RIAA Lawyers prob'ly threatened 'em with all manner of legal trouble when they got wind of the lack of DRM on the Treo.
Just wondering because everyone is taking this
Satirewire article as real...
Something to think about.
That's why we only have filthy rich clients.
Never never never smoke crack before geometry class!
This is not a troll, off topic, or flamebait.
If anyone is looking for a cheaper portable music player, check out the iPod LC.
Should we be relieved or terrified that 'stupid people' are being given specific protection under the law now?
The treoplayer.com website is registered to an individual and he is the only contact. Its some dude with an earthlink email address. Check it out. There is no mention of the discontinuation at the manufacturer or distributors websites. Plus, the layout of the treoplayer.com site is amateurish at best. Me thinks Slashdot has been had.
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
damned vapor-ware!
ahh well... 10GB drive did sound too cheap...
:-(
Can you imagine the happiness, then the happiness turn to horror as the server crashes 5 minutes before it gives the actual answer(its count got so high it rolled back to 42).
iPod LC. For about the amount of money you have buried in your couch (if your like me) it's all yours!
Hey! Isn't prime number research prosecutable under the DMCA? They should shut those pirates down! A whole network of people trying to hack DVDs!
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What follows is my favorite prime number, wihch fun unzipping properties:
48565078965739782930984189469428613770744208735
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
Why complain about the Treo? I got my 20 Gg MP3 player at http://www.archos.com/. It works fantastic.....I have 4 gigs of songs, more than I could ever need, as well as a backup of all my important files, like my resume!!!!! A USB connector and cig-lighter power lets this thing go from work to car so I can listen to tunes on the ride home. Has anyone else got this as well?
can I just say, I have a iPod LC, and it's great. I proudly showed it off at work, and had the entire office looked on in wonder. Its use of a mix of normal batterys and solar power is a god send, well it would be if I did not work nights, which combinned with the solar recharger from maplin I can safly ignore the red letters from ePower. And I can duel boot from it! Its masive 500Mb harddisk is partitioned with both MacOS and PPCLinux! And I don't need any fancy-paints connector like USB or Firewire, plugs right into my Mac's IDE chain! Mlk
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
Really. Go look at that "hate crime against stupid people" link. It's from SatireWire - come on, guys. Read the disclaimer: "All stories are fictional and satirical and should not in any way be construed as fact."
Oops.
We who were living are now dying
With a little patience
That virus hate crime thing is satire, as in: "It's funny. Laugh".
I don't believe it for a second. Does anyone actually own one of these? Looks like a complete sham to me. Trying to steal some thunder b/c apple, as usual, came out with a device that blows everyone elses design away.
Regardless, i thought this thing looked unlikely in the first place -- now even more so. If someone actually has a working unit in their possession, i will retract my disbelief, but will redouble my dislike for inferior copycats...
I just heard about this this afternoon, really amazing.
Spencer Ogden
...on TreoPlayer.com reveals some interesting facts:
:D
;)
Check out the source code. Lovely ol' Frontpage inserted an author meta tag with the name "Jerzy Bilyk".
Here is where it gets interesting. Run a Google search on "Jerzy Bilyk", and you come up with this page (Google cache used because the original doesn't exist anymore). It lists a "Bilyk, Jerzy" as having a supended license (among other crimes.) The police department is in Plano, IL.
Now here's the really interesting part: a WHOIS on treoplayer.com shows a John Bastion as owning the domain. His address? Sugar Grove, IL: about 12 miles from Plano. (Mapquest proves it).
I think, from this, we can safely declare one golden rule: if you're going to do a hoax and submit it to Slashdot, don't freakin' use Frontpage!
P.S. I'm available as a consultant if anyone from Slashdot would like to hire an editor/story checker.
As we all know, attempting to determine the mass of the Higgs boson is what causes Type 13 planets to collapse
to the size of a pea. (Scroll about halfway down the page for the reference, then see here for an explanation of the reference to fans.)
"I am not a victim of a hate crime because I am not stupid," said Smith. "I got an email with an attachment from my buddy in Phoenix, so naturally, I opened it. What's so stupid about that?"
What, Smith was asked, did the email say?
"It said, 'I_love_you.' Why?"
In the words of the great Homer Simpson....Doh!
This is the most informative and acurate article I have seen posted in a very long time. Too bad people think it's a joke.....
I thought that most of the articles came from random word generators. They certainly read like it.
Now before some moderator with an itchy finger mods me down as flamebait, I want to explain my (only somewhat) facetious comment there.
(WARNING: The following has little to do with tonight's slashback, and is mostly a rant)
Three years ago or so, the LDP looked to be the ultimate collaborative project to complement the coming victory of open source software.
Unfortunately, something got lost along the way. There are "current" documents in the LDP that haven't been looked at since 1998. The articles are taken as submitted, and not even proofread for accuracy, let alone timliness, relevance, grammar, or spelling.
Furthermore, when I last offered to help, I got ignored. While I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to write HOWTOs or the like, I would have been quite happy to do those annoying jobs--proofreading, editing, and the like. The responses I got were: "," "Thanks but no thanks--we don't need editors" and, "Editing would introduce technical errors."
Maybe things have changed recently, but for quite a few years the LDP was one of the biggest hinderances to Linux getting better accepted.
Now as far as the licensing issue goes, who CARES??? All of these stupid little fights over which license is better, how we can avoid infringing that license, etc. etc., are pointless and damaging. If someone infringes license "x", then it's up to the owner/creator of the license to prosecute. If there's no desire to prosecute and/or if there's no clearly no deliberate abuse, then there is no need to make any issue of this at all. The LDP authors don't need to be bothered. Period.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
Anyone interested can read his sponsor's account on his blog, as well as blog entries for the expedition before the tragedy.
Peter Blake's blog
The TinWeasle: "Worming Out of Culpability since 1978" - Opinions expressed are mine alone, yadda, yadda, yadda
Well, if it helps any to you Ipod jonesin' Windows folks out there, you might want to keep an eye on XPlay by MediaFour. It's a Windows Ipod package... Here's the link:
http://www.mediafour.com/products/xpod/
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
It seems to have been created with Microsoft Frontpage. Check out the source.
:))
Ah ha! So Microsoft Frontpage was used to build the hoax! Another terrible reason to hate a terrible company... (just joking
No, really, it appears to be false in many ways. Disregard it completely.
...and get over your bad ol days B.S.
Yep it was a rant and I shouldn't have been tempted to reply but hey.
The people on ldp-discuss@ are the nicest and most down to earth people.
"3 yrs ago it was a bit rude - so people thought linux sucked" is not argument. The linux audience was massively different 3 yrs ago anyway.
If you wanna put your money where your mouth is check out the LDP web site for info on how to help. I hope you will be plesently suprised.
well, if u ppl want to volunteer as editors, why don't u approach the authors directly? i'm a minor LDP author myself and i find it really painful to go thru my doc again and again. and as for outdated stuffs, yes, definitely i agree. however there is a call for new mainatainers for really outdated docs at the LDP site itself things are really changing with the LDP having a big database for authors and editors (www.gldp.org) weekly call for maintainers of unmainatained docs and things, and let's hope for the very best
Can you imagine better protection for a virus writer?
"Mr. Prosecuter, was your client adversely affected by Mr. Jones malicious program?"
"Yes sir, he was."
"And is your client 'stupid,' under the statuates of the State of New York."
" Uhh.. No sir? He's not?"
"CASE DISMISSED!"
----- "Oh, Stewardess! I speak l33t!"
That Treo homepage has been up for more than a year. It previously had information about the Treo and was linked to by other technology and music sites. Probably at least a month ago, the site posted the message you now see, which was no surprise because the Treo was scheduled to come out in Fall 2000. Obviously eDigital has decided to pick a different manufacturer than Hy-Tek and go ahead with the production of the Treo 10. Hy-Tek did claim to be based in Illinois on the old site and seem to be legitimate from all I've seen. Maybe they just picked a shady webmaster.
If this was an intent to defraud people by floating a bogus MP3 player that one-upped the iPod, why would he be selling a 6 GB drive with a USB connection? The speed of the FireWire connection on the iPod is one of its main selling features, and is the one feature it has that no other MP3 player on the market has. And the Treo has a USB 1.1 connection at that.
Granted, most PC's don't have a FireWire port, but I think I would have at least said it had a combo USB/FireWire port.
On a related note, the Classic XP3 player sold by circuit city uses the same base design as the true, and sports a few extra features like recording and extended battery life. I read a few reports of problems with it though, usually due to the fact the case is made out of plastic instead of aluminum like the Treo.
-- Classism is the new racism
I suggest you try the http://www.treoplayer.com link again. It now redirects you to http://www.edig-store.com , where the Treo 10 can be purchased for $249.95. Also, a clone of the Treo is being sold as the Classic XP3 at Circuit City stores nationwide for $279.95. Same 10 GB capacity, and both players can encode in MP3 format from their audio input jack. (No PC required). The can also act as external hard drives via their USB port. (Rumor has it that Firewire and USB 2.0 capability will be added in 2002.) If the Circuit City salespeople can't point you to the XP3, have them look it up on their inventory computer. It is listed as 'CHD1000'.