Slashdot Mirror
Terminator 3: Attack of the Terminatrix
jinx_ was among many who wrote in to say: "Arnold Schwarzenegger" is back for another installment of the Terminator Franchise. Reportedly a $30 million payday for Arnold.
← Back to Stories (view on slashdot.org)
Here is the link to Terminator 3 on IMDB.
For some reason they seem to have movie info MONTHS before everyone else finds out about it.
Want to find out if there will be a sequel to your favorite move? Check out IMDB. I saw the austin power sequels about 6 - 8 months (including casting) before anyone else found out.
hm... maybe Arnold will give some of his money to the EFF
Good enough should have been left alone after T2; I'm not sure how you'd make a sequal to improve on that movie even with a younger Arnold and a Linda Hamilton who isn't sick of James Cameron.
But yeah, I'm sure I'll see it, but this is a big mistake.
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Are they actually going to make this a Politically Correct type of movie? A Terminatrix? Or did they just need a reason for a sex scene?
It just seems funny. The first movie had an obvious heroine and hero; they both served their roles and made the audience happy by creating a loving relationship while also doing neat action sequences and screaming as a strange, mechanized killer attacked them. But this?
Possible Plot:
Terminatrix Seduction:
The entire plot of the movie rests in the fact that a 20-something male, as commented in the article, has absolutely no power over his... organs... and will fall easily into the hands of an incredily beautiful woman who asks him on a rather cordial date. I don't see how she could lose with this strategy.
Terminatrix-PC:
A new black Conner (to try to promote gender equality) is paired with Jackie Chan and Arnold Schwartz to provide the ultimate in "inclusive" casting. The Terminatrix will have the ability to morph into whatever type of socially unrepresented class happens to present itself, allowing for quick and easy resolution of unsatisfied audience demographic.
"The film is seen as a potential "tentpole" picture for the summer of 2003"
If it's anything like Robotrix, I'm sure it will be...
Wow, they're going to need some amazing make-up artists! Old robots might rust, but they won't wrinkle! ;)
Either ways, it'd be interesting to see what the new improved Terminatrix sports as a feature. The last liquifying capability of the earlier Terminator sent back was way cool, and they need to surpass themselves here.
Also, with a name like Terminatrix, I'm expecting so see some parodies/spoof on indie movie sites on the Terminatrix/Dominatrix theme. Should be fun, eh ?
A robot must protect the existence of the movie franchise as long as it does not conflict with the First or Second (or Zeroth) Law.
/. is irrelevant.
how are they going to explain that los angelas didn't, in fact, get nuked in 1996? or will they just play along with the original plot?
when the rain comes, they run and hide their heads. they might as well be dead.
First of all, it's hard to post at all because Willow is on and it's hard to divert my attention.
Concerning Terminator 3, my griend Google me that Linda Hamilton will not be returning, Eddie Furlong will be playing John Conner, is titled Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, could possible star Chyna (WWF), will not be directed by James Cameron, up untill this past June there were talks that Ed Norton would be playing John Conner, and NoChickTrix will not be featured but is deffinatly worth checking out.
I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
"I'll be back... just after I get this hip replacement"
If you have read the Dan Simmons "Hyperion" books, think the Shrike. It's shiny, spiky, ultra-violent and can control time, making it possible to be omnipresent
- that's how a T3 ass-wooper should be IMO.
But besides that, my guess is that transparency or super-camoflage will be T3 feature. Another possibility would be splitting into more entities (mini-mes) and kicking Arnyass from mulitiple angles. That would make for some awesome fighting scenes, if the robot suddenly splits into two and each of those do their thing.
Oh yeah, of course the whole thing would be filmed in matrix-o-scope with plenty of ninja moves.
-Kraft
Live and let live
You know, the last planet of the Apes movie that Charlton Heston made included blowing up the planet at the end. Some interviews said that this was so that it would be THE END of the saga. And then they made another.
They sort of tied up ALL the loose ends in the previous movie as well...it will sort of make the plot not as good to make another.
On the other hand, there are hundreds of Conan books, and lots of plots to choose from. Sword & Sorcery is a classic genre. I wouldn't mind if he (or someone else) made a few more of those. Heck, they could make twenty or thirty of them. I'd watch them when I wanted to see an action movie.
While I'm at it, I might as well mention a few other good movies that could easily have more sequels that I would like to see.
Ghostbusters (probably need different guys)
Tron (same idea, but with modern computer systems)
They Live!(I wanna see more of that fight scene - MUCH better than matrix)
HHGTG (except for make it a REAL movie this time)
Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
my guess is that transparency or super-camoflage will be T3 feature.
The Teminatrix's secret weapon? Alpha Blending!!! I wonder if she'll have an nVidea logo on her forhead.
Get J.Lo to be the Terminatrix... she's already got a huge heat-sink of an ass
(stop me before I joke again....)
Someone mod this guy down as his "+1 Information" is incorrect information. This isn't old news; maybe it is old rumor.
... is looking to handle domestic rights to this picture," one person with knowledge of the talks told Reuters. "Over the last few days, this has been the hottest property in Hollywood."
No studio has agreed to pick this pic up yet. No money has been paid out to start making it. No footage of Arnie has been shot yet.
From the current article:
According to entertainment trade paper Daily Variety, the producers behind the project have set their asking price at $50 million, plus half of the gross receipts generated from the film. Sources told Reuters Friday that talks could wrap by early this week. Assuming a deal goes through, production would begin in April with Jonathan Mostow, who directed the submarine war flick "U-571," succeeding James Cameron at the helm of the latest "Terminator." Variety has put Mostow's fee at more than $5 million. The film is seen as a potential "tentpole" picture for the summer of 2003, and studio interest is keen given that "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" grossed more than $500 million worldwide after its 1991 release. Experts say a franchise with such proven box-office clout normally has a studio home by the time it gets to its third outing. "Almost every studio in town
the biggest of all plot holes is: Who created the terminator?
:)
We Found out in #2 that the design was based on the one they found in #1
SOMEONE MUST HAVE DESIGNED THEM
Arnold is a little bit older no doubt but he is still ARNOLD. 7 time Mr. Olympia, 3 time Mr. Universe, one of the best know faces on the planet. Arnold is awesome, any movie graced by his presence is awesome, regardless of the movie quality itself. Arnold has a presence about him that makes him almost superhuman. Arnold is the American Dream... what next, the Presidency?
Stop the whining about Arnold being "too old", he is in better shape even now at 55 then 99.9% of you twenty year olds out there. Arnold is Awesome, Arnold is back...
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson
www.haidacarver.com
Well, since the 'protector' got upgraded as well, shouldn't Arny get a shiny new shapeshifting body this time?
Dyolf Knip
Where can I get a copy of the screen play? I am interested in reading a copy. I have no problem showing my actors guild card. Any ideas?
"Not my manner of thinking but the manner of thinking of others has been the source of my unhappiness." - M
And written by one of my favorite authors, no less. Steve Stirling does a lot of alternate history novels (go read the Draka books; terrifying villains and an awesome fiction of what the Space Race could have been) and military sci-fi.
Dyolf Knip
These all look like winners to me.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
You can't NOT have paradoxes (sp?) in a time travelling story man! Go read the comic book serise "Time Breakers" (5 issues) from Rachel Pollack (write) and Chris Weston (art). Great stuff about paradox.
Codeala - Just another mindless drone
That's all we really need is Star Trek 8 with different characters and settings...
"Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gautier
They can always change the constitution. So yes, he could be president.
Lest we forget, the Constitution wass written by people who had won an armed insurrection. Thus is history changed. Get enough Arniephiles together...
And the guy is smooth. I recall seeing a British shockumentary team jumping him when he was doing a "Don't use drugs, kids" appearance at an elementary school.
"Don't you think it's hypocritical of you to say that when your own fame is based on your use of steroids?" they asked. Oooh, gotcha. There's no good answer to that.
Arnie didn't so much as blink, he just smiled a big toothy smile and said, friendly but firm, "We're mostly doing American TV just now, guys." And that was it. The issue was closed.
Personally, I think that having a guy (or gal) in charge who isn't just a remote controlled puppet might be a good thing. Bush can read the words from an autocue, but he doesn't comprehend them.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Speaking of the Hyperion Cantos, does anyone else think that they'd make a great set of movies? I can't be the only one who thinks so. I guess some of it would be hard to shoot, and of course a lot of it would have to be cut to fit the 2 hour time limit. But still, the Shrike is sooo badass.
garc
Strangely enough, it was approximately a month ago that I happen to be searching for DivX on Gnutella (I was looking for only legal videos of course) and one of the results was 'Terminator 3'. Although I'm the first to be skeptical of it's authenticity, the size was as it should be, and it wasn't comming from a system that had previously spewed out junk results. All I can say is that I tried to download it(at least the first few minutes) to see if it was a hoax, but the host was too busy (as is usually expected with Gnutella hosts with movies available) so I'm still not sure if it was indeed some sort of early version that got smuggled out, or just someone who created a file that was the right size, and made it available for others to download, as a joke (we all remember the bogus songs on Nappster don't we).
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
People here have been saying that arnold is obviously too old to play a robot that doesn't age. May he will be playing the human being on which Skynet based the looks of the original terminator. Perhaps there's an interesting reason why that form was chosen.
Scott
Just once still I suppose, they never claimed otherwise in the other two movies. The question should be, how many times is John Conner gonna need his ass saved by some futuristic cyborg?
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Cyberdyne's offsite backups! Any remotely competent admin will make sure that there are some backups kept somewhere else, in case there's a fire or a rampaging cyborg.
PHEM - party like it's 1997-2003!
Assuming that history can be changed, yes, someone had to design them. And they did, just in an alternate universe that we didn't get to see.
On the other hand, it is consistent, if you assume that the past cannot be changed, for the technology to have no inventors. Information need not be conserved in time-travel interactions.
This isn't a paradox. A paradox is self-inconsistent. But you can also have consistent loops where effects are their own causes. This is an orthogonal concept, so they have been called "perpendoxes".
Anyway, if you care about this sort of thing, check out my time travel page.
PHEM - party like it's 1997-2003!
If you're referring to movies educating people then I don't want to live in a world where such a thing happens. Remember how everyone was suddenly an expert on viruses after a string of crappy movies came out in the mid-'90s? Remember how everyone was screaming about how we needed to set up a terrestrial defense system after a couple of even crappier movies came out a few years ago?
Such movies do nothing but foster a chicken little syndrome in the public at large. Hollywood has never relied on anything like historical accuracy or facts to get in the way of a story. If we expect people to be educated about or become aware of issues because of what they see in a movie then this world is indeed in a very sorry state.
I think the best we can expect to see out of this is the usual two-minute story on the local late-night news: "KILLER ROBOTS TAKING OVER THE WORLD! Can this happen here?" - followed by stock interviews with the guys from the MIT AI Lab.
Boobies. The robot will have boobies. Big, bouncy ones, hopefully.
The perfect movie for a typical Hollywood starlet... they can be full of silicone, but she can still say they are real.
Religion is the opiate of the masses. The wealthy smoke the real stuff.
- "Arnie didn't so much as blink, he just smiled a big toothy smile and said, friendly but firm, "We're mostly doing American TV just now, guys." And that was it. The issue was closed."
Huh? That's an answer? I don't get it.Let me make it clear. This team had flown over from the UK, purely to catch Arnie out. They had sprung their carefully prepared trap and were all fired up and ready to go. Then Arnie said "No, this isn't going to happen", and it just stopped happening. He didn't give an order, or a denial, or seem defensive. He simply redefined reality, and suddenly the shockumentary crew just seemed childish and pathetic, and they just shut up.
Like him or not, he's got some powerful mojo working, plus he's self made. That's the kind of person I'd like to see running the country for a while, rather than a career politician.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
"Die bad robots, die! With witty lines like that, I could be an action hero" -H. Simpson
"Registered on IMDB" doesn't mean anything more than film execs arguing about who, when, and how the film will be made at some point in the future. That's a LONG way from "in production".
Terminator (both the original and the sequal) are probably included in the shining jewels of the Sci-Fi Movie Crown.
Consider this, like good sci-fi, the plot hinges on future scientific developements, in this case, cyborgs and time-travel. The plot isn't bad, even if it has been done before, and the acting is decent.
The sequal is actually better then the first. Like any good sequal, it doesn't rely on the plot of the first, but instead lets a new plot develop, but a plot that is tied back into the first movie. I especially like the part about the asylum - finally, blowing up stuff to save the world has consequences. There is also the redevelopment of the Terminator character.
All in all, good movies, and good sci-fi.
Which means, they'll probably rape T3 in the name of "profits", and hack the script to hell.
*Sigh*
It looks like Universal would rather deal with the Incredible Hulk than the Terminator.
m.kelley
life is like a freeway, if you don't look you could miss it.
Heres some sites that show some intresting info on it. Search around goolge, theres tons of sites.
I am a HUGE Terminator fan, and would LOVE to see if happen. But, I have been very disappointed many times already. If it happens, I am sure I will be the first at the theater. Until then, I will forget about it and see what happens.
until (succeed) try { again(); }
The overall cost of bringing "T3" to the screen has reportedly been placed at $165 million to $180 million, which would easily eclipse the record $135 million believed spent to make "Pearl Harbor."
Star Peep
Dateline: Costner Ranch
Kevin Costner has issued a statement concerning the new "Terminator" movie's record-breaking budget of $165-$180 million.
"$180 million is NOTHING compared to my new movie. Just as we did in Waterworld and the Postman, we will break new ground in budgetary extravagance with my offering of the "Sanitationer!" This 5 hour opus details the struggle of an Assistant Sidewalk Sanitizer to uphold the American Dream in the face of a Post-Apocalyptic Breakdown of the United States Government due to Electronic Piracy. The movie will follow him, (played by me, Kevin Costner), from his first day on the street, to his final, gloriously uplifting confrontation with the bad guy. We are up to $249 million, and we haven't even added the bazookas yet!"
When asked if the job of a Assistant Sidewalk Sanitizer was picking up dog droppings, he replied, "Well, at first it is."
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
I think he could play a PROTOSS. Would be a good movie too.
Who'd play Kerrigan?
Let's not stir that bag of worms...
Not so. During the fight with the T1000, one of Arnie's arms gets ripped off in a large gear like piece of machinery. They never bothered to recover it.
Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
All of you complaining that there is no basis for sequels to T1 and T2 are ignoring one very important point: any movie based on the premise of time travel has built-in sequel possibilities. The SkyNet AIs can conceivably try over and over ad-infinitum.
;).
Besides, you didn't really think that they destroyed all of the intellectual property concerning Ahnold in T2, did you? Any company worth its 10Q filing has off-site backups
-"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle." - Arthur Dent
Even after watchin T2 the first time, I noticed the sequel-opportunity. Notice how, at one point, Arnold gets his robotic arm ripped off by a big gear in a factory. Also notice that later on, when he's saying bye-bye, going into the molten metal pool, he doesn't have that lost arm with him.
So, what happened in the original Terminator for the sequel to happen? Uh, the robot lost its arm in a factory, which was later on found by computer scientists and used to create the AI that would end up fucking humanity's shit up. Sound familiar?
thought that said "Terminex" when i first read it, and then thought, "Hm, that's odd product placement." whew, I really need that monday AM coffeee...
https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
Let's compare him to Dubya a little more, Arnie is self-made, not a failure in business matters (well, Planet Hollywood - but we are comparing him to Dubya) and he has the better command of the English language.
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
The human's finally beat the machines once and for all with their deadly secret weapon... /. effect!
The
I stole this Sig
...as a bunch of horny, nerdy, male adolescents. Who else would wank over a "Terminatrix" (undoubtedly to be played by some pretty actress with large bosoms and little talent; q. v. _Tomb Raider_), but the same crowd for whom Seven of Nine was written into "Voyager".
Cheers,
hyacinthus.
Under this hypothetical genre, you could do something nutty like relax the constraints of historical accuracy and current scientific understanding in order to optimize for other, non-engineering attributes like drama, tension, and the progression of a storyline even though fundamental carrying particles for these forces are yet to be generated at Fermilab.
There might be value in presenting "stories" in this new "fictional" way, so long as people are made to understand that they're "just movies" and that they shouldn't take them so "seriously" and that nobody but nobody confuse a movie theatre with a library. (*)
Just a thought.
(*) hint: both theatres and libraries are louder places than they used to be, but in general, the theater is the one with the sticky floor and the THX sound system.
It will be CGI, and it will take place in cyberspace, where the Terminatrix battles with Dot Matrix (and Bob, and Frisket, and yummy Hexidecimal in her corset, stockings, and thigh-high boots) for the control of Skynet.
Halfway through, Megabyte falls in love with Terminatrix, because he finally realizes that he needs a good solid spanking.
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
no paradoxes in time travel stories? What are you smoking? I just saw a Futurama episode last night where Fry went back in time and killed his own grandfather! (then fucked his grandmother).
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
...where the Terminatrix battles with Dot Matrix...
Will he also battle Lord Dark Helmet, President Skroob and Colonel Sandurz?
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Wrong. It was the CPU from the first T-800 that enabled Miles Dyson to create his revolutionary microprocessor. (Quickly pop the DVD in my computer...) From the movie:
DYSON
The chip. Do you know about the chip?
SARAH
What chip?
DYSON
They keep it in the vault at Cyberdyne. (to the Terminator) It must be from the other one like you.
TERMINATOR
The CPU from the first Terminator.
SARAH
Son of a bitch! I knew it!
DYSON
They told us not to ask where they got it.
SARAH
(to herself) Those lying motherfuckers!
DYSON
It was scary stuff. Radically advanced. It was smashed. It didn't work, but it gave us ideas, took us in new directions. Things we would have never... All my work was based on it.
Besides, I really doubt anyone could create a microprocessor capable of birthing AI from a mechanical arm.
That said, there doesn't seem to be any obvious plot threads upon which to hang a sequel. But that's obviously not a sequel killer. Jim Cameron excised the original ending for T2 in which a future Sarah sits in utopia with John and her grandchild, telling of her successful fight for the future. He left it ambiguous to accent the idea, "the future is not set". But how they will justify the rise of Skynet now isn't very apparent.
We want some answers and all that we get
Some kind of shit about a terrorist threat
- Ministry
Don't know if this will impact the scheduling of the movie but......
'Terminator' breaks ribs in motorcycle crash
SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) -- Arnold Schwarzenegger was hospitalized with several broken ribs after a weekend motorcycle accident, his publicist said Monday.
The 54-year-old star of the "Terminator" movies was resting at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica after the Sunday afternoon crash, publicist Jill Eisenstadt said.
Schwarzenegger, who is negotiating to appear in a third "Terminator" film, was "in good spirits, feeling sore, but otherwise fine," she said.
"Don't worry," the actor said in a statement. "This won't affect my skiing with my family at Sun Valley (Idaho) this Christmas."
Details of the motorcycle accident, which also occurred in Santa Monica, were not immediately available.
Schwarzenegger underwent elective surgery to replace a heart valve in April 1997.
His new movie "Collateral Damage," which was postponed after the Sept. 11 attacks because it's about terrorism, now is scheduled to open in February.
link to another news source...
Scene 1: Grand offices of "Crappy Films Are US!"
"--And the title should sort of sound like 'Matrix' because 'The Matrix' was popular and people are so dip-shit stupid, that we can actually bank on them paying $11 a view just because it sounds similar to another movie they liked."
"Right again, Todd!"
--Face it folks. T2 was good because James Cameron, a certifiable loony toon ego-maniac, happens to also be very good at his job. That's it. That's the only reason. Feed T3 to generic Hollywood, and you can pretty much bet on a BIG PIECE OF STEAMING SHIT to come out of the other end.
Mmm! Hand me a bun!
-Fantastic Lad
(I know; I'm taking these movies too seriously and should get laid instead. Blah, blah, blah..)
One of my gripes with T2 was that Arnold was in it. (Not that I have anything against him.) Cameron explained away the 'fact' that his terminator looked the same as the one in the first movie, was that the terminators were mass-produced in a factory.
I couldn't buy into that, though, because the terminators were intended for infiltration. The pesky humans aren't supposed to recognize them! If they all look the same, doesn't that mess things up?
Each movie should have a different actor playing the terminator.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
True, however that chip from the first cyborg's head was also collected from the vault at Cyberdyne and dumped into the molten steel at the foundry...