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Annual NORAD Santa Tracker Up And Running

SumDeusExMachina writes: "NORAD is at it once again folks! You can track Santa as he travels across the globe via a nifty Real Media stream." Apparently, this guy has been making some changes up North, too, including stealth technology, so I hope the radar tracks.

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  1. Nice treat for young kids in the new age by buff_pilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    My 4 year old daughter was spun up due to all the Christmas excitement. We were having trouble getting her to sleep until we showed her where santa was on the map - he's getting close! So off to bed she went without a peep.

    1. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by mwillems · · Score: 3, Funny

      My 7 year old son just went through the same. Go to www.cnn.com and follow the "Norad tracks Santa" link. Finally, a use for tracking technology!

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    2. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by matrix29 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My 4 year old daughter was spun up due to all the Christmas excitement. We were having trouble getting her to sleep until we showed her where santa was on the map - he's getting close! So off to bed she went without a peep.

      Dad: "See little Susie, there's Santa and he's heading right for us."

      Susie: "Thank you daddy. I love you." (Kisses father on the cheek and goes off to bed followed by her brother)

      Older brother: "Susie."

      Susie: "What?"

      Brother: "NORAD tracks nuclear missles. Something is heading for our house and it's measured by megaton nuclear detonations and our entire town painfully burning to radioactive cinders. Goodnight Susie."

      Susie: "?!?" "?!?" "!!!" "DAD!!!"

      (And this is supposed to make children comfortable - HOW?!?)

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    3. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by Chester+K · · Score: 4, Funny

      What are the privacy implications of this? I mean, it's beyond question that the benefits of such powerful tracking benefit children the world over, but are we one step away from this technology being used on us?

      Will some day Big Brother turn to the "NORAD Tracks Chester K" website to find out where I am? I shiver at the thought. We need to write our Senators and Representatives and alert them to this horrible encroachment on our privacy -- this powerful tracking techonology must be shackled to prevent illicit use by the government.

      Fnord. Merry Christmas!

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    4. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

      Heh, my 5 yr and 8yr just now both fell asleep minutes ago. We also visited the noradsanta.com site to convince them to turn in. Worked like a charm

  2. How can you track santa? by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Everyone knows santa uses the principals of quantum mechanics to be in every house at the same time delivering gifts.

    How would tracking by radar be possible?

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    1. Re:How can you track santa? by MegaGremlin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Which explains why he can't come if your awake. If you see him, He'll be stuck at your house.

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    2. Re:How can you track santa? by sg_oneill · · Score: 2

      Hehe. It reminds me of when I was a kid, and confronting my father on how on earth the big guy was supposed to visit EVERY child on earth

      It was simple, I was explained; Santa travels so damn fast that time and space warp right around him and he just kinda surfs the curvature of spacetime into every chimney in town

      Of course it's a pretty silly explaination that really has nothing to do with relativity at all, but for a six year old I believe it worked for me.

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  3. Oh dear, it's getting worse by J.D.+Hogg · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you thought it was bad enough when Matthew Broderick messed up the WOPR, now the damn mainframe is going completely gaga ...

  4. New NP Technology by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 3, Redundant

    A few years ago, when I powered up one of the lost Clinton administration laptops (it was found in under a set on the DC Metro), I came across some interesting intelligience data. Apparently, the White Bearded One (WBO) has advanced well beyond what this article implies. I only caught a quick glimpse before the Secret Service snatched it from my hands and threatened to lock me up (didn't say where exactly).

    Naturally, I pretended not to have seen anything...except to say I was looking for a video game to play and it was just sitting there looking like it wanted to be played.

    Well, anyway...it seems that the WBO has been dabbling with quantum physics. Supposedly, he's found a way to convert himself into a wave function. This allows him to visit every home in the world simultaneously. But, it seems to work better if he contrained the function to a particular longitude. By adjusting this variable alone, he could make his visit to each child's home at exactly midnight in the child's time zone.

    Pretty ingenious if you ask me. He doesn't even need to slip down any more chimmneys and risk getting stuck (or burned). And, because the probabliity of him being where you are looking is so remote, he remains completely stealthy yet accomplishes his yearly mission in exactly one solar day. Whoa.

    Happy Holidays to All!

    RD

    1. Re:New NP Technology by SumDeusExMachina · · Score: 3, Funny
      He doesn't even need to slip down any more chimmneys and risk getting stuck (or burned).

      Heh, reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes comic where Calvin walks in on a roaring fireplace and douses it with a fire extinguisher screaming "WHAT'S THIS? SANTA FLAMBE?!"

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    2. Re:New NP Technology by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 2

      Why was the parent post to this message moderated as TROLL while other offbeat "stories" received "FUNNY" moderation? Apparently the moderator who awarded the Troll rating has a grudge against SANTA's R&D department or the fact that the Rudolf may soon be replaced. Must be a Union thing.

      However, after breaking this story, Santa's publicist announced that no Reindeer will lose their jobs over this advancement. They will still be used to assist in public appearances and receive the daily allotment of special magic grain.

      Hope everyone had a Wonderful Holiday.

      thx

      RD

  5. Re:Why RealMedia? by GlassUser · · Score: 2

    What I want to know is why a government agency is pissing money into supporting crap like this. I'm assuming it's from some NORAD PR budget or something.

  6. Re:NORAD has better things to do by yasth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Santa is not a Christian tradition, per se. Indeed he is quite secular.

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  7. Isn't it ironic? Wouldn't you say? by Quixote · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Isn't it ironic that this story of Santa being tracked as he goes about his business should appear right next to the "World Sousveillance Day" article....

  8. Email I got. by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Troll
    I emailed the site owner this morning, saying.
    I have to ask? How many massive bong hits did you have before comming up with this site? Its great!

    and got the following reply.


    John,

    Santa's sled is powered by reindeer not 'bong hits' (whatever that is). Our technology is supplied by the incredibly complex NORAD tracking system, the website by STK and AOL.

    Keep checking out the website throughout the day .... Santa will be over Doak Campbell stadium in a few hours.

    Go 'Noles.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Years

    Team NORAD


    They took the time to figure out I was from FSU area from my ip I guess. Very impresed :)

    1. Re:Email I got. by AlterEd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Took the time? They're tracking Santa Claus, do you really think they didn't know where you were before you sent the email? ;-)

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    2. Re:Email I got. by redcliffe · · Score: 2

      I think that's a good slip up. They obviously know exactly where every email comes from, and all internet data.

    3. Re:Email I got. by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 3, Funny

      They probably even checked the list twice.

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  9. From CNN... by ktakki · · Score: 5, Funny

    From CNN:

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. military officials are tracking Santa's travel path and reporting the latest data on his location on a Web site.

    "If he deviates from his filed flight plan or turns off his transponder, we're prepared to scramble F-15s from Langley AFB, Eglin AFB, Mountain Home AFB, Elmendorf AFB, Tyndall AFB, and Nellis AFB, and blow that fat bastard out of the skies," said NORAD spokesman Gen. Buck Turgidson.

    In addition, Gen. Turgidson stated that there would be a limited test of National Missile Defense (NMD) tracking assets at various locations around the country. "Santa can deploy all the decoys he wants. We'll find him, we'll track him, we'll get him," Gen. Turgidson added.

    Military analysts have mentioned possible countermeasures Santa Claus might take to avoid NORAD radar, including a low-altitude, terrain-masking flight profile, radar-absorbant coating on his sleigh, and multiple layers of metal foil on Rudolph's nose to lessen the infrared signature.

    k.

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    1. Re:From CNN... by kfg · · Score: 2

      Can Santa get through? Listen, If Santa's good, I mean really good, hell YES he can get . . .

      "Bat" Guano, ( if that really is his real name), had no comment, other than to mutter something about Santa answering to the Coca-Cola company for trademark delution.

      KFG

  10. Re: Making Changes up North by SpringRevolt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, if it was me choosing an OS to organize a bunch of reindeer, I would have to trust to instinct and run with the Hurd.

    (Groan: -1 Corny :-)

  11. Damn /. editors! by nyet · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought /. was a REAL news source! How unprofessional! They didn't bother to do any fact checking on this story... I found out through a friend that Santa doesn't actually exist.

    Shame on you.

    1. Re:Damn /. editors! by Soko · · Score: 2

      found out through a friend that Santa doesn't actually exist.

      Actually, Santa is Canadian, so he only "doesn't exist" in the good ol' US of A. Shame on you for not believing in the /. editors, and Santa as well.

      "If it's in the New York Sun, It's true."

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  12. i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by MoceanWorker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Santa does not exist!!

    This is probably the best way to explain to your kids that he doesn't exist... i guess you could use this for the Easter rabbit as well :-\

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    1. Re:i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by Glytch · · Score: 2

      From the link:

      In comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second.

      The fastest what on where?

      Therefore, the rest of the link is bogus. Everyone knows that Santa can turn himself into a quantum waveform like a previous poster stated.

      In conclusion, you are a poopyhead and deserve a stocking full of coal.

  13. It's a scam! by choprboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I knew it! Just like the moon landing, this whole "Santa" thing is just a scam, filmed on some Hollywood movie lot. Look, I found the proof! Thru very careful hacking of the sites computer code (i.e., I read the html), I've managed to decipher the highly encrypted links (i.e., took a wild guess), and have found film footage that couldn't possibly exist yet if this whole "Santa" thing was real! According to this official "NORAD" site, "Santa"'s already finishing delivering present to Hawaii. It's still the middle of the afternoon there!

    http://santa.stream.aol.com/ramgen/aol/us/specia ls /2001/santatrack/28_en.rm

  14. Cross your fingers by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Hope Santa has his Oracard if NORAD stops him and asks about fruits or vegetables.

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  15. Re:NORAD has better things to do by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

    'Christmas' itself is nothing other than the Roman re-branding of the Saturnalia festival.

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  16. Some Christmas Fun off Our Friend the Internet by Raffi+Spock · · Score: 3, Offtopic

    SANTA CLAUS: An Engineer's Perspective
    I. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per house hold, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each.

    II. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second.

    This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second --- 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour.

    III. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting Santa himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of them --- Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

    IV. 600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second crates enormous air resistance --- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo.

    V. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now.

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  17. Santa must be out on Bail by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    As reported a couple of weeks ago, Santa was pulled in for questioning because of potentially suspicious activities in Canada. See this report in Yahoo.

    I understand he was held under lock and key, but he must of had a good lawyer and made bail. Although He'll now be in trouble for fleeing the jurisdiction.

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  18. Santa? Or SATAN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Santa Claus may be good fun for non-Christian children everywhere, but have you ever stopped to consider the effect that Santa's popularity has had on Jesus? Yes, Jesus Christ, who died for your sins and makes julienne fries, is now forced to wander the streets begging for spare change like some sort of Perl programmer.

    So when you're opening your shiny gifts from Santa tomorrow morning, think of Jesus. He's probably going to get frostbite for your sins, and then have to have his feet amputated for your sins, and go on prescription painkillers while receiving federal welfare for your sins. You fuckers!

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  19. Easy... by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of parents today, but what you do is spank the brother when he is bad, then he will not act so bad most of the time...

  20. Still Cam Shots from the Future! by thebabelfish · · Score: 3, Insightful
    To see still cam shots from the future (now how did they do that? :), replace 'XX' in the URL www.noradsanta.org/english/cam/santacamXX.html with any number from 01-29, inclusive. The locations the numbers correspond with (I think) are below, although somethings seems screwy (feel free to correct as the night progresses, I probably screwed up).
    1. Blip on NORAD radar (kinda)
    2. Blip (?) on NORAD satellite (sorta)
    3. Sydney Harbor
    4. Aleutian Islands
    5. Figi (Fugi?)
    6. Sydney Harbor (doesn't make sense!?)
    7. Mt. Fugi, Japan
    8. Malaysia
    9. Himalayas
    10. Taj Mahal, India
    11. Persian Gulf
    12. St. Basils, Moscow
    13. Finland
    14. South Africa
    15. Collosseum, Rome
    16. Eiffel Tower, Paris
    17. Stone Henge, England
    18. Brazil
    19. Newfoundland
    20. Over the USA
    21. Over the USA (yet again)
    22. Statue of Liberty, NYC
    23. White House
    24. Unidentifiable
    25. A shopping mall (?!?)
    26. The rockies (?)
    27. San Francisco (Los Angeles?)
    28. Hawaii (?)
    29. Hawaii (again?)
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    1. Re:Still Cam Shots from the Future! by Judg3 · · Score: 2

      24. is Reindeer Lake
      25. is Chicago
      26. is Colorado

      I'm not really authorized to tell you how I know. Let's just say I'm Santa's travel agent..

      DOH!

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  21. Defense by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Well, my son and I will sleep better tonight knowing that NORAD can survive the Slashdot effect!

    Merry Christmas everyone!

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  22. Pity the Dyslexic Child by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    Awake all night, terrified that Satan's going to come down the chimney...

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  23. Re:NORAD has better things to do by sunspot42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Er, wrong. Santa Claus is an Americanization of Sinterklaas, the Dutch name for Saint Nicholas. Saint Nicholas was one of the early Christians (he participated in the first Council of Nicaea), and went on to become one of the most famous and well regarded saints in all of Europe. His reputation for generosity and kindness gave rise to legends of miracles he performed for the poor and unhappy.

    Although the trappings associated with the modern Santa Claus legend date to the late 1800's and the American poem "Twas The Night Before Christmas" (flying reindeer, sleigh, chimney sliding and the red coat were all original creations of that poem), the concept is completely Christian in origin and far older, dating back almost to the time of Christ.

    Now, one could argue that Christmas *itself* isn't a Christian tradition, per se, since the early Christians simply co-opted the Roman holiday Saturnalia, a holiday far more like our modern Christmas than Christmas itself was up until about a hundred years ago, and one which involved festivals, a state holiday, a feast, lights and the exchange of gifts. Everything old . . .

  24. Re:Why RealMedia? by WirelessFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, lighten up, asshole. I think everyone in the U.S., especially the military, can use a little bit of compassion and fun in their lives right now.

    Geez... I was in the military myself and I still think this is very cool for children to witness. It's even cooler how it shows the family values side of our government.

  25. As noded into E2... by teleny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The NORAD Santa Report owes its existence to a typo in a local newspaper in Omaha,
    Nebraska. In the mid-Fifties, a local department store had an actor impersonating Santa Claus,
    that kids could call on Christmas Eve. (Presumably, the guy told the kids that "he'd be right over" and tell them to get to bed early.)

    Unfortunately, the number had one digit wrong, which yuppers, patched the rugrats into NORAD.
    The somewhat amused personnel, married and with kids themselves (as per regulation,
    according to then-current psychological theory) took to saying "Well, we're an Air Force base, not
    Santa Claus, but yes, we're tracking Santa right now."

    A few winters of this were enough to get everyone's story straight, and to retire the number (except for Santa reports). In 1958, they began releasing live reports to TV and radio stations, casting high-ranking (and often retired) officers asuld get a "full NORAD welcome" (of escorting state-of-the-art fighter jets) if seen over US airspace. Creepy, when you think of it...

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  26. Re:Santa -- the Dark Side by FFFish · · Score: 2

    And let's not forget Pratchett's "Hogfather," who delivered... ??? ... to the residents of DiscWorld.

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  27. Re:NORAD has better things to do by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You forgot to mention that our modern "image" of Santa Claus was created in (I think) the 1920's by an artist working on a Coca Cola advertising campaign.

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  28. Re:Deliberately lying to our children? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2

    I agree with the parent poster and am saddened, but not surprised, to see the post modded "flamebait." Apparently anyone who dares to criticize anything Christmas-y, even on a forum usually as progressive and freethinking as Slashdot, is eeevil and must be silenced. [sigh]

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  29. Re: Santa got a waiver from the feds by netringer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even though there is no more "Enhanced Class B" airpace in the U.S., Santa DID get permission to fly from the U.S. government.

    The Experimental Aircraft Association filed a flight waiver request for Santa which was granted by the Federal Aviation Administration.

    Earlier he got permission directly from U.S. Secretary of Transportation Norman Y. Mineta.

    In spite of this, Santa flies VFR (Visual Flight Rules) and it it is up to him to "see and avoid" other traffic in the air.

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