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Annual NORAD Santa Tracker Up And Running

SumDeusExMachina writes: "NORAD is at it once again folks! You can track Santa as he travels across the globe via a nifty Real Media stream." Apparently, this guy has been making some changes up North, too, including stealth technology, so I hope the radar tracks.

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  1. You are all gay... by canadian+troll · · Score: -1

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  3. frist pr0n post d00dz!!1!!~~~ by KingAzzy · · Score: -1

    She moaned as his cock slid home. Thick and long, she had been
    dreaming about his hard-on for weeks. When she left for college she
    hadn't known that Greg was bigger than most guys, but, based on the
    guys she'd tried at school, and the girls she'd talked to, he was.
    She could feel herself unwinding with each stroke. She really needed
    this boning. She matched his rhythm, pushing her hips up to meet his
    downstrokes. Her legs wrapped around him, her muscles flexing in time
    with his fucking, helping him drive it deep. She came hard, her cunt
    spasming around his rod, her body surging up against his.
    Greg was
    looking into her eyes when she came. She always opened her eyes at
    that moment. Her lust pushed him to the edge. He thrust into her
    several more times, then pushed in deep, cuming hard into Marcia's
    tight, hot pussy. He'd had other girls, but there was something
    special about Marcia. Tight, hot and gorgeous, he always came harder
    and longer when he fucked her. And she enjoyed it as much as he
    did. She really liked fucking and sucking his big, stiff prick.

    He pulled out of her and rolled off, his still erect cock slapping his
    stomach when he landed on his back. Marcia snuggled up against him,
    warm and happy. She reached for his cock, just holding it, stroking
    it slowly to keep it hard while they caught their breath. That was
    another great thing about Greg that she hadn't appreciated before. He
    never went soft right away, and never dropped off to sleep right
    after. He was always good for a second ride.

    She stroked his cock, squeezing on the upstroke. She could see the big
    purple head swell, she could feel the shaft throb occasionally. She
    slid toward his waist, put her left arm across his body, rested
    against his firm, flat stomach. His cock was only inches from her
    mouth. Her right hand wrapped around the base, gently squeezing. Her
    fingers massaged the area below his balls, causing his rod to swell
    even more, forcing a large drop of clear liquid out of his
    cockhole. Her tongue darted out, licking him clean. She loved the way
    he tasted. She opened her mouth wide and took him in. Her tongue
    played along the sensitive underside, her cheeks caved in around the
    head as she sucked. Several inches of shaft slid into her mouth as she
    sucked, but most of his tool remained on the outside. She had never
    been able to get much of his monster into her mouth, but she always
    tried. She began fisting his shaft, sucking on the upstroke, releasing
    on the down. When his hips began to buck beneath her she knew he was
    getting close. She began pumping him faster, sucking harder, literally
    jacking him off into her mouth. When she felt him swell she stroked
    him hard and fast, then just sucked as the hot cum shot out of his
    prick and into the back of her throat. She sucked and swallowed,
    drinking his jiz, wanting every drop. When he had finished she
    removed him from her mouth, then gently licked his shaft and head,
    making sure he was clean. This time Greg softened, but didn't go
    completely limp. He was enlarged, but not fully erect.

    Marcia turned toward him, moved one leg across his chest so that she
    straddled him, and moved her steaming snatch toward his waiting
    mouth. Greg's strong hands gripped her ass cheeks, pulling her towards
    him. His tongue pushed her cunt lips apart. She could feel him licking
    and sucking, feel his fingers and tongue probing her. Marcia stroked
    her small, firm tits, pinching the nipples, pulling on them. Her
    pussy throbbing, she pulled Greg's head tighter against her cunt. She
    knew she was losing control. His tongue flicked across her clit,
    triggering her orgasm, starting the avalanche that left her breathless
    and trembling.

    Bobby and Cindy were 14. While both had masturbated, neither was
    really sure what sex was all about. That's why they were hiding in the
    closet in Marcia's room. They had watched everything Greg and Marcia
    had done, and were more than ready to give it a try. Bobby's almost
    hairless cock had gotten hard before Greg had even mounted Marcia, and
    it was still hard. Cindy's virgin pussy was so wet her panties were
    soaked. As soon as Marcia and Greg were gone, they rushed out of the
    closet and fell onto the bed. They had stripped while they watched,
    but were too afraid of making noise to do anything.

    Bobby pulled Cindy close, kissed her eyes and mouth the way he'd seen
    Greg kiss Marcia. He moved down to Cindy's tiny, barely bulging
    titties and began to lick and suck the nipples. They hardened even
    more, which surprised him. He hadn't known that would happen.

    Cindy held Bobby's cock gently. It was her first, and she wasn't sure
    it wouldn't break. Bobby covered her hand with his and squeezed, then
    stroked his shaft, showing her how to jack his dick. She stroked it a
    few times on her own, liking the way it felt in her hand.

    They skipped the rest of the foreplay they had seen. Both were eager
    to fuck. But Cindy was a virgin, and they both knew a girls first fuck
    could be painful. Cindy liked Bobby, trusted him, wanted him to be her
    first. She lay on her back, her face framed by blond curls, her
    lightly haired snatch a slightly darker blonde. She spread her legs
    wide, fingered herself for a moment, letting Bobby look at her
    pussy. Bobby stretched out above her, his knees between her legs, his
    arms supporting his weight, his young, hard cock touching her
    belly. Cindy took hold of his tool, guided it to her cunt, helped him
    enter her. He entered slowly, stopping when Cindy flinched. He started
    to backup, not wanting to hurt her. She grabbed his ass with both
    hands, pulled him hard towards herself, felt a tearing pain in her
    cunt. She buried her face in his shoulder, stifling a scream. She
    told him not to move, told him that she had been told the pain would
    go away in a few minutes.

    Bobby lay quietly on top of her, not moving, feeling a pussy wrapped
    around his dick for the first time. It was so much better than his
    hand. He remained still, looking into Cindy's face, waiting. On
    impulse he kissed her again, pushing his tongue into her mouth. After
    a moment she responded, kissing back, tongue sliding over tongue.
    Cindy broke the kiss, began pushing her hips up against him, telling
    him it was ok. He began slowly, thinking that the pain might come
    back, and not wanting his cock to slip out. He pulled back slowly,
    thrust in slowly, watching her face all the time. She smiled when he
    was all the way inside, which Bobby took to mean he could fuck her the
    way Greg had fucked Marcia. Gradually he began to move faster, pumping
    his cock into her tight young pussy. She matched his rhythm, thrusting
    her hips in time with his thrusts.

    Cindy was going crazy. Her body had never felt like this before. Her
    nipples were on fire, her cunt muscles were rippling around the shaft
    inside it. She felt her whole body clench, felt herself thrust upward.
    She felt the spasms begin in her pussy, felt it tighten and relax
    around Bobby's prick. She fell into her orgasm, moaning and pounding
    her fists into Bobby's back, finally pulling him in as deep as
    possible, holding him there until she finished.

    Bobby began pounding hard now, his hips pistoning into the pussy
    beneath him. He could feel his cock swelling even more, feel it
    throbbing until finally he began to cum, pouring shot after shot into
    Cindy's tightness. Pumping hard, he pushed in ball deep and stayed
    there until his cock had emptied.

    They lay side by side, whispering together about the things each had
    felt. As they talked, Bobby got hard again. Time for round two. They
    had seen Marcia blow Greg, so they assumed the same positions, Cindy
    lying across Bobby.

    Bobby could feel her holding his cock, watched as the back of her head
    moved toward it. He felt something warm and wet touch the head, knew
    she was licking him. Her lips closed around the head, engulfing him in
    warmth. He could feel her tongue against his cock, feel the inside of
    her cheeks as she sucked.

    Cindy held it in her mouth. Her tongue explored it, tasting him, but
    she knew she was tasting herself, too. His cum and her pussy juice
    were still on his cock. She thought it tasted a little funny at first,
    but the more she licked, the more she liked. She began sucking in
    earnest, wanting more dick juice. As she sucked, she realized much
    more of Bobby's rod was sliding in and out of her mouth than Marcia
    had managed with Greg. In fact, a couple of times she was sure she had
    felt his balls banging her chin. The thought of being better at this
    than Marcia excited her, drove her try even harder. She started
    sucking harder, pulling most of it into her mouth every time. She
    discovered that if she held her head just right, she could take him
    into the back of her throat and hold him there, his entire cock in her
    mouth. She practised this, noticing the effect it had on Bobby, who
    was trying very hard to fuck her mouth. His hips kept thrusting upward
    whenever she sucked. She began sucking harder, pulling his cock in
    faster, then squeezing it with her lips on its way out. She was
    jacking him off with her mouth, in and out, fast and hard. She felt
    him tense beneath her, felt the cock in her mouth swell, and then he
    began to cum. It was hot in her mouth, with a tangy sort of taste and
    a creamy texture. She liked it hot. She swallowed and sucked, trying
    to get it all. When Bobby was done she released his cock, licking the
    shaft , cleaning it the way she had seen Marcia do it.

    They both heard the car pull in, which meant Marcia and Greg were
    back. They dressed quickly, then went out in the back yard.

    Jan and Peter were in the basement, fucking their little brains
    out. Peter's manic thrusting had already gotten Jan off several times,
    and was well on the way to getting her off again. This time Jan was on
    her hands and knees, her big boobs swinging as Peter slammed in and
    out of her juicy snatch. She loved doing the doggie, she always got
    off real good this way. Peter took long, hard strokes, pulling all the
    way back and slamming in, which was exactly the way Jan wanted it. He
    liked power fucking, and Jan liked being fucked that way. When her
    back arched Peter knew she was about to cum, so he drove it in as hard
    as he could and held it there, letting her spasm around his pole,
    feeling her cunt tighten and relax around him. When she finished he
    pulled out, still hard. She knew he would. The only time Peter would
    doggie fuck was when he got to plow her butt.

    His cock slick with pussy juice, he immediatly began easing it into
    her ass, pushing just hard enough to pop the head past her
    sphincter. He waited until he felt her relax, then pushed again,
    slipping almost half his shaft inside her. While he waited for her to
    relax again, he leaned forward, cupping her tits in his hands, mashing
    them up against her chest. He pinched a nipple, then lifted it toward
    her mouth, knowing she'd take it, knowing she liked sucking her own
    tits. As she mouthed her nipple he felt her relax, so he grabbed her
    hips and pulled her back, hard, while thrusting with his cock. He sank
    into her ass, all the way, his balls banging her cunt. He began
    fucking her butt, slowly, feeling it clamp down on him every time he
    moved inside her. Slowly and steadily, in and out, going ball deep
    with every stroke, he began building to his own orgasm. As it
    approached he began moving faster, his thrusts becoming almost manic.
    He shot deep in her ass, pulling her against him, holding her there
    while he emptied his balls.

    At dinner that evening they were all relaxed and cheerful, talking
    about the days events. Greg commented on how nice it was to have
    Marcia home from school for a couple weeks, Jan and Peter talked about
    cleaning up the basement, and Bobby and Cindy giggled alot. All in
    all, a typical family dinner.

    Several hours later Jan and Peter decided to sneak off to the basement
    again, for one last bang before bed. They reached the basement stairs
    unseen, and started down. Just as they reached the bottom step, Jan
    heard a sound. She thought it sounded like a moan, but wasn't sure.
    Peter went to investigate, taking a ball bat just in case. As he got
    closer to the boxes from behind which the sounds came, he began to
    grin. He knew the sounds of a blow job when he heard them. He
    signalled to Jan, telling her to come over, but quietly. Together they
    climbed up on a couple of the boxes, so they could look over the stack
    at the activity on the other side. They saw Cindy sucking off Bobby,
    deep throating him. As they watched, Bobby grabbed Cindy's head,
    thrust into her mouth, and began spurting. Cindy swallowed shot after
    shot, smiling and sucking at the same time.

    Before Cindy had the cock out of her mouth, Peter jumped down beside
    them. Laughing, he slapped Bobby on the back, then tousled Cindy's
    hair. Jan joined them, lifting Cindy to her feet and giving her a big
    hug, then pulling Bobby close and hugging him. Suddenly realizing that
    Jan and Peter had come down to the basement for the same reason they
    had, Bobby and Cindy relaxed. They weren't in trouble. With a big
    grin on his face, Peter asked the other three if the had ever heard of
    a daisy chain. They hadn't, so Peter went to a box hidden back in a
    corner and took out some porn magazines, one of which dealt with group
    sex. They looked at the pictures of fucking and sucking, then at each
    other. Without a word, Jan and Peter stripped, Peter's cock already
    hard and throbbing. Copying the positions they had seen in the
    magazine, the four formed a slightly squared circle, lying partially
    on their sides. Peter spread Cindy's pussy, licking her slit, then
    probing with his tongue. Cindy sucked the head of Bobby's cock,
    taking a couple of inches of shaft into her mouth.She looked along
    Bobby's body to his face, which was covered by Jan's ass and
    pussy. She could see his tongue licking and thrusting, could feel the
    same thing being done to her own cunt. It was a strange sensation,
    being eaten while watching a pussy being eaten. She sucked harder on
    the cock in her mouth. Jan had her mouth full of Peter's prick, trying
    to do what she had seen Cindy do, trying to deep throat a cock. It was
    difficult concentrating with Bobby tongueing her snatch, setting her
    on fire. The girls came at almost the same time, their bodys tensing,
    their thighs clenching around the heads between them. Peter pulled his
    rod from Jan's mouth, then stood up. He wanted Cindy, wanted to feel
    his pole in that tight pussy he had been eating. Bobby didn't mind,
    all he could think about were Jan's big tits, and the picture they had
    seen of a man fucking a pair of big boobs.

    Cindy lay on her back, legs spread wide. She watched Peter's cock as
    he prepared to mount her. It was a good deal bigger than Bobby's, both
    thicker and longer. Although she was juicy, Peter oiled his cock,
    knowing she had only had Bobby's. He stretched out above her, waiting
    for her to guide him in. She reached for him, her hand sliding along
    the shaft, rolling his balls around, then returning to the head, which
    she positioned at her slit. Peter pushed in, slowly but firmly, until
    his entire cock was inside her. He couldn't believe how tight she was,
    how hot she was. After a moment he began pumping, steadily and slowly,
    trying to make this fuck last.

    Jan was also on her back, but Bobby was sitting astride her stomach,
    squeezing her tits together, his hips pumping frantically. Jan had
    her mouth open, licking the cockhead any time it was close enough. As
    Peter watched, Bobby jerked, then began shooting on Jan's tits. It was
    amazing how much cum he had, considering he had already been sucked
    off once. Jan rubbed the cum into her tits, then pulled one to her
    mouth and began to clean it. She reached up and pulled Bobby down,
    kissing him, letting him taste himself on her lips. To her surprise,
    Bobby liked the taste, immediately licking her other tit clean
    himself.

    Cindy's eyes were open wide, her body screaming with lust. Peter's
    cock was reaching untouched spots within her, driving her over the
    edge. The tightness of Cindy's cunt pulled Peter closer, driving him
    toward his orgasm. They crested at almost the same time, Peter
    thrusting hard, Cindy clinging to him. Their mingled moans were loud
    in the quiet basement. They clung to each other, gasping for breath
    from the intensity of their mutual oragsms. Finally they separated,
    momentarily spent.

    The four of them lay together, relaxing, talking about the sex,
    kissing and holding each other. Being young, it wasn't long before
    they were ready to go again. Surprisingly, it was Bobby who was hard
    first. Jan showed him some of the pictures in the magazines, of men
    mounting women from behind, and told him she loved doing it that
    way. She rolled to her stomach, then got to her hands and knees,
    pushing her soft, full butt into Bobby. Moving against her, Bobby
    quickly entered , sliding all the way in. Matching the slow, steady
    rhythm with which Jan was pushing back against him, Bobby began
    fucking. He was determined that she would cum before he would. Peter
    grew hard as he watched them fuck. Seeing this, Cindy lay her head in
    his lap, his cock standing up between her chin and throat. She began
    nuzzling it, playing with it with her lips and tongue. Peter sighed,
    reached for her pussy and began playing with it, inserting one finger,
    then a second. Cindy kissed his cockhead, then slowly began
    swallowing him. It was a tight fit, but she managed it, deep throating
    his now fully erect dick. Quite a talented little girl. This talent
    gave Peter an idea. He extracted himself from her mouth, grabbed a
    couple of boxes, and fixed a place for Cindy to lay, on her back, head
    hanging off the boxes. Some guy had face fucked Vanessa Del Rio this
    way in a movie had seen.

    Her head hanging, mouth open, throat relaxed, Cindy waited for Peter's
    cock. When the head was inside her mouth she closed her lips and began
    to suck, pulling him inside even further. With her eyes open she could
    see his cock slowly disappearing, and of course she could feel it in
    her mouth.

    Peter continued to push slowly, unable to believe someone as small as
    Cindy could truly swallow his entire cock.

    When his balls hit her nose, Cindy knew she had done it. She exhaled
    through her nose, blowing across his balls,causing him to shudder. She
    could see his asshole, could see the big muscles in his ass clench. He
    pulled out, then pushed in again, a little faster than before. Cindy
    relaxed, breathing in when he withdrew, exhaling on his balls and
    asshole.

    Peter was ecstatic. Never in his short life had he felt anything like
    this. He began thrusting faster, pumping in and out of her face. Her
    hands began massaging his ass, making small circles on his butt
    cheeks. Then her hands went to her pussy, spread her lips, began
    slipping inside. She finger fucked her pussy while Peter fucked her
    mouth.Her fingers moved faster, her breath shortened, her body
    strained upward when her orgasm hit, pushing him over the edge. He
    pulled out of her, pointed his cock at her firm, tiny boobs, and
    exploded shot after shot across her chest and stomach.

    As her own orgasm subsided she felt Peter pull out of her, then felt
    hot cum splattering across her body. She opened her eyes, watched as
    his cock finished spurting, then pulled it back to her mouth, where
    she licked it clean. Jan and Bobby had already finished, and now Jan
    joined Cindy, licking Peter's shaft, then kissing Cindy, tasting the
    cum in her mouth. Jan broke the kiss, began licking cum off Cindy's
    chin and throat, working down to her tits. She cleaned one nipple,
    then the other, taking her time.

    Realizing that the four of them had been down there quite a while, and
    being pretty well satiated, they dressed and went back upstairs. They
    split up, the girls going to the upstairs bathroom to clean up, the
    guys using the one on the ground floor.

    As they showered, Jan and Cindy talked. Jan mentioned that Peter had
    the biggest cock she had seen, which was one of the reasons she liked
    fucking him. Cindy was quiet a moment, then admitted that Peter was
    the biggest she'd had inside her, but that she had seen a larger one,
    Greg's. Then she told Jan about hiding in the closet with Bobby,
    watching Marcia and Greg fuck. Their shower finished, the girls went
    downstairs, where they joined the others in the TV room. When Peter
    went to the kitchen to make popcorn, Jan followed. She told him what
    Cindy had told her about Marcia and Greg. They agreed they would try
    to find a way to involve all six of them in some hot and heavy action.

    Early the next morning, after Mom and Dad had left for work, Greg and
    Marcia were having breakfast. Nobody else was awake yet, so they had
    the whole ground floor to themselves. Marcia was wearing a thin robe,
    and when she stepped between Greg and the light it became obvious she
    wasn't wearing anything else. She went to the refrigerator, bending
    slightly to look for something. Greg came up behind her, lifted the
    hem of her robe, pulled her back against him. Reaching around her, he
    pulled her robe open, thrust his hands inside and covered her tits,
    her nipples between two of his fingers. He squeezed the nipples,
    pinching them, rubbing the tips when they hardened.

    Marcia could feel his cock against her ass, gradually hardening and
    lengthening. She reached behind herself, groping him through his thin
    pajamas, then reaching through the pajama fly and fondling his
    balls. She released him, then turned around and kissed him, thrusting
    her tongue into his mouth.

    Greg returned her kiss, then peeled her robe off. He lifted her in his
    arms, lifted her high enough to kiss her titties, then suck on
    them. Without another word he took her to the kitchen table, turned
    her away from him and bent her over the table. He put his cock against
    her pussy lips, spread them slightly with his fingers, then plunged in
    completely, spearing her with his massive tool. He heard her grunt,
    then moan. He began pumping, pulling back slowly, then slamming
    forward as hard as he could. She would grunt every time he thrust, and
    moan every time he withdrew. He was deep in her pussy, just short of
    cumming, when the kitchen door opened and Peter walked in. They froze,
    not knowing what to do. Peter was startled, but recovered quickly. He
    walked to the refrigerator, poured himself a glass of juice, and then
    went to the table and sat down. He smiled at Greg and Marcia, then
    told them he liked to watch. Marcia giggled, then wiggled her ass at
    Greg, who was still inside, but no longer fully erect. She rippled the
    muscles in her pussy, helping Greg regain his erection. When he was
    hard he began fucking her again, stroking long and deep, again drawing
    grunts from Marcia. Peter watched for a few minutes, drinking his oj,
    then reached into his shorts and pulled out his cock. He pushed back
    from the table, far enough that Marcia could see him, and started
    fisting his cock, stroking and squeezing. He knew that if he could get
    involved in the fuck happening in front of him, getting a group thing
    going with all six of them would be easy. He stared at Marcia's closed
    eyes, hoping she would open them. When she did, finally, he grinned at
    her, then stroked his cock, hard , pointing it at her face. She
    answered his grin with one of her own, then nodded her head. Peter was
    out of his chair like a shot, and up on the table. He slid toward
    Marcia, his cock pointing at the ceiling. Marcia raised up on her
    elbows, lifting her face high enough for Peter to rest his prick
    against her mouth. At first she just lipped it, giving it quick little
    kisses, moving up and down the shaft. Then she took the head in her
    mouth, her tongue massaging it. She sucked on the head, then slid down
    the shaft, taking most of him into her mouth. Her head bobbed up and
    down on his rod, in time with Gregs cock thrusting in and out of her
    pussy.

    Marcia came first, pulling off Peter's cock, moaning and writhing on
    the kitchen table. When she finished Greg pulled out of her, picked
    her up, and carried her to the couch in the frontroom, Peter following
    along behind, cock bouncing up and down with every step.

    Marcia told Greg to lay on the couch, then climbed on top of him. With
    one hand she held his cock, with the other she spread her pussy
    lips. She lowered herself onto his tool, slowly, savoring the feel of
    it going in, enjoying the power she felt being in control of the
    fuck. When she was all the way down, nothing but Gregs balls showing,
    she looked at Peter, then at her ass, then back at Peter to see if he
    got the message. He did. He made a mad dash for the kitchen, poured
    some oil on his hands and cock, then hurried back to the couch.
    Marcia was in mid-ride, her ass pistoning up and down, Gregs huge cock
    appearing and disappearing. Peter climbed onto the couch, took hold of
    Marcia's hips, and pushed against her asshole. He pushed hard, the oil
    on his cock lubricating her butt. Her hole relaxed suddenly, allowing
    him to slip inside. About two thirds of his shaft went in on that
    first plunge. He was surprised when she didn't tense up. He always had
    to wait for Jan to get used to him being in her ass. He pushed again,
    slipping the rest of the way in, his balls touching Gregs, who was
    completely inside Marcia's pussy. Greg lifted Marcia slightly, enough
    so that he could slide out, then ram back in. He started fucking,
    long, hard strokes, the kind that drove Marcia crazy. Peter could
    feel him doing it, feel it in his own cock every time Greg
    thrust. Peter began his ass fuck, imitating Greg, pulling almost out
    and then thrusting back in all at once. Marcia was moaning, writhing
    madly between the boys, driven almost crazy with lust. Peter felt her
    orgasm begin, felt her ass squeeze tight as her pussy spasmed around
    Greg's cock. Buried deep in her ass, he felt Greg thrust in hard, felt
    him swell, felt his cock jerking and shooting inside her, so close to
    his own. He thrust a couple more times, then started shooting
    himself. He pumped shot after shot into her ass, feeling completely
    drained when he was done.

    Marcia went upstairs to shower, leaving Greg and Peter to clean up
    downstairs. They walked back to the kitchen, stood by the sink and
    soaped up their dicks, washing them clean. Peter figured this was as
    good a time as any to tell Greg about the others. The results were
    everything he had hoped for. When he talked about Cindy's cocksucking
    talents Greg's meat began to swell.

    Greg was surprised at himself. He'd cum twice in the last hour, and
    now hearing about 14 year old Cindy sucking cock was giving him
    another erection. Hell of a way to start a day. Greg hung his rod in
    the sink, grabbed the rinser, and sprayed warm water across his cock,
    balls, and stomach, rinsing off the soap. Just as he finished Jan and
    Cindy walked in.

    Both girls stopped dead in their tracks. Of all the things they might
    have expected first thing in the morning, Peter and Greg standing
    naked in the kitchen with semi-erect cocks was way down the list. Jan
    reacted first. Her hands went to her breasts, began massaging them
    through the mens shirt she wore to bed. Cindy licked her lips, pushed
    one hand through the fly of the boys pajamas she still wore every
    night. She rubbed her pussy, one finger slipping between the lips,
    spreading them.

    By now the boys were fully erect. Without a word they went to the
    girls. Greg stopped in front of Jan, pulled her to him, and kissed her
    long and hard. His hands went to her ass, which he massaged while his
    tongue probed her mouth. When the kiss was finished he backed off a
    step, pulled her shirt over her head and tossed it aside. Her tits
    were magnificent. Full and round, they jutted out from her ribs with
    almost no sag. Greg moved close, lifted her in his arms, and carried
    her to the table, the same table he had fucked Marcia on less than an
    hour ago. He sat her on the table, pulled up a chair, and started
    licking and sucking her boobs. Breakfast was finally ready.

    Peter had pulled Cindy to the floor, stripped off her shirt, and was
    sucking her hard little nipples. He had one hand inside her pajama
    bottoms, frigging her cunt, making sure she was wet enough to fuck. He
    mounted her there, not even removing the pajamas, fucking her through
    the same hole she had used to rub herself.

    Greg had moved down to Jan's pussy. His mouth was pushed tight against
    her, his tongue going in and out, his hands squeezing her ass. He
    pulled away, stood up, pushed her down on her back and spread her
    legs.

    Jan watched as Greg moved up between her thighs. She had never even
    seen anything as big, much less had it inside her. His strong hands
    gripped her ankles, raising her feet to his. He pulled her closer to
    the edge of the table, then looked into her eyes. She felt his
    cockhead spreading her pussy lips, then he pushed, gently, only moving
    a couple of inches into her. She looked into his eyes, then, silently
    telling him to give her more, to fuck her completely. He slid his
    hands down her legs to her thighs, then to her hips. He got a firm
    hold on her, then drove into her with all his power, forcing himself
    all the way in.

    Greg began to piston Jan's snatch, fucking her the way Marcia liked
    it, with long, hard strokes. With every stroke her tits bounced toward
    her face, then came back when he pulled out. Jan must have noticed
    where he was looking, or maybe just liked playing with them, because
    she grabbed her own boobs and began massaging them, rolling them with
    her hands, tweaking the nipples to make them even harder. As he
    watched, pump ing into her, she pulled her right breast to her mouth,
    licked her nipple, then took it between her lips and sucked on it. Greg had never seen a woman suck her own tits; it was more then he could
    handle right then. With a grunt he buried himself in her snatch just
    as she let out a long moan. She tensed, her body arching up off the
    table. He pushed in deep, then let loose with a shattering orgasm,
    his cock jerking time after time. When he was finished he pulled her
    to a sitting position and kissed her again, long and hard.

    Cindy was thrashing about on the floor, in the middle of her second
    orgasm, Peter still rock hard and pumping. While Jan and Greg
    watched, Peter pulled out of her and turned her over. He stretched out
    on top of her, his cock resting between her butt cheeks. While Cindy
    was still relaxed, Peter pushed his bone against her asshole, slipping
    almost halfway in.

    Cindy was exhausted, left limp by the force of her orgasms. She simply
    went with it when Peter turned her over, expecting him to mount her
    from behind. His rod was hot against her ass, slick with her own
    juices, and she could feel it throbbing. She felt him sliding it back,
    and was waiting for him to fill her pussy again. When he pushed through her asshole she was surprised, but didn't have the energy to
    fight it. Later she found out that assfucking sometimes hurt, but
    right now there was no pain. She stayed relaxed, and allowed Peter his
    way. After all, he had already gotten her off twice.

    Peter thrust again, burying his bone in Cindy's tight little ass. She
    was tighter than any hole he had ever been in. He pulled back slowly,
    then pushed it in again, all in one stroke. His pace increased, her
    tightness and subservience making him harder and hotter.

    Jan slid from the table, dropping to her knees in front of Greg. She
    took his cum-coated prick into her mouth, licking and sucking,
    cleaning it while also causing it to stiffen again. They watched
    Peter pounding in and out of Cindy's ass, watched as he buried his
    log in her butt and jerked spasmodically, watched him collapse atop
    her when his orgasm finished.

    Bobby woke with a piss-hardon, climbed out of bed and headed for the
    bathroom. He was standing about two feet away from the toilet, aiming
    his stream into the bowl when Marcia walked in. She had forgotten her
    cosmetics bag after her shower, and didn't realize anyone was in the
    bathroom. She stopped dead, staring at the boy's erection. Bobby was
    startled by her presence, but there wasn't much he could do about
    it. The longer she stared, though, the more it excited him.

    Marcia stared at Bobby's hardon, watching it. At first it was
    softening as the piss left, but as sh e watched it began to stiffen
    again. She had never seen such a smooth cock, or balls so nearly
    devoid of hair. When he finished she moved towards him, reaching for
    his balls. She wasn't really horny, Greg and Peter had taken care of
    that, but Bobby's balls were practically calling her. Her fingers
    itched to feel the soft fuzz, to cradle his young balls, to fondle
    them. She dropped to her knees before him, stroking his cock with one
    hand, rolling his balls with the other. She pulled his foreskin back,
    marveling at the velvety smoothness of his shaft. Without a word she
    took him into her mouth. She sucked the head, licked it, while fisting
    the shaft with one hand and holding his balls with the other.

    Bobby was taken completely by surprise. He was barely awake, and he
    was already being blown. He throbbed in Marcia's mouth, then dropped
    his hands to her head, pulled her against him, and began to shoot. He
    shot hard, but not very long. Everything had happened so fast, he
    hadn't even been hard more than a couple minutes.

    Marcia swallowed the hot, sticky cum spewing into her mouth, and
    continued to suck. She wanted him to stay hard, wanted him to fuck
    her right there in the bathroom. When he was fully erect again she
    stood up, turned her back to him, and bent over, resting her hands on
    the toilet cover. Bobby pushed her robe up out of the way, moved up
    against her butt, and sunk his pole into her pussy.

    His hands gripping her hips, Bobby began fucking, moving in and out
    slowly and steadily, wanting this to last much longer than the blow
    job had. Marcia was just as tight as Cindy, even if she was older. He
    continued his slow, steady fucking, helping Marcia build toward her
    own orgasm. When she began to moan and gasp he increased his tempo,
    thrusting harder and faster, matching his rythm to her moans, matching
    the frenetic pace she was setting, pushing back against him. She was
    bringing him to his exploding point, even as he was driving her to her
    own. With one final push backward, she impaled herself on his cock. He
    could feel her cunt clenching and releasing. With a sigh he thrust one
    more time, then gave himself over to his own orgasm. He flooded her
    cunt, their juices mixing and coating his cock.

    Marcia slid slowly back down the hill, coming back to life. When Bobby
    pulled out she turned to him, pulled him close, and kissed him
    passionately. They showered together, then dressed and went
    downstairs. They walked into the kitchen just as Greg began to shoot,
    his cum filling Jan's mouth and dribbling out onto her chin.

    The four sweaty kids went to shower while Marcia and Bobby fixed
    breakfast. The way this day had started, everybody needed a big
    breakfast.

    Bobby, Cindy, Peter, and Jan all left for school. Bobby and Cindy were
    both in their first year at high school, Peter was a junior, and Jan
    was a senior, due to graduate in a couple of months. Bobby had gym 1st
    period, as did his best friend Tom. While they were dressing Bobby
    told him about getting laid the day before, although he was careful
    not to mention who he had fucked. Greg had made it plain what would
    happen if word of their "family affair" got out. Being 14 years old,
    this conversation gave both boys a boner, even though Bobby had
    already gotten off twice that morning. While neither boy was gay, and
    had never touched the other, they had masturbated together, and now
    seemed like a great time. They ducked out of the boys locker room the
    back way, going through the coach's office, and got into a plumbing
    access area that not many students knew about. Tom's dad was the
    plumber the school hired, though, and Tom sometimes had to work with
    his dad on weekends, so he ha d been there before. That was how he
    knew about the flashlight that was hanging just inside the entrance.

    As soon as they were inside bot h boys stripped off their shorts and
    began tugging on their cocks, Tom asking Bobby to tell him again about
    getting laid. Bobby was a little nervous about talking so close to the
    door, so they moved into the passageway, stroking their dicks as they
    wa lked. They hadn't gone very far when they heard voices, girls
    voices, from somewhere up ahead. Bobby was the first to realize that
    the sounds were coming through the wall, and that they must be
    alongside the girls locker room or shower. It was funny, but the
    voices seemed to be loudest in spots, and the spots were marked by
    large pieces of drywall l eaning against the opposite wall. Both boys
    were stumped, standing there butt-naked, holding their cocks in one
    hand, listening to the voices. Tom was s hining the flashlight over
    the wall, when a sudden twinkle caught both their eyes. Investigating,
    they discovered a hinge, fitted flush and covered with dirt. A little
    searching uncovered a second, slightly higher hinge. Something was
    here, but how di d it open? Bobby had an idea. He grabbed a piece of
    the cut out drywall and held it against the wall with one edge lined
    up with the hinge. Sure enough, feeling around at the other edge his
    fingers found a very small indentation in the wood. About the right
    size for a nail to be inserted, of which there were plenty lying
    around. When they finally pried it open it was every thing they had
    hoped. They were looking directly into the girls locker room. It was
    empty at the moment, but in 20 minutes or s o a class would be
    finishing and there would be 30 or so sophmore girls showering and
    dressing. Bobby had only seen two-way mirrors on TV, but he figured
    that's what they were looking through. Plus the fact they were looking
    out over sinks and counter s. They went to each of the cut out pieces
    of drywall and found the same thing, small doors tha t looked through
    mirrors into the girls locker room. The last two were even more
    surprising. One was the mirror in the women's coaches office, and the
    last was in the girls shower. Neither of them had even known ther was
    a mirror in the shower. There certainly wasn't in any shower they had
    ever been in.

    Gym class was over, and 30 sweaty girls poured into the locker
    room. As they watched the gi rls strip their cocks thickened and
    lengthened. Neither had ever seen so many tits, asses, an d pussies
    before. Bobby stroked his cock, watching Sandy Morgan strip. She was
    the best built girl in school, with tits even bigger than Jan's. He
    followed he r in the mirrors, watching her jugs bounce and swing as
    she walked to the shower. His cock t hrobbing, he slowly jerked
    himself off, watching her lather her tits, squishing them under her
    hands, rolling them around, making sure they were clean. She wash ed
    her stomach, then slid the soap between her thighs and scrubbed her
    pussy. Next was her ass, which she washed with both hands, which made
    her boobs stick out even further. Bobby slowed his pumping, not
    wanting to cum to soon. He fondled his balls, rolled them between his
    fingers, massaged his rod with both hands. He watched her towel he
    rself off, then begin to dress. She pulled on a pair of pink lace
    panties, then the matching bra. Bobby was just about to switch to
    another girl when Sandy started walking straight toward him. She came
    to the mirror he was behind, set down a little bag, and began to
    apply her makeup. She wasn't more than a foot away, and she was in her
    underwear. With a low groan Bobby began to cum, spurting thick,
    creamy goo at the wall, all the while staring at Sandy's lace covered
    boobs. When he was finished Bobby looked around for Tom, who was down
    at the shower. He watched as his friends cock began to squirt, the cum
    splattering against the wall. The boys quickly clos ed the shutters,
    rubbing dirt on the hinges, then headed back. They both had Math 2nd p
    eriod, and that was one class you had better not be late for.

    Greg was deep in Marcia's pussy, enjoying the quiet of the house and
    the warmth of her cunt . Group fucks were fun, but Greg really liked
    boning Marcia one-on-one. The others would be home later, but for now
    it was his cock, her cunt and plenty of time.

    Carol entered the house through the kitchen. They had closed a major
    deal at work, and to celebrate they had given everybody the rest of
    the day off. She was heade d for the stairs and a shower when she
    heard a groan coming from the TV room. She walked to the half-open
    door and peeked inside, not really sure what she would see, but not
    expecting to see her oldest daughter and her step-son fucking on the
    couch. She was stunned, and completely at a loss. She felt she should
    protest, but they weren't really related, and they were both old
    enough to make up their own minds. As she watched Greg pulled out,
    stroked his shaft several times, then began to cum on Marcia's snatch
    and stomach. When he finished he rubbed his cock in the gooey mass on
    her belly, then slid it slowly back into her cunt.

    Without realizing it, Carol was becoming aroused. The longer she
    watched, the harder her nipples became. Her hands pressed against her
    stomach, then slid upward to her breasts. She massaged them through
    her blouse and bra, rolling and squeezing them. Her fingers flew
    throu gh the buttons, then opened the blouse. She cupped her boobs,
    bra and all, then slid her fingers inside the bra, lifting each tit
    clear and allowing them to hang over the bracups. While her left hand
    continued to play with her boobs, her right began its slow, sensual
    descent down her stomach, heading for her pussy. She pressed her silk
    panties against her mound, then slipped a finger inside and stroked
    her pussy lips.

    She watched as Marcia suddenly lunged up against Greg, her body taut,
    every muscle spasming with the force of her orgasm. When she finally
    subsided Greg pulled out, still rock hard, and told Marcia to lean
    against the back of the couch so he could fuck her doggy style. As she
    watched Greg enter her daughter from behind, Carol lifted her skirt,
    bunching it around her waist, and removed her soaked panties. Watching
    Greg and Marcia fuck, she began alternately rubbing her pussy and
    finger-fucking it. She couldn't remember the last time she had been
    this hot. When her orgasm hit she leaned against the door frame, a
    loud moan escaping from her throat.

    Greg and Marcia were startled by the sudden moan coming from behind
    them. Greg pulled out and turned quickly, then froze when he saw his
    step-mother leaning ag ainst the door, her clothes in disarray, two
    fingers in her snatch. There had never been any doubt in his mind
    that he would fuck his step-mother one day, and he wasn't going to let
    this incredible opportunity get away. He moved toward Carol, stopping
    in front of her and dropping to his knees. He pulled her fingers from
    her snatch and pushed his face against her, burying his tongue as
    deeply as he could in her hot, slick pussy. She responded as he had
    hoped she would, her fingers locking in his hair and pulling him hard
    into her. He could hear her whimpering as he alternately licked,
    sucked, and tongue fucked her cunt.

    Carol knew she shouldn't do this, but the mouth on her pussy felt so
    good, and it had been such a long time since she had been eaten. She
    felt herself peaking again, and all thought fled. She gave herself to
    her orgasm, her body tingling with power.

    Greg stood up, still gripping her ass, and lifted her easily. Her legs
    opened, wrapped around him as he had known they would. He lowered her
    to his cock, leaned her against the wall, and thrust upward as hard
    as he could, slamming his long, thick prick into her all at once. He
    held her there, fucking as hard as he could, uncaring about anything
    except the fire in his balls. He thrust as deeply as possible into
    Carol's pussy, his body smashed against hers, and pumped his hot,
    gooey load into her.

    Carol felt the cock inside her explode. Mike had never cum this
    intensely in all the years they had been married. It was unlike any
    fuck she had ever experienced, this huge cock erupting inside her. She
    slid over the edge, her third orgasm shattering her, ripping long, low
    moans from her.

    Marcia watched the two of them come back to rea lity. Her fingers
    danced across her pussy, stroking and thrusting, keeping her
    aroused. She saw Greg pull out of her mother, take her by the hand,
    and lead her to the couch.

    Carol sat next to her daughter, a little afraid of what she knew was
    coming, but aroused enough to go with it. She hadn't been with a
    nother woman since college. Marcia stroked Carol's thigh, then leaned
    toward her pressed her lips to her mothers'. Carol's mouth opened
    slowly, allowing Marcia's tongue inside. With her eyes closed, Carol
    couldn't tell the difference between her daugh ters tongue and any
    other she had played with. When she responded to the kiss Marcia came
    into her arms, plastering her body against her mothers.

    Marcia broke the kiss, and began the slide downwards, kissing and
    licking Carols full, round boobs, then tonguing her way down her
    stomach. She slid to the floor, spread her mothers legs, and buried
    her face in hot, steamy pussy.

    Greg stood beside them, playing with his cock, watching Marcia eat the
    cunt he had so recently been fucking. He was at that strange stage,
    not hard enough to fuck, really, but too hard to put it away. He knew
    how to take care of that. Stepping up behind Marcia, he straddled her,
    moved close to the couch, and reached for Carol. His fingers wrapped
    in her hair, then he pulled her close and rubbed his cock against her
    face. Carol removed one hand from Marcia's hair and took hold of the
    prick in her face, guiding it to her mouth. She sucked the head into
    her mouth, working it with her tongue. Greg stood still, allowing
    Carol to suck him any way she wanted.

    Carol had never had a bone this big in her mouth. She sucked several
    inches in, then rubbed the underside of the head with her tongue. A
    sudden stiffening told her how Greg felt. She sucked harder, then
    circled it with her free hand and began pumping it, back and forth,
    sucking each time she stroked toward her mouth. She felt it stiffen
    some more, and knew it was ready. She wanted to be fucked by that
    monster dick again.

    Greg pulled away from Carol, lifted Marcia to the couch, and draped
    her across the back, butt up. He turned Carol around, and layed her
    next to Marcia. He stroked the two pussies, then moved up against
    Carol and pushed his rod into her. He fucke d her slowly, thrusting
    all the way in and pulling all the way back. After 10 strokes he
    pulled out and entered Marcia, fucking her the same way. He stayed in
    Marcia, gradually picking up speed, until he was fucking her the way
    he always did, fast an d hard. He wanted Carol to see her daughter get
    off, and he wanted to be the cock getting her off. When Marcia began
    banging back against him he knew she was getting close. He thrust
    harder, driving deep. He could feel her hot juices flowing around his
    pole, could feel her cunt clenching and relaxing. When it was over he
    pulled out, grabbed Carol by the hips, and slammed home in one
    stroke. He fucked her the way he had earlier, all power and speed,
    banging against her soft ass with each stroke. He managed to hold
    himself back until her orgasm began, then he pumped another load deep
    into his step-mother's pussy.

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    1. Re:frist pr0n post d00dz!!1!!~~~ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Merry Christmas to you too.

  4. All your nigger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    are belong to us.

  5. good ol gov't by localh0st · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    hooah to stealth tech

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  6. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    This is a stupid article.

  7. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    and santa can suck my fucking cock

    what a waste of time, 'ooh lets pretend to track santa' grow the fuck up and get a life you cock suckers

  8. My kid is 2 and already knows this santa stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    is fake crap. Why are we spending any money on this BS at all? Save the money and go feed some homeless and foodless people during the holidays.

    1. Re:My kid is 2 and already knows this santa stuff by Retarded_One · · Score: -1

      Your kid is probably retarded. You should send him to the looney bin, and tell him it is because he was naughty.

  9. Nice treat for young kids in the new age by buff_pilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    My 4 year old daughter was spun up due to all the Christmas excitement. We were having trouble getting her to sleep until we showed her where santa was on the map - he's getting close! So off to bed she went without a peep.

    1. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by mwillems · · Score: 3, Funny

      My 7 year old son just went through the same. Go to www.cnn.com and follow the "Norad tracks Santa" link. Finally, a use for tracking technology!

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    2. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by matrix29 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My 4 year old daughter was spun up due to all the Christmas excitement. We were having trouble getting her to sleep until we showed her where santa was on the map - he's getting close! So off to bed she went without a peep.

      Dad: "See little Susie, there's Santa and he's heading right for us."

      Susie: "Thank you daddy. I love you." (Kisses father on the cheek and goes off to bed followed by her brother)

      Older brother: "Susie."

      Susie: "What?"

      Brother: "NORAD tracks nuclear missles. Something is heading for our house and it's measured by megaton nuclear detonations and our entire town painfully burning to radioactive cinders. Goodnight Susie."

      Susie: "?!?" "?!?" "!!!" "DAD!!!"

      (And this is supposed to make children comfortable - HOW?!?)

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    3. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by Chester+K · · Score: 4, Funny

      What are the privacy implications of this? I mean, it's beyond question that the benefits of such powerful tracking benefit children the world over, but are we one step away from this technology being used on us?

      Will some day Big Brother turn to the "NORAD Tracks Chester K" website to find out where I am? I shiver at the thought. We need to write our Senators and Representatives and alert them to this horrible encroachment on our privacy -- this powerful tracking techonology must be shackled to prevent illicit use by the government.

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    4. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      My guess is that we only need to worry if people start to fly around in a big bright red vehicle with a red-nosed reindeer leading the way. And in such case, I want NORAD tracking all those nut-cases.

    5. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

      Heh, my 5 yr and 8yr just now both fell asleep minutes ago. We also visited the noradsanta.com site to convince them to turn in. Worked like a charm

    6. Re:Nice treat for young kids in the new age by buff_pilot · · Score: 1

      Can somebody explain the insanity of the mod system on /.? In the span of 16 hours, my initial post on this subject went from (5 insightful) to (4 Troll)... I don't see how folks can assume I'm trolling...

      There be some warped minds out there...

  10. I think I am the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    First post!

    ha ha!

  11. Bit silly, but... by mwillems · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ...but the point is well taken. Nowhere do we go nowadays without being observed. England, once the most liberal country in te world, where cops could not stop you unless they had a good readon to do so, is now the most big brotherish country in the world. Orwell was British - no surprise. My kids here in Canada wil have - no, already have - significantly less freedom that I used to have. "Nothing to fear unless you are a criminal" - that argument is still heard all over the place every day. As it was in Nazi days. Dobn;t want to sound alarmist, but we really have to worry about all this.

    I would say just a *little* pushback from all of us would help greatly. Does your bank really need that social insurance number? Perhaps asking "am I really legally oliged to give you this" whenever you are asked to produce ID would be a good step?

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    1. Re:Bit silly, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Holy christ lighten the fuck up and go get laid.

    2. Re:Bit silly, but... by fenix+down · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Amen, brother.

    3. Re:Bit silly, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Yah, no shit. This guy must be taking too much vallium or something.

    4. Re:Bit silly, but... by alexmogil · · Score: 1

      I.... *think* this belongs in the 'Sousveillance' topic.

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    5. Re:Bit silly, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well.. it is true. You dont have anything to fear unless you are a criminal. You break the law, and you pay the price. Its more than enough to deter most people (including myself) to be a relatively law abiding citizen :)

  12. How can you track santa? by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Everyone knows santa uses the principals of quantum mechanics to be in every house at the same time delivering gifts.

    How would tracking by radar be possible?

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    1. Re:How can you track santa? by madcoder47 · · Score: 0

      its NORAD... what can't they track?

    2. Re:How can you track santa? by MegaGremlin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Which explains why he can't come if your awake. If you see him, He'll be stuck at your house.

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    3. Re:How can you track santa? by sg_oneill · · Score: 2

      Hehe. It reminds me of when I was a kid, and confronting my father on how on earth the big guy was supposed to visit EVERY child on earth

      It was simple, I was explained; Santa travels so damn fast that time and space warp right around him and he just kinda surfs the curvature of spacetime into every chimney in town

      Of course it's a pretty silly explaination that really has nothing to do with relativity at all, but for a six year old I believe it worked for me.

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    4. Re:How can you track santa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1
      its NORAD... what can't they track?

      Ask the people in the World Trade Center.

    5. Re:How can you track santa? by madcoder47 · · Score: 0

      I am quite certain that NORAD could track those planes, however, the government lacks any method of stopping (steering/taking control of) planes remotely. in the case of the WTC, its not a radar problem, its the lack of nationwide airspace security

  13. NORAD has better things to do by perdida · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    than trick kids into believing in Santa.

    Really, there are people who will call this an evidence of the U.S. crusade against Muslims, because we don't track the Ramadan Fairy, just Santa Claus.

    1. Re:NORAD has better things to do by yasth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Santa is not a Christian tradition, per se. Indeed he is quite secular.

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    2. Re:NORAD has better things to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      besides muslims are garbage and are going to be wiped out.

    3. Re:NORAD has better things to do by Retarded_One · · Score: -1

      I don't know about the ramadan fairy, but it is obvious that muslims ARE fairies. One of the 5 pillars of islam is anal rape. Isn't that a dead giveaway?

    4. Re:NORAD has better things to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      and that one pillar being deeply shoved up the infidel and pig Mohammed's ass.

    5. Re:NORAD has better things to do by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      'Christmas' itself is nothing other than the Roman re-branding of the Saturnalia festival.

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    6. Re:NORAD has better things to do by Yosho · · Score: 1

      He said "Santa," not "Christmas."

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      Karma: Terrifying (mostly affected by atrocities you've committed)
    7. Re:NORAD has better things to do by sunspot42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Er, wrong. Santa Claus is an Americanization of Sinterklaas, the Dutch name for Saint Nicholas. Saint Nicholas was one of the early Christians (he participated in the first Council of Nicaea), and went on to become one of the most famous and well regarded saints in all of Europe. His reputation for generosity and kindness gave rise to legends of miracles he performed for the poor and unhappy.

      Although the trappings associated with the modern Santa Claus legend date to the late 1800's and the American poem "Twas The Night Before Christmas" (flying reindeer, sleigh, chimney sliding and the red coat were all original creations of that poem), the concept is completely Christian in origin and far older, dating back almost to the time of Christ.

      Now, one could argue that Christmas *itself* isn't a Christian tradition, per se, since the early Christians simply co-opted the Roman holiday Saturnalia, a holiday far more like our modern Christmas than Christmas itself was up until about a hundred years ago, and one which involved festivals, a state holiday, a feast, lights and the exchange of gifts. Everything old . . .

    8. Re:NORAD has better things to do by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You forgot to mention that our modern "image" of Santa Claus was created in (I think) the 1920's by an artist working on a Coca Cola advertising campaign.

      --
      If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
  14. Oh dear, it's getting worse by J.D.+Hogg · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you thought it was bad enough when Matthew Broderick messed up the WOPR, now the damn mainframe is going completely gaga ...

    1. Re:Oh dear, it's getting worse by Snowbeam · · Score: 1

      Did he mess it up, or was it really a foretelling of what was to come?

      --
      I am Lord Snowbeam. Heed my call!
    2. Re:Oh dear, it's getting worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you people are sad fucking excuses for human beings - get a clue and a life...

      Merry Christmas

  15. Just when you thought it wasn't possible.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ..the cynical bastards of Slashdot somehow manage to slander the concept of *Santa Claus* within 10 minutes of this article.

    Amazing.

  16. I missed it! by SumDeusExMachina · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I missed first post on my own story! Dammit!

    I'll never stop refreshing Slashdot again! I can't allow this to happen a second time!

    --

    Is your company running tools written by ma
    1. Re:I missed it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Hell it's just as well, your story is inept enough without adding fps.

  17. Santa is a Al Qaeda sympathizer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Check out the Sydney footage. Al Qaeda terrorists are obviously using Santa as cover for attacks on popular landmarks.

    They flew their aircraft behind and above the sleigh to remain invisible to radar, then as Santa changed course into Sydney proper, they dived in and exploded in the Opera House.

    Santa must be stopped! Quick! Call Bun-Bun, only he can save us! Break out the Furbies! Assemble the Easter Bunny!

    astfgl@iamnota.org

  18. Why RealMedia? by citizenc · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    (This is not to be taken as flamebait or trolling or anything like that.)

    I have a HUGE problem with Real's forced marketing policies when it comes to their software -- changing startup pages, adding links everywhere, changing your program associations.. I know a large number of people who won't touch Reals stuff anymore.

    Does anybody know of a WindowsMedia stream of something like this? I want to show my niece.

    1. Re:Why RealMedia? by GlassUser · · Score: 2

      What I want to know is why a government agency is pissing money into supporting crap like this. I'm assuming it's from some NORAD PR budget or something.

    2. Re:Why RealMedia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to know what kind of idiot thinks Norad actually did this

    3. Re:Why RealMedia? by cscx · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      I hate Real's software. Period.

      Their software is the biggest piece of spyware around. Shoot, you have to make like 15 changes when installing just to make it not do sneaky things around your system, and disable the ads. People bash Microsoft all the time, but I think Windows Media Player has hit it home. For one thing, I remember it occasionally checking for upgrades, and telling you that an upgrade was available. Meanwhile, with Real Player, it tells you something like "There is a new version of Real Player available... Download this bloatware and use it, or you will burn in hell forever!" Real Player is a memory hog (20+ MB), yet they insist that it preloads when Windows starts (don't know bout the Linux version). In the latest versions, they have attempted to make the "SmartCenter" even harder to disable for newbie users... it's about three or four dialogs deep...

      Even better is in the installer. It asks you if you want certain "announcements" (read: ads) and let's you check them off. Of course, it's a scrolling listbox. The boxes in view are unchecked, but if you scroll down, there are checked boxes. Damn sneaky. It also likes to take over all media extensions on your PC (like I need freaking RealPlayer to play a wave file... come on) if you don't disable that.

      Steve Gibson (grc.com) has an article about the controvertial RealDownload --- Real can basically find out what you're downloading, and track your habits!!!

      Now they are touting this "RealOne" player... I guess it's they're answer to the new verions of WMP; e.g., it includes CD Burning, etc. Of course they charge $10 for their player; WMP is free with all versions of Windows. You also have to make an account with Real before you can use the player!! That's like WMP telling me I have to make a .NET passport before I can use WMP. What bullshit, RealNetworks.

      The only reason that I touched RealOne was when I tried to listen to Christmas music using RealPlayer, I was told that this version of the software didn't support the stream. So I "upgraded" only to find out that their new portal has NO Christmas music. A whole lot of the content is pay, too.

      Sorry, Real, you lost the battle.

      By the way, you can still fetch RealPlayer 8 at http://www.real.com/player/8/index.html --- there are still (unfortunately) so many sites using Real streams.

    4. Re:Why RealMedia? by Al+Gore · · Score: -1

      Wow, your .sig is so fucking relevant that I'm about to spooge all over my beard!

      --


      God Bless,
      Al Gore
      Inventor of the Internet
      Father of our Country
    5. Re:Why RealMedia? by Silver222 · · Score: 1
      Dude, you want Christmas music? Go to Winamp.com and click on the radio link. You'll find what you need.

      --
      "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times." Bill Hicks
    6. Re:Why RealMedia? by damiam · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      And Windows Media is better? If you're gonna complain about one company's business practices, at least have the decency not to then recommend a product made by an even worse company.

      Until they finish Ogg Tarkin, I like my streaming video in MPEG format.

      --
      It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
    7. Re:Why RealMedia? by dsmey · · Score: 1
      "An even worse company"...explain?


      Just because they worked hard to be successful and don't give out their source code for free doesn't make someone bad.


      I guess if you're a communist, you might think otherwise.

    8. Re:Why RealMedia? by dynweb · · Score: 1

      Heh heh... MPEG... streamable... riiiiiiight. Sorry, I'm not blessed with a connection capable of streaming a 1.15Mbit VCD quality MPEG file. I like my 300kBit/sec Windows Media files, thanks.

    9. Re:Why RealMedia? by aka-ed · · Score: 1
      I want to know what kind of idiot thinks Norad actually did this

      Idiots who can read?

      --
      I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
    10. Re:Why RealMedia? by Retarded_One · · Score: -1

      Akamed, you, sir, are, a, GERBILEER,.

    11. Re:Why RealMedia? by ahaning · · Score: 1

      Well, you might take comfort knowing that the music available on their site is available in MP3. However, wgetting the files doesn't seem to be working. It fails part of the way through and has to restart from the beginning, rather than just continuing.

      Anyone have any thoughts (besides "that is a stupid waste of time")?

      --
      Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
    12. Re:Why RealMedia? by WirelessFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, lighten up, asshole. I think everyone in the U.S., especially the military, can use a little bit of compassion and fun in their lives right now.

      Geez... I was in the military myself and I still think this is very cool for children to witness. It's even cooler how it shows the family values side of our government.

    13. Re:Why RealMedia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have a nice Christmas, shithead.

    14. Re:Why RealMedia? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      champion
      gerbileer, sir.

      --
      I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
    15. Re:Why RealMedia? by mrfiddlehead · · Score: 1

      lighten up yourself, fuck for brains. It's a valid complaint for those of us who don't want to cowtow to the goddamn media monopolies that are taking over the goddamn fucking internet. Fuck off back to your family if you're so fucking concerned about family fucking values.

      --
      :wq
  19. New NP Technology by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 3, Redundant

    A few years ago, when I powered up one of the lost Clinton administration laptops (it was found in under a set on the DC Metro), I came across some interesting intelligience data. Apparently, the White Bearded One (WBO) has advanced well beyond what this article implies. I only caught a quick glimpse before the Secret Service snatched it from my hands and threatened to lock me up (didn't say where exactly).

    Naturally, I pretended not to have seen anything...except to say I was looking for a video game to play and it was just sitting there looking like it wanted to be played.

    Well, anyway...it seems that the WBO has been dabbling with quantum physics. Supposedly, he's found a way to convert himself into a wave function. This allows him to visit every home in the world simultaneously. But, it seems to work better if he contrained the function to a particular longitude. By adjusting this variable alone, he could make his visit to each child's home at exactly midnight in the child's time zone.

    Pretty ingenious if you ask me. He doesn't even need to slip down any more chimmneys and risk getting stuck (or burned). And, because the probabliity of him being where you are looking is so remote, he remains completely stealthy yet accomplishes his yearly mission in exactly one solar day. Whoa.

    Happy Holidays to All!

    RD

    1. Re:New NP Technology by Al+Gore · · Score: -1
      ...the White Bearded One (WBO) has advanced well beyond what this article implies....
      Yes, indeed He has...
      --


      God Bless,
      Al Gore
      Inventor of the Internet
      Father of our Country
    2. Re:New NP Technology by SumDeusExMachina · · Score: 3, Funny
      He doesn't even need to slip down any more chimmneys and risk getting stuck (or burned).

      Heh, reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes comic where Calvin walks in on a roaring fireplace and douses it with a fire extinguisher screaming "WHAT'S THIS? SANTA FLAMBE?!"

      --

      Is your company running tools written by ma
    3. Re:New NP Technology by marcs · · Score: 1

      >he's found a way to convert himself into a wave function.

      Uh, oh, he best not get observed and have his wave function collapse...

    4. Re:New NP Technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, wait a minute.. if you don't call him "White Bearded One" but "Long Bearded One", his acronym is LBO, and what is that backwards??? SCARY!!!

      Maybe if they follow his trail backwards, they'll get right to another long (although not while) bearded fella..

    5. Re:New NP Technology by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 2

      Why was the parent post to this message moderated as TROLL while other offbeat "stories" received "FUNNY" moderation? Apparently the moderator who awarded the Troll rating has a grudge against SANTA's R&D department or the fact that the Rudolf may soon be replaced. Must be a Union thing.

      However, after breaking this story, Santa's publicist announced that no Reindeer will lose their jobs over this advancement. They will still be used to assist in public appearances and receive the daily allotment of special magic grain.

      Hope everyone had a Wonderful Holiday.

      thx

      RD

  20. Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I heard that he's giving a special present to the children of the middle east this year by ramming his sled which is packed with explosives and napalm into a large building.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

  21. Isn't it ironic? Wouldn't you say? by Quixote · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Isn't it ironic that this story of Santa being tracked as he goes about his business should appear right next to the "World Sousveillance Day" article....

  22. Email I got. by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Troll
    I emailed the site owner this morning, saying.
    I have to ask? How many massive bong hits did you have before comming up with this site? Its great!

    and got the following reply.


    John,

    Santa's sled is powered by reindeer not 'bong hits' (whatever that is). Our technology is supplied by the incredibly complex NORAD tracking system, the website by STK and AOL.

    Keep checking out the website throughout the day .... Santa will be over Doak Campbell stadium in a few hours.

    Go 'Noles.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Years

    Team NORAD


    They took the time to figure out I was from FSU area from my ip I guess. Very impresed :)

    1. Re:Email I got. by AlterEd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Took the time? They're tracking Santa Claus, do you really think they didn't know where you were before you sent the email? ;-)

      --

      Ed Chauvin IV
    2. Re:Email I got. by redcliffe · · Score: 2

      I think that's a good slip up. They obviously know exactly where every email comes from, and all internet data.

    3. Re:Email I got. by wedg · · Score: 1

      Not only did they know you were from the FSU area, but they also knew what color shirt you were wearing, your boxer size, and what porn you were looking at.

      They just didn't say that, because it would've freaked you out so much you wouldn't be able to sleep, and then Santa wouldn't have come.

      --
      Jake
      Dating: while( 1 ){ call_girl(); get_rejected(); drink_40(); } return 0;
    4. Re:Email I got. by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 3, Funny

      They probably even checked the list twice.

      --
      Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
  23. Pathetic by Al+Gore · · Score: -1
    Pathetic Wow. it's sad that Cheap Software dorks are desperate enough to write fake news stories in which "Santa" adopts Open Sores software at "the North Pole." I mean, I can understand your desire to escape the real world, a world in which Linux can't beat Windows for ease-of-use and popular appeal, can't beat MacOS for multimedia, and can't beat UNIX for power and reliability. But causing others to doubt your sanity isn't going to help your lame little cause.

    This must be a difficult time of year for Cheap Software bigots. Those of you who aren't naive college students have no money to buy gifts, and surely no gifts will be given to the hostile, irritable, unhygienic "developers" (ha!) whom we have to thank for such monuments of shit as Mozilla and SourceForge. I'd be sad, too, having to watch highly-paid Closed Source developers stroll down the street, arms laden with expensive gifts, surrounded by beautiful women.

    And speaking of women, I just remembered that Valentine's Day is only two months away! You think that you'll be able to find a girlfriend by then, hog? Or will you spend another year cold and alone, trying to convince yourself that playing Counter-Strike with 15-year-old illiterates is really better than hot, greasy sex?

    Perhaps you should look to homosexuality, the traditional sexual outlet of the Cheap Software "developer." Sure, it may hurt a bit, and your ass may leak blood and semen for 72 hours afterward, but anything is better than being alone on Christmas... isn't it?

    Anyway, as I was saying, if making up fairy tales about Santa and Linux helps you survive another holiday season, fine. But it isn't helping your cause, and it isn't improving the real world's outlook on Cheap Software. Why not get some exercise, take a shower, put on some nice clothes, buy (or steal) some expensive chocolates and wine, walk down to your nearest singles bar, and... slit your wrists in the bathroom? Thanks!

    --


    God Bless,
    Al Gore
    Inventor of the Internet
    Father of our Country
  24. From CNN... by ktakki · · Score: 5, Funny

    From CNN:

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. military officials are tracking Santa's travel path and reporting the latest data on his location on a Web site.

    "If he deviates from his filed flight plan or turns off his transponder, we're prepared to scramble F-15s from Langley AFB, Eglin AFB, Mountain Home AFB, Elmendorf AFB, Tyndall AFB, and Nellis AFB, and blow that fat bastard out of the skies," said NORAD spokesman Gen. Buck Turgidson.

    In addition, Gen. Turgidson stated that there would be a limited test of National Missile Defense (NMD) tracking assets at various locations around the country. "Santa can deploy all the decoys he wants. We'll find him, we'll track him, we'll get him," Gen. Turgidson added.

    Military analysts have mentioned possible countermeasures Santa Claus might take to avoid NORAD radar, including a low-altitude, terrain-masking flight profile, radar-absorbant coating on his sleigh, and multiple layers of metal foil on Rudolph's nose to lessen the infrared signature.

    k.

    --
    "In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart." - Anne Frank
    1. Re:From CNN... by kfg · · Score: 2

      Can Santa get through? Listen, If Santa's good, I mean really good, hell YES he can get . . .

      "Bat" Guano, ( if that really is his real name), had no comment, other than to mutter something about Santa answering to the Coca-Cola company for trademark delution.

      KFG

  25. Re: Making Changes up North by SpringRevolt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, if it was me choosing an OS to organize a bunch of reindeer, I would have to trust to instinct and run with the Hurd.

    (Groan: -1 Corny :-)

  26. all your santa by jrs+1 · · Score: 1

    are belong to us

    merry christmas slashdot readers - catch the real video stream and see if you can spot that firewire card in his sack that you asked for this year ;)

  27. Slashdotting Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    CNN Dec 25, 2001: In an act of goodwill towards children all over the world, NORAD put up a website serving realtime video tracking of Santa Claus. However, a group of internet terrorists has brought this service down through a feared terrorist method known as slashdotting. An official at NORAD states: "It's just sad that there are people out there who spend the entire holiday season shut up in front of their computers ruining Christmas for children everywhere. This web service for children under the age of eight has now been completely brought down by thousands of adolescent hackers. This slashdot effect isn't some sort of innocent web browsing method. It's a terrorist act, and we've passed the laws to stop it."

  28. Damn /. editors! by nyet · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought /. was a REAL news source! How unprofessional! They didn't bother to do any fact checking on this story... I found out through a friend that Santa doesn't actually exist.

    Shame on you.

    1. Re:Damn /. editors! by Al+Gore · · Score: -1

      Your friend is obviously a Terror-Arab and must be stopped from spreading such blatant un-American propaganda. Why not give him a gift-wrapped bomb tomorrow morning?

      --


      God Bless,
      Al Gore
      Inventor of the Internet
      Father of our Country
    2. Re:Damn /. editors! by Soko · · Score: 2

      found out through a friend that Santa doesn't actually exist.

      Actually, Santa is Canadian, so he only "doesn't exist" in the good ol' US of A. Shame on you for not believing in the /. editors, and Santa as well.

      "If it's in the New York Sun, It's true."

      --
      "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
  29. i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by MoceanWorker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Santa does not exist!!

    This is probably the best way to explain to your kids that he doesn't exist... i guess you could use this for the Easter rabbit as well :-\

    --


    "The ones who dont do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down" -- Henry Rollins
    1. Re:i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by PepsiProgrammer · · Score: 1

      But that paper does not discount alternate method's of travel and other 'spooky science' (to quote einstein) of quantum physics....

      --
      "The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
    2. Re:i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foundations... This inquiry is based on the premise that there is only one Santa Claus. The calculations work out more realistically if you assume some form of parallel processing. A thousand Santas (1 kilosanta) or a million (a megasanta) or more, working in parallel, could perform the same number of visits in the same allotted time with less advanced technology (and fewer vaporized reindeer).

      What happens when we start talking about kibisantas and mebisantas? Does the extra "kick" from the binary version of the standard SI units make the result more practical?

    3. Re:i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by Glytch · · Score: 2

      From the link:

      In comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second.

      The fastest what on where?

      Therefore, the rest of the link is bogus. Everyone knows that Santa can turn himself into a quantum waveform like a previous poster stated.

      In conclusion, you are a poopyhead and deserve a stocking full of coal.

    4. Re:i have scientifical evidence he doesn't exist!! by serial+frame · · Score: 1
      When I attempted to see santa.txt, I encountered...

      ERROR

      The requested URL could not be retrieved

      While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.zophar.net/santa.txt

      Generated Tue, 25 Dec 2001 05:27:17 GMT by squid2.ztnet.com (Squid/2.4.STABLE3)

      Geez, I'm convinced! The man doesn't even exist on the Web!?

      --

      -
      And the Angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots! The cries of the carrots!"
  30. My Christmas is ruined: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2001-12-24 19:51:01 Military Tracks Santa! (articles,xmas) (rejected)

    *snif*

  31. It's a scam! by choprboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I knew it! Just like the moon landing, this whole "Santa" thing is just a scam, filmed on some Hollywood movie lot. Look, I found the proof! Thru very careful hacking of the sites computer code (i.e., I read the html), I've managed to decipher the highly encrypted links (i.e., took a wild guess), and have found film footage that couldn't possibly exist yet if this whole "Santa" thing was real! According to this official "NORAD" site, "Santa"'s already finishing delivering present to Hawaii. It's still the middle of the afternoon there!

    http://santa.stream.aol.com/ramgen/aol/us/specia ls /2001/santatrack/28_en.rm

  32. Surface-to-air by leastsquares · · Score: 1

    This opens up some interesting possibilities:

    SAM.

  33. Akk not again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Real Media sucks and AoHell blows, so I guess it's a draw...I woulda appreciated this site alot more if it gave me a Winblows Media option or even a Qwacktime option. Oh well, guess the internet isn't for everyone, at least I don't have 6 real/player/launcher/watcher/catcher/downloader icons taking up 5 inches of my systray.

    Freeschwag

    Tweet, tweet, all idiots out of the gene pool!

  34. Santa -- the Dark Side by fm6 · · Score: 1, Troll
    You know, Santa really bothers me. He's all about greed and acquisitiveness. He even managed to infiltrate my non-Christian upbringing in various nasty ways. I still shudder to think about it.

    I used to look down on Christmas, until I realized that Santa (the Coca Cola Santa, that is) had nothing to do with the traditional Christmas. I've come to appreciate Christmas as an excuse for generosity and fellowship, but I will never be reconciled with the selfishness and wastefulness the fat idiot in the trademark red suit represents.

    So I think a couple of quotes are in order. First, some dialog from Buffy:

    Willow: Santa always passes me by. Something puts him off. Could be the big honkin' menorah.
    Tara: Oh, did you write him a letter?
    Xander: What'd you ask for?
    Dawn: Um, guys? Hello? Puberty? Sorta figured out the whole "No Santa" thing.
    Anya: That's a myth.
    Dawn: Yeah.
    Anya: No, I mean, it's a myth that it's a myth. There is a Santa Claus.
    Xander: The advantage of having a thousand-year-old girlfriend. Inside scoop.
    Tara: There's a Santa Claus?
    Anya: Mm-hmm. Been around since, like, the 1500s. He wasn't always called Santa, but you know, Christmas night, flying reindeer, coming down the chimney -- all true.
    Dawn: All true?
    Anya: Well, he doesn't traditionally bring presents so much as, you know, disemboweled children, but otherwise...
    Tara: The reindeer part was nice.
    And we mustn't forget Neil Gaiman's reinterpretation of the basic Santa myth.
    1. Re:Santa -- the Dark Side by FFFish · · Score: 2

      And let's not forget Pratchett's "Hogfather," who delivered... ??? ... to the residents of DiscWorld.

      --

      --
      Don't like it? Respond with words, not karma.
  35. Cross your fingers by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Hope Santa has his Oracard if NORAD stops him and asks about fruits or vegetables.

    --

    --
    "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  36. simple solution by GaylordFucker · · Score: -1

    why not just make a beowulf cluster of santas?

    --


    Get that rats nest off your head, you numbskull -- Wesley Willis
  37. About all NORAD is good for any more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NORAD only exists to make the last phone call to the president and ask him for his launch codes. At least they can provide a worthwhile national service while waiting for doomsday.

  38. Reminds me of a song... by }InFuZeD{ · · Score: 1

    Twas the night before Christmas...
    And up at the north pole, everybody's going crazy, everything's out of control.

    The toy shop is on fire, the toys melting on the shelves, and you can Mrs. Clause screaming "I warned you never trust those elves."

    Unless something drastic happens fast, say hello to the Ghost of Christmas Past.

    Because Rudolph's puking boughs of holly, and Old Saint Nick aint all that jolly, 'cus the sleigh's in the shop cus it's broken down, but Christmas won't stop, 'cus Santa Clause is thumbing to town :)

    Gotta Love Relient K.

  39. Perl Is Doomed by shoesolebomber · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Perl has served its purpose. Sad to say, but its day is done. The time has come for Perl to yield the spotlight to newer, better scripting languages. The reasons for Perl's imminent demise should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense. Nevertheless, the main causes of Perl's lack of fitness deserve to be recounted here:

    Perl is emphatically not an object-oriented language. Perl's OO features were crudely hacked in after-the-fact. This unfortunate compromise is the equivalent of trying to bolt an internal-combustion engine onto a stagecoach instead of designing an automobile from the ground up.

    Too many simple tasks are pointlessly complicated. Take the simple example of creating an array whose elements are arrays. Not only does the developer need to use additional inner brackets for each element, but they must also remember to use the unique @{$a[1]} syntax when referencing. Why all the extra steps? Who knows.

    Perl is notoriously impossible read and maintain. Walk into any bar frequented after-hours by veteran developers and you'll hear story after story being swapped about having to decipher brain-crushing lines of text like :" (my @parsed =$URL =~ m@(\w+)://([^/:]+)(:\d*)?([^#]*)@) || return undef;". This unreadability is in part the result of the fact that:

    Perl attempts to be all things to all people and ends up being second-rate at everything.Perl is widely known as the "duct tape of the internet", and it performs superbly in this role. However, just as you cannot build a house out of duct tape alone, so attempting to turn a language that was originally developed for scrpiting brief, handy utilities into a do-all, be-all programming language will only result in the buggy, bloated, "write-only" mess that Perl has become.

    Subroutine signatures, orthogonals, method access, data inheritance: this list could go on and on. But there is no real need. Its is now clear that Perl is doomed. At this very moment, Perl 6.0 is being cobbled together, with bulletins about the myriad upcoming features of the new version being issued with titles referring to the Biblical Book of the Apocalypse, the favorite text of messianic streetcorner lunatics. There is no better indicator of the deranged states of mind of the developers behind Perl than this unfortunate choice of imagery. Software developers with any interest in future employment/relevance should sieze this opportunity to attain fluency in Ruby or Python and donate their Perl books to the History Department of their local University.

  40. Santa has a new ride? by secs · · Score: 1

    Check out all the archived Santa cam shots, every picture execpt Eastern Canada shows Santa in his sled.

    Seems he likes to ride in CF-18's instead.

  41. Some Christmas Fun off Our Friend the Internet by Raffi+Spock · · Score: 3, Offtopic

    SANTA CLAUS: An Engineer's Perspective
    I. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per house hold, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each.

    II. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second.

    This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second --- 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour.

    III. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting Santa himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of them --- Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

    IV. 600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second crates enormous air resistance --- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo.

    V. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now.

    --
    Quid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
    Anything said in Latin, sounds profound.
    1. Re:Some Christmas Fun off Our Friend the Internet by torgosan · · Score: 1

      Only a 2? This is priceless...mod it up guys.

      --
      "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand". -Milton F.
    2. Re:Some Christmas Fun off Our Friend the Internet by BlacKat · · Score: 1

      "This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch)"

      +1, Hysterical

      Thanks for the laugh! :o)

    3. Re:Some Christmas Fun off Our Friend the Internet by crsm · · Score: 1

      Newer research has revealed that Santa is employing quantum wave functions which explains a lot - look here

  42. With us or against us Santa... by percey · · Score: 1

    I feel safer at night knowing that our technology is so advanced that we can even track Santa clause. But I'm worried about the cost to the economy because of all the money outlayed because of Santa. The amount of money we spent to irradiate the mail that was sent to him, and I presume he will be given an F15 fighter jet escort because of the hightened state of security. I think the cost of this far surpasses the cost of toys for every girl and boy. But there's an opportunity for santa to repay us. He knows when people are sleeping you know, and when they're awake, and obviously he knows where everyone is, so why doesn't the FBI find out from him where Bin Laden is? I mean think of all the free publicity cocoa-cola and other American companies give him over the years, the least he can do for the country is help our war effort. I personally would support covert military action at the north pole to find Santa Clause and find out what he knows, and while they're at it they should get some of that technology that he has. Especially that part in that poem,

    "..And laying his finger aside of his nose, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;"

    That I think could be very useful in those caves of Tora Bora.

  43. suck it long and suck it hard bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that's right

  44. heheheheh by Retarded_One · · Score: -1

    Serves the little fuckers right. Oh, to see napalm dropped on palestinean refugee camps...Now THAT would be a Christmas to cherish and remember!

  45. Santa must be out on Bail by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    As reported a couple of weeks ago, Santa was pulled in for questioning because of potentially suspicious activities in Canada. See this report in Yahoo.

    I understand he was held under lock and key, but he must of had a good lawyer and made bail. Although He'll now be in trouble for fleeing the jurisdiction.

    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  46. Santa? Or SATAN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Santa Claus may be good fun for non-Christian children everywhere, but have you ever stopped to consider the effect that Santa's popularity has had on Jesus? Yes, Jesus Christ, who died for your sins and makes julienne fries, is now forced to wander the streets begging for spare change like some sort of Perl programmer.

    So when you're opening your shiny gifts from Santa tomorrow morning, think of Jesus. He's probably going to get frostbite for your sins, and then have to have his feet amputated for your sins, and go on prescription painkillers while receiving federal welfare for your sins. You fuckers!

    -- The_Messenger

  47. Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Were you beaten as a child or something?

    Lighten up. You know, Happy Holidays and all. It's something goofy and fun for kids and adults alike, a way to whimsically integrate technology with a cherished childhood myth.

    Or, I suppose, yet another reason for a slashdot troll to whine and stomp. sigh. Merry Xmas.

  48. Oh yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let's all hope he/she doesn't grow up to be big fucking sour puss like you, jackass.

  49. Easy... by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of parents today, but what you do is spank the brother when he is bad, then he will not act so bad most of the time...

    1. Re:Easy... by Yosho · · Score: 1

      Sure thing. When he plays a practical joke, abuse him and make him resentful towards you so that next time he'll know to cover his tracks better. At least, I know that when *I* was a little kid, whenever I got in trouble for something, the lesson learned was that I should concentrate more on covering my tracks.

      On an only slightly related note, this reminds me of an incident my sister got in while she was in high school. Y'see, I was on good terms with the vice principal at the time, although he didn't know her. One day she and a friend of hers got in a fight, and my sister passed a rather nasty note to her friend in class. Naturally, this friend reported it, and my sister got sent to the office. She got to see the vice principal, who, upon seeing her name, asked if she was my sister, and she answered truthfully. Know what the vice principal said?

      "Next time, tell her in person rather than sending a note. It's harder to prove you did it." And then he let her go.

      --
      Karma: Terrifying (mostly affected by atrocities you've committed)
    2. Re:Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, _actually_ parenting and teaching children right from wrong is definitely not important in today's society. Hell, everyone is so good at blaming things on others that it must be ADD's fault he did it, right? You make me sick.

    3. Re:Easy... by Yosho · · Score: 1

      And you're misinterpreting what I said. Actually parenting and teaching are fine things. Physical abuse as a form of punishment is not. In fact, I disagree with the general idea of punishment; children should not be taught, "Don't do this or you'll be hurt." Rather, it's more effective to show them *why* doing something is wrong.

      And you could at least not post as an Anonymous Coward. I'm not entirely sure whether your post is a troll or not; your rather juvenile last line, "You make me sick," indicates it might be. If you've got such a weak stomach that hearing an opinion you disagree with makes you sick, you need some professional help. If it is a troll, however, it's a rather poorly constructed one.

      --
      Karma: Terrifying (mostly affected by atrocities you've committed)
  50. Santa is an Al Qaeda sympathizer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out the Sydney footage. Al Qaeda terrorists are obviously using Santa as cover for attacks on popular landmarks.

    They flew their aircraft behind and above the sleigh to remain invisible to radar, then as Santa changed course into Sydney proper, they dived in and exploded in the Opera House.

    Santa must be stopped! Quick! Call Bun-Bun, only he can save us! Break out the Furbies! Assemble the Easter Bunny!

    astfgl@iamnota.org

  51. Still Cam Shots from the Future! by thebabelfish · · Score: 3, Insightful
    To see still cam shots from the future (now how did they do that? :), replace 'XX' in the URL www.noradsanta.org/english/cam/santacamXX.html with any number from 01-29, inclusive. The locations the numbers correspond with (I think) are below, although somethings seems screwy (feel free to correct as the night progresses, I probably screwed up).
    1. Blip on NORAD radar (kinda)
    2. Blip (?) on NORAD satellite (sorta)
    3. Sydney Harbor
    4. Aleutian Islands
    5. Figi (Fugi?)
    6. Sydney Harbor (doesn't make sense!?)
    7. Mt. Fugi, Japan
    8. Malaysia
    9. Himalayas
    10. Taj Mahal, India
    11. Persian Gulf
    12. St. Basils, Moscow
    13. Finland
    14. South Africa
    15. Collosseum, Rome
    16. Eiffel Tower, Paris
    17. Stone Henge, England
    18. Brazil
    19. Newfoundland
    20. Over the USA
    21. Over the USA (yet again)
    22. Statue of Liberty, NYC
    23. White House
    24. Unidentifiable
    25. A shopping mall (?!?)
    26. The rockies (?)
    27. San Francisco (Los Angeles?)
    28. Hawaii (?)
    29. Hawaii (again?)
    --
    "I don't trust goats," --To Catch a Spy
    1. Re:Still Cam Shots from the Future! by Judg3 · · Score: 2

      24. is Reindeer Lake
      25. is Chicago
      26. is Colorado

      I'm not really authorized to tell you how I know. Let's just say I'm Santa's travel agent..

      DOH!

      --
      Looking for hardware (Currently need: Large Etch-a-Sketch) Have one? See my journal!
    2. Re:Still Cam Shots from the Future! by Swaffs · · Score: 1

      24 is Reindeer Lake on the Saskatchewan and Manitoba border.

      20 is most definitely not over the USA. In fact, neither is 21 which claims to be.

      19 is over Labrador, not Newfoundland.

      --

      --
      "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." - Homer Simpson [1F10]

  52. Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by imagineer_bob · · Score: 0

    What ever happened to separation of church and state? I find this whole thing highly offensive.

    1. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by WirelessFreak · · Score: 1

      I find your lack of morals and compassion highly offensive. They're tracking Santa for the kiddies, for Pete's sake. Give it a rest!

      Geez... Pathetic....

    2. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by imagineer_bob · · Score: 0
      You CHRISTIANS have been MURDERING people for YEARS.


      I am a very religious person, but not a christian.


      STOP SHOVING YOUR GRAVEN-IMAGE-PLASTIC-IDOL-ON-A-WOODEN-STICK DOWN MY THROAT.

    3. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...as have the Arabs, the Hindus, the Jews, the Buddhists, the pagans, the various tribal religions (including those political-correctness-holds-blameless American Indians), the agnostics, and the atheists, as well as insert-any-sizable-group-of-people-that-have-ever existed-here.

      Since you didn't mention your religion, I suppose I can respond by saying QUIT SHOVING IT DOWN -MY- THROAT; I can't tell you how much I've been forced to learn about other religions that I'd just as soon not know in school, wasting my parent's (and mine, now) tax dollars and my brain cells.

      Oh yeah, and Merry Christmas. :)

    4. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by imagineer_bob · · Score: 0

      It's useful to learn about other religions, so you can know exactly how blasphemous they are (like Christianity's IDOL WORSHIP). I don't consider that a waste of money.

    5. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Air Force does not allot funding for the program, so all work associated with Santa tracking is done by volunteers. Private industry donated the site and 120 personnel spend Christmas Eve answering phone calls and checking e-mail. Last year IBM volunteered to manage the site. This year AOL will host it. Because of the number of hits, it's impossible for the military to handle the amount of traffic going through the NORAD Santa sight on Christmas Eve."

      From another story linked further down below.

    6. Re:Why is my tax $$$ being wasted? by elvar · · Score: 1

      ur dum. It's that simple. For you to rip into this person for writing something that funny and creative is pathetic. GET A LIFE ( ! )

      -lick your wounds

  53. Defense by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Well, my son and I will sleep better tonight knowing that NORAD can survive the Slashdot effect!

    Merry Christmas everyone!

    --
    sig fault
  54. Warnings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On BBC Radio 1, there was an advisory put out by the DJ, Scott Mills, to parents to be aware of an old man coming down chimneys and emptying his sack all over your living room. If you do spot him, please do not approach him!

  55. for the children! by detritus. · · Score: 1

    Looking at the very poorly rendered snapshots and flybys of Santa, I would feel bad telling my kid that it's really him. Hell, no wonder kids can't distinguish video games from reality!

  56. Pity the Dyslexic Child by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    Awake all night, terrified that Satan's going to come down the chimney...

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  57. He's been our ally so far... by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    ...I guess, but that's no guaranty.

  58. Don't tell them when Christmas *Eve* is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I have kids, I'm gunna tell them when Christmas -is- but not actually warn them it's Christmas Eve. Cuz if they know it's Christmas Eve, they'll be complete brats for the next 24 hours waiting till they can open their presents.. whereas if they wake up to a surprise on the 25th, think how easy it will be?

    I will be a wonderful parent.

  59. Merry Christmas, Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


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    1. Re:Merry Christmas, Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of FBI Carnivore
      machines sorting through all network traffic
      to find and prosecute farc-wits like
      this guy who try to lure decent folks to
      look at his gaping hole. I hope he
      gets the chair.

      Only an Al-qaeda terrorist would post something
      like this, therefore, this and all goatse.cx
      posts fall under the homeland security
      defense act. All goats posters will soon be
      in prison for submitting such atrocities to
      the nationally treasured slashdot website.

      Merry x-MAS.

  60. Nothing original here by Aurelfell · · Score: 1

    but Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Quanza, and other non-denominational holiday greetings to all \.

  61. Christmas Eve by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1

    Need sometyhing to listen to? Ho about Prank Calls:

    208.38.138.12:8000
    :-)

    --
    I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
  62. Santa is running late... by thumbtack · · Score: 1

    Rumor has it that Santa is actually running late, after having to to submit to a personal search, have his packages hand inspected and unwrapped, and having his boots x-rayed before leaving. (imagine standing around barefoot in a foot of snow). On a related note, anyone expecting a Swiss Army Knife for Christmans will be disappointed as more that 3 million were confiscated.

  63. Help Set The Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They want to set a world record!

    This should be easy to do they even give phone numbers you can call! Hint call collect 8) its free that way!

    Its an old school Ma Bell joke, so its free trust me 8)

    Best Regards,

    And Good Cheer,

    8)

  64. I know someone who is going to get a lump of coal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that this idiot does.

    I remember Norad doing this since *I* was a kid (it's been awhile...)

    Sorry you can't see your way clear to let others have a bit of fun. Besides, why is it so hard to believe? I've recently come across proof that there is a Grinch...

  65. Stealth... by AnimeFreak · · Score: 1

    If Santa is using stealth technology, can I detect him with my cellular phone? It would be cool to see him for the 0.00000001ms he'd be in my house.

    I hope he has that shiny new hard drive for me.

  66. Merry Christmas! by ManDude · · Score: 1

    Merry Christmas everyone and have a great New Year!

    The Dude

  67. Santa Claus... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

    Is spreading the concept of commercialism in order to destroy the true meaning of Christmas... I think that it's no accident that his name is an anagram for Satan.
    Just kidding, all. I'm from a Chanukah house. No offense intended...

    (...I'm watching you, Santa. I'm watching you.)

  68. Flight simulator sleigh by isdnip · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Y'know, I was playing Flight Simulator today. And then I saw that Norad Santacam. Hmmm, looks a little similar; you have a sprite of Santa in this flying contraption, atop some scenery. Hey, what would it be like to fly one of those things? No throttle, but reins, and minimal instrumentation. It's certainly fast enough, navigable, and doesn't need regular airports to land at. Yeah, that'd be a nice addition! Why just airplanes and helicopters?
    You might have to set the date to late December to get it to take off, though.

  69. My Mac could do this FIVE YEARS AGO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Crypes almighty, get with the damn program!

    1. Re:My Mac could do this FIVE YEARS AGO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      only an al-qaeda sympathizer would
      make a remark like that. Expect
      stormtroopers for chrismtmas you
      /terrorist/sleeper_cell/menace

  70. Yay! It's almost over! Got myself some toys! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    I dropped a pile again this Christmas and shipped it all off to family back in the Midwest. I'm a westie and didn't fly back this Christmas so I miss out on all those looks and hanging out on present opening. So to cheer myself up a little I bought a few gifts for myself:

    A Slinky Jr.

    A spinning top which plays a tune and has little weapon stickers on it.

    A Boba Fett Pez dispenser

    Works for me. I feel great!

    Anyone else buy themselves presents?

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  71. Futurama XMAS Episode by simetra · · Score: 1

    That was an "instant classic" as the kids like to say these days.

    --

    "Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
  72. Childhood memories....... by Demonbird · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, I thought that this was so wonderful. I can remember hearing NORAD's reports on the radio while driving home from Christmas Eve dinner at our grandparents. It was an integral part of christmas for me, and it was quite magical too.

    I hadn't thought about it in a long time until I heard this story, and I'm glad I did. It warms my heart to think that a new generation of children is enjoying this, and in new ways thanks to the digital age.

    Anyone else have childhood memories of NORAD tracking santa?

    1. Re:Childhood memories....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      you are a true homo, and why do people continue to tell children lies?

    2. Re:Childhood memories....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll bet that you're a real sucker for the hype and lies.

  73. Missile Defense? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    I can just see how this plays out with the Prez's missile defense shield:

    "Mister President, our latest test during a midnight clear failed to pick up the intended target, again."

    "Well, it's important you boys keep trying, we can't have anything sneaking into our borders, it's important I keep this campaign promise."

    "Sir, it did strike a target, we confirm that it mistook an incoming large man wearing a red suit in a sleigh pulled by eight tiny reindeer. Apparently he had a large beard and its anti-terrorist homing zeroed in on it."

    "Well, we'll just have to cover up this unfortunate incident. Can't be having children think Santa Claus is dead, it wouldn't do the economy any good. See if Ralph Reed is available to fill in, give the tykes some spiritual guidance."

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  74. As noded into E2... by teleny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The NORAD Santa Report owes its existence to a typo in a local newspaper in Omaha,
    Nebraska. In the mid-Fifties, a local department store had an actor impersonating Santa Claus,
    that kids could call on Christmas Eve. (Presumably, the guy told the kids that "he'd be right over" and tell them to get to bed early.)

    Unfortunately, the number had one digit wrong, which yuppers, patched the rugrats into NORAD.
    The somewhat amused personnel, married and with kids themselves (as per regulation,
    according to then-current psychological theory) took to saying "Well, we're an Air Force base, not
    Santa Claus, but yes, we're tracking Santa right now."

    A few winters of this were enough to get everyone's story straight, and to retire the number (except for Santa reports). In 1958, they began releasing live reports to TV and radio stations, casting high-ranking (and often retired) officers asuld get a "full NORAD welcome" (of escorting state-of-the-art fighter jets) if seen over US airspace. Creepy, when you think of it...

    --
    teleny, friend of cats.
    1. Re:As noded into E2... by crsm · · Score: 1

      Here's the story.

  75. Have you had kids??? by DAldredge · · Score: 1

    I am sorry, but the statement "it's more effective to show them *why* doing something is wrong" has no basis in reality. A child LOVES to push against the limits that a parent sets, and with out the threat of punishment they will keep doing what ever they feel like...In reality it is most effective to combine punishment with talking

    1. Re:Have you had kids??? by fliplap · · Score: 1
      I totally agree. I'm not a religous person, I belive everyone deserves to be treated equally. But the idea that everything we are changing these days is turning into something good is very wrong. There is a reason a child is called a child. There is a reason children aren't allowed to smoke or drink. Because they are too young to make these decisions by themselves, they can't judge right and wrong for themselves. How does a child know something is wrong without a real punishment, are you going to scold them and send them to thier room full of toys?

      To the person who said all they learned was how to cover thier tracks. Well you were just a bad kid, you might have had bad parents, but, i doubt if your mommy had sat on her knee and said "Don't tease Susie she get sad" it would have helped. You would have said

      "Yeah i know, its funny"

      "But Jimmy Susie is crying, she doesn't like it when you call her a whore"

      "Yeah i know, but she is, and its funny when she cries"

  76. Deliberately lying to our children? by treat · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Is it appropriate that we deliberately deceive our children? Does this make them more or less likely to trust us? Should we be talking about how cute this is, or about what we can do to change the brutally mistaken tradition of conspiring to trick young children?

    1. Re:Deliberately lying to our children? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2

      I agree with the parent poster and am saddened, but not surprised, to see the post modded "flamebait." Apparently anyone who dares to criticize anything Christmas-y, even on a forum usually as progressive and freethinking as Slashdot, is eeevil and must be silenced. [sigh]

      --
      The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
  77. *sigh* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You're a sad, sad man.

  78. Yo Ho Ho ! .... and heeeeere comes ..... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1



    Osama Bin Laden !

    Worse.

    Norad has completely missed him !

    HELP ! SOS ! HELP !

    --
    Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
  79. alt.sex.plushies Frequently Asked Questions by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

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    13) Are there fursuit web sites I can browse, too?
    14) I've seen some unusual terms used here. What do they all mean?
    15) What is the 'Plush Code'?
    16) How can I clean a plushie?
    17) How can I modify a plushie?
    18) Where can I buy plushies on the net?

    1) What is 'alt.sex.plushies'?

    'alt.sex.plushies' is a newsgroup for adults who have special personal
    feelings for plush stuffed animals (and plush puppets, too). It's
    also a place where people talk about 'fursuits'. alt.sex.plushies was
    newgrouped on August 9, 1994.

    2) What is a 'plushie'? What is a 'plushophile'?

    A 'plushie' is a plush stuffed animal, like a teddy bear. 'Plushie'
    is also sometimes used as a short form for 'plushophile': an adult
    who loves or is otherwise attracted to stuffed animals.

    3) What is a 'fursuit'?

    This is a full-body costume that makes the wearer look like a favorite
    animal, or an animal character. Costumes like this are commonly seen
    being worn by staff members at amusement parks dressing up as popular
    cartoon characters. They're also seen at sporting events where the
    team has a mascot in a costume. Since a person in a fursuit looks
    (and feels) a lot like a 'living plushie', such costumes are
    understandably popular with some plushophiles. Several of us here
    have made or bought our own animal costumes.

    4) What kinds of subjects are discussed on alt.sex.plushies?

    Many people assume that the group is just for talking about sex,
    sexual techniques, and ways to modify plushies to use them for sex.
    While these subjects certainly all come up, they are far from the
    only things that are discussed here. Some other topics that arise
    are what kinds of plushies people have, what they look like, where to
    buy them, how to make fursuits and other kinds of costumes, what kind
    of plushie gatherings are coming up, and just plain conversation
    between friends. alt.sex.plushies is a small, friendly group, and
    nobody minds if a discussion drifts a bit away from the subject of
    plushies now and then. About the only things that are unwelcome are
    binary posts, and the SPAM advertisements that flood the whole
    alt.sex.* hierarchy.

    5) How do people really feel about their plush companions?

    While most plushophiles probably feel at least some degree of affection
    for their plushies, the ways they express it depend on the individual.
    Some may view their plushies as just sex toys, while other plushophiles
    love, even venerate their stuffed animals.

    6) Why be intimate with plushies instead of with people?

    You don't have to choose between one or the other - you can have both
    plush and human partners at the same time - but the great thing about
    stuffed animals is that they can always be there for you, whenever you
    feel the need for intimacy. People can be 'too busy', 'too tired' or
    'have a headache', but a plushie will never say 'No!' when you crave
    closeness. Stuffed animals can be truly ideal companions. No plush
    partner will ever break your heart, give you a disease, or hurt you in
    any way. Plushies can bring pure, unfettered happiness into your life,
    and if you're open to it, wonderful sensual experiences, as well.

    7) Just what exactly do people do with plushies, anyway?

    Probably the most common thing plushophiles do with their plushies is
    to simply cuddle them. Many of us sleep with our stuffed animals, as
    well. Concerning plush sex, two common methods are to hug a plushie
    while pleasuring oneself, and to rub against the fur of the plushie
    until achieving orgasm. Some people modify their plushies to form a
    space for penetration. This can be as simple as an opened seam, or a
    more elaborate insert can be constructed. People can also modify a
    plushie with a penis-like attachment. Some plushophiles have such
    strong feelings for plushies that they can make themselves peak just
    by looking at one, or just sniffing its scent. Many other fetishes
    can easily be combined with plush sex, as well. Also, you can involve
    human partners with plush. Rubbing a plushie against a sex partner's
    body is nice, as is 'sandwiching' a partner's body between yours and a
    large plushie (or sandwiching the plushie), or frolicking with your
    partner in a big pile of plush. The potential ways to use plushies
    are really limited solely by the imagination. Indulge freely in your
    fancies!

    8) I think I'd like to explore this. How should I begin?

    First and most importantly, find a stuffed animal that appeals to you
    in a very personal way. It may take time, but eventually you'll find
    one that's irresistible. If you currently have a stuffed animal that
    you've got special feelings for, chances are you've already expressed
    those emotions in some intimate manner. In general, probably the best
    way to learn about plush love is to take your special plushie to bed
    with you, and just cuddle at first. That might be as far as you want
    to go, but if the sensations of softness, warmth and closeness bring
    on arousal, simply follow your instincts. You'll find that plushies
    make very nice love partners. They will gladly do anything you want
    and any time you feel like it, so you can totally set your own pace.
    Just start with cuddling, and sleeping with your special plushie(s),
    and in time, you will learn all the Joys Of Plush(tm) for yourself.

    9) Am I welcome here if I like plushies but don't have sex with them?

    Certainly! Many of the posters here collect plushies for their
    appearance, because they love animals, or various other non-sexual
    reasons. There are plenty of things plush collectors can and do
    discuss here, whether they are into sexual uses for plushies or not.
    Please feel free to join such discussions or start new ones, and just
    skip over any other topics that don't interest you. You'll find that
    the majority of discussions here are actually not sexual, only a
    minority of them are.

    10) Why is there so little traffic on this newsgroup?

    A lot of people stopped posting to alt.sex.plushies when the SPAM
    advertisements flooded the group. a.s.p isn't completely dead, though.
    Many of us still monitor the group for on-topic posts, and newcomers
    are always welcome. Don't let the SPAM discourage you from joining us!
    If you do post to a.s.p, though, *make sure* your Subject: line starts
    with a tag like 'PLUSH:'. Most of us have filters that kill posts
    whose Subject: line doesn't contain the word 'plush' or 'plushies'.

    11) What other plushie newsgroups are on the net?

    These Usenet newsgroups are devoted to stuffed animals, too:
    alt.fan.plushies
    alt.collecting.teddy-bears
    alt.collecting.beanie-babies
    alt.collecting.beanie-babies.forsale
    alt.collecting.beanie-babies.uk

    Plushie pictures can be posted to:
    alt.binaries.pictures.plushies
    alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.plushies
    alt.binaries.erotica.beanie-babies

    Also, 'alt.lifestyle.furry' is a 'furry' newsgroup where plushophilia
    is on-topic, and 'de.alt.fan.pluesch' is a German plushie NG.

    12) Are there any plushie web sites I can browse?

    Of course! Here are a few for starters:

    FoxWolfie Galen's Furry Plushie Page
    http://velocity.net/~galen/
    (Established in April 1994 - probably the first adult plushie page)

    Max's Plushie Page
    http://www.sonic.net/~maxi/plush.html

    Plush Central
    http://www.personal.isat.com/captpackrat/plush/
    (Home of the plushieRing)

    W e bKitty's Plushies Page
    http://www2.hawaii.edu/~mivillan/plushies.html
    (Discover 25 reasons why stuffed animals are better than men!)

    BlayZe BrightScale's Page
    http://come.to/blayze/

    >From any of these sites, you can follow the 'PlushieRing' to a number
    of other plush-lovers' webpages.

    'Plushie Fandom!' is a message board and chat forum for plushophiles
    on the World Wide Web. Come join us at:
    http://www.delphi.com/plushie_fandom

    13) Are there fursuit web sites I can browse, too?

    One of the most comprehensive webpages on fursuits is at:
    http://www.best.com/~nico/fursuit.cgi
    There you will find links to many other fursuit-related webpages.

    14) I've seen some unusual terms used here. What do they all mean?

    We plushies have come up with a lot of unique jargon over the years.
    You can look up the meaning of just about any word or abbreviation we
    use at:
    http://velocity.net/~galen/plushlex.txt

    15) What is the 'Plush Code'?

    It's a categorical code of letters and symbols that's used to summarize
    ones personal plush preferences. The key to translate someone's Plush
    Code can be found at:
    http://velocity.net/~galen/plushcod.txt

    16) How can I clean a plushie?

    This subject is worthy of a FAQ by itself. It's a complex question,
    not only because many stuffed animals have individual qualities that
    require different approaches to cleaning, but also because it seems
    most of us have different ideas about how to clean our plush friends.
    As for myself, I think the best way to keep a stuffed animal clean is
    to try not to get it dirty in the first place. Most importantly, I
    always make sure *I* am clean before I handle or snuggle my plushies,
    because inevitably, whatever grime is on my hands, clothes, or body is
    going to end up in my cuddlemate's plush. Dirt, dust, body oil, sweat,
    skin flakes, hair, lint, even the smoky fallout from one's kitchen -
    all these foreign substances will accumulate in a plushie's fur over
    time, and getting them out - especially if the fur has become tangled
    or matted - can be a major chore. Since most stuffed animals are
    'limited editions' which years from now won't be replaceable, keeping
    a favorite plushie clean is crucial to prolonging its life.

    On a week-to-week basis, the best thing to do for a regularly-cuddled
    plushie is to give it a good thorough combing. This will minimize the
    tendency for the fur to get tangled and matted. Plush that you have
    around the house just for display purposes should be combed at least
    once monthly to get the dust out of their fur. Make sure to use a comb
    that is dedicated solely for the purpose of grooming your plushies,
    though. Anything that is on a comb will work its way into a plushie's
    fur, too, and you definitely don't want to get scalp oils, dander, or
    the residue of styling gunk embedded into a stuffed animal's plush.

    For simple clean-ups, there is an excellent commercial product called
    'Bubble G u n d' that works wonders on plush that is moderately soiled.
    Spray lightly onto the soiled area, rub it into the plush with a clean
    dry towel, let it dry thoroughly, then buff the fur briskly with
    another clean dry towel. The results are usually quite pleasing.

    Sometimes, however, radical surgery is required to clean a seriously
    dirty plushie. This should only be done, though, if you're skilled in
    the art of sewing. Undo enough of the seams to completely remove the
    stuffing, then hand-wash the plush 'skin' in a dilute solution of a
    mild detergent like Woolite. After you're done with the hand-washing,
    dry the fur by hand, as well. Re-stuff the plushie using only fresh
    new Poly-fil (available at most arts and crafts stores), and re-sew.

    Be aware that semen or vaginal fluid can mar plush fur if it's left to
    dry untreated. If this concerns you, be sure to comb and dry the fur
    thoroughly right after sex, and untangle all the stuck-together plush.
    If the sexual fluid has already dried, re-moisten it with a damp
    cloth, and then untangle the plush.

    Whatever method you choose to clean a plushie, try to avoid soaking the
    inner stuffing. Some stuffed animals are indeed made to be machine
    washable, but most are not, and getting the stuffing wet will at best
    make a plushie undesirably lumpy inside, and at worst, ruin it by
    encouraging the internal growth of mold and mildew rot.

    17) How can I modify a plushie?

    As alluded to above, there are two principal ways people may modify
    plushies for sex. One is to form a space for penetration. This type
    of modification is called a 'strategically-placed hole' (SPH). The
    other basic type of modification is to give a plushie a maleness, for
    receptive sex, or simply for anatomical correctness. This is called
    a 'strategically-placed appendage' (SPA). The specific techniques of
    how to create these modifications are really beyond the scope of this
    FAQ, however. If you have questions about mods, though, post them to
    the group, and someone will likely know where or to whom to direct you.

    18) Where can I buy plushies on the net?

    This FAQ used to include a list of plushie resources on the Internet,
    but it became too much work to keep it updated. If you'd like to view
    this list, go to one of the three sites below, but bear in mind that
    each of the new hosts have permission to modify the resources list as
    they wish, so the info available at these sites may differ.

    http://velocity.net/~galen/sources.html (or */sources.txt)
    http://www.spottycat.com/marlos/plushres.html (includes updated info
    for Canadian plushie resources)
    http://www.sonic.net/~maxi/plushres.txt

  80. OT: Osama Got Run Over by a Reindeer by Drakin · · Score: 1

    Osama got run over by a reindeer
    Right outside his cave on Christmas eve
    Some folks says there's no such thing as Santa,
    But now even the Taliban believes

    Osama thought we'd never find him,
    But even little children know
    Santa knows who's been real naughty,
    In those hard Afghani mountains capped with snow
    Al-Quieda found him Christmas morning
    Face down on that mountain pass.
    There were hoof marks on his turban,
    And a broken reindeer antler up his HO HO HO HO

    Osama got run over by a reindeer
    Peein' near his cave door Christmas eve.
    You can say there's no such thing as karma
    But if you saw those hoof marks you'd believe.

    Osama got run over by a reindeer
    Now he's not around on Christmas day.
    He was hoping he's be meetin' Allah
    But the only thing he met was Santa's sleigh.

  81. Potential Uses? by zipoff · · Score: 1

    If Bin Laden trains his camels to fly, will the U.S. start to use this technology to track him as well?

  82. Bible is conservative <--WRONG!!! by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1
    Myth: The Bible is conservative.

    Fact: Using the Bible to support any political ideology is highly problematic.

    Summary

    The New Testament is a liberal's paradise; almost every principle espoused in it is one that liberals -- not conservatives -- espouse today. (The only exceptions are its pronouncements on divorce, sexuality and slavery.) The Old Testament, however, is a conservative haven, filled with pronouncements favoring war, slavery, theocracy, monarchy, wealth accumulation, capital punishment, extreme female submission and more. Interestingly, however, the Old Testament is sexually permissive. Attempting to use the Bible to justify their modern beliefs therefore poses significant challenges to Christian conservatives.

    Argument

    Does the Bible really espouse conservative philosophies?

    Let us briefly run through the politics of the religious right, just so the comparison will be fresh in our memory. Christian conservatives believe firmly in God, country and family. Self-sufficiency and rugged individualism are highly esteemed qualities; people should pull themselves up their own bootstraps. Becoming rich is a keen goal and almost universally admired. Taxes are seen as a curse. Social programs for the poor are a waste of tax-payers' money, and the sort of people on those programs (mostly blacks) are lazy and given to crime. As for criminals, they should feel the full force of the law. And that goes for international criminals as well... a nation should deal with its enemies from a position of strength, and should never be afraid to let them feel the full force of its military might.

    Were these the politics of Jesus? Let's take a look:

    On defense: Jesus said "Love your enemies" and "Blessed are the peacemakers." "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:44; 5:9; 5:39.)

    On social programs: "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." (Matthew 19:21.)

    On rugged individualism and the pursuit of self-interest: "Love your neighbor as yourself." "So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you." (Matthew 22:39; 7:12.)

    On financial success: "Truly, I say unto you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." "You cannot serve both God and Money." (Matthew 19:23; 6:24.)

    On the philosophy that "greed is good": "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions." (Luke 12:15.)

    On paying taxes: "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." (Matthew 22:22.)

    On crime and punishment: "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." (John 8:7; Matthew 7:1,2.)

    On climbing the social ladder: "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!'" (Matthew 11:19.)

    On money-hungry televangelists: "In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and other sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables." (John 2:14,15.)

    On the free lunch: "Taking the five loaves and two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves... The number of those who ate was about five thousand men..." (Matthew 14:19,21.)

    On the perks and privileges of power: "After that, [Jesus] poured water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him." (John 13:5.)

    On moral absolutes: "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?" "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." (Matthew 12:11; Mark 2:27.)

    On family: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple." Also: "'Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?' Pointing to his disciples, he said, 'Here are my mother and my brothers.'" (Luke 14:26; Matthew 12:48,49.)

    On race relations: In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus praised the morality of a hated foreigner over his own countrymen. (Luke 10:30-37.)

    On the superiority of one's native country: "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.'" (Matthew 10:5,6.)

    On letting others pull themselves up by their own bootstraps: "But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous." (Luke 14:13,14.)

    Modern Christian conservatives may be horrified, but there is no getting around the fact: Jesus was not just a liberal, but a radical liberal! In fact, except for one pronouncement on divorce, there is not one text in all four Gospels which even remotely supports or resembles the conservative's most cherished beliefs. It is a standing challenge to the religious right to find a list of Gospel texts, as I have provided here, which advocates the conservative's philosophies. Not one Christian can give a single example, because these texts do not exist.

    And if anyone remains unconvinced about the deep liberal slant of Jesus and the early Christian Church, a review of their economic policies should remove all doubt forever. The early Christian Church actually serves as history's second example of pure communism! (The first was the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls.) In Paul's Christian Church, the fruits of everyone's labor went into a collective pool, which was then divided evenly among everyone in the group. The following passages from Acts of the Apostles are remarkable in this description:
    • "All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need." (Acts 2:44-45).


    • "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had... There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need." (Acts 4:32,34,35)
    The New Testament itself is filled with countless calls for a redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. As for the rich, they are clearly portrayed as wicked; both Jesus and his apostles condemned them in the harshest terms possible:
    • "But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort. Woe to you who are well fed now, for you will go hungry." (Luke 6:24,25)


    • "Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:25)

      "People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is the root of all evil." (1 Timothy 6:9,10)

      "Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share." (1 Timothy 6:17,18)

      "Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who loved him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?" (James 2:5-7)

      "Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourself in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered innocent men, who were not opposing you." (James 5:1-6)
    Giving to the poor was not just an act of kindness, it was a Christian duty, and Paul ended his letters with a reminder to send money to the poor in Jerusalem. It was this identification with the poor that led them to attack usury, or the loaning of money for interest, in the bitterest terms, for this was seen as exploitation of the poor. In the end, one cannot read the New Testament and escape the conclusion that the Early Christian Church condemned inequality of wealth as one of the greatest of human sins.

    These observations are a disaster for conservatives who try to use the Bible as moral authority for their political opinions. I have had only a few Christians even try to defend them. I present you with the few counter-arguments I have received:

    Jesus came across as radical because he was affecting radical change. True, but you can agree with this observation completely and still not lose sight of the fact that the changes Jesus called for are quite liberal by today's standards.

    Jesus was simply representing the positive side of God's message, namely, his love, mercy and forgiveness; it was left to the apostles to describe God's judgment and wrath against sinners. But even in the later books of the New Testament, you cannot find support for such conservative beliefs as a strong national defense, the superiority of one's own people, tax-cuts for the rich, the pursuit of wealth, or the abolition of welfare programs for the poor. These ideas are still strongly condemned. But, to be truthful, there are two issues which the apostles later developed in the New Testament which could be construed as conservative. The first is a profound anti-sexual theme which was not common among Israel (the Jews were quite liberal about sex, as we shall see below); but this anti-sexual bias ran deep throughout the Greek world of Paul's time, where Christianity was to thrive. The second was the apostles' acceptance of slavery. I somehow doubt Christians will be eager to use this latter example.

    Times were different in Jesus day; today we have a different economic and social system. With this argument, conservatives abandon their source of authority. To say that Jesus represented his own time is to say that his words do not matter any more. It means that conservatives cannot use the Bible as the moral authority for their modern viewpoints. They may admit that their political views are based on their own logic and reason, but they must stop there, and cease to claim that these views come from the New Testament, because they do not.

    The Old Testament is filled with philosophies that conservatives agree with today. This is, in fact, the most common conservative defense. From the condemnation of homosexuals to the praise of wealth and national defense, the Old Testament is indeed a conservative's paradise. And Jesus himself said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17.) But this argument fails on a single point. If the Old Testament were still valid, we would still be obeying it. That is, Christians would still be bringing doves into the temple for slaughter upon the altar. We would still be sinning for planting two different crops in the same field, or wearing two different fabrics at once. Even the least educated Christian knows that a profound difference occurred at the cross, and that a different set of rules came into play. Those rules can be found in the New Testament, and they are overwhelmingly liberal.

    Even so, falling back on the Old Testament often backfires for Christian Conservatives. The problem is that the Old Testament goes too far to the right. The Old Testament was not only undemocratic, it featured a monarchy. (1 Samuel 8.) Social inequality not only existed, but was embodied in slavery. In fact, it was legal to beat slaves so severely that they could not get up for a day or two. (Exodus 21:21.) Children were not only expected to respect their parents; their parents could legally kill them if they didn't. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21.) Women not only had a submissive and inferior status to men, they were considered chattel. (Genesis 3:16, Exodus 21:7-11, Numbers 30.) God not only ordered Israel to initiate wars of aggression, but ordered Israel to kill all captive men and non-virgin women, and to bring the virgin women into sexual slavery. (Deuteronomy 7:1,2, Numbers 31.) God even ordered the suckling infants of the enemy to be massacred. (1 Samuel 15:3.)

    Interestingly, there is one area of the Old Testament that runs diametrically opposed to the conservative's most cherished values: sexuality. Of course, many conservatives frequently cite the Old Testament laws against incest, homosexuality and bestiality (Leviticus 18:6,22,23). But in almost all other sexual matters, the Old Testament is really quite permissive. There were no laws prohibiting pre-marital and non-marital sex, and only a few stipulations to this liberty were explicitly stated. One was that if a man seduces a virgin, he must pay a bride-price and marry her. (Exodus 22:16.) However, the law says nothing about non-virgins, including divorced or widowed women. Also, a wife found guilty of adultery could be stoned to death along with her lover. (Deuteronomy 22:22.) However, no law prevented a married man from carrying on with as many affairs as he pleased, as long as they were not with other men's wives. For a man, divorce was both legal and easy to obtain, if for no other reason that she displeased him. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4.) Prostitution was illegal for Jewish women, but it was permitted for foreigners. (Deuteronomy 23:17.) However, many Jewish women became prostitutes as well. The practice was widely tolerated by the authorities, and considering how many scriptural warnings were voiced against harlots, it is clear they did a thriving business.

    If Christian conservatives find all this alarming, it gets worse. Polygamy was not only allowed, but King Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines were recorded as a matter of national pride. (1 Kings 11:3.) Concubines served the role of secondary wives; they were often, but not necessarily, purchased servants. As for purchased female servants, male masters were allowed to have sex with them (Exodus 21:7-11), a practice which Christians defend by claiming that the rights of these slaves were "well-regulated." (!) If a male soldier found a female captive to be attractive, he could force marriage, and therefore sexual relations, on her. (Deuteronomy 21:10-14.) In modern society, this is called rape.

    Except for a distinct misogyny and homophobia, the ancient Jews were generally free of sexual repression. Like most cultures and religions of the world, they celebrated heterosexual pleasure as a gift from God. This positive view is reflected in Song of Songs, an erotic poem that even becomes sexually explicit:
    • "Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling...' I have taken off my robe -- must I put it on again?... My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him. I arose to open for my lover, and my hands dripped with myrrh, my fingers with flowing myrrh, on the handles of the lock, I opened for my lover..." (Song of Songs 5:2-6)
    The sexual double entendre here is obvious, and has been the source of embarrassment and controversy to Christians for almost 2,000 years. The standard disclaimer is that the author was really describing God's relationship to his people, a view that even the ancient rabbinic scholars taught. But this is still an embarrassment to the sexually repressed philosophies of Christian conservatives, given the overtly sexual nature of the poem. What is more likely is that the author was engaging in the sort of double entendre that often occurred in ancient Jewish writings. Many of their stories and parables having second meanings, just as many of their character's names are actually puns in Hebrew. It seems that the author of the above poem was engaging in this tradition: writing erotica under the guise of religious metaphor.

    Rabbinical scholars also taught that both men and women had a right to receive sexual pleasure in marriage.

    Jesus did not seem bent on fundamentally reforming Jewish law and culture on sex and marriage. His only statement on the subject was that it was wrong for a man to divorce his wife for any reason, not just adultery. (Matthew 5:31,32, Luke 16:18). It is easy to see the Jewish context in which Jesus was arguing, and that he was only concerned about refining the existing law, not revolutionizing it. (However, Jesus also mentions in Mark 10:12 that a woman cannot divorce her husband and marry another man without committing adultery. Controversy surrounds the point of whether the woman in this case is the initiator of divorce, or merely has been divorced.)

    So where did the sexual repression of the New Testament come from? It first surfaces in the writings of Paul, and worsens with the other apostles. That is because these writers generally come from the Greek world, where the anti-sexual philosophies of Greek Stoicism were dominant. Paul was born and raised in Tarsus, an important Greek trading port which was also the birthplace of two famous Stoic philosophers and the site of several excellent Greek schools. Christianity failed to take root in Israel, but it flourished in the Greco-Roman empire. As this new religion swept through that region, it absorbed the anti-sexual tenets of Greek philosophy and then spread them wherever the Christian empire spread, even to the shores of America. Those familiar with this history know that it is horrific; the Church Father Origen, for example, castrated himself in his fear that sexual temptation would deprive him of the kingdom of heaven. And women -- the purveyors of sexual evil -- were so vilified under Christian doctrine that the Inquisition tortured and murdered them for two centuries as "witches". For these reasons, European and American history is filled with a sexual repression and guilt that is unmatched anywhere in the world.

    In summary, both the Old and New Testaments offer profound challenges to modern Christian conservatives who wish to quote the Bible as the basis of their political beliefs.
  83. Tracking Santa?!? by Rumagent · · Score: 1

    So the military is tracking Santa? Hate to think what you are going to do to the poor old bastard, when your missile defence is up an running.

  84. Re:jingle bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *start chorus*
    jingle bell jingle bell
    jingle all the way
    o what fun is it to ride in a one horse open sleigh
    jingle bell jingle bell
    jingle all the way
    o what fun is it to ride in a one horse open sleigh
    *end chorus*

    dashing thru the snow
    in a one horse open sleigh
    o'er the hill we go
    laughing all the way
    bell's on bob tail ring
    making spirit bright
    what fun it is to sing and ride in a one horse open sleigh
    hey

    *chorus*

    AND A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TOO
    HO HO HO

  85. Terrorism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you think there will be a terrorist attack on US on Christmas or New Year when everybody is having fun?

  86. Re:jingle bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Santa?

  87. Christmas Eve in NORAD by Aldes13 · · Score: 1

    I remember working at NORAD during Christmas Eve on several occasions. The operator would patch over phone calls from children all over the states. The head officials at NORAD had a transcript prepared for the current events of Santa Claus. Over the course between 5:00pm to about 10:00pm, our office would receive hundreds of phone calls. Most of the callers were shy and very young kids that didn't say more then a few words over the phone. We'd also get the adults calling up either drunk or curious if the whole system was even working.

  88. Re: Santa got a waiver from the feds by netringer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even though there is no more "Enhanced Class B" airpace in the U.S., Santa DID get permission to fly from the U.S. government.

    The Experimental Aircraft Association filed a flight waiver request for Santa which was granted by the Federal Aviation Administration.

    Earlier he got permission directly from U.S. Secretary of Transportation Norman Y. Mineta.

    In spite of this, Santa flies VFR (Visual Flight Rules) and it it is up to him to "see and avoid" other traffic in the air.

    --
    Ever dream you could fly? Get up from the Flight Sim. I Fly
  89. Many flights can be tracked by netringer · · Score: 1

    Santa's not the only one who gets tracked by the US government. There is no privacy in the U.S, airspace system. All aircraft that have been assigned unique transponder codes, usually on an instrument flight plan, can be located and tracked, based on which Air Traffic Control facility has control of the flight.

    These sites . will show you the current location of any commercial flight. There are others that will track and locate corporate jets..

    http://www.google.com/search?q=flight+tracking&btn G=Google+Search

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    Ever dream you could fly? Get up from the Flight Sim. I Fly
  90. broken link by thatrez · · Score: 1

    the link to main page works right, but in that page all the Realmedia links don't work.... oh wait... no surprise, they're hosted on AOL :)

  91. Bah Humbug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've used methods of Behaviorist Psychology to get my child to say "Santa Claus, the LIE of the Century!" anytime the "old elf" is named.


    Stop and think - why do we spend years of our children's lives trying to convince them that this invention of the Greeting Card, Soda, and Department store industries is really true? Then, we are quite astonished when years later they come up not believing in God etc. Yet another example of a crazy culture.

  92. FILLER STORY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this news for nerds?

  93. "Family Values" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's even cooler how it shows the family values side of our government"

    Which comes back as "A PR budget".
    BTW, Governments have no family values, nor souls or sentiments.

    Just a greed to increase their Rule.

    Hoping to read from you in the future (I mean, if the FBI don't come to arrest me for Anti-US thought...also, if NaZi ModeRatOr don't make me -20 / Troll, which is why I will AC for now 8p )

  94. Is Santa Satan? by jason_g_haines · · Score: 1

    Santa is an anagram of Satan.
    Both like the colour red.
    Never seen together at the same time.