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Star Trek TNG DVDs

pgudge writes "startrek.com had a post about the paramount release of Star Trek The Next Generation on DVD. Claimed a around $100 for the season pack, including 7 DVD's. And that other season are to be released every other month thereafter. all done in Dolby Digital 5.1. Release date expected 26th march" Good way to watch them without suffering through TNN's ridiculous image squashing technology (Proudly proving that in the future everyone is either a pro wrestler, or shaped like a pear!)

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  1. what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by jd142 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now if only Babylon 5 could get the same treatment. Buffy is on the way. And Simpsons 1st season is out.

    Anyone have any more info?

    1. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by gibodean · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, we've already got Buffy DVDs seasons 1 to 3, and Angel season 1 in Australia.

      Just get yourself a region free player, and order from here (or New Zealand). I think the UK has them too.

    2. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by rodgerd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been waiting in eager anticipation of the Babylon 5 DVD sets, but Warners have started releasing everything in Region 4 as cheap, shittily made NTSC DVDs, for chrissake.

      Shitheads.

  2. I forget.... by DAldredge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do we hate the MPAA this week or not???

    1. Re:I forget.... by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

      FYI, we hate it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
      We like it Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday
      and we alternate Sundays.

      Get with the program.

  3. great! by Syre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Great!

    This means I'll be able to download the shows real soon now on Morpheus, Gnutella or EDonky2000!

    1. Re:great! by ywwg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      unless of course you want the picture quality, 5.1 sound, and extra features, not to mention no downloads that take all night, crap out, and have some Hax0rs watermark all over them

      and for 100$, it's a bargain

  4. DVD Only Special Feature: by Nathdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    DVD Only Special Feature:

    *Skip Holodeck Episodes.

    :)

    1. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about:

      *Skip First Season?

      ;)

    2. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by wo1verin3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hrm..if we couple that feature, with the ability to skip over Episodes centered around transporter accidents, we could fit the entire series on to an 8-track.

    3. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by servasius_jr · · Score: 5, Funny

      DVD Only Special Feature:

      *Skip Holodeck Episodes.


      Yeah, it's really easy to pick out those end-of-season low-on-cash episodes: "Data's cat suffers from distemper and Worf learns a lesson about sharing when he takes square-dancing lessons on the holodeck. Picard gets a haircut. Wesley shaves for the first time."

    4. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by brogdon · · Score: 3, Funny

      What, and miss Counselor Troi in the short skirt and knee-high boots they stuck her in through the first season? I guess they thought they needed some thigh to keep the borderline geeks coming back, so they added a splash of "Sex Kittens go to Mars" to the series. :)

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    5. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by CaseyB · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, it's really easy to pick out those end-of-season low-on-cash episodes

      Three words: "Shades of Grey".

      I can't recall the exact details, but one of the writers/producers' own comments on the show was "It's shit. Utter shit.".

  5. TNN is bad? by spacefem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I kinda like watching TNG on TNN, it's weird, I know, but it adds to the atmosphere. So much of Star Trek is like a big party, a community, I don't always feel right watching it myself in the comfort of my own home, I like the feeling that millions of losers are watching it with me. Anybody else catch techTV's little stints at the Star Trek Experience lately? Excellent, nothing like an interview with a real Klingon to remind you that the culture is out there, not on your DVD shelf.

    1. Re:TNN is bad? by Phexro · · Score: 4, Funny

      "That is a gross misuse of the word "culture"."

      nonsense.

      From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

      Culture \Cul"ture\, n.
      1. (Biol.)
      (a) The cultivation of bacteria or other organisms in
      artificial media or under artificial conditions.

      for example, not showering for eight full days because you're too busy watching star trek.

  6. Will they play on your machines? by -douggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All seven discs are encoded with the Macrovision(TM) AntiCopy process. The above information pertains to the North American release only.

    When are we getting them in region 2? Will ours be macrovision free? As we know only you US guys copy them to VHS for leet pirate salez :o)

    This post is not serious

    1. Re:Will they play on your machines? by AntiNorm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why the heck would they want to region-protect STTNG DVDs anyway? The industry claims that region coding is there so that they can control the release of movies, etc. -- but STTNG is no movie. If they use region coding on something like this, the MPAA's argument for having region coding gets flushed down the drain. It becomes quite apparent (as if it wasn't already) that region coding is there for more than what they claim it is.

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  7. This is better... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    then the way they packaged the original series, by putting 2 episodes per DVD and charging $20-$30 per 2 episodes.

    I'll be collecting these, and hoping the original series, as well as Voyager is released in this fashion.

    I can't imagine DS:9 would sell quite as well... :)

    1. Re:This is better... by Masem · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I've read they've committeed to doing the full TNG run as series packaging, and will decide if the same is merited for DS9 and VOY depending on sales (and compare with TOS). If this method works, then they'll rerelease TOS in series format as well.

      I hope more TV series are released in this fashion. For example, Farscape is still 2eps a disk, making it unweldly to get. If you consider that you can cut the cost of production by having one large inset booklet and combined packaging, it's much more reasonable on both end of the sale.

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  8. YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's about time bloody time Paramoun! Who would pay $20 for 2 episodes on a VHS/DVD ?? X-Files on DVD did it right from the beginning. Each season for ~ $120.

    Now we just need Babylon 5, Futurama, Deep Space 9, and Red Drawf on DVD and I'd be a happy sci-fi geek! Oh yeah, and the complete Lord of the Rings. ;-)

  9. I'll wait for now... by supernova87a · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I enjoy watching Star Trek TNG (and none of the other series for some reason), I won't be rushing out to buy this set. I just watched one of the first series episodes on TNN last week, and it was awful -- just like I remember.

    If you want to see bad dialog, melodramatic music, poor lighting, etc. then buy this set. Honestly, I feel a little embarassed for the cast and producers when these first episodes are shown on tv...

    Whenever I watch one of these first episodes, I feel like they were trying so hard, yet it just didn't come out right. There were cheesy props, outlandish plot lines, and the thoughtful issues that made later episodes a success weren't yet developed. I enjoy it more when the stories and cast were subtle and nuanced. These episodes stand out like an ugly sore in TNG's generally good later work.

    I'll wait till the uniforms change -- that's one of the turning points!

  10. Complete Seasons on DVD by Champaign · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was really excited initially when I saw they started releasing complete seasons of shows on DVD. Since getting a couple, truth be told, I hardly watch them at all... There's some things that I'm willing to invest the energy to put on and watch, and other things that I'm only willing to pick up when channel surfing.

    The only thing I've found them really valuable for is when someone hasn't seen a series, and I want to show them a few episodes (e.g. The Sopranos). I was delighted to get the first season of "The Simpsons" and tore through the special features, but haven't watched a single episode from it. Something like TNG everyone's seen and I really can't see myself getting a craving to see "Data's Day" and throwing it on...

    Am I a freak or do other people buy these things and not watch them?

  11. Months TNG DVDs will be released by bigdreamer · · Score: 3, Informative

    A new season will be released every other month

    March 2002: Season 1
    May 2002: Season 2
    July 2002: Season 3
    Septemeber 2002: Season 4
    November 2002: Season 5
    January 2003: Season 6
    March 2003: Season 7

    I can only afford 1 season. Which one should I get for my Dad? He likes them all.

    1. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by bytor4232 · · Score: 5, Informative
      I would say season 5 has to be one of the best:
      1. "Unification" with Leonard Nemoy was great. I love Picard calling Spock a "Cowboy Diplomat.".
      2. "Cause and Effect" is great as well, wonderful concept of "causality" loop made for a great story.
      3. "First Duty" was another good one, if for nothing but seeing Wes in the hot seat.
      4. "I Borg" with the borg "Hugh" becoming an individual was a great episode
      5. "The Next Phase" is another good episode, as much of a weenie Geordi was, this was a good one with Geordi as one of the primary stars.
      6. "The Inner Light" is my all time favorite episode. This is the one where a probe imprints Picard with all the experiences and trials of an entire society by making Picard live a life of one of the peoples.
      There are other episodes as well. I felt this was the pinnacle of their acting and story development. Don't get me wrong thou, seasons six and seven are awesome as well.
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    2. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which one should I get for my Dad? He likes them all.


      Well, I'm not exactly objective here, but I think the 4th season was the best one. I can't quote you titles and guest stars (and I'm sure I'll catch hell for that), but I thought we had more winners than losers that year.

      And, of course, in a flash of brilliance, I chose to celebrate that streak of great shows by quitting.

  12. Advantages of TNN image squashing by yerricde · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can you explain this "image squashing technology" for us non-Americans? Do they change the aspect ratio?

    TNN (The National Network, formerly The Nashville Network before Viacom bought it, moved all its programming to CMT, and turned TNN into a TBS/USA clone) vertically scales the image on many of its shows into the top 6/7 or so of US TV's 240 visible scanlines. In the bottom 1/7, TNN displays its logo and unobtrusive textual advertisements. Good points: It lets TNN go longer without a commercial interruption, it moves the captions out of the way of the picture, and it's easily switched off for broadcasting letterboxed feature films. Bad point: It modifies the image.

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    1. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3

      If you use something like dscaler to watch TV and combine that with a window resizing program that can stretch windows off-screen like YxY, then it would be trivial to stretch the image back to the right proportion and then put the "ad-bar" off the bottom of the screen. If you don't watch TV on your computer you are probably SOL, but lots of people have got them hooked up to their projection systems and HDTV sets. This is an MS-Windows based solution though....

      dscaler
      YxY

      (you might not even need YxY with the more recent versions of dscaler).

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  13. Can we can an official comment... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    from Will Wheaton?

    How does he feel about bringing back those childhood nightmares of being Mr Crusher?

  14. Uh huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful



    Slashdot (to MPAA): You fucking fascists. We hate you.
    MPAA: But look at these shiny colors!
    Slashdot: Oooh! How much?

    1. Re:Uh huh. by HydroCarbon10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and then there's the ever popular:

      Slashdot (to Microsoft): We hate you, go away!
      Microsoft: But we've got DOA3 with realistic bouncing women
      *slashdot hands over it's collective soul

      Go ahead, mod this down. You know, deep down, that you are spineless and have sold out your beliefs for entertainment.

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  15. Re:Paramount gets it right. by servasius_jr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is Enterprise still on? Did it even make it past the first six episodes?

    Um, yes. This is an honest question.


    Yup. New episodes in January, I believe. I think those pouty Vulcan lips will keep the show going long enough to hit its stride and attract a following. With some luck, they'll rethink the music.

  16. Can't they count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why can't they manage to get the shows in order on the DVD's?

    Disc 1: Encounter at Farpoint Parts 1 & 2 (episodes 101, 102), The Naked Now (103), Code of Honor (104)

    Disc 2: The Last Outpost (107), Where No One Has Gone Before (106), Lonely Among Us (108), Justice (109)

    Disc 3: The Battle (110), Hide and Q (111), Haven (105), The Big Goodbye (113)

    Disc 4: DataLore (114), Angel One (115), 11001001 (116), Too Short a Season (112)

    Disc 5: When the Bough Breaks (118), Home Soil (117), Coming of Age (119), Heart of Glory (120)

    Disc 6: The Arsenal of Freedom (121), Symbiosis (123), Skin of Evil (122), We'll Always Have Paris (124)

    Disc 7: Conspiracy (125), The Neutral Zone (126), Special Features

    1. Re:Can't they count? by glwtta · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, syndicated shows are often not show in order (various issues with production schedules and the individual stations broadcasting them) and that order is often corrected when they come out on video.

      I certainly don't know if that's the case here, but it's not unheard of.

      What I am wondering is why they only put 4 episodes per disc - minus the commercials an episode is what, 40 minutes or so? They gotta be able to fit more on a DVD, or did they leave the commercial in? ;)

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    2. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 4, Informative
      A dual layer DVD can (according to DVD Demystified) hold over 4 hours of high quality video-- each episode was 45 minutes (commercial free). 240 minutes / 45 minutes = 5.333. They could have fit 5 episodes per disc, with room to spare for the teaser commercials as a per-disc extra. And actually, the author says "over 4 hours" but not by how much.. if it was 4.5 hours, they could have fit 6 episodes possibly per disc. =)

      The only problem is that dual layer discs have that 'layer transition' effect on certain older or low-cost DVD players (the images freezes for a split second while it switches layers).

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    3. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Shrug, the guy only wrote the DVD-FAQ, and the books been copyrighted for 2001. His FAQ is updated regularly, and has in fact been updated in the past week or so. I direct you to these FAQ entries, and you can decide from there if I'm right or wrong (I really could care less either way, I'm happy ST:TNG is making it out on DVD, be it 3 episodes per disc, 4, or 5)--

      http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.21 - [1.21] Why do some discs require side flipping? Can't DVDs hold four hours per side?

      You might also find this question educational--

      http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.3 - [3.3] What are the sizes and capacities of DVD?

      Yes, there are situations where this is false, after all, it IS VARIABLE BIT RATE encoding; but generally speaking, four hours of high quality video is possible on a single side dual layer DVD. If The X-Files has poor quality, I'd lay this at the feet of poor encoding practices (or simply someone lazy at Fox). As you said, it's definately not something that's easy (encoding MPEG2 properly) but it has been done. Plus, and I've noticed this on a number of DVD titles (movies and TV shows), for whatever reason, MPEG2 ruins dark sequences (which I imagine The X-Files has a lot of-- I stopped watching after the sixth season or so). This might be the nature of the beast, or it might be lazy encoders. =) I'm not going to pretend to know.

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  17. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Restil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the problem, primarily with the next generation, is it's just too..... campy. There's no internal conflict. Concepts of a 14 year old boy at the helm seem to go over perfectly with the rest of the crew, many who have spent years and years in training for just such a privalage. People that spend 7 years doing the exact same job and never getting promoted.

    At least DS9 had elements to it which made it more realistic (as realistic as sci-fi can get anyways) and had more interesting story arcs around several common themes. It allowed them to have more character development, and people actually went somewhere.

    We see Nog start the series as a juvinile delinquent and over the years become a respected officer in startfleet. The most growth that any characters show in TNG is Data, and thats for little more than very poorly done comic relief.

    The battles are more intense. Civilians actually get scared when things start blowing up around them. Children of captains somehow don't always aspire to join Starfleet. And sometimes, your most powerful allies are dishonest assassins who used to work for the other side, and if not for exile would gladly join up with them again.

    MUCH more realistic in my opinion.

    -Restil

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  18. Re:Legality Issues by Phexro · · Score: 4, Insightful
    what in the world are you thinking? there are only a few reasons to buy a tv series on dvd:

    • extra features
    • higher quality than tv
    • you're a rampaging collector


    the extra features usually aren't pirated, just the main feature.

    the difference in quality between cable (or digital cable) broadcasts and the dvd probably isn't noticeable after it's been compressed with divx, and if you're a rampaging collector, you'll buy the dvd anyways. and in most cases it would be to replace the collection of vhs tapes that the shows were recorded on, or to pick up that one episode from season n that they're missing.

    they broadcast the episodes for free for chrissakes. i'd feel just as bad about downloading the episodes as i would asking a friend to tape the show for me.
  19. Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if they'll return my calls on this one?
    *grin*

    1. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by sid_vicious · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmmmm.. here's an idea...

      Rent the DVD and while watching it, simultaneously record your *own* commentary track on your PC. MP3 it and sell it to geeks on your website for oh, I dunno, $7. Then we can just hit 'mute' and queue up the MP3 while watching the DVD.

      Heck, I'll pay $10 if you'll do an imitation of Marinia Sirtis. Make it $15 if you throw in a passable William "F'ing" Shatner.

      :-)

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    2. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't mean to be rude, and I do enjoy your posts around here (particularly on Star Trek-related subjects), but the "actor seeks work" joke is getting pretty old. This is what, like the fifth time?

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    3. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right...I think it's the fourth time, and it's really played out...I just couldn't resist, this time...all things considered, and what not. :)

    4. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by merlin_jim · · Score: 3

      That is where you are wrong my friend! The actor seeks work joke will never be old!!!

      Sorry, just had to pipe in real quick.

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    5. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, what are you trying to do? Corner the market on yourself? Or maybe you're hoping to buy up all this stuff, so future generations won't know it ever existed?


      Dude.

      How could I pass up the opportunity to own one of the worst movies ever made? It's like finding "Plan 9 from Outer Space" or the remakes of "Planet of the Apes" or "Psycho"...like a terrible car crash, I can't tear my eyes away...I just happen to be involved in this particular pile of stinking crap, and, believe it or not, I don't already own it...and I'm pretty sure that a DVD version is not on the way.

      ObTrek: Tonight on TNN, I got to hear Worf say my favorite Worfism of all time: "I am not a merry man!"

  20. Re:Outtakes / Bloopers? by bnavarro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know about TNG, but apparantly with each season of Voyager's bloopers, these were compiled onto a tape, played at the season wrap party, and then destroyed. They decided that the bloopers would be reserved for the cast & crew's (one time) enjoyment only.

    A shame too. I read an interview with Jeri Ryan (7 of 9) once, and she gave an anecdote of an amusing blooper where Garret Wang (Ensign Kim) was supposed to grab her elbow to get her attention. She miscued and turned to face him too early, and Garret wound up accidentally grabbing her boob! Apparantly there were many "That's not an elbow" jokes on the set from that point on...

  21. We are not Borg by ajs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to be topical, here, but we are not Borg. The "Slashdot Community" is no more a single hive-mind with but a single thought than any other broad-based subculture (I remember someone explaining to me that this is why the gay community has such a hard time getting anything done).

    When you see one article with folks flaming the MPAA and saying that they (MPAA) needs to be stopped, and another which raves about some new DVD, why would you assume that the same people are interested? Slashdot is correctly reporting on "News for Nerds", it's not censoring "cool MPAA stuff" because it would hurt some particular cause any more than its censoring anti-MPAA stuff; nor should they!

    Now, I very much see the value in pointing out to the "ooh, shiny thing" audience that these brand new nifty DVDs are brought to you by the folks who want to stamp out fair use as if it were a plague, but let's not expect that EVERYONE will listen. Many folks who are geeky enough to care about what Slashdot says have no interest in fair use and what it means to them. I consider this their loss, but it's a valid point of view.

  22. X-files DVD collection by Peter+Dyck · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sopranos, Simpsons, X-Files

    I bought X-files 2nd season a while ago but was thoroughly disappointed in it. The package was nice and audio and visual quality was good, but the "usability" of the disc set was abyssmal.

    First of all, when you start watching an episode you're forced to watch the equivalents of the "FBI warning" in at least four languages. After the episode ends, you get to see another four warnings before you get back to the main menu.

    The main menu is my second gripe. I like to watch TV DVDs like I listen to music. I play them in the background, mostly listening and occasionally watching. What I don't want to do is to click through menus every time an episode ends. I want the all episodes to play consequently without any interaction from me. Unfortunately the X-files collection doesn't let you do that. After watching the episode (and the damn warnings) you have to travel all the way back to the main menu and click on the next episode (and watch the warnings again).