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Space Tourist Standards

Snuffleupagus writes: "I found an interesting story at cnn.com about NASA's new standards for civilian space travel. It looks like if you have a history of drinking, lying and cheating you won't be going into space anytime soon, no matter how much money you have. Looks like I'll be stuck here on Earth for awhile." The guidelines for future space tourists are on NASA's site.

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  1. not true by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    somehow I don't think the russians will care.
    Of course if I say to NASA "I'll give you a billion dollars to send me into space, I have a funny feeling they wouldn't care much either.

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  2. Who then? by gokubi · · Score: 3, Funny

    It looks like if you have a history of drinking, lying and cheating you won't be going into space anytime soon, no matter how much money you have.

    That kills the potential CEO and politician markets...

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    1. Re:Who then? by chinton · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If I had bill gates $, i'd be philanthropic.. I'd just be extremely careful how that money is spent.

      Yeah, cause good ol' Bill isn't philanthropic enough...

    2. Re:Who then? by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Though Gates has done some good things with his money.. He's opened/equipped a library in TN, to start with.

      Gates has done a hell of a lot more then that... He's spent more money tackling things like AIDS and vaccinations in africa and other poor parts of the world then most tech CEOs are worth.

      Not that he isn't a bastard, but I don't think he would really want to spend money sending people to the moon, it dosn't really help anyone and it's already been done.

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  3. lying by NeMon'ess · · Score: 4, Funny
    Lie? No NASA, I've never drank, cheated or lied in my life. Can I go into space now?

  4. Space Nazis by vapor2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No space for you!

  5. The Future by Toby+Truman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This applies just to the space station, it seems, not to space in general. The thing to remember is that NASA has no real authority over space -- It's just space, it doesn't belong to anyone. They *do* have authority, however, over the facilities that we put into space, so they get to call the shots on the space station.

    1. Re:The Future by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      please correct that further... They can control the United states modules of the ISS. The Russians would get mighty pissed if the US space angency tries to tell them what they can do with their property...

      This really only amounts to someone in NASA trying to justify their job and trying to make policy that is pretty much silly and un-warrented.

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    2. Re:The Future by CrazyBrett · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The thing to remember is that NASA has no real authority over space -- It's just space, it doesn't belong to anyone.

      I remember when we used to say that about the internet too.

      Give it time.

  6. Yep... These won't change... by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are the kind of rules that will never change

    Come on. By the time you and I get into space (if we aren't too old), these rules will be changed over 100 times. Think about it.

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    1. Re:Yep... These won't change... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, of course. By the time you and I get in to space, the rules will have to have been changed. Otherwise we wouldn't be there. See?

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  7. No vodka for you by SVDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    (d) habitual use of intoxicating beverages to excess

    Uh, yeah, we wouldn't want to have anyone who uses "intoxicating beverages to excess" to be on a space station with a bunch of Russians.
  8. Rules out congress by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 4, Redundant
    The NASA guidelines rule out most of congress, the senate, and or the last two presidents.


    Congress may hold funding for NASA until there is an exception made for them.

    1. Re:Rules out congress by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > The NASA guidelines rule out most of congress, the senate, and or the last two presidents.

      Better yet...

      "and membership or sponsorship in organizations which adversely affect the public's confidence in the space station or its partners. "

      ...as I see it, it also disqualifies most of NASA ;-)

  9. NASA != Space by seanellis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Subject line says it all, really.

    Commercial spacelines wouldn't be using NASA facilities anyway; they're too expensive.

  10. everyone here won't be allowed to go.... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Other disqualifying traits: criminal, dishonest, infamous or notoriously disgraceful conduct; intentional false statement or fraud; habitual use of intoxicating beverages to excess; abuse of narcotics, drugs or other controlled substances; and....*drum roll please*.......

    membership or sponsorship in organizations which adversely affect the public's confidence in the space station or its partners.

    We have been saying for years that NASA is screwy...guess none of us will get to go.

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  11. Here's an interesting thing by corvi42 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You can be disqualified for:
    "membership or sponsorship in organizations which adversely affect the public's confidence in the space station or its partners."


    Does that mean that a millionaire with a passion for space might be banned for... say... being a member of Greenpeace, because they might think badly of McDonell Douglas for its role as an arms manufacturer?


    Maybe I'm being overly alarmist, but the implications that this clause can diqualify anyone who is even loosely related to anyone that does not wholeheartedly support large corporate power is a little disconcerting.

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  12. Well, this was interesting... by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    (f) membership or sponsorship in organizations which adversely affect the confidence of the public in the integrity of, or reflecting unfavorably in a public forum on, any ISS Partner, Partner State or Cooperating Agency.

    So, how about membership in the National Rifle Association? Veterans of Foreign Wars? Republican Party? Roman Catholic Church?

    If you've ever publicly criticised NASA, you're SOL.

    I mean, this single paragraph allows them to deny you for any or no reason at all.

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  13. Re:Sorry Alabama by ajm · · Score: 4, Redundant

    Rules out Bush too on all three counts. (And also Clinton (for the cheating))

  14. I don't believe it by Triv · · Score: 3, Funny

    It looks like if you have a history of drinking, lying and cheating you won't be going into space anytime soon. Unless you're a celebrity or stinkin' rich, of course. And if you're both you might as well be strapped into that cockpot right now. If, to pick a name at random, Michael Jackson wanted to go into orbit, can you imagine NASA saying NO to the publicity? I can't. (although there is something to be said for the possibility of the National Enquirer headline of "NASA Refuses to Launch Well-Known alien Back into Space!" Bad Publicity as a front-page spread is a good thing) --Triv

  15. Hmmm... by Uttles · · Score: 3

    If you have a history of lying, drinking, and cheating... then you'll probably come up with a way to fool NASA into believing you're a wholesome person!

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  16. Yes, another crazy idea by mrroot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder how much additional money it would generate if the govt had a "lottery" for space travel instead of a you-pay-you-go type thing. I bet they could work it out to generate alot more money per space tourist that way, while giving us ordinary citizens a chance to go.

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  17. Found My Loophole by Mojo+Geek · · Score: 3, Funny

    if you have a history of drinking, lying and cheating

    I'm gonna stake my claim on the boolean "and". I haven't cheated anyone.

  18. The original 7 astronauts wouldn't qualify! by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At least from what you pick up from "The Right Stuff" drinkin' and driving was an admired ability amongst the eary crews. Not a very good role model tho, not at all.

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  19. Oh please... by joto · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is just like the requirements for a basic security clearance. It's not like you can't ever have tasted alcohol (few responsible people haven't).

    They look up your police records and military records, interview you, and some of your (earlier) employers, family, and so on, to try to determine if you are a responsible person. If you aren't, then they won't risk the lives of other astronauts, important space research, huge amounts of money, etc, just to get you into space.

    This is nothing but common sence. You shouldn't trust untrustworthy people. I fail to see the logic behind allowing Osama bin Laden on the space shuttle just because he has enough money.

  20. Not just NASA by markmoss · · Score: 3, Informative

    These aren't just NASA standards, they were agreed on with the international partners. See the Washington Post's article: "More than two years in the making, the criteria allow Russia, the United States, Canada, Japan or the European Space Agency to select station visitors."

  21. security clearance guidelines by mibat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I skimmed over the guidelines for selection in this document and they interestingly look VERY similar to the guidelines for a fed security clearance. (including those about drinking and moral misconduct, which I think are there to prevent blackmail being used to get classified information out of you) ie, if you are working at a military contractor, etc. I wonder if there's any correlation?