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Most Detailed Image Of Earth Yet

TomDM writes "BBC News has a story on how scientists created the most accurate and detailed image of our planet yet, composing the image from satellite data, and adjusting it for the correct colours. "

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  1. Scientists where... by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..suprised to find out that the Earth, is in fact, flat.

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  2. I've been working on this myself. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been taking pictures using my Kodak Advantix camera of the ground in 4ftx3ft areas and collaging them into a large, detailed map of the Earth's surface.

    Because I am trying to keep this as up to date as possible, I reshoot any areas that change. I haven't gotten very far, mostly my yard and part of the driveway.

    1. Re:I've been working on this myself. by jrockway · · Score: 2

      Right. Because those big buildings are hard to locate without someone's glued-together snapshots.

      I'm _so_ tired of listening to people say that every new idea is "terrorist" or something.

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    2. Re:I've been working on this myself. by fenix+down · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't listen to him! He's a terrorist!
      BURN HIM! BURN HIM!

    3. Re:I've been working on this myself. by Fjord · · Score: 2

      Move farther away from the monitor and try again.

      Jeez.

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    4. Re:I've been working on this myself. by csbruce · · Score: 2

      They should definitely get rid of street maps. I'm sure that most terrorists have used them in planning their attacks.

  3. Where? by buserror · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish we had access to that kind of data, as well as elevation data for the whole planet.

    Corelating both, we could have a planetwide flying simulator, or even submarine simulator.

    Then add the higher resolution satellite pictures to enrich the places where you have them, and we'd soon have a hugely interesting data set!

    I did a proto browser like that years ago, correlating the ghhs coastline data set and the etopo5 elevation map (at 1 degree resolution; nothing). And thats still the only vectorial data you can get covering the whole planet, for free.

    it's OUR planet anyway, why can't they release the data? it's not like the resolution is enought to have any military value anyway!

    1. Re:Where? by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      If you follow the links from MS's terrashare server, you can find a place to order the full survey from the geological survey people. The thing is, it's all flat, and black and white. Not very good for a flight sim type app.

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    2. Re:Where? by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      s/terrashare/terraserver

      :)

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    3. Re:Where? by tap · · Score: 4, Informative
      You have download for free a 30 second resolution digital elevation for the whole planet from the USGS. It's called GTOPO30 and it's been avialable since 1996.

      As to why more isn't avialable for free, it costs money to create data like this. One way or another, someone needs to pay for it. If taxes aren't enough to provide hi-res images of the entire world, then that leaves private enterprise.

    4. Re:Where? by adamp3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      All the data, seperated into hemispheres and at 1 pixel = 1 km resolution (21600x21600 pixel images) is freely available from NASA at:

      ftp://gloria2-f.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/stockli/

      The images are split into versions with or without shaded topography and bathymetry, there's an ice cap map, a landcover map, topography/bathymetry maps, a cloud layer, and the city lights image.

      They're in RAW format ("Open As.." in Photoshop).
      Be prepared to wait a while for them to open.

    5. Re:Where? by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 2

      Actually almost all of the MODIS data used to produce this image is available for free, in its original raw format.

      I've ordered lots of data from the MISR instrument (which is similar to MODIS, and is on the same satellite), and basically you just pick the swaths you want and give them your email address. Later they send you email with an ftp site where you can download that swath. You can get as much as you want if you have the bandwidth. Be warned: these aren't JPEG images, they're raw HDF files, so you'll need to download some specialized tools or write some code to parse them.

      Order Click here to MODIS data
    6. Re:Where? by mskfisher · · Score: 2

      I did this a few years ago with Pov-Ray. The resulting fly-bys were quite impressive for a 486.

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  4. seems like a lot of trouble for nothing... by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wouldn't this have been a lot easier?

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  5. path radience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is an image of what the ground looks like from the ground, not from space. Path radience effects the eye just like a camera. Not explained well in the article...

  6. Link? by GigsVT · · Score: 2

    That is messed up. The have a link to the high res version of the "old view", but no links to the high res versions of the new-improved image. Does anyone have any links to a larger version?

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  7. Desktop Wallpaper!!!! by Zach+Garner · · Score: 2

    Where can I get it in 2,048 by 1,536 resolution??

    1. Re:Desktop Wallpaper!!!! by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm waiting for a 1to1 scale map...

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  8. Links to actual pictures by willybur · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look at the NASA MODIS site here if you want to actually see the pictures...

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  9. High Res Links by mr_gerbik · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nasa has some High Res versions here.

    Yes.. you too can download a 410MB TIFF of the earth ;)

    1. Re:High Res Links by geekoid · · Score: 2

      thas just for one hemisphere, its another 210 megs for the other hemisphere.

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    2. Re:High Res Links by Wanker · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nuts. Looks like they responded pretty quickly to the hordes of nerds all trying to grab 400MB for their own viewing pleasure.

      Large File Access

      The file you have selected is approximately 410.41 MB. At this time we are providing access to these files on a restricted basis. If you would like access to this file (#11662), please contact Tara Hess, eobweb@eob.gsfc.nasa.gov

      Time to post the mirrors? Or is it time to collectively spam poor Tara?

    3. Re:High Res Links by Leebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't suppose you could make an "emergency allocation" for bandwidth? =)

      I'm eating pringles as fast as I can!

  10. I want one. by red5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want a poster for my wall.
    That would be rad.
    Even better if they print it with light sensitve ink.
    So when I turn out the lights I get the night version.

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    1. Re:I want one. by Alan · · Score: 2

      You want xplanet and a big ass flat screen monitor that you can hang on the wall :)

    2. Re:I want one. by juju2112 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You actually can buy a poster of the nighttime earth picture. I had my mom get it for me for Christmas last year. It's really awesome -- It's mounted on my wall in the living room in a nice frame.

      http://www.weatherexperts.com/catalog/item.htm?cid =1&iid=48&start=1

    3. Re:I want one. by juju2112 · · Score: 2

      I know this story is way old, but for the record: I found another site that sells posters of the daytime picture.

      http://www.adsat.com/thumnail/catalog/livearth.htm

  11. That has got to be... by Zildy · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...the holy grail of Risk boards.

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  12. Karma Whoring by bigdreamer · · Score: 5, Informative

    This goes to the directory of the newest images.

  13. Blue Marble... by tcyun · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I believe that this all stems from work done by NASA's
    Blue Marble project.

    If you go to the site, they have some great, high-resolution images of the earth during the day, night, by hemisphere, etc. A great source for desktops or just browsing for fun.

    1. Re:Blue Marble... by cygnusx · · Score: 2

      Gee, some of these pics are so lovely, they must be violating an Apple patent on translucent blue thingys or something...

      ;-)

  14. This planet looks familiar... by jbum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe this is the same project that was reported February 8th as "Blue Marble".

  15. works great in xplanet by Alan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone who wants to use this for xplanet (a very cool globe program for *nix) can. There's a nice 2400x1200 version floating around somewhere, that combined with Hans Ecke's scripts, will create just awsome images for your desktop.

    1. Re:works great in xplanet by Alan · · Score: 2

      There are a few links on the xplanet homepage to other xplanet ports or links.

  16. Publicity stunt with altered photos by danspalding · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This whole thing smells like PR for NASA so they can get an adequate budget. Using IR cameras to measure global warming, measuring the changes in the icecaps, that makes sense. But a big dorm-room poster? This is right up there with putting a camera on the Mars rover. Neat, but what did it accomplish?

    What bugs me is that the Earth is made to look prettier than it is. Where are the cities? If you didn't know better, you'd think the planet's one big grassy plain with a desert in the middle. It's clear they made cosmetic touch-ups, right down to the cloud photos they chose to make the photo look more "typical."

    And while it's great to see the planet without any clouds, if by "clouds" you mean "smog and pollution," then you might as well be editing out cities. You just don't end up with a meaningful view of the planet if you leave out how we've changed it.

    This doesn't appear to be a useful, or even honest, project. It's more of a publicity stunt.

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  17. Exit strategy already? by 2Bits · · Score: 2

    Last one out, turn off the light

    Hmm, joke aside, this sentence sends a thrill down my spine, thinking of the day when human kind has screwed the planet up so badly that we have to move on.

    I don't know about you, but last time I checked, Earth is still the best place to live. So let's take care of our home, while we still can.

  18. Japan by Sivar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Japan is lit mor brightly than Las Vegas, or anywhere else in the word for that matter. Talk about population density.

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  19. AVHRR is comparitively old by xixax · · Score: 2
    The article is pretty light on how they processed the data. Blue Marble goes into the detail a bit more (and has a link to tech references, but it seems to be dead). It's a 1 km resolution image, and the funkiness is not the resolution, but the colour balancing and whatnot. You try taking a panorama with your camera and try getting the colours to match across photos for even just a few pictures.

    Xix.

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  20. "Last one out, turn off the light" by xueexueg · · Score: 2, Informative
    That's the caption on the last image on the story, a composite of the earth at night. I've always been a little creeped out by those images of a lighted-up Earth skeleton; I mean, it's neat to see the Megalopoleis of the world, and the way that all these tiny, weak lights come together to make brighter lights, visible from space.

    But it's also incredibly apocalyptic, to me.

    If my little 75-watt porch light contributes to light pollution enough to be visible from space, it really makes tangible the effect of the other kinds of pollution that that light must create. A tiny bit of coal here, a puff of gas there; without my (or anyone else's) thinking about it, it turns into something that's fucking visible from space.

    So when the caption is "Last one out, turn off the light", all that does is drive home for me how even the tiniest decisions I make -- leaving the porch light on all night so robbers can't steal my luxuries -- affect the whole world.

    Blimey, we're all killing eachother: cheerio, last one out, be a dear, turn off the light, eh?

  21. Color Error... by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...every square kilometre of the globe was covered... the final map represents the Earth's actual tint and hue.

    For the record, if I'd known NASA was working on this, I would've reseeded my lawn. I didn't think anyone but the neighbors would notice the dead patches. My apologies...

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    1. Re:Color Error... by mandolin · · Score: 2
      the final map represents the Earth's actual tint and hue.

      I thought the whole thing was too dark. Then I turned up my monitor. Now it's even more actual.

  22. Hm. by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 3, Funny
    To: maint
    From: eng
    Subj: 1055CM STILL out of ink

    Hey guys, the 36-inch color inkjet printer still seems to be out of ink. I thought you guys were going to come out and replace the cartridge two hours ago.

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  23. Re:No New Zealand..... by geekoid · · Score: 2

    I guess I'm just geographically ignorant, but I though New Zealand were those 2 "Islands" nest to OZ. Where is it actually supposed to be at?

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  24. To Get Your own High Quality Copy by BlackGriffen · · Score: 2, Informative

    go to This web site [http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/]. They make excellent desktop pictures! BlackGriffen Basking in the glow of the karma whoring light... :D

  25. Earth 1.0 by Sarin · · Score: 2

    Would be cool if someone would use these images to generate Earth 1.0 a la Snowcrash, for those who haven't read Snowcrash, Earth 1.0 was a utility that gave live feeds from satellites, you could see the clowds all over earth but also you could zoom in very deep and see people move around.

    The last part is not feasable ofcourse because the static earth-images would be sitting on your drive, eating up a lot of space. But lower detail satellite images from the internet could be used to dynamically generate the cloud surface on top of the high detail images so zooming would be possible and it would almost be like Earth 1.0

    I once saw a simular app in java but the graphics were quite bad.

  26. Where can I buy one by trenton · · Score: 2

    Am I the only person that thinks things like this make cool posters? Any idea if you can buy one? Where?

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  27. Glowing Blue Coastlines? by mliu · · Score: 2

    For anyone who is in the know and has downloaded the high resolution pictures, can you explain what those glowing blue patches you see by the coasts are? They're especially prominent in the one with clouds, but there's a pretty bright one off the coast of Cuba and Florida too in the loudless one.

    Considering this is supposed to be true color, I'm really curious, since I've never seen anything like these in normal pictures of the Earth from space. In the cloudy one it almost looks like someone spilled radioactive waste all over South America and Europe or something....

  28. The Explanation (was Re:No New Zealand.....) by orcrist · · Score: 3, Funny

    The explanation is: NASA didn't want to direct their cameras on Mordor (which we now know is locate in New Zealand) since Sauron might have taken control of the satellites. Where would we be then? I applaud NASA's foresight in this matter.

    well...
    alright, actually they're only cropped off on the BBC site, the original pictures are complete, so blame BBC :-)

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  29. This thread by wiredog · · Score: 2

    is the funniest thing I've seen on slashdot in months.

  30. So what does it mean? by RNLockwood · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this the way the earth would look in spring time for all regions, or in the wet time for all reagions, or in the summer for all regions, or when there is the most photosynthesis for all regions? Remember it's summer south of the equater when it is winter north of the equator. In central brazil it's the rainy season but in the north east it's the dry season. So what does it mean?

    Well, it's cool anyway.

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  31. Re:Americans can read maps and take abuse from dop by poemofatic · · Score: 2
    The relative size/importance of knowledge is a good argument, and I tend to use it when explaining to Europeans why many in the US are not bilingual. But I don't think it works so well in this case because

    We've got troops in half the world, so the relative importance to an American of, say, Slovenia, is much higher than to an Aussie.

    The flipside of your argument is that our responsibility to be aware of the world is proportional to our influence over it. Living in a democracy, it's no excuse to say "I never approved of this atrocity". So it starts to be pretty important that people know what's going on, say in Uzbekistan. And who we are going to bed with there. Many in the rest of the world are pissed off/amazed at how we allow our government to send military aid to regimes who are conducting mass murder (e.g. Turkey), or train/give loans to security forces in repressive, fanatical regimes (Saudi Arabia). They rightly conclude that popular ignorance lets our govt. get away with murder. So the responsibility to be more informed than everyone else is on our shoulders. In this respect, it doesn't matter how much geography a Canadian knows.

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  32. full scale by passion · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a map of the United States. It's full scale. It says on the side: "one inch equals one inch." Last Summer I folded it.

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  33. Obligatory Comment by ColaMan · · Score: 2


    "I can see my house from here!"

    Well, somebody had to say it.

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  34. Movies, amd More by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The bigger flat pictures and movies, although the 400 meg tiff files are on another page:

    http://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/Blue Marble/

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  35. Re:No New Zealand..... by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2

    New Zealand is there. It's just the same color as the ocean, so it doesn't show up.
    -russ

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  36. Here (I think) by helo2u · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This might be an older version of it, but it's good enough for me.

  37. Re:So where is the Great Wall of China by PyroMosh · · Score: 2

    I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question?

    If not, well... China. ( :