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Fighting Spam on the Home Front

Saint Aardvark writes: "Something interesting from the SecurityFocus Honeypot mailing list: a couple of honeypots for spammers. This message has a link to a how-to page for setting up a Sendmail honeypot to trap spammers, and the status page for a honeypot in Moscow that's trapped spam meant for >1.7 million recipients. The author mentions using a honeypot in conjunction with the Distributed Checksum Clearinghouse -- this seems like a great way identify both spammers and their messages."

And C-Moan writes: "Wireless spam volume is likely to increase in the coming years. But smart use of spam-fighting measures can go a long way toward eliminating the problem. This article provides info about the latest crop of e-mail filters and enhanced mail client options, as well as two roll-your-own programming platforms that could help keep your in-boxes spam free."

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  1. If you don't drop the TCP SYN, you're dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I run a fourth level .ca domain. It gets so much spam that the only solution for me was to put in firewall rules. TCP port 25 is open for my 5 friends, and a few mailing lists. For everyone else, it's closed.

    I've got a longer rant on my web page, but I won't post it here, as the machine will die.

    Suffix it to say that I can't afford 500k+ spams a day. The SMTP 'HELO', 'MAIL FROM', and 'RCPT TO' traffic for spam was getting to a gigabyte of
    traffic every few days.

    rbl doesn't work. The spammers that hit me aren't listed on it. 'teergrube' doesn't work. I can't afford the bandwidth or the CPU time to maintain millions of open connections.

    When you get spam, if you do ANYTHING other than
    drop the TCP SYN packet, you've lost.

  2. spider traps by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I recall a number of scripts meant to trap spidering harvesters by generating endless pages of bogus content, with bogus addresses.

    I wonder how useful they would be in a honey pot setup, if you had the bandwidth to spare.

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    1. Re:spider traps by Raphael · · Score: 4, Informative
      I recall a number of scripts meant to trap spidering harvesters by generating endless pages of bogus content, with bogus addresses.

      You are probably refering to Sugarplum or Wpoison.

      I wonder how useful they would be in a honey pot setup, if you had the bandwidth to spare.

      They perform two very different purposes: the poisoning scripts mentioned above are designed to fool the robots that harvest e-mail addresses. They slow down the spammers and introduce many invalid addresses in their list, but they cannot completely prevent the spammers from collecting e-mail addresses.

      The fake open relays mentioned in the article are designed to stop the spammers from sending their spam. The spammers think that they have found a nice open SMTP relay and they dump all their spam to it, but in the end nothing is sent to the intended recipients.

      You could of course run both on the same machine, but this is probably not a good idea because the goals of these spam traps is to convince the spammers that they have found a "live one". If there is anything that looks strange on the target site (such as a warning generated by their harvesting robot), it is likely that they would consider this to be a suspicious site and they would not try to use it to relay their spam.

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      -Raphaël
    2. Re:spider traps by po_boy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I just wrote a mod_perl apache module to implement a similar honeypot idea. The primary difference is, though, that if a spider requests a page from the honeypot, the webserver realize that it's a maliicious spider. After that the webserver refuses to serve any pages at all to that client for some time.


      It's supposed to cut down on email harvesting bots and others that ignore the /robots.txt file

  3. Delays with the sendmail-bd by greyguppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like the idea with sendmail -bd, not delivering any mail, but surely spammers will simply assume that an "open" relay that takes 2 days to deliver their test message is being moderated as such by somebody running a honeypot. Unless you can identify, and forward spam tests as quickly as if the mailserver was running properly, then the spammers will soon catch on.

    1. Re:Delays with the sendmail-bd by Raphael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do not think that many spammers pay attention to the delivery time for their test messages, because they usually send dozens or hundreds of probes at the same time. As long as the message is delivered (by hand) within a couple of hours, that should be sufficient.

      But they will probably pay attention to this trick sooner or later. So we need a more sophisticated script than this simple "sendmail -bd". Maybe some kind of "limited open relay": a program that always delivers the first message received from any IP address, but delays (or drops) all the other ones coming from the same address. There could be a configurable threshold allowing more than one message per IP, in order to fool the spammers who would try to send two test messages.

      Such a machine could be used as an open relay, but with limited consequences. As long as the administrator of the machine keeps the logs of all incoming IP addresses (with timestamps and as many details as possible), the messages that go through it will not do much damage.

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      -Raphaël
  4. What am I missing? by Carmody · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read the article, and it seems to be based on this.

    (1) Spammer sends bunch of stuff to someone who is throwing it away, unread

    (2) ? ? ?

    (3) Spammer is discouraged from sending spam

    In other words, I understand that that spammer THINKS his spam is reaching endusers, when, in actuality, it is not. But I don't understand how that discourages or harms the spammer in any way.

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    1. Re:What am I missing? by GeorgeH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      (2) Spammer sees .01% response rate drop to .0000001% response rate (finding open relays, spidering email addresses, etc). Looks at books and sees that he spent 10 hours getting everything together to spam. Additionally, he spends 30 hours dealing with people who call pretending to be interested, keep him on the line, and then say that their credit card number is "spammers suck." So he spent 40 hours and only sold one widget, that he gets a $5 profit on. Realizes that he could have made more money working 40 hours at Mcdonalds, and there are nicer customers to boot.

      The reason people spam is the cost is low. Increase the cost of doing business and they will reevaluate.

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    2. Re:What am I missing? by Carmody · · Score: 3, Insightful

      (2) Spammer sees .01% response rate drop to .0000001% response rate (finding open relays, spidering email addresses, etc)

      This is an interesting answer. If the spammer is looking at response RATES, that answers my question, because the honeypot will decrease the apparent response rate. But wouldn't a spammer be looking at the response TOTALS? In other words, "I spend $1,000 to send a spam, and I got $10,000 in orders, so I made 10x my investment." The response total will not change if there are honeypots or not, because the spam would be blocked by the ISP who set up the honeypot in either case.

      Your argument works if the time investment (the 40 hours you detailed) goes up as the response rate goes down. I don't believe it does that - whether or not a honeypot is set up, the spammer still sends out the same quantity of spam.

      Do you agree with me, or am I still being thick?

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  5. vipul's razor!!!1` by notsoanonymouscoward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sounds alot like vipul's razor a fellow checksum'ing spam catcher. In addition to being free and open source, I think vipul's has been around longer than these other guys. They also use honeypots to catch lots of spam, but I believe not so much in the relay dept.

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  6. Spam only has a political/legislative solution by GSloop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've come to the realization that the solution to spam is political/legislative.

    I use SpamAssassin and it blocks virtually all spam, but that doesn't really solve the problem. Most users can't use spam assassin, or other good spam blocking system. Spamcop is good too, but that's now $3/month. Why should I be forced to pay to haul the spam, and $3/month not to see it?

    The solution as I see it is this. We need legislation that allows for damages from the beneficiary of the spam. Almost all of the spam I get comes from SMTP servers in China and Eastern Europe. Good luck getting these people shutdown. Or, it comes from an open relay. Again, it's useless to attack the unwitting/stupid party, although it might have some effect here. But the spam beneficiary almost certainly has a bank account in your country, or some bank funds transfer mechanism. If they want to do lots of business with the US or other countries, there's going to be somefinancial presence there. So, we now have money...just tap into that money, by making the beneficiary of spam a civil tort, and spam just gets more expensive to promote.

    When the demand for spam drops, because it's too expensive, then the demand for the out of country spam services drops, and eventually, most spam stops.

    There would need to be some way to keep companies from being "set-up" as spam beneficiaries, but I think that shouldn't be too hard of a problem to solve. (Who's going to pay a spammer to "set-up" someone else, when the risk could be quite high if you get caught?)

    Anyway, I'm starting to print out the most scummy spams, Porn etc (Esp pictures) and I'm going to mail them to my Congressmen and Senators. I don't know that they care, but I can pretty much guarantee they're going to get sick of getting such sicko stuff in the mail. Perhaps they'll actually do something. I've even pondered sending it all to every congressman and every senator, but that's a bit costly!

    Well, do your damage...

    Cheers!

    1. Re:Spam only has a political/legislative solution by jazman_777 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I've come to the realization that the solution to spam is political/legislative.


      I've come to the realization that the solution to spam is vigilante justice. That's how my emotions are, anyway.

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  7. Re:Fight Spam by Zach+Garner · · Score: 5, Informative

    uce@ftc.gov is for this purpose.

    UCE = Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail FTC = Federal Trade Commission

    If you send it to someone like your congressman, YOU are spamming. If you do it often enough, I'm sure they will have a word or two with your ISP.

    If someone sends you a letter filled with anthrax, forwarding it to the president will not make things better...

  8. Teergrube by quigonn · · Score: 5, Informative
    What can be generally interesting when fighting spam is
    1. razor (I recently posted a message about it on /.)
    2. A "teergrube". This is german for "tar pit". In the ice age, animals like mammoths trapped into them, today the spammers shall trap into them. Lutz Donnerhacke wrote an interesing FAQ about it, you can get it from here (english, of course). IMHO every ISP should run such a teergrube on his SMTP host.
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  9. more documentation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've just rented a dedicated server running freebsd, and I get messages of relay denied daily, now I need to accept relay for my users... so i've been reading about pop before smpt, thats a good solution, since I am not used to sendmail, it has been very difficult to configure it for me...I think we need a document to configure sendmail "for dummies"...all the documentation ive found is not so easy to understand.

    1. Re:more documentation by RollingThunder · · Score: 3, Informative

      O'Reilly. The one word you need. The "Bat Book", which is their sendmail tome, helped me daily when I ran sendmail.

      I now run postfix (or qmail, when I need EZMLM for mailing lists), and am eagerly awaiting their Postfix book.

    2. Re:more documentation by ncc74656 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I've just rented a dedicated server running freebsd, and I get messages of relay denied daily, now I need to accept relay for my users... so i've been reading about pop before smpt, thats a good solution, since I am not used to sendmail, it has been very difficult to configure it for me...

      I've handled local relaying by just adding IP addresses and/or address blocks to the server config. It works as long as nobody has a dynamic IP address...since the addresses that are let through are all private-subnet addresses (people behind the firewall), this isn't a problem. Their mail gets out, but spammers in search of an open relay are cut off.

      You might also want to look into qmail...it's much simpler to get going than sendmail, and IIRC no security holes have been found yet.

      Somebody linked to this article on using Apache to find the bots that swipe email addresses from websites. While you're waiting for the bots to respond to their suggested changes, you might also consider searching your logs for other attempts at sending mail through your system. Searching all the logged 404s on my server turned up 91 attempts at exploiting webmail systems. Some were the result of Nessus scans I had aimed at my server, but filtering those out left 36 confirmed attempts.

      Here are the user-agents that turned up:

      • EmailSiphon
      • Microsoft URL Control - 6.00.8862
      • Gozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; windows 2000)
      ...and here are the addresses of the spammers (get a load of the last one on the list):
      • 07-127.057.popsite.net
      • 209.85.24.157
      • 24-161-169-176.san.rr.com
      • 24.27.210.44.pinecastle-ubr-a.cfl.rr.com
      • 251.cleveland-05-10rs.oh.dial-access.att.net
      • 2cust165.tnt2.ladue.mo.da.uu.net
      • 63.116.175.28
      • 64-214-40-67.brv.frontiernet.net
      • ac85c77d.ipt.aol.com
      • ac894f07.ipt.aol.com
      • ac8b6f74.ipt.aol.com
      • acb5c2f6.ipt.aol.com
      • adsl-64-169-101-147.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net
      • adsl-64-172-45-126.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
      • cm092.8.234.24.lvcm.com
      • ip68-0-166-201.tc.ph.cox.net
      • lsanca1-ar2-143-206.lsanca1.dsl.gtei.net
      • pool-151-201-153-163.phil.east.verizon.net
      • roc-204-210-146-77.rochester.rr.com
      • tide86.microsoft.com
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  10. Wireless spam in Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Short-messaging (SMS) is enormously popular in Europe. Here in Finland, the porn spammers begun to capitalise on the popularity by sending "call this number to get your cock sucked by beautiful ladies" kind of SMS spam to arbitrary listed numbers including underage kids' cellphones.

    This kind of spam exists no more. How? It was made illegal practically overnight and that shut the bastards down.

    The spam problem is a political problem. Until there is enough political will in your governments to crack down on the spammers HARD, the spam problem will be getting worse and worse.

  11. Throw SPAM to the tarpits! by weefle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would be really cool to take the relay blackhole list to an extreme, and enhance it with something like LaBrea. That way, instead of just immediately refusing to accept spam, freeing the spammer to move on to the next host on the list, a "tarpit" relay would bog the spammer down, maybe slowing their spamstream down to the point that they're sending only one message per hour. If we could get just a small percent of the SMTP servers on the 'net running such a tarpit, that would reduce the amount of spam that we all get. That is, until the spammers rewrite their software to give up on slow relays.

  12. I've said it before and I'll say it again... by Dimensio · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only real solution to the spam problem is to kill spammers brutally, horribly and publically -- placing their heads on pikes as a warning to others. The US should encourage foreign governments to do the same under threat of airstrikes (though said airstrikes should only be centered on the locations of known spammers).

    Yes, I'm serious about this. I despise spam and wish all spammers DEAD.

  13. Re:Fight Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    PREPARED STATEMENT OF THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION ON "Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail"

    On another front, the FTC set up a special electronic mailbox reserved for UCE in order to assess, first hand, emerging trends and developments in UCE. With the assistance of Internet service providers, privacy advocates, and other law enforcers, staff publicized the Commission's UCE mailbox, "uce@ftc.gov," and invited consumers to forward their UCE to it. The UCE mailbox has received more than 2,010,000 forwarded messages to date, including 3,000 to 4,000 new pieces of UCE every day. Staff enters each UCE message into the database; UCE received and entered in the database within the preceding 6 months is searchable. Periodically, staff analyzes the data, identifies trends, and uses its findings to target law enforcement and consumer and business education efforts.

  14. What's funny is... by linuxrunner · · Score: 3, Funny

    I decided that one day I would reply to all the spam that I received in my non-personal mailbox.

    I did
    I then received all the mail back as undeliverable.
    I replied the same day it was received so what good are these spammers doing? I mean, how do they expect to make any money if they were not there to take mine?

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    1. Re:What's funny is... by Binestar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      2) at times HTML emails contain images located on a server. This allows them to track if a message has been read and which message.

      This is exactly that, most HTML e-mail messages you get contain an image. Alot of those images are formatted in such a way like:

      img src="http://www.spammersite.com/spampic.jpg?you@yo urisp.com"

      So the image display's, and they now have a list of e-mail addresses of people who looked at the message.

      So now you don't even have to click anything, they know you are looking at the message just by your mail client opening the picture.

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    2. Re:What's funny is... by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Informative
      That's why I never open spam. Instead, in Outlook Express, I use Properties/Message Source.

      I got one spam that had code to cause a banner advertising hit for the spammer. I notified the banner ad company. I suspect the spammer was unhappy about the result.

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  15. most effective by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most effective solution for fighting spam is NOT legal; it is also not honeypots, or open server bans. It's community action.

    Did you receive a spam directing you to a website? Good. Surf there. Reload. Reload a few hundred times. 800 number? Call it and complain. When they hang up on you, call back.

    Multiply this by even a small fraction of the people the company sent spam to and swamp their lines and slashdot their servers. They won't be making any sales, and any earnings they do make won't come close to paying their bandwidth or phone bills.

  16. Two spam stories in a day! by cecil36 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We first got a way that can punish spammers that dates back to the 1600's, and now a way that we can trap them. Just think, instead of locking up Bernard Shifman in a damp dungeon in England, we could honeypot his resume, then smear real honey all over Bernie and leave him near an anthill with a bunch of red ants.

  17. Another article about stopping spambots by primetyme · · Score: 4, Informative
    shameless plug

    I posted an article that deals with stopping spambots with common apache tools last week in the apache section of slashdot. hopefully some can find use of it here as well :)

    here's the link directly to the article as well:
    Stopping Spambots II - The Admin Strikes Back

  18. Move it up a level? by martyb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Question: If this idea is viable, why don't ISPs implement it, too? For example, if AOL used this technique on a few of its dial-up (or cable) IP addresses, they could potentially make quite an impact. Futher, they could apply this technique across each of their address blocks. They could also rotate through the address block the particular addresses which act as the honeypot.

    Now imagine that AT&T, Earthlink, MSN, and other ISPs implemented this, too, that should put a HUGE DENT in spamming.

    Granted, this would chew up bandwidth on their network, but delivering spam chews it up, too.

    Please, if there are mistakes in this, don't mod me down but instead point out what ISPs COULD DO to make this work. Thanks!

  19. Want to stop span? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Get 1000 /.ers to setup a web page on a simple box they already have or on a free web server... in fact, setup hundreds of pages. Embed in the page every political email address you can find as well as a honeypot one you setup. Set the honeypot one up to forward to the political addresses as well (all of them).

    After senator what's his face gets spammed by 10000+ p04n addresses a day for weeks on end he might take notice.

  20. Anyone ever... by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    anyone ever responded to a spam pretending to be interested in the product? I get about a 20% turnaround on "serious inquiries". If I am using a real email address and look like a real customer, and they arent even writing back to me... they must be spamming several times what they could "legitimately" handle.

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  21. It's for the Children! by eth1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe we can capitalize on the It's For The Children idiocy that seems so prevalant in government:

    1) Have your 14-year-old kid set up and email account somewhere.

    2) Help him/her write an innocent letter to your representative complaining about the inappropriate spam s/he is recieving.

    3) Watch them trip over themselves to Save The Children =P

    1. Re:It's for the Children! by Ldir · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I actually had this happen to my 11-year-old. When I first tried to set up an @home account for him, his name (first.last) was already in use so I used another variant. With the disintegration of @home, their customers are moving to new ISPs. In the process, we discovered that my son's name had become available, both at @home and at our new ISP.

      We switched his account to the first.last format, and he immediately started receiving lots of spam - including porn - meant for the previous user. My wife was horrified, and wouldn't let him check e-mail until she screened it first. Once we moved entirely off of @home, the problem went away ... for now.

  22. Checksumming -- defeatable? by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Checksumming strikes me as very easy to defeat. Just have the mailer append a random string to each message body. I've noticed most spam already does this with subject headers. Am I missing something?

    1. Re:Checksumming -- defeatable? by zsmooth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Am I missing something?

      Yes. The DCC page states that they use a 'fuzzy' checksumming algorithm that doesn't just checksum the whole message, and that the algorithm is evolving as spam evolves.

    2. Re:Checksumming -- defeatable? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Checksumming strikes me as very easy to defeat.


      It is.
      A rock will let you enter a locked car, but you still lock your car.
      A filter doesn't need to be 100% effective to be useful,
      and it's not likely that spammers will care until this kind of thing is guarding more than 50% of mailboxes.

      The random string is more likely a tag to find out who responded than an attempt to bypass filtering.

      -- Is a "no soliciting" sign spam?
  23. Hmmm by NiftyNews · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't flamebait, but what is the point of doing all of this?

    So now the spammers have a lot of worthless addresses. Well let's think about that for a minute. Spam is built around a theory that next-to-no-one will reply anyway, so that doesn't matter much. Spammers also rarely pay for their own bandwidth, choosing instead to spoof unsecure machines to do their dirtywork. So in the long run, you only end up giving them more worthless addresses that creates more wasted bandwidth, neither of which really harms the people you are attempting to target.

  24. The solution is not legislative! by warpSpeed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We do not need more laws "protecting" us! What we really need is a easy to use universal email crypto standard where everyone will sign thier email. Any mail not signed is immediatly suspect. Any keys you do not recognize are suspect.

    Standard crypto would serve us much better then any new law (set of laws) and the possible abusive applications of said law(s). We would surly end up with all sorts of lawful and awful unintended consequences as a result af anything that is generated by any government.

    ~Sean

  25. SpamAssassin! by mr.nicholas · · Score: 5, Informative
    I guess I have to throw in my $0.02 here. Instead of relying on a single services or technique for stopping SPAM, try something heuristic that combines the best of multiple worlds: SpamAssassin, for example.

    It uses a weighted score that derives it's values from a variety of sources including Razor and various Black Hole Lists.

    The type of heuristics are along the lines of:

    SPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results ----------------------
    SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered
    SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
    SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
    SPAM:
    SPAM: Content analysis details: (12.24 hits, 5 required)
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) From: contains numbers mixed in with letters
    SPAM: Hit! (1.2 points) From: does not include a real name
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) 'Message-Id' was added by a relay (2)
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) Subject contains lots of white space
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) BODY: List removal information
    SPAM: Hit! (1.56 points) Contains phrases frequently found in spam
    SPAM: [score: 26, hits: accept credit, credit cards,]
    SPAM: [fill out, for your, more information, our]
    SPAM: [company, phone number, receive further, remove]
    SPAM: [the, reply this, subject line, thank you, the]
    SPAM: [subject, this email, wish receive, word remove,]
    SPAM: [you for, you like, you wish, your]
    SPAM: [email]
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) spam-phrase score is over 20
    SPAM: Hit! (1 point) Received via a relay in inputs.orbz.org
    SPAM: [RBL check: found 14.54.162.63.inputs.orbz.org.]
    SPAM: Hit! (2 points) Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com
    SPAM: [RBL check: found 6.223.155.212.relays.osirusoft.com., type: 127.0.0.9]
    SPAM: Hit! (1.48 points) Subject contains a unique ID number
    SPAM:
    SPAM: -------------------- End of SpamAssassin results ---------------------

  26. Cratered or overloaded dropboxes by ShaunC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've occasionally replied to spam posing as a potential customer, usually when I want to know who's really behind a particular spam. I don't hear back from humans very often, either. I doubt it's that the spammer (or his client) doesn't want our "business." In most cases I think it can probably be explained by one of the following,

    a) Spammer sent spam, checked for replies for awhile, then abandoned that dropbox for a fresh one. By the time I replied to his spam, he was no longer checking on that box.

    b) Spammer sent spam, and because everything under the sun was in tune, someone with a clue was reading abuse@ and nuked his dropbox.

    c) Spammer sent spam, got mailbombed with thousands of junk letters and didn't bother to clean the dropbox out. Both Hotmail and Yahoo - from my experience, anyway - will spool new messages for you even when you exceed your storage quota. Those messages won't show in your inbox until you delete some of the existing drek, but they don't bounce either; we could be sending order inquiries to a "full" dropbox that's never cleared.

    Of course, we can always dream about

    d) Spammer sent spam, was visited by a few guys with baseball bats, and was rendered physically unable to reply to our solicitations!

    Shaun

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  27. Not Quite So Easy. by BadlandZ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm starting to print out the most scummy spams, Porn etc (Esp pictures) and I'm going to mail them to my Congressmen and Senators.

    How's that going to help if the porn sites are in China? Passing a law won't change it, your Congressman and Senator would have to be willing to support some kind of "punishment" in the form of economic sanctions or something on the country as a whole.... If that... It's not going to happen, not by just passing a law.

    If it were to be stopped by law, it would have to be an INTERNATIONAL law (funny how electrons in cables don't know to carry a passport and stop to check in with the Customs Officer when they cross a border).

    And, EVERY country would have to support the law. Or else the spaming operations would just move to a country that allows it. Good luck getting every country in the world to agree to an international policy just to keep spam out of your inbox.

    Sorry to rant, but it gets on my nerves when ANYONE thinks the USA has some right to make any Internet regulation at all.... because, they are trying to control something that extends way beyond the countrys borders.

  28. Here are some resources by ShaunC · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out Rokso. This site maintains a database of well known spammers, as well as spam samples, MO's, partners in spam and, yes, personal info for many of the spammers.

    Try going to SPEWS and searching on the IP addresses of any SMTP relays used in the mail. If you find a hit, view the evidence file. It will usually contain information about the sender of the spam, their ISP, and related domains.

    Subscribe to news.admin.net-abuse.email via your news provider of choice, or search the archives at groups.google.com. If you type in some particulars about the spam - for example the domain being advertised, or maybe the email address listed on the whois for that domain - Google will usually bring up some pertinent matches from NANAE. When it's a new spam run, or a new spammer, remember that Google's archive is usually at least 12 hours behind.

    If you don't find anything, or even if you do find something and you're in a sharing mood, post the spam you get to news.admin.net-abuse.sightings and if you've done any research into the spammer, include it at the top of your post.

    Shaun

    --
    Thanks to the War on Drugs, it's easier to buy meth than it is to buy cold medicine!
  29. Re:spider traps, Elcomsoft and SPAM by Alioth · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hmmm. Some of you may be interested to know that our favorite "cause celebre" company, Elcomsoft, sells spamming software.

    Their spam-software site is here. Scroll down to the bottom to see the (c) Elcomsoft.

    Of course, the Slashdot editors rejected this story :-)

  30. Re:Careful - violate USPS requlations? by GSloop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone know the requlations regarding sending pornographic materials via the US Postal Service?

    Yes, I'd like to know...

    But, I think it would be very NEWSWORTHY for me to get "prosecuted" for sending porn in the mail to my representatives, when government refuses to do anything against the spammer and the beneficiary of the spam for sending it to me in th first place.

    Plus, I think they would have a difficult time making it stick, as it would be the most protected speech. Speech to a representative for political discourse... (Or am I full of it?)

    I would really hate the time spent fighting it, and the expense, but I could really raise the roof if I was able to get it in the press.

    This is rather a cool idea. I might just "push the envelope" to see what a stink I can raise!

    Any suggestions?

    Cheers!

  31. Spam filtering -- dictionary based effort? by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm far from a sophisticated programmer, but I can bang out the odd script in Perl and I use procmail.

    I've been actually collecting Spam for an idea that I have -- Spam can be identified by the subject matter based upon the vocabulary. This weekend I hacked out a script that goes through a spam mbox and builds an index of words and two-word phrases.

    I ran it against my main inbox and it generated an entirely different vocabulary than the one generated by my spam mailbox. This leads me to believe that a new mail message could be judged by subject alone to see if contained a lot of spam vocabulary, and if it did its words could get added to the dictionary.

    The virtue of this is that its self-learning -- the more you get, the better it gets at finding them since the spam vocabularly gets even better defined.

    Of course, I haven't worked out the scheme for matching new mail against the dictionary yet (either in a logical sense or an implementation sense), so it may prove much harder than it seems -- but the fact that Spam is spottable in the subject by me just reading it vs normal mail shows me that the vocabulary is significant.

  32. Re:ISPs need to do more... by CritterNYC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about the bounce message? When you use a good open relay blocking list (like ordb, my favorite), your mail server refuses to let the offending server send the message. The offending server reports back to the sender that the message did not go through. So, if Aunt Alice is sending out the message to Grandpa about the family reunion and receives a message back that the message couldn't be delivered... she'd just call him. The only really bad anti-spam technique is filtering that just discards messages. The sender doesn't know it wasn't delievered. With blacklists, the sender knows.

  33. Re:spider traps, Elcomsoft and SPAM by cyberformer · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Dmitry didn't write the spam software. He simply worked for the company part-time, doing something entirely unrelated.

    It isn't really fair to blame interns who happen to work for [insert name of evil corporation] for the company's possibly unethical behaviour. I doubt that many people here agree with everything their employer's does. (I know I disagree with my employer's decision not to promote me and give me a big fat pay rise...)

  34. Spam Assassin - without a doubt the BEST by helloRockview · · Score: 3, Informative
    A group of colleagues and I have had an email server of our own for almost 7 years now and have always had the same email addresses. Between years of USENET post and webpages with our email addresses on the, our SPAM intake got out of control. In a sampling taken in October of last year, we were getting about 350 pieces of SPAM per day between only *4* people with account on the box.

    We had previously tried a number of anti-spam solutions, including combinations of RBL, ORBS, locally-maintained blacklists and lots of Sendmail hacks.

    We had very little luck until November, when we implemented Spam Assassin on all of our mailboxes. After turning on Spam Assassin, the SPAM seemed to just go away. In the first day alone, we caught over 300 pieces of SPAM with ZERO false-positives with less than 10 pieces of junk making it through to the end user's mailbox. The program is, simply put, amazing.

    It's multi-faceted approach works very well. It uses a combination of simple logical string checking, in addition to things like distributed databases like RBL and Razor.

    The program can also place SPAM's in a dedicated mailbox file so you can see what got rejected. Each piece of rejected mail contains a report that includes the reasons that contributed to the rejection. Each reason has a weighted value that contributes to the final "good" or "bad" disposition. All of this is highly customizeable, but it does work very well out of the box without any tinkering.

    I highly recommend this program. Take the time to sit down and install it on your mail server.