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Criticisms of KDE 3 Release Process

An anonymous submitter sent in a link to a recent email from the kde-devel list, criticizing the release process. Hopefully the KDE guys can work out any problems and keep up the good work that we've seen in the past. Update: 03/10 14:20 GMT by M : One of the comments below points out that another KDE developer has made an extensive response to the original criticisms.

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  1. This email makes it official... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    *KDE is dying...

  2. Another crippling bombshell? by SirRichardPumpaloaf · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It looks to me like somebody did a s/BSD/KDE on the "BSD is dying" manuscript and submitted it to the list. Finally the BSD troll has made it to the front page on Slashdot, by proxy anyway. Huzzah!

    1. Re:Another crippling bombshell? by SirRichardPumpaloaf · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Offtopic? That wasn't offtopic, this is offtopic:

      Hey Indiana, how does it taste to get punked by Iowa again in the Big Ten tournament? We own your pi-redefining asses! And it was your homeboys Alford and Recker too, how can you stand the humiliation?

  3. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Netcraft officially confirms *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Du to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long trm survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay like rotten meat. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    *BSD is dying

  4. *sigh* by sewagemaster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    overall, kde is a good 'product' but i'm just too disappointed with the speed issue. i've got 384 MBs of RAM on my Pentium 450 and it's just bearable. sure it's got some nice themes and all, but even windows 98 is running faster. i'm not just talking about apps, but kde hasnt been too responsive. i have yet to try out KDE3 yet (since they arent planning on releasing it on unstable)...

    mind you, i've disabled all the 'effects' to speed things up... not much help.

    recently migrated to XFCE (xfwm) and i'm pretty happy about it. fluxbox is the ultimate but i still havent figured out how to dock applets and other stuff properly..

    i've been totally depending on Konqueror now that it's so hard to use something else. but if you run any kde apps even in fluxbox it's going to slow everything waaay down...

  5. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    BSD isn't dying you moron, it's alive and kicking. At work we have a cluster of 3,000 BSD boxes that we use for serving up dynamic web pages. And we aren't some chump loser startup either, I work for a fortune 100 company. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Yahoo still uses BSD. So why do you mean by saying BSD is dying?? It certainly isn't where I come from. Could you please elaborate some more?? Thanks.

  6. Re:forget about the release process... by urmensch · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    can you count coward?

  7. Re:You are born free, of Christ, not a DUMBY!! by vena · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I demonstrate absolute proof
    Time is Cubic and not linear.
    Stupid educators ignore this,
    and teach students stupidity.
    Time Cube empowers wisdom
    above all gods and educators.
    I am the wisest human of all,
    for I have absolute proof of 4
    simultaneous 24 hour days in
    a single rotation of the Earth.
    God is 1-day, Science is 1 day.
    My 4 days disproves 1 day god
    and evil lying 1-day educators.
    Students are dumb and stupid
    for ignorance of Time Cube.
    Cubeless word allows the evil
    to rule and the liars to teach.
    You've ignored the Time Cube
    and you shall suffer its curse,
    as did all the past civilizations.
    Prepare for a hell you created.

  8. DonT mOnKEy AroUnD, KDE by MrHectibus · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Fei:How are you feeling? Woman:... Fei:Do you still intend to kill me? Then go right ahead and shoot me! But you'd better not do it while we're in this forest. Forest monsters hate loud noises, you know!? Woman:... Fei:Fine. Don't talk to me if you don't want to... But it wouldn't kill you to thank me for tending to your wounds. Woman:Th... Thanks... But you shouldn't have helped me. Don't think it will save your life, though. It really doesn't change a thing. Fei:What are you so afraid of? Woman:I'm not afraid, I'm just being cautious. It's natural for me to be this cautious considering I've met such a suspicious surface dwelling -Lamb-. Fei:Hm. Don't you worry. I'm not going to do anything. Besides, you're much more suspicious than I am. Woman:Huh? Fei:So, what's your name? Woman:I won't give my name to a surface dweller -Lamb-. Fei:What's with you and this 'Lamb' thing? We're both lost in this forest, surrounded by dangerous monsters... Shouldn't we at least be cooperating with each other until we get out of here? Woman: ... Fei:Good. So what's your name? It's going to be hard for us to cooperate with one another without at least knowing each other's names. Anyway, my name is Fei Fong Wong. You can call me Fei. Woman:I'm... Elhaym. But my parents call me Elly. Fei:'Elly', huh? Somehow I already 'knew' that. Elly: ? Fei:Anyway, it's too dangerous to travel in these parts this late at night... Let's wait till daybreak before we continue looking for a way out of here... If that's okay with you? Elly:I guess we have no choice, do we? Fei:Okay then Elly... How about having something to eat. [The two soon go to sleep. Fei has a dream. He is a boy sitting in a desert all alone. Suddenly, a line of faceless men appear in front of him. walking away. Fei gets up and tries to catch up.]

  9. Re:Page Widening criticism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The main purpose of Malda tolerating the Page Widening dude is that when posts are cast into the garbage heap of -1 moderation, the people in charge don't want any of us reading them. So Malda keeps around this little chimp called the Page Widening dude, whose job is to make sure that none of us can tolerably read those marked down comments.

    If there wasn't some rogue random user doing this stuff, Malda and his little band of merry censors would need to assign somebody the task. The point is- if it's marked down below Zero, it's effectively censored on this system, no matter how grandiose and 'free speech' oriented the rhetoric from those in charge.

  10. I see the problem... by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    If they use the same 4pt font in the article that they use in their code, no wonder nothing gets fixed!!!

    You can't re-code what you can't read.

    .

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    Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
  11. Re:Page Widening criticism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In other words, the Slashcode is broken in such a way that the 95% of the people who read this site who use IE can't read -1 posts.

    Way to go, Malda. You're a real pro.

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  14. Re:Microsoft and mud people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I live in the south so I've heard some racist shit, but what the fuck is a quadroon?