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Mozilla 0.9.9 Released
OSSMKitty writes: "Mozilla.org has released the next version of Mozilla, version 0.9.9. Highlights include MathML enabled by default on Unix and Win32, and TrueType font support on Unix. Read the release notes and then download a binary to test on your platform."
The release after 0.9.9 will be 1.0, but it's possible that 1.1 alpha will be released before 1.0. If that happens, I'd expect to see a "1.0 beta" or "1.0 release candidate" before 1.1 alpha. (See the Mozilla Development Roadmap for more.)
The shareholder is always right.
Mozilla Roadmap
They're on track so far. Looks like 1.0 should be out in late April.On Linux, I switched from Netscape to Mozilla around M18, I think, and quite frankly although it's taken forever to get there it's now just about the best browser around (for me anyway).
At work the desktops are all NT4, but I use Mozilla there as well, rather than IE. Why?
- Tabs. Can't live without them, and on Windows it means that your taskbar isn't cluttered with 10,000 unidentifiable icons.
- Keyboard operation. Open a new tab (Ctrl-T), type your URL, switch back to what you were reading (Ctrl-PageUp) and wait for the new tab to stop spinning. Switch back (Ctrl-PageDown), read it and close it (Ctrl-W). I know you can control IE with the keyboard as well, but to switch windows you have to use Ctrl-Tab, which is an incredible pain if you've got a bunch of windows open.
- Speed. It's damn quick.
I just wish they'd build for more platforms... anybody got an Alpha build that doesn't need glibc2.2?
Configure your middle mouse button to open links in a tab in the background. Click on any interesting links, such as /. stories, while you're scanning a page; when you're done with the first page, they're all loaded and you never lost focus from what you were reading. Well, unless you have a jealous cat...
And yes, Mozilla rocks my 'fro.
MathML is currently not quite ready for prime time on mac. It is being worked on and should be in a future release near you. Something the Cross-Platform nature of moz has to bend a bit to allow new features to come in sooner.
/me gets back to fixing the mozilla mac build system
Zach
The MacOSX build is great, there is one strange thing however. I have a nightly from the 8th that displays msnbc.com just fine, however nothing before or after that nightly will display it correctly.
Additionally the startup speed still lags by about 5 to 10 seconds behind IE 5.1 on MacOSX. This is largely a non-issue since I usually start it up once during the day and it runs all day long.
Now if only I could get a version without all the crap. I just want a browser, not a PIM and mail client.
Not sure if it's related, but read the release notes. There is mention of workarounds to some proxy problems.
you cannot select a message without displaying it, thus you cannot forward a spam onto Spamcop without Mozilla starting to render it (and fetching any webbugs in it).
Try collapsing the message area (expanding the threadpane to the bottom of the window). You can do this by dragging the splitter or clicking on the splitter's grippy. When the message area is closed it doesn't load the message.
--Asa
This mozilla release (as mentioned in the release notes), has a fix for the zlib vulnerability, just a few hours after the vulnerability was discovered!
On another note, anyone feel that that "turbo mode" should be kept in the windows builds only? This might sound silly, but I expect every program to jam itself in my window system tray, but for some reason, I don't want it anywhere near my linux box[.]
Then don't enable it. Unless things have changed since the last time I checked, it was always an optional feature. Were there ever plans for it to be otherwise?
Exactly. If you want real news about the development of mozilla, check out Mozillazine
They keep you up to date on the status of nightly builds, rate them for you, and even have a build-bar talkback area so you can chime in on what works/doesn't work. It's the first place I go before I download a nightly.
No thanks. I don't smoke anymore.
I've been waiting for this for quite a while and now it finally looks like it's here. Yes! Read the changelog it's not truetype font support but anti-aliased fonts.
Developers fixed a little mroe than 2000 bugs in the 0.9.9 cycle.
--Asa
If you open and close browser windows often, and don't want to keep track of whether the window you're about to close is the last one, it makes sense to use Quick Launch to keep Mozilla from exiting completely when you close the last window. If you always keep (at least) one browser window open, then Quick Launch only borrows from the time it takes to start up your OS, so there's little point in using it. I don't see why it should matter whether you're using Windows or Linux.
The shareholder is always right.
According to the road map, Mozilla 1.0 will be out March 27th. Only 16 more days. Of course, according to the roadmap, 0.9.9 was supposed to be out a month ago.
Unlike most people actually working on this project and other Mozilla-based projects, you don't know how to read the roadmap. Those aren't even the branch dates. Those are the freeze dates when the tree is closed to all but approved checkins. A week or so after the freeze is the branch for that Milestone. But, guess what, that's still not the release date. That's the date that the development for that relase goes onto a branch and there is parallel development for the release branch and the development trunk. During that time the branch takes strictly monitored fixes and at some point on the branch (for most milestones it's a week or so) the release tag is made and binaries are served up to the testing community. All of this becomes a little more obvious if you read the roadmap in addition to looking at the pretty picture (even just looking at the picture and reading the key would help a lot)
--Asa
Ok, every here should know by now that MQ is just one huge troll. The only good I can see could come from this would be to slashdot the server...
If you aren't familiar with MQ, go ahead and visit the site. Just be warned: treat it as a troll, and don't take his word for anything.
So anyway, linking to him is just going to expose the unsuspecting to the MQ misinformation. Don't do it.
Mozilla
Newsforge has reported that the new 8.0 version of AOL will use Gecko (the rendering engine in Mozilla) rather than IE!
It did no such thing. Here is the passage to which I think you refer:
Emphasis mine. For those playing at home, you may want to note two things:
Please don't fan the flames of speculation any higher. I would suggest taking a conservative approach to "news" pieces such as these in the future. Then again, why should you listen to me?
You should try 0.9.9. Both of your problem areas have received a lot of attention in 0.9.9 and should be greatly improved from your experience in 0.9.8.
--Asa
For mozilla news, I generally read Mozillazine, the major mozilla news site, as well as Mozillanews, a somewhat more community-driven site. For downloads, try XULPlanet, which has a good collection of themes and a good tutorial, and Mozdev (I usually follow projects like Optimoz- gestures- and Googlebar, a mozilla Google Toolbar. Most community development projects wind up here.) Mozillaquest is reserved for cheap laughs, though they have a few article templates to choose from....
For those wondering, yes, there is a spellchecker for Mozilla (bug 56301). Or, if you're in a hurry, the installer is right here.
I've been using David Einstein's spellchecker for week's now without problem. Of course, it has its own quirks (such as there being no way to dismiss the spellchecker and avoid sending the message) but it's still a tremendous effort.
Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
If you're using mozilla, just right click the ad, select "Block images from this server." Presto, you just deprived slashdot of revenue!
If you have a bug to report, or a suggestion to
make, can you take it to here?
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if you are on linux/freebsd, check this out:
ctrl+left click, then paste somewhere else, very cool!
Yup, Ctrl-L does the same in Mozilla
If you want to read an email without the network requests downloading images and so forth, click the little network icon in the bottom corner to take Mozilla "offline", then read your mail. You'll see only the HTML parts that can be rendered locally (i.e. no images).
Unfortunately the new release still needs support from Galeon. Installing the RPMS on my machine cause Galeon to segfault. Had to revert back to 0.9.8. Guess I'll just have to wait for Galeon 1.0.4.
"In mathematics, it's not enough to read the words -- you have to hear the music"
Enter this into the URL field:
javascript:void(window.fullScreen=true)
And you get full screen! Note that this implementation is incomplete, and does not work with all window managers. But it's a start
If you think it's slow on Linux, be glad you're not using it under OS X.
I've been using 0.9.8 for a week or so, and it seems to do the job satisfactorily.
smash
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
Does it strike anyone else here that everything good that everyone has said here concerning Mozilla is already available in a web browser? Of course I'm talking about Opera, which I've been using for a few months now, and am extremely impressed with it. Tabbed windows, ultra fast page renders, fast startup time, can be controlled completely by either the keyboard or the mouse (really innovative and awesome).
Mozilla is open source and free, which is good, and Opera is one of the few browsers that is not free, but the penalty for not paying is a little banner ad that sits on your browser all the time while you browse. It isn't particularly annoying, but the Opera browser is totally worth the price. I absolutely recommend that everyone try it out, especially if you like the features of Mozilla or are unsatisfied by IEXPLORE.
Just thought I'd point this out, as Opera is a very viable alternative to other browsers, and it absolutely rocks.
Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
Mozilla does not yet support the mixture of XML and HTML within the same document. Thus a fragment inside a HTML document is not rendered in Mozilla. [1]
Sounds like a good job for an IFRAME...
It's commercial version, Netscape 6 from AOL. It already has the spell checker.
1. I tried "google" and hit enter, and it went to google.com, try it.
2. The ALT tag is not for tooltips. The TITLE tag is for tooltips. I know this annoys alot of people, but that's the spec.
Very true. I downloaded this version in an attempt to have a usable browser under OS X. Internet Explorer is very slow right now, especially with loading and scrolling. Unfortunately, this latest version of Mozilla seems to suffer similar problems. Maybe the problems are both related to Aqua?
Greg
> How does one install Netscape plugins into
.mozilla directory so you don't have to start over when you do a new install (new to 0.9.9)
> mozilla on unix and windows?
>>Just drop the shared libs in the plugins/ dir
>>in the Mozilla install directory.
Or put them in a dir called plugins in your
--Asa
How do I get it to launch into the browser automatically without first selecting the profile? Is there a command flag to specify the profile?
./mozilla -P "<profile name>"
run
--Asa
I'm not sure what you're doing but Java works for me for the applets I've tested. Download and istall Sun's 1.3.0_0x and copy the NP* files to your plugins folder in the install directory or to a plugins folder you create in your Application Data/Mozilla/ directory. Do this with Mozilla not running and when you start it up it should work.
If this doesn't work then type about:plugins and see if the Java plugin shows up in the list. If it's not there then you didn't put it in the right place. If it is there then go to java.sun.com and click on the applets link in the left nav area of the page. Test some of the games and other applets there and they should work.
--ASA
Actually .. Attachmate's Emissary had it before Opera. :)
Try the OW SneakyPeeks! The latest SP I'm using is 10x better than 4.0.6 that's on their site... a lot more stable, and faster than IE, iCab, and especially Mozilla. Highly reccomended.
Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
Mozilla works great already, and Version 1.0 will be a beautiful gift to the entire world.
Bush's education improvements were
These are bug 57724, bug 45583, and bug 40876. Get a Bugzilla account, and vote for these bugs to help encourage the Mozilla folks to fix them! They bug the crap out of me.
My Web Page
Here's the timeline for 1.0 according to the good folks at Mozilla: Roadmap
>>so they're no substitute for real tabs or MDI
> MDI has got to be the worst UI idea ever.
I have to agree too. I remember back in the early 90s when MS was big on MDI. Even they worked out that no one likes it and they finally ripped it out of Word. I think MDI has for the most part been wiped out or replaced with tabs in todays GUI apps. (and none too soon...)
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Simon
You can get an (alpha) spell-checker - it's one of the projects on Mozdev.
Gerv
As has already been pointed out, blocking popups at page load/unload is not a new feature. A sort-of related feature is, however: You can now prevent from opening a new window by flipping the "Open a link in a new window" switch in the Scripts & Windows panel.
:)
If you just hate it when someone makes all their external links open in new windows, this feature is for you!
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
The ability to do javascript:void(window.fullScreen=true) has been turned off by default to prevent web page abuse (you wouldn't want a web page suddenly putting you in full screen mode, would you?)
" , "allAccess");
To turn it back on, find the file "prefs.js" in your Mozilla profile directory and add the following line to it:
pref("capability.policy.default.Window.fullScreen
That's it! window.fullScreen=true will work again now. (Note that Mozilla must *not* be running while you modify prefs.js.)
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
I'd have to concede, however, that this is hardly intuitive :-P
The best newspaper in the USA: the Anderson Valley Advertiser.
I'm not sure how to do this in the Modern theme, but if you're using Classic, just find your Mozilla profile directory, open the subdirectory called "chrome", edit the file "userChrome.css", and paste these lines at the bottom:
.toolbarbutton-menubutton-button { .toolbarbutton-text, .toolbarbutton-text {s ingle.gif") !important;a nim.gif") !important;
.toolbarbutton-1,
min-width: 0px !important;
text-align: center !important;
}
#nav-bar-inner {
margin: 0px !important;
}
.toolbarbutton-menubutton-button >
.toolbarbutton-1 >
display: none !important;
}
#navigator-throbber {
list-style-image: url("chrome://communicator/skin/brand/throbber16-
}
#navigator-throbber[busy="true"] {
list-style-image: url("chrome://communicator/skin/brand/throbber16-
}
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
No, he got the point just fine. Here's an example in LaTeX:
$x^2 + 4x + 4 = 0$
After LaTeX, MathML looks like busy-work doled out by committee. The problem with LaTeX on the Web has never been lack of standards of portability. Rather, good, portable, free viewers are in short supply. This could have been solved a long time ago by selfless programmers. There is no need for a new standard that involves so much extra typing that even COBOL professors would cringe.