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KDE 3.0RC3: Prepare to Fall in Love

Dre writes "As announced on dotsy, the first day of the Season of Love (for us Northerners, anyway) brings us the KDE 3.0 final release candidate, KDE 3.0RC3. Besides fixes for any remaining crashes and grave bugs, this release will become KDE 3.0, scheduled to free the world in early April. Having benefitted from a week-long hacking session early this month, I can report that this release is very solid and, best of all, much snappier than prior releases, particularly Konqueror. Downloads are available through KDE's load-balancing mirror system. Since this is principally a show-stopper release, things are on an expedited schedule; more binary packages will appear in the next few days, and shortly thereafter KDE 3.0 will be tagged."

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  1. Re:GCC 3.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm afraid you'll have to ask the GCC crew as
    all the problematic bug fixes needed for compilation
    were reported shortly after 3.0, yet still, there
    are compilation problems.

    Basically, from what i've heard if you use 3.0.4
    with no opimisation then you should be pretty sorted :)
    (excepting mcopidl - part of arts - which probably
    still has problems even after all this time)

    In other words, wait for gcc 3.1 :)
    Alex

  2. Desktop icons messed up at startup by Erik+Hensema · · Score: 2, Informative

    My desktop icons always get messed up on startup. However, that seems to be the only real bug in can find.

    It simply rocks.

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  3. Re:Screenshots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Note these might be ready and included in KDE 3.1, but not KDE 3.0!

  4. Re:kde development. by mark_lybarger · · Score: 4, Informative

    just curious where you had heard that it's compatible with gcc 3.x? from what i read on kde's site here is that you'll want to avoid gcc 3.x and stay with 2.95 for a while.

    the fact that they're pretty much on schedule shows good project management.

  5. Re:what has changed ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is onyl a release candidate, final release will have a full announcement.
    But see the beta announcements and http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde- 3.0-features.html.

  6. Re:Linux people are hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, Kfm had integrated webbrowsing and file management long before IE did.
    So it's IE ripping of KDE, if anything.

  7. Screenshots by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 4, Informative

    Screenshots are available for KDE 3.0 here.

    These shots go to show that Unix and Linux systems are more than capable of competing with the eye candy UIs of Windows XP and MacOS X.

  8. Re:Screenshots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    (I still want the focus to follow my mouse, among other things)



    Install TweakUI, turn on X-Mouse. Problem solved.

  9. Re:What makes this a major point release? by GeekBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because it breaks binary compatability in the move from qt2 to qt3. In addition qt3 brings some enhancements such as data aware widgets, etc.

  10. Mirror of the dot.kde.org page by sc0rpi0n · · Score: 4, Informative
  11. Re:removable devices interface improved ? by dfaure · · Score: 4, Informative

    > AFAIK in KDE 2.2 you cannot simply drag and drop to the "floppy device" icon in the desktop.

    Just implemented this yesterday... quite a concidence ;)
    konq_operations.diff

    Apply this patch to the KDE 3 sources (current CVS, or 3.0-final
    when it's out). It's a tiny bit late for inclusion in 3.0, given the size of the patch (which mainly moves code around though).
    Feel free to test and report problems to me :)

  12. Re:unix? lol by HeUnique · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, if you look at the mailing lists - you'll find people from IBM (who compile KDE on AIX), SGI (Irix), FreeBSD, HP-UX, Sun (Solaris), and even Mac OS X!

    The KDE Development team doesn't have the machines to try the code on other things then Linux, but non-the-less - most of the time people manage to compile KDE from sources with 90% of success with few small problems that are being discussed and fixed within short time.

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  13. It is aptgetable already by rsd · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those of you already running Conectiva Linux, it is aptgetable already.

    If you run the CL snapshot version just:

    # apt-get update
    # apt-get dist-upgrade

    If you just want to get the kde stuff:
    Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:

    rpm ftp://ftp.nl.linux.org/pub conectiva/snapshot/conectiva main kde

    and then run:
    # apt-get update
    # apt-get install task-kde

    If you want to fully upgrade to the snapshot version:
    add this line instead:

    rpm ftp://ftp.nl.linux.org/pub conectiva/snapshot/conectiva main extra orphan gnome experimental games kde

    and then:
    # apt-get update
    # apt-get dist-upgrade

    Enjoy!

  14. Re:Ripoff! by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try looking at Stardoc. Complete shell replacement for windows. 100% customization, beyond the level of anything I've seen for Linux. Far more "advanced" and "innovative" than KDE.

    He's right. KDE is just a plain windows rip-off. Not that that's a bad thing. But anyone with eyes can see that it is... Just admit it. It's not that hard.

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  15. Re:what happened to our Linux GUI's? by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Not true. In windows, the GUI code is intimately linked to the kernel, and cannot be separated out."

    Why is there not a -1 anti-informative mod? This statement is 100% wrong. The windows desktop is a user level application that can be stopped and restarted at will with no interruption to the kernel or kernel services in any way. In fact a hell of a lot of "crashed" windows can be recovered by bringing up the task manager and starting a new process called "explorer.exe", rather than blindly hitting the reset button like a monkey.

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  16. KDE3 vs. Gnome2 by Junta · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been playing with both. I can certainly say both offer great speedups over their current stable versions. However, I must say that KDE3 feels a lot closer to release quality than Gnome2, even though Gnome2 supposedly has a sooner release date...

    Everything in KDE (at lleast as of RC2) seems to work, I haven't seen any crashes. All the utilities and such seem pretty complete.

    Gnome2, as of a few days ago, still seemed broken in so many ways. On log out, the panel always segfaulted. The appearance is, well, pretty crappy compared with KDE (one font selector, which doesn't seem to work right). Gdm is completely broken (the daemon continuously restarts, and the configuration tools are broken and won't even start. Sawfish 2 doesn't seem to want to even pull up any configuration applets. Interoperability between Gnome2 and Gnome1 apps seems ok, until gGConf comes into play. If gnome1 installed gconf is running, Gnome2 apps screw up, if gnome2 is running it's gconf, Gnome1 apps that are GConf aware mess up. All this is my own machine, with gnome prefixes differing between 1 and 2, but under the same configuration, KDE is good to go... Maybe at release time, we will see a different story. Both show great promise.

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    1. Re:KDE3 vs. Gnome2 by Junta · · Score: 3, Informative

      Another point I wanted to make, this time in favor of Gnome :) Galeon is a truly top notch browser. Konqueror is ok, but everything renders with mozilla's engine, and khtml sometimes falls short. Additionally, Konqueror seems to completely dismiss the notion of tab browsing. Though so many people want it and request it, it seems like the stance they take is "no, tabbed browsing is not good UI design, it's not as easy to use, even if so many users think it is". Of course, this is unsubstantiated claim, but it feels that way. I just don't get how so many people can dismiss concepts in UI design through supposed expert research that tells users they don't know what they want.

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    2. Re:KDE3 vs. Gnome2 by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Informative
      Konqueror is ok, but everything renders with mozilla's engine, and khtml sometimes falls short.

      In Konqueror, go to View, Vide Mode, and pick Mozilla instead of KHTML. It's been there for most of the 2.0 series. Konqueror is just a framework for loading plugins. Mozilla's engine has been a KDE plugin for quite awhile.

      I just don't get how so many people can dismiss concepts in UI design

      It's hardly dismissed - the code is already finished, and tabbed browsing is an option in the KDE 3.1 release (it was judged too fundimental a change for the 3.0 release). Do a search, and I'm sure you can find some screenshots.

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  17. Re:two qusetions... by JamesKPolk · · Score: 3, Informative

    KDE 3.0 will not include Brahms.

    Perhaps the Brahms developers should ask for the kmusic package to be added to the released packages for KDE 3.1. Brahms is in cvs, in kmusic. kmusic just needs to be released.

  18. Re:font anti-aliasing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Font anti-aliasing is done by X/freetype. Make sure you have it enabled, XFree 4.1 has a bug which prevents it from using in some cases, so be be sure to upgrade to XFree 4.2.