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boredadmin writes "It looks like Palm have finally released (a few weeks ago) their Bluetooth SDIO card to allow SD-Slot equipped Palms communicate with cellphones, PC's, access-points, etc. Now if only I could find somewhere in this sad little corner of the world that I'm stuck in that actually stocks them."
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Try http://www.expansys.com ,who seem to have them in stock in the UK and will ship everywhere.
- Paul
Suicidal Truths
Under the especially revealing title "Suicidal Lies" (31.3.02), Thomas Friedman of the New York Times gives his distorted version of Middle East realities.
Friedman's short essay is full of flaws, but since he shouldn't be taken all too seriously, I won't bother to address his endlessly recycled legend about the so-called "generous offer" rejected by the Palestinians (refuted long ago by President Clinton's special assistant Robert Malley, see New York Review of Books, 9.8.2001), nor his smug futile fantasy about a "non-violent Palestinian struggle a la Ghandi": anyone who has been following the Palestinian struggle closely knows that every Palestinian nonviolent demonstration is automatically answered by ruthless Israeli fire.
What I do wish to address is the crux of Friedman's manipulation, which consists of focusing on the Palestinian suicide attacks. Friedman writes: "The Palestinians are so blinded by their narcissistic rage that they have lost sight of the basic truth civilisation is built on: the sacredness of every human life, starting with your own."
Now this is vicious demagoguery. The "sacredness of every human life" may start with many things, by it definitely does NOT start with your own life. It is not the "Palestinian narcissistic rage" exposed here, but the blind narcissism of Friedman himself, who seems to selfishly care about himself more than anything. This may be nice for him, but such a person has no right to preach morality to anybody.
As for the life of others, things cannot be clearer. No moral system allows murder. It is not up to you to end someone else's life. This is one of several reasons why only very few backward countries still practice death penalty: Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United States. Except for such few exceptions, all other countries have integrated the "sacredness of every human life" into their legal system and forbid taking the life of any person by another person.
On Suicide:
But who is the master of one's own life? Unlike the absolute ban on murder, the question of suicide is morally and philosophically controversial. The three monotheistic religions usually forbid suicide - but remember the biblical suicide-bomber Samson, adored as hero in Christianity and Judaism, opening a long tradition of martyrs.
It was the great English philosopher David Hume (1711-1776) whose defence of suicide became most famous. In his essay "On Suicide" (1757) he proves that suicide violates no duty to God, self or others. His argument goes roughly like that: God has given humans the liberty to alter nature for their own happiness; Suicide is an instance of altering the course of nature for our own happiness; Therefore, suicide does not violate God's plan.
Do Palestinians possess a special inclination towards suicide? Probably not more than the English. Here is what the French philosopher Montesquieu wrote in 1748: "the English are apt to commit suicide most unaccountably; they destroy themselves even in the bosom of happiness (...) among the English it is the consequence of a distemper, being connected with the physical state of the machine, and independent of every other cause..."
Anyway, almost all liberal people nowadays would agree that suicide is not a crime. Though some legal systems still formally forbid it, I've never heard of someone punished for a suicide attempt. In fact, a burning issue in modern legislation is euthanasia for terminally ill people, where the question is not their right to commit suicide (which is usually acknowledged), but rather the right to be assisted in it by medical staff.
Sixteen centuries before Hume, philosopher Epictetus (60-120 CE) also endorsed suicide, showing deep understanding for its causes. There may be limits to what we can endure in this life, he argued, and so, when things get too intolerable, we may wish to end our lives. "Is there smoke in the room? If it is slight, I remain. If it is grievous, I quit it. For you must remember this and hold it fast, that the door stands open." This may not be the case with the bombers of September 11th, but it is precisely the case of the Palestinian desperation. Palestinian rooms are now filled with smoke, and tear gas, and tears, and blood. May Thomas Friedman never experience even a tiny fraction of the Palestinian desperation, which he so heartlessly puts between hyphens.
On Bombing:
Once we agree that suicide in itself is irreproachable, that the life of every Palestinian belongs to him- or herself (not to Thomas Friedman), and that people are allowed to do with their life whatever they wish, including ending it, what's left of Friedman's argument? Not much. If you re-read his column bearing this in mind, you see how Friedman's balloon is shrinking to trivialities. Suicide bombing is just another weapon, not better and not worse than any other. Friedman is right: Palestinians have found Israel's weak spot. But finding the enemy's weak spots is what fighting is all about; not quite a New York Times scoop.
Once we drop the flawed "accusation" of suicide, the moral fault of suicide bombers becomes obvious: killing innocent people. This is morally reprehensible under any circumstances. Not all suicide bombers kill innocent people, though: many of them explode next to Israeli occupation soldiers. Others target settlers, whose innocence is questionable. But true: many suicide bombers have killed and injured innocent civilians, and this is unforgivable.
Unforgivable - yes, just like the American bombing of Hiroshima (but compare the numbers). Just like the American bombing of the shelter in Baghdad in 1991, killing 400 Iraqi civilians. Just like the Israeli bombing of Kafr Kana in 1996, killing 100 Lebanese civilians. Unforgivable just like so many of the present Israeli actions in the occupied territories, in which innocent civilians are killed. Just like so many of the American actions in Afghanistan and Iraq (and elsewhere), in which countless innocent civilians are killed and injured. The question of intention is a poor refuge: if you enter Ramallah with 150 tanks, cutting water supply and medical aid, if you drop tons of bombs on Afghanistan or Iraq, don't tell me you never intended to harm civilians.
On Dehumanisation
Friedman's bias is now clear. He could have reproached Palestinians for targeting innocent people. This would have been a sound accusation, though it applies just the same to Palestinian hit-and-run snipers. But he didn't. He preferred picking the suicide bombers, who are morally not different from any other who kills innocent. Why?
Naturally, Friedman is frustrated by the fact that American-Israeli might still has some limits. The world would be so much better if might could altogether abolish right! Alas, the smartest bombs cannot defeat the human spirit. The weapons of the poor may not be as clean and photogenic as ours, but they can still hurt. Capitalism isn't perfect. Destruction profits are sometimes independent of the investment: if you're run over by a cheap scooter or by an expensive limousine, you won't always live to tell the difference. A sad fact for a globalisation fan like Friedman.
But it's more than that. Friedman's focus on suicide bombers is intended to dehumanise the Palestinians. By blaming Palestinians of carelessness towards "the sacredness of every human life, starting with your own", Friedman is claiming that they do not care about their own life. He is then patronizingly pretending that he does care about their life (more than they do!), and now, having assumed responsibility for the Palestinians, Friedman has a suggestion: "First, Israel needs to deliver a military blow". Bravo. Look how easily the great moralist Friedman is translating "the sacredness of every human life" into "a military blow". All in the name of "the basic truth civilisation is built on" - what else?
So hit those non-humans, says the enlightened humanist. And what then? Obviously: then, "Israel must tell the Palestinian people that it is ready to resume talks". I devoted an entire column, Against Negotiations, precisely to this false consciousness: both to the dangerous idea that bloodshed may lead to peace, and to "talks" as a code-word for perpetuating the occupation. I won't repeat it here.
Sum Up
Suicide bombing is on the same moral level as any other bombing. Harming innocent people is morally intolerable; but suicide in itself cannot be condemned. The Palestinian struggle is morally justified, even though some of its manifestations are unjustifiable. Reducing this struggle to the issue of suicide bombing is just another way of dehumanising and thus legitimising the killing of Palestinians, instead of removing the reasons for their horrifying desperation (remember Epictetus). Dehumanising an entire people in the name of the "sacredness of every human life", as Thomas Friedman has done, is an especially repulsive example of demagoguery.
CowboyNeal seals his lips on CmdrTaco bunghole. CmdrTaco, for someone with your name you sure like your chimichangas. But CowboyNeal mouth must hate the taste of chimichanga poopitypoop. You should improve your diet for it will improve both your healths! Poor CowboyNeal eating CmdrTaco chimichanga poopitypoop...
Yep I got mine a month ago from Expansys in the UK.
Next day delivery, ordered on the day they were announced. They were even cheaper than the high street price (now that's its in the high street), despite them being amoung first to market.
Congrats to them!
I mean if the range is that small why not just plug the damn thing in and do it in 1/10 of the time?
I know I'm going to hell, I'm just trying to get good seats.
Here with a link to sales info outside the US here.
Now if only I could find somewhere in this sad little corner of the world that I'm stuck in that actually stocks them
Really, computer components are the easily thing to purchase online.
they need to start working on wireless recharging. has anyone seen a palm accessory that recharges the battery from kinetic energy of being carried around, like those watches? would this be feasible?
For when the people you chat with are sitting 6 feet away.®
heaven forbid that you're an existing palm user, with, say, a m100, or a IIIex (the cheap model), that were the last models to come out before the SDIO slot was standard. i guess this is the "killer hardware" to get people to upgrade. I'd still like to see a bluetooth "chip" that i can plug into the serial port of my m100.
there's a serial -> USB adaptor.... i'm sure that + a bluetooth card from Apple + lots of time and effort = a usable solution. of course; it won't work with any of palm's new spiffy bluetooth apps, such as "bluechat" (aim over bluetooth, essentially), and blueboard (networked "whiteboard" app)
personally what i'd like to see is a USB bluetooth adaptor like apple's d-link one, that has the driver software on it (linux, mac, windows) on 64k of flash memory, + java aim/jabber chat, lynx web browser, and dhcp built in. plug it into your ipaq, laptop, or school computer.
moox. for a new generation.
and there are some cool applications. For instance, Nokia is planning a Bluetooth headset piece so there will be no wires connecting cell phone to headset. I can't wait to see that in action.
The same moment that Israel occupies Palestina, the gentlemen imperialistic and kapitalist-puppets Bush and Blair decide to bombard Iraq. For what reason ? Because Iraq doesn't allow weapon-inspections. Why can UK,USA and Israel have weapons of mass-destruction and Iraq not ? because Saddam attacked Kuwait ? Come on ! What is Israel doing ? Why should the Iraqi people suffer for the idiocy of their dictator THAT THE USA HAS PLACED THERE ?????
Yes, I'm left. You have a problem with that?
Yes, they theoretically interfere. But every person who's actually tried it with real devices in the real world knows it's not actually a problem.
/non issue/. It's just FUD putting people off for no good reason and it's very disappointing to see - BlueTooth in the US is lagging as it is - it's a great technology and I'm very happy with it (I'm just glad I'm in Europe and can take advantage of greater BlueTooth product avalibility!).
I wish people who've never tried it would stop making such a big deal out of the fact that they happen to cross frequencies - it's REALLY such a
Bluetooth (on my Palm to T39) works very happly with my G4 PowerBook w/ Airport on my lap - neither experience any noticeable problems or cut out.
Both protocals are designed to cope with interference. It's not as if you 'suddenly lose a connection' or 'your bandiwidth suddenly drops' - nothing noticeable happens (network activity is fine and the PDA->Phone interaction is flawless).
Everyone who's actually used them outside of a lab says the same thing. If you had 100 bluetooth devices in the same room, all broadcasting at once, then I wouldn't be too suprised to see a little network slowdown, but even at that extreme, life would be bearable.
Can someone tell me how to get Jedi Knight II to run under Linux? I figure as a bunch of pathetic star wars fans with a hard on for linus you may be able to tell me.
If I can't get this to work, fuck it. Back to Windows XP.
Simputer is All set to hit the market in India. The Open Source Computer(Hardware) Has found its first makers in Encore Solutions who will start selling It within the next one month. {sources internal} This will give the iPaq and palms a run for their money as the simputer is loaded with features like Internal Modem smartcard reader and usb port there are plans to add a gsm phone into it too watchout Nokia! .And one third the price its supposed to be 10,000 Indian Rupees thats around
$210 try comparing it to the ipaq.
Did you ask what it is based on?
Its Linux 2.4 man with gtk and its developer kit is as free as the hardware itself. this looks like hot stuff to go for -- pankaj@fig.org
I've got a Sharp Zaurus and this would suit me fine (much less power drain than wireless Ethernet, and it could talk to my T38 'phone). Does anyone know any technical reason why this card wouldn't work on the Zaurus apart from lack of software (which can be fixed)? I take it that the Palm SD slot is the same as the Zaurus...
--I shall go back a bit, and tell you the authentic history of Christianity.--The very word "Christianity" is a misunderstanding--at bottom there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross. The "Gospels" died on the cross. What, from that moment onward, was called the "Gospels" was the very reverse of what he had lived: "bad tidings," a Dysangelium. It is an error amounting to nonsensicality to see in "faith," and particularly in faith in salvation through Christ, the distinguishing mark of the Christian: only the Christian way of life, the life lived by him who died on the cross, is Christian. . . To this day such a life is still possible, and for certain men even necessary: genuine, primitive Christianity will remain possible in all ages. . . . Not faith, but acts; above all, an avoidance of acts, a different state of being. . . . States of consciousness, faith of a sort, the acceptance, for example, of anything as true--as every psychologist knows, the value of these things is perfectly indifferent and fifth-rate compared to that of the instincts: strictly speaking, the whole concept of intellectual causality is false. To reduce being a Christian, the state of Christianity, to an acceptance of truth, to a mere phenomenon of consciousness, is to formulate the negation of Christianity. In fact, there are no Christians. The "Christian"--he who for two thousand years has passed as a Christian--is simply a psychological self-delusion. Closely examined, it appears that, despite all his "faith," he has been ruled only by his instincts--and what instincts!--In all ages--for example, in the case of Luther--"faith" has been no more than a cloak, a pretense, a curtain behind which the instincts have played their game--a shrewd blindness to the domination of certain of the instincts . . .I have already called "faith" the specially Christian form of shrewdness--people always talk of their "faith" and act according to their instincts. . . In the world of ideas of the Christian there is nothing that so much as touches reality: on the contrary, one recognizes an instinctive hatred of reality as the motive power, the only motive power at the bottom of Christianity. What follows therefrom? That even here, in psychologicis, there is a radical error, which is to say one conditioning fundamentals, which is to say, one in substance. Take away one idea and put a genuine reality in its place--and the whole of Christianity crumbles to nothingness !--Viewed calmly, this strangest of all phenomena, a religion not only depending on errors, but inventive and ingenious only in devising injurious errors, poisonous to life and to the heart--this remains a spectacle for the gods-- for those gods who are also philosophers, and whom I have encountered, for example, in the celebrated dialogues at Naxos. At the moment when their disgust leaves them (--and us!) they will be thankful for the spectacle afforded by the Christians: perhaps because of this curious exhibition alone the wretched little planet called the earth deserves a glance from omnipotence, a show of divine interest. . . . Therefore, let us not underestimate the Christians: the Christian, false to the point of innocence, is far above the ape--in its application to the Christians a well--known theory of descent becomes a mere piece of politeness. . . .
"You're just scared like a little white pussy. I'll fuck you till you love me, you faggot!"
Ericsson have had a BlueTooth hands free for months (maybe even a year now).
:)
:)
:). Steep at 150 UKP though!
They have 3 different models, the first one had technical probs, there is a new one which looks identical but fixes the bugs
There is a third one which looks like a set of stereo headphones, but it attaches to a battery back around your waist (so you may as well just get a normal hands free and stick your phone in your pocket). This one is lame
My boss has one of the new, good kind (and I will two just as soon as my flat mate and my tenant both pay me the rent the are owe
Does anyone else think that $129 is an absurd price for this? I thought the entire idea of Bluetooth was that it was going to be so cheap it could just be integrated into everything. Looks like we're still going to have to wait a while for that.
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Under Konqueror. Man, does this browser suck dick. Way to go team!
Just download the Bluetooth software from Apple and viola! Palm Desktop will automagically sync with your Palm!
Apple's done a wonderful job with their software, I even got it to pair with my SonyEricsson! No third party drivers required! Cool stuff...
For you IMDB buffs, the ericsson model was of course featured in the Tomb Raider movie.
---- Den ene knappen er powerknapp, den andre er Bender voice knapp "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass"
But All I want for my palm is a Bluetooth(TM) charger!
Is it just me, or does this card look fragile? It sure looks like the antenna will protrude beyond the edge of the device. Given how thin MMC/SD/SDIO cards are, this might afford the user considerable opportunity to damage the card and/or device it's installed in. I haven't seen the cards myself, so it's certainly possible that I'm simply incorrect--but it's worth checking out before spending the $130, I imagine...
Phil
I don't care so much of finding a product like this, what I care about is surrounding in a place that actually uses this or any other kool technology so that I may actually NEED a product like this. I almost feel like there is so much kool stuff out there, but it is just that, out there. Somebody please point a finger (not the middle one) and show me the way!
I guess this makes slashdot a love/hate realationship. I get to see all the kool stuff, however I never get to actually use it, I just get to read about people using it!
Desperate in the Middle of Nowhere
"Entertain the Brutes"
They are available and in stock at FranklinCovey of all places!
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http://shopping.franklincovey.com/html/ibeCCtpI
There are 20 available as of this posting.
I cant believe this is even news ... I walked in about two weeks ago to Fry's Electronics for a memory stick, when I saw a MMC BlueTooth card by palm sitting there in front of me. I thought to myself ... WOW Palm finally released it, put it down then went on my business. There were lots of them scattered everywhere and the barcode tape even worn a little like its been there for a while. Did someone just stumble apon it like I have and just decide to share it to the rest of the world? If thats the case .... HEY They just released neat trashcans with foot levers to oopen the lid! Check it out, its in the inventory control system of Fry's Marketplace now.
www.widget.co.uk have been shipping a bluetooth module for handspring PDA's for several weeks now.
All things in moderation; including moderation
The Staples in Cambridge had at least one in stock last Friday
OK, so there probably are some bluetooth cell phones out there (I sure don't have one) but why don't cell phone manufacturers/distributors and/or wireless carriers offer a service that downloads a simple CSV phone list to your phone?
Heck, I'd pay $10 per shot to email my phone list to some address that would download it to my phone. OK, so there are some privacy implications, so don't download any numbers you don't want someone else to know.
The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
-- Molly Ivins
I heard the other day that a company called Pellico Systems has figured out a way to turn the Palm VII and VIIx into always-on devices. Because of the obvious battery drain problem there weren't many people trying to figure this out but since their product already solves the battery problem it makes sense that they figured this out.
There's nothing on their site about how to do this but I heard it will be posted soon. There supposed to be some software involved too and I don't see any software by them....
http://www.pellico.com
This'll be great considering the price of the Palm VIIx is soooo low these days. Palms wireless service still needs improving but if you have coverage, this might be worth a look. It's gotta be cheaper than the $400+ i705 just because the VIIx goes for around $100 and their product is only $40.
I've been syncing Outlook on my PeeCee with an AmbiCom BT combo CF/PCCard and my Palm 505 for a month. And just got my Apple Dlink USB BT device so now I sync also with my G4 Powerbook and Plam Desktop under OSX as of Saturday.
Typical crappy slashdot. Reject real news like the benchmark that shows Althon XPs running at 667Mhz less than the new P4 2+Ghz benchmarks about the same in performance, yet publish someone's discovery of a product that has been out for a month as new. No wonder they want to to start paying for this tripe--they can't give it away.
A good question to ask yourself is why would you want to
give up that SD slot just for BlueTooth connectivity.
I use SD memory cards in my Palm m500 all of the time,
removing them just to insert a bluetooth module would
be too much of a hassle for it to be actually useful.
I think I'll try TDK's BlueM -- it piggybacks on the Palm,
plugging into the expansion port, leaving the SD slot
free for memory cards.
$129 in the US
:(
$131 in the UK
Hmmmmmmmm interesting use of an exchange rate there
I know they often swap the $ for a £, which is a shame already, but increasing it as well?
It works well, but it's a lot to carry around compared to any given small mobile phone -- and keeping two devices charged just to use my mobile phone (which can go for days without being used) is a little on the annoying side. I'm sure if I used my mobile more I'd also use the handsfree kit. Also, winter is just about to arrive so I'll be waering a jacket with more carrying capacity.
It's a shame that I can't use it with my corded MP3 handsfree kit. And it's also a shame that there hasn't been a Bluetooth solution for my TRGpro released yet. At least, not last time I checked.