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Playstation 3 In the Works
Kredal writes "The Independent is running a story about Sony's work on a new console, being built around online games, such as Everquest Adventures and Final Fantasy 11. No word on backwards compatability, but expect it to be the X-Box killer if it is."
FF11 already has me lusting.
Gee, and Sony fans have already been saying that the PS2 was an Xbox killer. Sony must really be feeling the pressure if they're planning on coming out with the PS3 anytime soon.
why can't people play on the systems that are out already and get on with their gaming lives.
... yeah, in about 2 years! What are you going to do until then, keep playing your N64?
Speculation like this killed the Dreamcast. Oh.. the PS2's gonna be sooo good.
Then you get lame kiddies saying stuff like "I don't want an Xbox. I'm getting a PS3, it will wipe the floor with the Xshite"
Eventually people nned to buy a current system. The best time to do so is now. Once a console has been released and then discounted (to rip off the earlier adopters) it's worth buying.
I rate the Xbox as better than the PS2, but not enough software is out there yet. People are still going nuts for MGS2 on the PS2, but it takes like a day to finish it on your first time out.
Buy an Xbox/PS2 and be done with it.
The news of the PS3 is cool, but christ, don't wait for it!
PS2 is hardly a new console, and I doubt anybody is surprised that, to quote, they're in "advanced stages of developing PlayStation 3". MS briedly talked about Xbox2, what, a month after the Xbox was out?
Anway, the article is really quite boring, nothing yet unknown is revealed, and of course there is not even a vague release date for the PS3.
Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
It darn well better be backwards compatible, or they'll piss off a lot of developers. And the majority of the world that doesn't have broadband . . .
...companies around the world work on new products, and many focused on the same market as previous products. More news on this odd occurance as we get more.
But seriosuly, if noone expected Sony to do anything to move to the PS3 some day, they don't understand buisness much. And online is the future by what everyone is saying, so makes sense.
With more and more gamers playing consoles, expect some expectations of faster upgrades and such to start occuring.
I sure hope that Sony continues to make systems that are backwards compatable. I think that really gave Sony a major edge over the Nintendo Game Cube. Games are really expensive and it's nice to be able to continue playing the games on newer systems. Otherwise you either don't play the older games anymore or you have several systems connected in a giant mess to your TV. It might prevent Sony from using media that has more data on it, but I think they would be more successful keeping with a backwards compatable system.
FoonDog
Then you get lame kiddies saying stuff like "I don't want an Xbox. I'm getting a PS3, it will wipe the floor with the Xshite" ... yeah, in about 2 years! What are you going to do until then, keep playing your N64?
This is much like an old urban legend, made popular through Scott Adams' Dilbert books. Once upon the time there was a company trying to sell some hideously expensive piece of hardware. Prospective clients were wary, so the salesteam tells them "Hey, Every single concern you have will be fixed by Version 2 of this hardware!" The clients then do not buy version 1, and bide their time.
Just about the time Version 2 comes out, the clients come back, and the salesteam says "Here's Version 2! ..but man, Version 3 is *really* gonna rock!" Clients then hold off to wait till Version 3 is ready because of the raw cost of the hardware and the legacy nature of the product.
Meanwhile, the company goes bankrupt because everybody's locked in a holding pattern.
This tired old legend doesn't really fit in right with the console market, as these toys are tools for entertainment -- not legacy hardware that you're expected to keep and maintain for five or ten years, such as cars and houses. Sure, some of us gamers do, but it's not the expectation.
I've heard people say that, "not many people have broadband." However, the people buying these systems most often do. I suspect that the percentage of Xbox owners with broadband is much higher than average.
Also, the issue of backward compatability? It's cool, but if you're going to make a new gaming system, don't worry about the old stuff. If the gaming world has taught people anything it's, "don't worry, I'll buy anything just to play that." How many people have bought new graphics cards because of ONE game?
Sure, a developer would love to see their PS2 games run on the PS?, but would they rather do more with their new titles? You betcha. Game developers love their work, and seeing it fully realized is a better feeling than knowing that it is more compatable, but you had to sacrifice the vision of the game. Remember, we're not making a word processor here.
Cheers.
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How much will MS have to spend to develop the XBox2? Well, let's see... Get a faster mobo, fast gpu, and faster cpu. Done! And it is backwards compatible with the old one already! And the development tools won't require learning some fancy new architecture. MS has stumbled out of the gate, but long term who really has the advantage here?
Lasers Controlled Games!
Also maybe Sony should take their time and develope a quality console that will meet the needs of the gaming public, even if it takes a few extra months to a year. They have already demonstrated their market dominence over the superior (hardware wise) machines of their competition. Points to consider, make it easier to program, anti-aliasing (!!!), ditch the 2 controller model (multi taps suck, four controller ports on board is great), for that matter peripherals on a console suck.
I look forward to the PS3, but please, take you time and give me something remotely worth the ammount money I am going to have to drop on this thing (and the ammount of time I am going to have to spend in line to get the damn thing on launch day)...
Note to self: No more arguing with the faithful.
I'm sure the final design of the PS3 is going to have a hard drive, a decent amount of RAM, and an Ethernet port.
You mean like the X-Box does already?
Hardware doesn't sell consoles, GAMES do. And that's why the X-Box is currently failing. That, and an overwhelming desire from anyone with the slightest bit of technical savvy to see Microsoft fail.
Just wait for Linux to be available on the X-Box, and it'll fly off the shelves. Look at how popular the Dreamcast is now, even after it's been discontinued. A cheap bundle of PC hardware makes for a good hackers toy.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
I will never by a product that include technology from RealNetworks. Sony is probably wanting to license Real's techniques for tricking consumers into subscribing to their service.
But seriously. RealNetworks is a terribly anticonsumer company. They make crap software and use deceptive practices to snare consumers into their subscription trap. And then they share your personal information with "selected partners." It's evil I tell you, evil.
But sadly, it is the direction in which a lot of internet companies are heading these days. I respect the right to make a buck, but not through deceptive practices that take advantage of some consumers.
I don't want to sound like my grandpa (I'm only 23!), but back in the day, when I was gaming on a daily basis, the games were just so much more fun to play. With Nintendo you had the mega man, final fantasy, zelda, mario, and metroid, and on sega you had all the sports games. These games could be picked up and learned in a few minutes, but took hours and hours to master. And were fun all the way along. There are of course some exceptions, but games and systems today seem to be all about tech. bragging points and cinema scenes. The push to be the most high tech. and have the most titles has cause the gaming industry to accept quantity over quality. This brings me on topic...Playstation has to be the worst offender in these areas and seems to be dead set on continuing that trend. Thrid party licensees crank out sh*t games and Sony braggs about having so many titles. 50% of those games are basically racing games featuring different vehicles/settings. Ex. XXS snowboarding, it's fun to play for 20 minutes and looks pretty, but really, how much can you look at scenery when you're in the middle of a game! Meanwhile game developers are stumbling over themselves to make 'adult themed' games that may look pretty or gross sometimes but are an absolute bore to play. And last but not least, Nintendo all but turns it's back on older gamers when they sent the Gamecube controllers back to the drawing board to make them smaller b/c kids in their testing groups said they were too big...
Thank you Dave Raggett
GameGear was one of the coolest handhelds I've ever seen. Way ahead of its time, IMHO. It was a portable, full-colour handheld gaming system with a backlit LCD. You could play the thing in full colour in a pitch dark room, out of the box. What systems, even today, can make such a claim?
It's drawbacks were lack of games, pretty pricey, and it ate batteries like Oprah goes through Twinkies.
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Supposedly we'll see a significant price drop in the US PS2 after E3 at the end of May. This is still just a rumor, but it seems plausible. I would wait to see.
PS2 has enough good games out now to justify buying one, and more are on the way. Plus there are many games available used. That makes it a wise buy.
Wait for PS3? Why not wait for PS4 while you're at it? IMHO, it's better to wait until after the first price cut for a console, then jump on board.
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A pentagon implies a 2 dimensional shape.
It is a GameCube, not a GameSquare, thus GamePentagon would not be the natural progression.
Honestly, my vote would be for GameSphere. Boxy shapes are so 2001... or so 2002 for you Europeans who are always a year behind the times.
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