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Quartz Extreme Demo Movie
Anonymous Coward writes "The Swedish web site MacNytt has a QuickTime demo of Quartz Extreme (the graphics acceleration technology in the upcoming Mac OS X "Jaguar" release). It is impressive footage, truly impressive. Now I can watch DVDs at a microscopic level!"
Don't you think users with poor vision might appreciate being able to zoom their screen?
It's pretty damn impressive. I think we've seen yet another advance in GUI technology from Apple.
http://members.cox.net/ronin4701/QuartzExtremeTest riktigfil.mov
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http://clem.mscd.edu/~grahamry/QuartzExtremeTes
The blackout of the DVD has nothing to do with the graphics card -- DVDs are blacked out to prevent people from infringing copyrighted material.
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The DVD window isn't actually black -- it's a dark shade of ugly green and the system uses something to replace that with the DVD footage. In OS9, you could set your desktop graphic to this color and play DVDs on your desktop.
To confirm that you can take screen shots of graphics that are accelerated in the graphics card, I took a screen shot of iTunes showing a psychedelic animation inside a window. The screen shot shows the openGL graphics as well as the desktop and other windows.
That machine is ancient in Mac-time. You don't see me griping about not having HW acceleration on a Lombard do you? No, I went out and bought a DP 800 G4 so I could play too.
Why is it that you purchased a machine with a cripple mobile graphics card and then were surprised to discover its limitations?
Quartz extreme is *not* meant for everyone. It is lucky that Apple is releasing it this early at all; Microsoft's fully accellerated GUI is more than a year away, likely more than two. Unaccellerated Quartz is still very fast and very advanced - still unlike anything any other OS has.
Also doing text on GL has always been a bit weird - lining up pixels and so on is kind of awkward. Unaccellerated Quartz will always be there, and always be reliable. It's not like Apple is suddenly making OS X only work on these video cards.
You're not going to expect Doom III to work on these machines as well, are you?
That's just like those damn ID Software people that keep putting out new games that make us buy new video cards!
Anyway...one clarification:
You forgot "to its fullest extent." Read the Quartz Extreme specs again, and pay special attention to the word 'recommended.' Look it up if you need to.NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local
Man, what I wouldn't give to have Zoom on my iBook. The resolution is just too darn high, I keep finding myself slouching to get a better look at the screen. Does zoom require Quartz Extreme hardware goodness? Given that the whole Quartz system is supposedly PDF based there would be no technical justification for that--I was kind of shocked when I discovered original 10.0 OS X didn't have a zooming feature--without zoom, what's the point of having everything in PDF?!
So, you can't do lots of cool little tricks. Jaguar does have plenty of other graphics optimizations. I've seen it fly on iBooks. It's simply faster. OS X has up until now been worked on for functionality, not speed. Now Apple's optimizing it, and it is crazy fast. CRAZY FAST.
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Snapz Pro can only grab shots from DVD if you're using an Nvidia card.
Well, lets think for a second that maybe not EVERYBODY in the world has your wonderful vision.
In fact, many people with handicaps are prevented from using computers because they can't distinguish the shapes on the screen. Intensive magnification of the screen contents allows these people to use computers effectively.
The zooming is actually magnification of the screen, I think the really nifty part that they were trying to show was the real time zooming on a DVD image with no slowdown of the dvd frame rate. ( I believe they were pausing the dvd here and there, I could be wrong)
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It was just a nasty surprise to read about how sexy cool Quartz Extreme would be until I'm drooling, then get all of those dreams dashed to pieces by brutal, brutal reality. Such is life.
Hardware graphics acceleration for my Pismo is not an unreasonable request!
Sorry, but it's a hardware limitation. QZX requires a graphics accelerator chip that can handle non-power-of-two textures.
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No, that's the translation of "Minimum Requirements" :)
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Yes, how dare Apple develop new technology that utilizes the latest (and future) hardware to its fullest!
Exactly! I am still upset that Apple is adding AltiVec enhancements. If iMacs and iBooks cannot benifit from it, Apple should never start adding it to the OS until every machine offered by Apple has had at least a G4 for at least a year (so as to prevent anyone from yelling "But I just bought my iBook six months ago, and it will not support it!")
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All indications show that Jaguar will offer a speed-up for non-QE capable machines.
Perhaps Apple could have written QE with the Rage Pro in mind. I am guessing doing that would seriously prevent the major speed-up we are going to see instead. Doing so would be ignoring the increased bandwidth offered by AGP 4x and the increased capabilities of having 32 megs of VRAM on-board.
I am glad to see Apple writing software for the future with the past in mind, but not driving development.
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Here's a better one. It's 20mb. Someone please MIRROR it as I don't want to be slashdotted.
http://207.182.242.235/jaguardemo1.mov (right click and save is probably wise).
I made that a few days ago (posted the link on macrumors), to see if that QE video was for real. It was, but there are some issues with sound. My footage has sound, so you can hear when it cuts out. QE is not as wonderful as the original video made it seem, but it isn't bad either. There's also a comparision at the end trying to do the same things under 10.1.4.
Again, please be kind and mirror that video.
There was also a demo shown (I can't find it now though) of the OpenGL Teapot and some other figures floating around on the screen. They were infront of a DVD and the DVD was reflecting on them. It was pretty awsome.
The transparent terminals on top of the DVD are pretty cool too, although I think the biggest improvement that QE will bring is the increased speed.
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You mean a project to convert X11 into an OpenGL stream (which is basicaly what QE does), or do you want Quartz on Linux?
I seriously doubt there is either going on, although the Berlin Project might bring it closer to reality.
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If you're implying Quartz Extreme will work, but perform poorly, on non-Radeon/GeForce>2 hardware you are incorrect. Older cards just use plain 'old' Quartz. It's the video RAM that the recommendation speaks of, suggesting 32MB. I know for a fact that Quartz Extreme doesn't work on lesser cards; I'm using Jaguar on my late 2001 iBook right now.
If you're not implying that, sorry, please disregard this post.
Now for the random screenshots...
Startup Disk. The only place where the OS is refered to as "10.2", thus feeding the "10.5" rumours.
Lots of new Jaguar Stuff. New System Preferences, About This Mac, iChat, Terminal, About QuickTime...
Aqua Blue Beachball. The new spinning cursor.
Anyway, if you want to know anything specifically, post here...
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Screenshot is a supported feature of InterVideo WinDVD (yeah, it's not Mac, but it's still a DVD player)... just press the "P" key, I think. The DVD forum didn't prevent them from adding that feature...