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Ximian to Bundle StarOffice 6.0

rainmanjag writes "A Ximian press release is reporting that Ximian will be bundling StarOffice 6.0 for Linux with the packaged version of Ximian Desktop Professional, Red Carpet Express, and Red Carpet CorporateConnect." This means that both Ximian and Mandrakesoft are offering comprehensive software bundles which happen to include StarOffice 6.0, a package which would otherwise cost more by itself than either of the bundles.

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  1. Re:i know its been said before... by Surak · · Score: 3, Informative

    StarOffice includes templates, fonts and clipart that OOo doesn't.

    ....sooo....you just take the template fonts and clipart from your StarOffice 6.0 beta (which was free for all takers) and put them into your OpenOffice 1.0 setup. :)

    Seriously, someone ought to put together an Open Sourced set of templates, fonts, clipart, etc. And no I did NOT just volunteer! Stop looking at me like that! :P

  2. On a related note... by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    OpenOffice 1.0 is available through Red Carpet.

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    Someday, you're going to die. Get over it.
  3. Re:What's Ximian? by Alan+Cox · · Score: 2, Informative

    Poor little troll.

    Red Hat ship a whole ton of Ximian code. Some of it like Evolution in 7.3 is really rather good too.

  4. List of differences between OO and SO by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This seems to happen everytime there's a story about openoffice.org or staroffice. Here's a list of the major points:

    1. StarOffice 6 is released and costs $75.95/seat.
    2. StarOffice 6 and OpenOffice.org are built from the same codebase
    3. StarOffice 6 includes niceties and extras that OpenOffice.org doesn't include (many templates, nice clipart, a manual, and a database component)

    If you need to do basic stuff, OpenOffice.org will be just fine. If you want to a database tool to go along with your office suite, you'd need StarOffice 6.

  5. Re:Diffrence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Differences are listed here

  6. Koffice by DeadBugs · · Score: 5, Informative
    Am I the only one who likes KOffice?
    Try it if you don't want to shell out money for Staroffice or want a great alternative to Openoffice. I have been using it for about a year and although still limited compared to MS Office I like it alot. Here's what it comes with:

    KWord - A frame-based word processor

    KSpread - spreadsheet application.

    KPresenter - full-featured presentation program.

    Kivio - Visio®-style flowcharting application.

    Kontour - vector drawing application.

    Krita - raster-based image manipulation program

    Kugar - tool for generating business quality reports.

    Kchart - ntegrated graph and chart drawing tool. Sorry I am also one of those who thinks "screw diversity". Linux should rally behind a few key projects, instead of several projects trying to re-invent the wheel

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    1. Re:Koffice by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, the good news is that KOffice includes some stuff, like Kontour, that isn't available in open-source form anywhere else. The bad news is that the KOffice developers are spread way too thin. For instance, their link to the Kontour documentation is broken, and an e-mail asking where it had gotten to resulted in no response. I'm not trying to put them down, but they just don't seem to have enough people to keep everything going. Another example: at the address where they used to have KSpell, I recently found a porn site instead. This time I happened to know the developer, and how to get in touch with him. Again, it's not an issue of blame -- he's a great guy -- but it just shows that they might have bitten off more than they can chew. And then there's the issue of the Qt licensing. I hate to dig out this hoary old chestnut, but it really is a problem. I'm not trying to be ideologically purer than anyone else, but it's just not free software.

    2. Re:Koffice by 1010011010 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not available anywhere else?

      How about SodiPodi?

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    3. Re:Koffice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      yup, koffice 1.2 is fully scriptable with dcop... which you acn use from the command line (shell scripts), perl, python, ruby, or anything else that has dcopbindings (very, very, very easy to create, a few lines).

    4. Re:Koffice by Brad+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      /me switches from gimp-for-windows to respond. Yes, gtk+ runs on Windows. That's one of the great things about having a portability library (glib) underneath.

      Peace.

  7. Re:Diffrence by Tony-A · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is Star Office that much better than open office.org? Or is it just the name/image thing?
    Better, maybe. But that's not the fundamental difference. If there's a problem with Star Office, it's Sun's problem. If there's a problem with Open Office, it's the user's problem. This doesn't mean that Sun can or will fix any problems faster than Open Office. It's just where the ultimate responsibility lies. If I'm a PHB, I will buy Star Office. If I'm a crafty PHB, I will buy Star Office, download Open Office, and use whatever seems to work best.

  8. Re:Ximian software is just too unstable by fejjie · · Score: 2, Informative

    uh, anytime someone says to do --nodeps or --force - you know that they haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.

    you think red-carpet messed up your system? I guarentee that

    rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -qa | grep ximian`

    will leave your system in an even less usable state than anything red-carpet could do.

  9. Re:Diffrence by SteelX · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ah, the eternal question about StarOffice/OpenOffice.org differences. According to OpenOffice.org's FAQ, the differences are as follows:

    The source code available at OpenOffice.org does not consist of all of the StarOffice code. Usually, the reason for this is that Sun pays to license third party code to include in StarOffice that which it does not have permission to make available in OpenOffice.org. Those things which are or will be present in StarOffice but are not available on OpenOffice.org include:
    • Certain fonts (including, especially, Asian language fonts)
    • The database component (Adabas D)
    • Some templates
    • Extensive Clip Art Gallery
    • Some sorting functionality (Asian versions)
    • Certain file filters

    In addition, Sun also has a FAQ that says:

    StarOffice 6.0 softwre is a commercial product aimed at organizations and consumers while OpenOffice.org 1.0 is aimed at users of free software, independent developers and the open source community. StarOffice includes licensed-in, third-party technology such as:
    • Spellchecker and thesaurus
    • Database component (Software AG Adabas D).
    • Select fonts including Windows metrically equivalent fonts and Asian language fonts
    • Select filters, including WordPerfect filters and Asian word processor filters
    • Integration of additional templates and extensive clipart gallery

    In addition to product differences, StarOffice offers:
    • Updates/upgrades on CD
    • Sun installation and user documentation
    • 24x7 Web based support for enterprises and consumers
    • Help desk support
    • Warranties and indemnification guarantee
    • Training
    • Professional services for migration and deployment


    Hope it helps!