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Would You Attend a Slashdot Convention?

J.J. Lee asks: "I must say that I'm truly touched. I've just read some of the peoples' response to the System Administrators - College or Career? posting and I found it very encouraging that people have posted selfless, useful, encouraging and helpful advice to a complete stranger. I've been a Slashdot devotee for about a year now and I know this wasn't the first time I felt proud to be in such a community. The responses (for the most part) were well though out and had a genuine concern for this young fellow. Would the Slashdot community be willing to come together for an annual convention or event? If so, what would be the theme and what talks would a convention like this have? Just thought it might be great to meet some people and get to know each other on a non-virtual level." I've been doing Ask Slashdot for somewhere close to 5 years, and it's been one of the best experiences of my life. I sure wouldn't mind meeting some of the faces behind the nicknames (particularly this "Anonymous Coward" chap), what about you? If not a huge convention, would local get-togethers be more your speed?

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  1. Games to play... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, at some conventions they have games like "Spot the Narc" or "Spot the Fed". WE could have games like "spot the hidden goatse.cx link", "Who is the most Anonymous Coward?", pin the first post on the troll, etc.

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    1. Re:Games to play... by xixax · · Score: 5, Funny

      One thousands geeks crushed in a frantic attempt to be the first person in a seminar session. Someone wearing a "Microsoft's Freedom to innovate" shirt gets modded out of the venue by a gang of kernel hackers for being a troll.

      Xix.

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    2. Re:Games to play... by caca_phony · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like the idea of nametags with the nick on one side and Anonymous Coward on the other, that could be easily flipped over. And pin the first post on the troll sounds good. Or maybe pin the mod on the troll. I can just imagine the fillibustering (ie. face to face crapflood).

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  2. Only if... by tswinzig · · Score: 3

    ...the people I've berated over the years promise not to try and kill me at the convention.

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    1. Re:Only if... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Quoth Wally to Dilbert: "You're pretty brave in cyberspace, Flame-Boy."

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  3. And I forgot... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

    At night, after the conference, we could go out and pick up a couple of Karma Whores...

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  4. I can see it now... by lexarius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Convention center booked for Slashdot Convention. Unlucky town immediately slashdotted out of existence. Story at 11.

  5. In Ann Arbor? by SuperguyA1 · · Score: 2

    Sure if it's in Ann Arbor. I live here anyway:)

    Acutally. It would depend on the theme. I go to confrences to learn or to network. What would be the purpose of a /. confrence. Would it be just a get together or would there be topical discussions.

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  6. blah by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would probably be a good vessel on which to piggyback a keysigning party.

    But that's about all it would be good for, IMHO. I certainly wouldn't make a special trip for it. I doubt many would.

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  7. Pros and Cons by Morgant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty much, to me a slashdot convention sounds a lot like communism: if you could ever get it to work the way you thought it was supposed to, everything would be great...but that's not ever going to happen. Slashdot is undoubtedly a great community, and one that I'm happy to be a part of, but I believe that a community like Slashdot could only exist in an environment like the internet and trying to turn it into a more conventional (no pun intended) community would only lead to ruin.

    What I'm saying here is that Slashdot is about up-to-date nerd news, and letting all the nerds who come here every day say what's on their mind (even the trolls). If ever there was a convention, letting everyone have their say would have to go right out the window, and then I don't see that it would be much different than any other tech convention. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, I just don't see this working out well in the end.

    1. Re:Pros and Cons by ManDude · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If ever there was a convention, letting everyone have their say would have to go right out the window.

      For many of us we make rare apperiences and spend a lot of time enjoying others banter. I think the mix of activists, case modders, opensource purests, people selling their latest and greatest, negatives, positives, coders, users, etc would be like any other convention but we would be spending our time celebrating all of it instead of selling one point of it and hiding the rest for the sake of X Inc. This doesn't mean we have to all speak at the same time the same way I can't read all of the different types of posts on the same page.

      Don't be scared. I am sure if it were to ever come about you would find yourself surounded by warm, fun, well informed (maybe a stretch) people like yourself. Embrace and extend ;p

  8. First Reactions by Stigmata669 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have to say I am somewhat suprised by the first few responces, asside from those which suggest sex with farm animals. I thought the Slashdot Community would have been a little more anxious to be as sociable and helpful in person as they are online. But then it hit me. The Slashdot Community consists of a really diverse range of people, most of whom i wouldn't really like to meet. There's everything from 13 year old script kiddies to 60 year old unix gurus, and everything inbetween. And that diversity that would make a "reunion" a little weird is what makes Slashdot such a sucessful online community. There is something for everybody on Slashdot. Although this has been a source of complaint in recent months ("What has happened to Slashdot?!?" and "This made front page?!?") I believe that because of the diverse nature of the followers Slashdot has to be the best source for news and tech talk on the net. Tristan

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  9. Yes, providing you price it reasonably by scotpurl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some other thoughts:

    Schedule it a half a year in advance so that I can book tickets and time off.

    Book it in a reasonably-priced hotel, or at least near reasonably-priced hotels (like $100/night or less). I pay for conferences out of my own pocket, which means I never attend conferences.

    Pick a city that's an airport hub, and central to the U.S. (Minneapolis, Chicago, St. Louis) so that airfares are cheaper, instead of the obvious and expensive cities like Boston, New York, and San Francisco. And when considering what's an expensive air fare city, think of flights out of smaller towns, not comparing L.A.-->Baltimore tickets.

    In short, do this so that the great unemployed can afford to go, and can make contacts. Don't do this as a moneymaker. I've chaired conferences before. I know what they cost, and I know how much money they can make. I also know how easy it is to make them affordable.

    If it works, make it an annual event, and pick the same location/city/weekend each year. We can then plan better, and "accidentally" be at a customer site, or on layover, in that city at the right weekend.

    1. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by isorox · · Score: 2

      or at least near reasonably-priced hotels (like $100/night or less).
      Pick a city that's an airport hub, and central to the U.S.
      In short, do this so that the great unemployed can afford to go

      So, american unemplyed can afford to fly half way across a continent and stay in a $100 a night hotel?

      I thought I was a well off student because I can afford a $60 a night hotel once a term (work hard to afford that at about $300pw in holidays)

      I dont know about in america, but in the uk unemplyment benefit is designed to keep you with a roof over your head and food in your belly. And it barely does that. What kind of a pinko lefty place is America when you can blow 2 weeks benifit on a slashdot convention?

    2. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by scotpurl · · Score: 2

      First, doubt I'd stay more than a night or two. I guess I should have added a weekend as a request (so I don't miss work), and so that I get the cheaper ticket for staying Saturday night at the destination.

      Second, the $100 a night sounds outrageous, until you see that most conventions I get flyers for have hotel rooms between $250-400/night. (Let's see, $500 round-trip ticket, $2,000 conference admission, 4 nights hotel at $250 plus tax to $300 -- yeah, I can afford $4,000.) The room shouldn't cost more than getting there. I can at least take one of the cheapo airport hotels the first night, and then move in to the conference hotel for a night, before leaving the next day. (How come hotels never offer discounts for staying more than 1 night?)

      Third, we're all ultra-nationalist, terrorist-fighting, god-fearing, flag-waving, hard-working, tax-paying, hyphenated-Americans over here. Welfare is evil, and we never take it, and farm subsidies and tariffs don't count as welfare. (You Brits will recognize the saracasm in there, but the Americans won't.) I wish it were more pinko leftist here. There'd be better foreign policy, fewer rights being violated, better, more consistent environmental policy, etc. etc.

      Fourth, I was trying to include students in my overly broad categorization of "the unemployed". So, yeah, I deserve that criticism. I'll make up for it. I wish the conference were run the way the American Association of Geographers (http://www.aag.org) runs their convention (excluding this year's convention in New Orleans, which is hopelessly fucked up). They pick a conference hotel, negotiate a reduced price, advertise the city a year in advance, and list the prices of, and distance to, all the proximal hotels. (I single out the New Orleans conference because this year they booked it late, during Mardi Gras week, didn't reserve any rooms, haven't published the schedule so that presenters and attendees know when they should be there...in short, you're just supposed to book a room for a week at $300/night, wade through crowds of urinating drunk people Mardi Gras celebrators, etc.)

    3. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by isorox · · Score: 2

      at $250 you're still talking more expensive then places like the Hilton, Paddington, London.

      Surely it doesnt matter, most cities have some kind of cheap hotels within half hours walk, or a short tube/metro/subway journey. After 5 minutes search I found a double room for $70 near central park. Does it matter if the convention is at the ritz just down the road? how much do taxis cost in new york?

      Most conventions I read about are less then $150 for a 3 day bash. I guess some guests are greedier then others.

      Doesnt the U.S. have low cost airlines? Out of the holiday season I can fly across europe (to greece) for about $150. Get the right deal and you can fly for about $10-15 each way plus airport taxes (another $20).

    4. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by nathanm · · Score: 2
      Pick a city that's an airport hub, and central to the U.S. (Minneapolis, Chicago, St. Louis) so that airfares are cheaper
      How about Detroit? It's another airline hub and Ann Arbor (and CmdrTaco) are nearby.

      I'd vote for Minneapolis though, I could stay at at home!
    5. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by bellings · · Score: 2

      After 5 minutes search I found a double room for $70 near central park.

      Uhh... you do NOT want to stay in that hotel. Believe me. Really, really cheap hotels in big US cities are not geared towards conventioneers. They're geared towards psychopaths and drug addicts who exchange their monthly disability checks for a cheap room. It's not exactly the kind of place you would want to bring an expensive laptop. Or cash. Or credit cards.

      how much do taxis cost in new york?

      I have no idea, but I assume they're the same in New York as they are just about anywhere else -- figure a minimum of $10 to go a city block, and and extra $5 a mile or so in very low traffic areas.

      Doesnt the U.S. have low cost airlines? Out of the holiday season I can fly across europe (to greece) for about $150.

      Sure. If I plan far enough in advance, I can fly from Fargo, North Dakota to Minneapolis, Minnesota for less than $200, round trip. In fact, during "the holiday season" (which in the US is defined as the "four day weekend near Christmas"), fares usually doesn't go up significantly.

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    6. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by josquint · · Score: 2

      I'd vote for Minneapolis though, I could stay at at home!

      I Second that!

      Although, michigan would be kinda fun too... not THAT far from MN and much closer to the heart of slashdot :)

    7. Re:Yes, providing you price it reasonably by bellings · · Score: 2

      Fargo and Minneapolis are close enough that a bus trip wouldn't be much longer

      A Greyhound bus trip from Fargo to Minneapolis takes about 6 hours. Round trip costs about $60.

      A Fargo-Minneapolis plane trip, including check in, is usually about 1 hour, 45 minutes.

      So, flying on the plane saves about 8 1/2 hours round trip, but costs an extra $130. It also avoids the downright squalid conditions on the Greyhound bus, which is a big bonus.

      Obviously, saving a day of work is worth more than $130 to me, and way more than $130 to my employer, but it's an irrelevant comparison. Everyone I know just takes the three hours to drive a car the 200 miles Minneapolis. Round trip, it's still two and a half hours more than the plane, but at least the tiem isn't as horrid as the bus.

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  10. Never by flikx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sorry, but how someone could be proud to be part of a 'community' such as what is found here on slashdot is completely baffling to me. As such for most online 'communities' across the internet. How one can feel companionship from complete strangers that you have never met, will most likely never meet; and will furthermore most likely never want to associate with in real life is beyond logical comprehension.

    Slashdot has degraded seriously over the years, this sort of 'community' just does not scale. I'm not refering to serving horsepower here, as the software and hardware actually scales quite well. I'm talking about the fact that such a comminity [in a sense] could not possibly scale to the level that you really have personal attention and the true sense of belonging with your peers. Of course, one could theorize that the system is merely made up of many smaller communities contributing to the great hive of slashdot. This is where the problem arises though, is that these microsystems do not generally follow geographic lines. In the real world , communities usually only form through geographical constraints, unlike the online counterparts.

    What I am getting at, is that trying to bring real world contact and sense of community involvement over into the real world would more than likely end up becomming a dismal failure. The chances are slim that your microcommunity fits within a local geographical boundary; and if it does, then there may be some serious problems.

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    1. Re:Never by John+Harrison · · Score: 2

      Which reminds me, we should meet up at the Pie sometime in the next two weeks before I move to Boston.

  11. Hrm.... by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 3, Funny

    All the trolls could bring printouts of goatse man and stick them in people's faces.

    We could mourn Stephen King together...

    Sounds like fun.

    Tim

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  12. online... by Perdo · · Score: 2

    we could have an online convention... and call it "slashdot"

    Meeting in person sounds like a high school reunion... brag brag brag blah blah blah and a few lucky winners have sex only to find out that their partners have misrepresented themselves... He is not really a millionair and she is actually the goatsex man.

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  13. you've got to be kidding... by Bogatyr · · Score: 5, Funny

    The moment every panel begins, the room echoes to a deafening squeal of "FIRST POST!", the trolls argue and whine incessantly, the cops are called to settle the Linux/BSD rumble, anyone self-identifying as a Windows admin is branded "tool of Gates" with a branding iron improvised from a hotelroom coffeemaker, JonKatz is hung from the ballroom ceiling and used as a pinata, the hotel's network crashes under the load of Snow Crash-inspired gargoyles walking around transmitting live webcam footage from everywhere simultaneously - not to mention the raging hackwars across the hotel network and the perpetual Unreal/Quake tournament. Noo...

    1. Re:you've got to be kidding... by rubinson · · Score: 2

      ...JonKatz is hung from the ballroom ceiling and used as a pinata...

      And this is a bad thing how?

  14. Re:No. by WEFUNK · · Score: 2

    No.

    No. No nono no.
    [and it goes on like this...]

    Looks like AC's out for sure. If the top poster's not showing up I don't see it happening.

    Personally, it would be interesting to see how some Slashdotter's do without a preview button and karma bonus. Also, in the tradition of Slashdot consuming so many working hours for so many nerds, it would have to held during the work week and promoted in such a way that it can be fully expensed to one's employer.

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  15. If we're going to do this, do it right. :) by Restil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Find a small town, clearly too small to handle hundreds of thousands of conventioners.

    Don't make any reservations, and make no effort to alert the local authorities or businesses of any such gathering. Only announce the location at the last minute (but give general area ideas so people can choose to go or not).

    Everyone bring at least one computer, and if necessary a portable generator in case massive attempts at leeching power from elsewhere fail. Wireless networks might seem convienent here, but there would be a certain charm to actually running cat 5 cable all over the place.

    It'll be the first physical slashdotting. And after witnessing such an event, it might give some perspective to what the poor sysadmins have to go through when they're the unlikely target. :)

    Of course, I'm KIDDING!!!!! This would definitely NOT put geeks in a good light. But damn it sure would be funny. :)

    -Restil

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    1. Re:If we're going to do this, do it right. :) by (void*) · · Score: 2

      That's called slashdotting a small town, physically.

    2. Re:If we're going to do this, do it right. :) by unitron · · Score: 2

      Not counting a flood of refugees in/from just about any war ever, or those religious pilgrimage things, I think Woodstock claims previous art on physical Slashdotting.

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  16. Re:Hmmm to make this work by stu_coates · · Score: 3, Funny

    4. Cowboy Neal

  17. Hey. could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The actual goatse.cx guy might show up.

  18. Tack it on another convention. by UnifiedTechs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not hold a mini convention the same weekend as a bigger convention we are lickly to be at anyways? Didn't OSDN have a party the day of the linux convention in San Fran 2 or 3 years ago? I remember something like that, well I remember alot of free booze the rest is blurry....

    Anyways hold a get together one of the days of linux world, everyone would be in town anyways.(And for some people the company picks up the tab)

  19. Re:Sure I would attend a slashdot convention by skotte · · Score: 3, Funny

    you've obviously never been to a geek convention thing. clothes in general tend to be optional.

    although you'd be better off wearing something plastic, hemp, or perhaps your home-made klingon outfit.

  20. Themes. by saintlupus · · Score: 5, Funny

    If so, what would be the theme and what talks would a convention like this have?

    1) JonKatz needs a good cock-punching.

    2) Why he needs it, cock-punching techniques for the new post-Columbine and post-9/11 world, the globalization of cock-punching, cock-punching from the middle east with a commodore 64...

    --saint

  21. No by Etyenne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Four years ago, I would have answered a resounding "Yes!". Today, I would answer an uninterested no.

    Slashdot has becomed the shadow of it's former self; it is now a little more than a news outlet for me. It was'nt always the case. It had been a real community a few years ago. Notice my UID; I have been reading Slashdot for a long time ... back when CmdrTaco was actually taking part in the discussion.

    If you want to see a real community in action, I suggest you check out Kuro5hin for the political/social stuff and ArsTechnica discussion forum for the technical stuff. These are real community in my mind; not glorified news outlet. They are not the only one; just two good examples.

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  22. Wanted: Bouncers for /. Convention by 4of12 · · Score: 2

    You'll need a draw, something like free beer and a chance to win an uber-karma account with +3 for posts.

    Also, do you have any idea of what goes on down Score: -1 and Score: 0 ? I only slum down there when I moderate.

    Let me tell you, some of those posters give me the creeps.

    I don't think I'd want to risk meeting them in person.

    You'll definitely need some bouncers at the door.

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  23. Local SOTA by texchanchan · · Score: 2

    I'd go to a local meeting of Slashdotters Older Than Average.

    1. Re:Local SOTA by dubl-u · · Score: 2

      I'd go to a local meeting of Slashdotters Older Than Average.

      That's no fun; if the age restriction is only 16 and up, we couldn't even meet at a bar.

  24. Maybe... by Telecommando · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I attend the same way I usually read Slashdot, in my underwear at 5AM with a cup of coffee in my hand?

    On second thought, maybe a virtual conference would be a better idea.

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  25. Some thoughts... by bje2 · · Score: 2
    • wow, that would be one huge sausage party...there would probably only be Kathleen Fent, and a handful of girls in attendance...

    • maybe a special VIP room for people who have hit the 50 point karma cap...

    • instead of wearing name tags, we could all wear tags with our login name (or AC), and our slashdot id...

    • maybe we get a couple of karma points just for showing up...

    • least attended event of the show: Jon Katz lecture on the post 9/11 ramifications of karma whoring...

    • the bad part though...CowboyNeal would almost certainly be a dissapointment in person....
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    1. Re:Some thoughts... by ZigMonty · · Score: 2
      maybe a special VIP room for people who have hit the 50 point karma cap...

      That'd have to be a pretty big room.

  26. Would I attend a Slashdot convention? by cjpez · · Score: 2
    I'm guessing not. Unless I happened to be in the area at the time. And it was free. And there wasn't anything better to be doing at the time, like stare at my toes.

    Honestly, I enjoy Slashdot: The Website quite a bit. I also find the idea of Slashdot: The Convention to be utterly terrifying.

  27. Yes. by bellings · · Score: 3, Funny

    I will most definitely attend.

    I trust that VA Software will reserve thousands of rooms at an expensive hotel, and reserve an expensive convention hall for the event. Also, I hope that VA Software spends tens of thousands of dollars on expensive, nearly nude booth babes, and pays for expensive and interesting guest speakers. It would be cool if there was some expensive entertainment as well -- some modern bands would be great. And I hope there's some really expensive, cool swag given away. Oh, and I hope VA Linux charters some planes as well, flying from most major cities in the US and the rest of the world.

    Uhh... this is going to be entirely free, isn't it? You see, like most of the people who read Slashdot, I'm only 15 years old, and I work at McDonalds. I don't really have any money.

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  28. Better idea... by biglig2 · · Score: 2

    ...is to get involved more in local geek-related events. Just last week I went to the UK Palm user Group meeting and had a great time. Except that for once I felt I didn't have enough gadgets on my belt... ;-)

    Head off to these, support them, and while you're there mention slashdot if you like.

    I suspect thought that a slashdot meeting in meatspace might kinda miss the point of an on-line community if you see what you mean.

    One thing though, it is sooo wierd introducing yourself with your nick instead of your real name.

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  29. You're Wrong by waldoj · · Score: 2

    How one can feel companionship from complete strangers that you have never met, will most likely never meet; and will furthermore most likely never want to associate with in real life is beyond logical comprehension.

    You must be new here. By "here," I mean "the Internet" and possibly "the world."

    Have you never been a part of a physical gathering of members of an on-line community? I've been to a half dozen since 1994, and they've been uniformly fantastic. That's the most common reaction to such events. You should try attending one. They're really great.

    -Waldo Jaquith

  30. That's a step backwards by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    See, we used to be unable to share information with and get opinions from collegues easily, so we'd all get together once a year to have a chance to interact with our peers.

    Now, there's the Internet. We get to interact with our peers on a daily basis. Slashdot is a good place to do this WRT technology news.

    Of course there are still conferences around, but most of them focus on in-depth sessions around narrow subjects. You can't do this well on the Internet, often because you're distracted, and often because the people who know are too busy to write about it. These conferences have increasingly fewer survey sessions, since the organizers know you've already read about that stuff on the Internet. You also have a networking benefit, since you get to meet others in your field face-to-face.

    So, what are the in-depth sessions going to be at a Slashdot conference? Yeah. So, that leaves you with the ability to network with other people who probably aren't in your field. (What they have in common with you are that they read news.)

    Therefore, the whole event devolves to the after-conference party. So, just do that. Have a Slashdot Party. Setup monthly parties in various locals, like the Mozilla parties or 2600 meetings. Interested people will go. But, outside of Woodstock, most people won't travel very far for a party.

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  31. I'd go. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2

    I'd like to meet some Slashers. But I was hoping it would take the form of a convention or something. (Break off into related groups. Debate, talk.) Something formal like.

    In this part of the country, a local meet would probably turn out to be kinda lame. [Central US]

    What would be even better is if it was something educational and related to my work (Solaris admin) that I could convince the company to send me to.

    Yeah, I'd definately like to do a Slash thing.

  32. Regional gatherings by Roblimo · · Score: 2

    I have always thought it would be good to have regional "Slashdot gatherings" held in low-cost hotels in low-cost places. I speak at LUGs fairly frequently, and most of the Slashdot readers I've met in person were good people, well worth knowing.

    The ideal would be one-day or two-day things, probably on Saturday only or Friday/Saturday, not too intense, all in one room, with some sort of minor door charge if we can't get corporate sponsors to pick up the tab, plus whatever the hotel we choose charges for supper for those who want to have supper as a group Friday evening.

    The schmoozing and meeting/greeting would really be the big attraction, with everything else secondary. Lots of places to sit and chat, that sort of thing. Mucho network access, preferably both wired and wireless, go for an attendance limit of 300 or fewer so it's convivial instead of showlike.

    - Robin

  33. Re:Buffalo, NY by Rosonowski · · Score: 2

    Woof? I'm in buffalo. Amherst actually...

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  34. Re:No by Peale · · Score: 2

    I, too, have a low SDID, and would agree with you. They're simply too busy counting all that VAL money.