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Greenbacks No More

Chacham writes "The Financial Times has an article about the US adding colors to some denominations of US currency. Apparently, with both size and color the same, foreigners have a hard time differenciating between the bills.I still haven't gotten used to the larger pictures. And now this? As Kermit the frog sang, It's not easy being green." The Federal Reserve has a press release. At least there's no mention of RFID tags.

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  1. Huh? by imta11 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the hell is paper money? Is that what my parents used to buy things?

    1. Re:Huh? by darkonc · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Numbers are one thing, but once you get used to distinguishing by color, you stop looking at numbers.

      Here in Canada, it's pretty easy" 5's are blue, 10's are purple, 20's are green and 50's are red. and 100's are brown. (this used to cause problem for some people when we still had 2's -- which were orange. Under sodium lights, you actually had to look at the numbers, or risk paying $100 for a $2 item).

      It's not that I have lost the ability to read number, but why??? I look at the crumpled bill that I pull from my pocket, and I can tel by the blue bits all over it that i've got a 5. No need to unfold it to find the silly number, and no need to make sure that there isn't an extra '0' after the '5'.

      If a bill falls out of my pocket in the wind, I can tell at a glance if it's worth chasing after. In a good wind, a blue $5 isn't worth trying to catch... If it's red, I'll be willing to chace that $50 for a couple of blocks.

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  2. It's about time by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can use every color in my ink cartridge.

  3. Hmmm by quantaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Treasury and Federal Reserve now changes the design of the currency every seven to 10 years to try to deter counterfeiters.

    I would think that a number of different designs circulating for a single denomination of currency would infact make it easier to get away with counterfeiting. People would be less familiar with the design of the bill and be more likely to discount inconsistencies in the design by the fact that it is a different circulation.

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  4. doh by theEdgeSMAK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now strippers can tell what I'm throwing on the table at a glance.

  5. About time, too by kafka93 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although I'm English, I've lived in the USA for a few years, on and off, and *still* find the homogeneity of the bank notes to be irritating. One shouldn't have to check twice that one isn't handing over a twenty instead of a dollar bill; besides which, it's just a *token* -- it doesn't *mean* anything, really. I say this simply because people get way too caught up on the perceived importance of things like this - the obvious example being those Europeans whose principal argument against the Euro has nothing to do with financial stability, but is instead concerned with such ridiculous notions as "tradition" and "national pride".

    But I digress. Different American bank notes *are* difficult to distinguish between, and I'm not surprised that this is a concern when it comes to the ease of counterfeiting, either.

    And if I'm rambling incoherently, it's because of staying up all night only to watch England lose. Bah.

  6. Help? by thefirelane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently, with both size and color the same, foreigners have a hard time differenciating between the bills


    The Federal Reserve announced they would also hire outside consultants from Parker Brothers.


    ---Lane

  7. The wisdom of the Simpsons by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the recent episode where The Simpsons go to Brazil, where the kidnappers just receive the ransom money to free Homer.

    Brazilian 1: "Look at all that pink and purple."
    Brazilian 2: "Our money sure is gay."

  8. Cold, Hard Sentiment by donnacha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apparently, with both size and color the same, foreigners have a hard time differenciating between the bills.
    I realize how strange that must seem to Americans but it really is true; I travel all over the world and the U.S. is the only place where I have to really think about what I'm doing, it's insanely easy to make mistakes.

    Given that money is meant to be representational, and given that the different bills represent entirely different amounts, it only makes sense to distinguish them from one another as much as possible.

    I once met someone working within the US treasury and took the opportunity to ask him why they didn't take advantage of color printing. He reckoned that it was politics more than anything else; no politician wanted to be the one to suggest changing something with which Americans identify so strongly. I guess it's a bit like the British being sentimental about the pound despite all the jobs and markets they're losing to Ireland and the other countries who've adopted the Euro.

  9. Re:About goddamn time by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The anti-counterfeit measures are basically non-existant"...

    ... except for the watermarks, microprint, iridescent markings, micro engraved printing process, blue and red fibers embedded in the linen paper, and the micro-thin plastic strip embedded in each bill.

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  10. Re:Yeah, we think highly of foreigners here. by rcw-home · · Score: 5, Funny
    Or is the next 'new math' going to be based on adding colors, instead of numbers? Yeah, you gave me two blues ($5) and a yellow ($10), so thats a blue-green ($20.)

    That would lead to the most valuable denominations having the most subtle color variations. The new colors will be based on a proven scheme most Americans are familiar with:

    $1 white
    5 pink
    10 yellow
    20 green
    50 blue
    100 gold
    500 bronze

  11. And the score is.... by nochops · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, with about 100 posts so far, I see about half from non-Americans, with legit reasons why the US should use this system, and about half from Americans, basically saying fsck the foreigners...they need to learn to read the numbers...etc.

    It speaks volumes about our (Americans') culture and attitude towards the rest of the world as a society, and yes, I'm American.

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  12. Bad idea by af_robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Considering the cost of ink cartridges i don't think it will be very profitable.

  13. Re:Well you've got to be kidding me by foobar104 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right this second, I have a pocketful of Australian and Singaporean money. (Just got back from a trip.) At a glance, I can't tell the Aussie dollars from the Singapore dollars. They're both fairly brightly colored, but they're differently colored in an inconsistent way. In other words, an Aussie $5 bill is easy to distinguish from an Aussie $10 bill, but hard to distinguish-- at a glance-- from a Singapore $5 bill.

    So it's two sides of the same coin, ha ha. It'd be a challenge to make the US dollar bills look different from one another while preventing them from looking like the bills of other countries.

  14. Re:Trouble? by ChaosDiscordSimple · · Score: 5, Funny
    Our money is pretty boring compared to "exciting" foreign money.

    That's a feature, darnit! Even with our new, more open, cleaner looking bills, US greenbacks are still the most evil looking money in the world. Black and green with dense and archaic patterns. Thanks to the slightly colored cloth stock they print on, our money starts out looking slightly grimy (crisp, but grimy). Can you picture a suitcase of Euros looking as menacing as a suitcase of US dollars? US bills demand respect. Our money reminds viewers that it is the root of all evil.

  15. Change in the infastructure by wompser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I'm all for the change. But there is something that no one has pointed out yet: The enormous cost of new capital machinery.

    Many years ago I worked for Coca-Cola, who had 1 million plus vending machines with dollar bill acceptors in South East Wisconsin. Figuring the hard costs alone of new bill validators at 20 million bucks, you can bet there are going will be some VERY strong lobbying when these proposed changes start getting discussed.

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  16. Not for foreigners by RobinH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know where you get the idea that it's deliberately for "foreigners"... I heard this story on the radio a month ago, and the story definitely mentioned it was to make counterfeiting more difficult.

    The newest Canadian bills are not only different colours, but they have braille, a special glossy maple leaf overlay, and a bunch of pressed on 'dots' which, with some difficulty, can be peeled off to prove they are not just printed on. All of these things (except, perhaps, the braille) are primarily to stop counterfeiting.

    ... and guess what: I use both Canadian and U.S. currency every day, and the different colours of Canadian money make it wayyy easier to differentiate different denominations.

    Consider this, many times, you just went to a bank machine and got $100 as five $20 bills. Then you buy a pack of gum to break one of the twenties. Later, when you go to pay for something that's $4.95, and you want to find that $5 bill you know is in your wallet, it's MUCH easier to just look for a blue piece of paper, rather than looking at the writing on each individual bill. Maybe it only saves you 5 or 10 seconds, but if you're in a line with 5 or 10 people, and each person takes 5 or 10 seconds longer, that adds up over the course of a day.

    Besides that, twice in the last two years, someone giving me change in the U.S. has tried to pass off a $1 as a $10. I noticed it, but I wonder how many times they actually succeed?

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  17. Counterfeiting, Dark Taxis, and Natioanl Image by plcurechax · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think it is a great idea, because it finally allows the US Treasury to put some decent anti-counterfeiting into their bills. I mean you think they would be embarassed to be the most successfully counterfeited currency in the world.


    Not just new hued (i.e. not bright colours, but various hues) bills but magentic inks, water-spots, metal foil sown into the fiber, various printing methods (for a tactial feel to the blind). Other countries such as Canada have introduced braille for the blind.


    The braille is also good for check your pockets at the bars before offering to buy the next round of beer. While in Britian I had my first exposure to different sized bills, and I found it useful to be able to assess at a glance what is in my wallet, and to double check the change from the taxis driver after a night out. Too often you cannot read the bills since it is dark, and taxis are pretty horrid at having burnt out interior lights.


    Of course many people will be distracted by the "national image", the real issues of harder to make a quality counterfeit it to the benefit of the US economy, and just about everyone in the US except criminals and the CIA (who have been accused of counterfeiting, but never proven).


    For those who cannot understand the tourist angle. I suspect that is a PR claim, but visitors are not only dealing with a new currency, they are often using a second, third, or fifth language, and also trying to do currency conversion to their native currency when shopping and trying to budget their trip. There are those shop keepers and tourist industry people who try to take advanage of the similiar appearance. I'm know that there has been more than a couple bait-and-switch cases of people doing much like a card trick when giving back change; to not just tourists but everyday Americians.

  18. Powers of 2 by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's go whole hog and make money in powers of 2.

    $1, $2, $4, $8, etc. denominations.

    It would make it so much easier for geeks to count, and make writing software for ATMs so much simpler.

    ;)

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  19. Re:Bad Idea: We'll lose brand recognition by ryanvm · · Score: 5, Funny

    From a marketing standpoint, the greenish color scheme has fantastic brand awareness.

    Good point - we wouldn't want people to start using competing U.S. currencies. Seriously, you sat through too many marketing classes if you think U.S. currency needs brand awareness to be valuable.