A Better Way to Enter Text On a Palmtop
DippyOz writes: "Ever wanted to speedily enter text into your palm and hate those 'look ahead' features? Dasher is a research project from Cambridge that presents an innovative way to speed up text entering by predicting and allowing you to choose from a number of choices by flying over them with your stylus (or mouse). There's Linux, Windows and PocketPC versions to download and try."
yeah i reckon
Try not making a computer with a screen that's so small and a text window that's even smaller. I can't believe these things aren't dead yet.
Palm is a technology people don't need. I used to have a Windows CE mini-laptop that the company let me use. It was cool, has 133MHz, 13 inch screen yada yada yada but I much prefer a pad and pen. You don't need to start apps up on it and you can mix images and text seemlessly. There's no electricity needed and no need to save anything as it is done as you work. Tecdhnology is supposed to make things easier but this is one area that doesn't need improvement and has suffered from these implementations. I don't even get me started on these freaks that want me to use a remote sensing pen on paper to transfer onto PC. Yuck!
So you mean the same way mobile phones do it right now?
Ok, not exactly, but the idea is the same.
The zooming in their little animated gif or whatever seems like it might be kind of tough to get used to and it goes fast!
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I only see Windows, Linux and PocketPC versions. Where's the PalmOS version???
...and I think it's quite promising, altough at the moment I still achieve higher speeds using T9 predictive text-input (on my GSM mobile phone). Whith some improvements I really see a future for it. Certainly the eye-tracking method is intresting, eg. for paralised people (instead of a stick on a helmet to press keyboard buttons).
This app is reallly weird to use - you have to try it! The words just come flowing out of it... it's kind of like speaking in tongues. Just wiggle the mouse up and down and let your mind go blank and see what comes out.
*freaky*
It takes a little getting used to, but the idea is good. Not sure about trying it on a palm though - the screen is a bit small.
looks pretty irritating to me
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I downloaded the software, tried it out, and after two minutes, I'm impressed. MUCH easier to use that I thought that it would be, It almost seems to be reading My mind, as to what I want to say...
While it could still use a bit of work, overall it is an incredible new paridgm in the way that text-entry can happen. palm-top users are going to fall in love with it's ease of use, I predict.
A more `finished' version would be nice for the desktop users, perhaps allowing it to reside in a side window tray that scrolled out when selected, and did the text entry in whatever text box has the edit focus. Add that, and it will become a permanent addition to My desktop's.
Kudos to David MacKay and his crew for creating something unique and new, and actually enhancing the user interface at the same time.
Finally! One handed typing during cybersex won't be do darned difficult! *sigh* I seriously need to get out of the house more often....
It's been used in mobile phones for years. Try it with your Nokia mobile, while you're entering a name, press #, you'll see the 'abc/ABC' to the top-left of the LCD changed. When it changed to something like '=Abc', the prediction mode is on.
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May be it's becoming very special when it's being visualized/animated, isn't it?
I was surprised when I saw the choice of languages used. Why not Java? After all, they want to make it available for many platforms and in particular handheld devices.
The concept looks interesting and they even have a Japanese version. Anyone care to comment on how useful this is for "non-western" languages? How about dyslexics, would this be an advantage or disadvangate for them?
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The Windows version is really scary to try; the letters fly by and it's not very intuitive how you select things at first -- just letting them fly by doesn't give very good feedback. It's a neat concept, but I can't say I rate it as being faster than grafitti, for instance -- especially since it apparently has a 60 second+ loading time on a Palm!
Wow, it needs a bit of getting used to, but I'm already faster with it than with graffiti and all that stuff. I only tried the windows version, did anyone try it on their handheld?
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Quite the same as T9 textinput, it's a nice idea to have multiple choices in one view to select the next part of your words / sentences, but I think the interface is a bit uncomfortable.
Well, there's also MessagEase, which I haven't yet tried on my palm (only tried the javascript demo), but from the demo of either, MessagEase looks like it works better, and can be applied to 12-key mobile phones too.
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But this feels like something Jeff 'Yak' Minter would have thought of a long time ago. Attack of the Mutant Alphabet?
This looks like a good idea, but perhaps for the disabled who can only use pointing devices, rather than for those of use who have full dexterity. Even on a PDA, I think Graffiti or typing on a keyboard template would be easier, because this interface is clearly going to take over the entire screen...
I suppose if I got used to it a bit more it could be better, but when I first saw T9 I "got it" straight away, but this just frustrated me.
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Well, I'd love a way to speedily enter text on my Palm... what a pity there's no version of this that works under PalmOS.
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Still, there's a linux version, so that's alright
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New implementations can be derived from the public research eh as published.
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If they haven't patented the consept you could make an open source program that do exactly the same thing, no reverse engineering required
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Download it and check it out on your desktop (Windows, Linux). Pretty cool. It works really well for common words, and conveniently sets up common endings for you (-tion, -ing, etc.) But, uncommon words are really tough, and punctuation is seriously lacking. Sometimes it's even hard to find the space for the end of a word. I don't really see how you could use it to edit text either, it's painful just editing the current stream as it is. It is pretty damn cool....
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Nokia offers a prediction, or a set of predictions, in a rather limited fashion. This app simply increases the surface area of more likely combinations.
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I tried to do 'Four score and hundred years ago my grandma ate a fuzzy pickle', for no real reason. Grandma appeared quite easily, while 'ate' took a bit of trouble. Fuzzy, again, came easily.
While it is both based on similar principles, the smoothflowing visual entry system is, in my mind, much superior, in terms of useability. Great stuff.
on a palmtop computer;
on a wearable computer;
it would be cool to see what would be written out during a rush hour scrum on the train if you're wearing the comp. i sense a whole new genre of literature...
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The method we (or I) ended up with was... hmmm, I don't think I can say that, actually, as the patent may still be pending. (It was a summer job, haven't kept touch.) If the patent gets accepted, it will be silly one, I'm afraid. :(
Normally, I'm against stupid patents, and hell, patents in general, but you could hear my principles flying out the window when they waved a modest sum of reward cash in front of my face. :o
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I had the most utterly difficult time entering 'hey there' ... I'd get 'hey the' and then it'd start throwing letters that weren't R at me, and while trying to surf around for that R, it just threw a bunch of garbage into my sentence. it's a neat idea, but it needs better 'prediction' skills.
realistically speaking though, wouldn't it be easier to just use a keyboard? When my pda doesn't recognize what I'm inputting, it pops up a keyboard for me to use. The advantage of a keyboard is that I always know where the letters are. There isn't any fast-paced zooming or predictive AI; it's just me knowing which keys I want to press, and where those keys are located.
I think it's faster, even if I can only 'type' one letter at a time.
Sometimes it's best to just stick with what works, in my opinion.
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I downloaded it and tried to do the old "The quick brown fox jumped over" thing and the thing couldn't handle it. A coupld of us have tried it and we can't get it to do it as quickly as a normal typist or even a graffiti user on a palm. The e-q relationship just doesn't pop up for us. Weird.
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Isn't the style of input like a fractal in a way? "Zooming" in on a single letter shows the entire alphabet in the space of that letter and so on (sometimes the letters are really small due to the softwares prediction). For the records, I coin the phrase "Fractal based input" ;-).
The problem with this over other forms of input (including types like t9) is that you have to focus on the screen all the time to see where your chosen letter appears. It would be like using a keyboard that has keys that shift locations all the time.
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This would be a great tool for freeform writing. Just start forming sentences and see what you get at the end.
Bet this would be useful to psychiatrists like the inkblot tests.
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It's amazing how quickly you can pick up the basics (unlike Graffiti and other handwriting techniques).
good lower case, poor punctuation. But it's a start of something great, I think. Plus, just letting your mouse wander generates some interesting results!
Let it run in the background, as you work at your PC, in another window. It senses your mouse movement throughout the day, and leaves you with a profound poem after a hard day at work. My current poem (after typing this slashdot message says:
rokylneatlic chehsismore. daed si luap. aftbaty never communist work abour reap. loopholebulconariat
(how it came up with "never communist work", I'll never understand! But it did!) Don't play it backwards!
What system does Steven Hawking use when entering text to his speech device? I heard that he gets pretty fast WPM rates with that, and considering that he can't move much, maybe this is something for the palm people to think about?
i've got to say...this software is scary. i'll try it, 'cause it looks like fun. But man oh man does that interface make me dizzy.
perhaps it should come with a warning about mixing with cars and machinery...
then again maybe this will help me make up for all the hallucinigens i never got when i was younger...
It is easy to use, indeed, and far original, and very intuitive (more than it seems at first sight) but i feel tired since just "writting" a few words.
My opinion is that stresses the user so much. Maybe it is may fault as I am still not used to it... a question of training?
Wow. I downloaded, and tried it.
At first it was really uncomfortable, and i didnt really know what to do with it, admittadly not having read any sort of help files, and being slightly distracted by wmcube spinning at 100% cpu load to my left, After a minute or so i could see it take wild stabs at what i was trying to say... putting words together for me and the such... kind of creepy in a neat, gadgety sort of way.
I feel like it would need some work before it can be used on a PDA (screen size and CPU being less than that of a desktop, and all)
However, it is a brilliant way of explaining how arithmetic coding of text works.
devices need large screens but devices need to be small to be 'pocket size'
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Concentrate on seperating the screen from the device, I want glasses that project the 1024x768 screen onto my eye, gimme gimme gimme
They could project a keyboard in mid air in front of you and you just tap away and a pair of gloves relates key positons to finger dabs
First time I loaded it I got this vertigo rush, I started to get a little queasy, but... wow. Once you get the hang of it it's like sky-diving through the alphabet. As you're spelling you just pick the next letter and let yourself 'fall' towards it, it's really kind of relaxing if you have an empty stomach :)
I downloaded and tried it. It's a neat approach, but I don't think it's the best way to input text... Like this, it requires too much thought. For instance, typing. Once a person gets used to typing, it is pretty much second nature. Not much thinking in terms of how to input letters. But with Dasher, you always have to be looking on the screen to see what letters are coming up. There are patterns but the patterns aren't static (I realize this is one of the strengths). Seems like it takes too much effort on the inputter's point of view to perform such an elementary task of inputting text.
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Tried this out a while ago, and I don't like it, but that's a personal preference.
/me being a fan of xstroke (full-screen handwriting recognition for the Linux ipaq), I'd love to see something like that ported, e.g. using prediction to tilt the results of the recognized character.
The concept is a little weird, because it varies somewhat from the usual input methods where the computer just waits passively until you've (clicked a button|pressed a key|made a stroke).
There are, however, a number of very intriguing ideas in this one, especially the prediction part.
As I see it, these two concepts on palm-device input (you can forget about keyboards at that size) are opposites:
Handwriting recognition builds on an activity the human operator is very familiar with, but the computers still have a lot to catch up to before they have even a fraction of the handwriting recognition powers of almost every human, especially in the area of context (current recognition is by the letter, not by the word).
Dasher, on the other hand, uses a very unusual and new method, but allows for great precision because it does what computers can do very well - choose from clearly demarked options.
In the end, maybe a combination will emerge, e.g. handwriting recognition that if it isn't quite sure will show the characters it things you could've meant somewhere on the screen and allows you to choose the right one with a quick stroke in the right direction.
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While admittedly, I haven't tried it, the fact that it seems purely dynamic is a litte daunting. Anything that zooms on mouse-over usually doesn't get the highest of usability ratings because the target area becomes less predictable. This is precisely why the Aqua Dock received many a complaint.
/harder/ to access is kinda scary. It should be written in the positive, that more common letters should be /easier/ to access.
This also made me think of that Fish Eye interface for browsing menus (where the text closest to the cursor is the biggest; farthest, smallest)... Anyway, I think that in it's zoomy nature, it leaves little time for people to actually think... And what about unusual character strings, or words not in the normal lexicon (abbreviations, acronyms...)? How easy is it to access the letter X right after Z?
PS - Their description of rarely used letters being
for those of us who don't spell so good... :
maybe it would be good for compiling slashdot stories...
Did anyone try to let the tool produce its own sentences without moving the mouse. The result can be quite interesting. Here is a real example:
ive off ajoritaquely eanwhelms to aeuserebral imagined.ius.zzlikestone could not words tired is wife. tellk you were
I wonder.... Do you think that it's more natural for us to see letters coming from the right and moving left, but Arabs would find it more comfortable for letters to come from the left, and Japanese for characters to come from the bottom?
it takes some gettin used to but after a few goes you really get into the hang of it, i dont use palms myself but i can see this being quite useful, the only real problem is screen size
i got used to it by doing 'I like cheese' and 'My name is Antony', if you haven't already i recommend downloading it to try, its a kool way ot use up a spare 5 mins!
The problem here is that this requires total concentration: no looking up while entering data. On a pen-based computer with graffiti or transcriber, one often doesn't need to look down at the screen all the time in order to write.
As an added bonus, it makes me quite nauseated. Immersive writing. Uuuuuhhhh.
Now where was that thread on preventing motion sickness from intense immersive gaming?!?
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I'm nowhere near fully literate in Japanese, but my guess is that this would be great. Once you've started writing a character (especially from within a limited list like the 2000-kanji list in Japan) the universe of possible completions is much smaller than the full list; add adaptive frequency tabling and this looks pretty damn cool for it.
Then again, I've never used _any_ form of completion with drawing Chinese chraacters (there's the simple vertical list you get when converting from kana to kanji), so even just a monospaced list would be a win...and I'd be slow in that event anyway.
in a car on a flat plane of letters, or perhaps as a skiing game with the letters as flags. maybe the bigger rectangles could be downhill?
Basically they use a markov chain which has in it the probabilities that one letter will appear after another. It's very similar to the disassociated press generators you can find out there.
For example, here is one I wrote which generates new random words based on the probabilities of one pair of letters appearing after another pair. I used pairs because it generates more English-like words.
It was "taught" using the contents of /usr/dict/words and written in Perl.
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i played with the demo for a while and was surprised at how easy it was to learn. i see this having success in a few niche areas, but it will never catch on for general use for one main reason: it demands your visual attention. people won't want to stare at the screen while they're entering text. once you've practiced with a keyboard, character input on a PDA, or buttons on a cell phone you don't need to watch the input device or the sceen while you enter text. this leaves you free to watch the presenter, look at the paper you're transcribing, watch the road, etc...
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Reminds me of the Quikwriting project. I tried Dasher out, but found that it needs some work on predicting certain words.
"If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"
...the predictive text input would pop up "Windows" everytime you started to write L-i-n-u... But seriously, the maker of the software could influence the way we communicate by suggesting some words over others, and once everyone is using the software they could insert new words once in a while... how about advertisers paying for their brand name to pop-up in the middle of your sentence!
Try aiming for the same letter until it repeats, you get a semi-wormhole easter egg!!
Quite often, I plan for tomorrow in the afternoon. I write notes of things that I have to do, double check appointments, etc, all on my Palm. Also quite often in the summer, I take long lunches at the local pub. I doubt that I would be able to combine my affection for lengthy pub lunches and my habbit of doing most of my input on the Palm in the afternoon with that text system whirling by.
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A lot of people seem impressed (I wonder if they've even tried to use it), I have a contrary opinion.
Whilst I found the area of letter an interesting idea. I found it extremely difficult / practically impossible to use in practice. It's just a appears chaotic jumble of letters, it is difficult to find the correct letter, I think a better approach would be to it use letter frequency to govern the letter placement, with common letters being closer to the centre line.
I think the random jumble of colours made me feel dizzy, though this may be fixable by using a grey scale.
It is too easy to lose letters over the edge, if the letters moved around the edge to produce a curve, may be a better approach.
There is no way to get special characters or upper case letters, though this problem could be fixed by clicking the mouse or touching the screen to toggle case.
For something coming out of Cambridge University I wouldn't expect them to mutilate the spelling of "Windows".
We wouldn't like it if people wrote "Linsux" so why write MicroShaft, M$ or any other variants out there?
It doesn't help the cause in the slightest however "amusing" you might think it is. It just makes you look like a 14 year old with bad spelling. In fact, it'll probably do more harm than good.
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...I'll wait for the Dancer or maybe the Prancer project. Of course these will be followed up by the launch of the Vixen, Comet, and Cupid projects. Though the Donnor project was nothing more than a party, the Blitzen should prove to be innovative. Of course, the Rudolph project will help shed more light on the issue.
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Very cool concept. I like how it feels like I'm falling into what I was thinking. However, I'm pretty sure I'm faster on my Zaurus thumbboard than I would be with this sort of hunt-and-slide interface.
It's fun to just click once to get it started, and then let it say what it wants to... I just did it, and it spelled out "pox today for the king."
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I think this is one of the few areas where software patents actually make sence (I assume the people who made this have got some kind of patent for it). Unlike a lot of examples of software patents this is 'non obvious' and (as far as I know) is not a simple extention of someone else's work. Perhaps this could be used as a standard to judge other software patents: If something does not achive this standard of idea it should not be patentable.
well, I love it. I find it quite relaxing and almost effortless. The important thing to remember is if the letter you are looking for is off the top or bottom zooming out and then back in will find it faster. In fact, I just typed this whole post in it. The only thing it really needs is more punctuation. Also I use a rollerball which makes it much easier.
Sharp's Linux-based handheld already does something similar. While you are writing (in normal handwriting, not Grafiti), a selection of possible words appears directly above the entry area. If the word appears there, you simply click on it and move on to the next word. Very cool. Very slick.
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Remember this file explorer with the / in the middle and the subdirectories around arranged as a circle, and you drag subtrees near the center to expand them? :-(
This is a very similar concept, I think...
Arrrgh, I can't find it anymore
Anyone knows where to find it?...
Wow! I'm telling you this tool is powerful. Being a non-english I tried to start from scratch by reseting the dictionary. In a few sentences I already had a lot of letters well predicted.
Man I love when people are so smart!
Yet I agree with a lot of you guys. This will probably be better for unable people but I would love to use it on my Palm.
My cell phone uses predictive text and it has yet to ever actually predict the correct words, rendering itself fairly useless to me.
For those who've studied this and might have read the paper that goes with that interface, it is nothing more than just manually arithmetic encoding a word. While I call it simple, it needs to be understood that the most useful and best inventions are often those that, upon reflection, seem obvious.
There might not be a future for this input method in conventional PDAs, but I've a feeling that wearable computers might make very good use of it. This includes futuristic Minority Report and Johnny Mnemonic type interfaces.
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I've been testing the thing for a few minutes, and I think it's impressive (though I was quite skeptical in the beginning).
What's more, I noticed it really makes one memorize the order of the letters in the alphabet!!
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Oh, just what I want to help speed my text entry on a PDA - make me move my fingers off the keyboard, grab a stylus and select something on the screen. Yeah, that helps thing a lot. Not.
What? Your PDA doesn't have a keyboard? Too bad. After owning a Sharp Zaurus and a RIM pager, I believe there is no reason why a PDA cannot have a Zaurus/RIM type keyboard - it is clearly the fastest way to enter text into a PDA.
Remember this file explorer with the / in the middle and the subdirectories around arranged as a circle, and you drag subtrees near the center to expand them?
I think you mean this. Although I thought it was a load of crap...
Is that the best you can do?
Straight from the mouth of Dasher (clicking on the screen, and leaving mouse alone for a while)....
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Hmm... don't think we have to worry about computers taking over just yet...
There are a number of solutions out today that allow for faster input on a PDA and none of them are near as popular as graffiti or the on screen keyboard. Users don't want to learn a new paradigm for entry, even graffiti is too much for some users. They want to enter normal text and/or use a keyboard. That's it. They don't want to use FITALY, that oddball french circle thing out a while ago (whose name I clearly forget since the product was also so forgettable), etc.
Not to mention, for this to be effective a large amount of screen real estate is required. The most effective data entry solutions for a PDA require little to no real estate. Check out how the new Clie's make great use of limited real estate or Jot and transcriber, both take up no real estate. a much better solution then this zooming around stuff.
It appears that Palm, despite being the brand name for one specific line of hardware and a specific OS, has become like Kleenex... a term used to describe any item in the category?
When's the last time you asked for a facial tissue?
The animated picture on the web site makes it easy to use with a mouse but what happens when using a pen-based computer? It appears that right-handed users would be at a disadvantage using left-to-right languages like English because their writing hand would obscure the subsequent choices. Left-handed users would be disadvantaged if using it for writing a right-to-left language such as Hebrew.
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What other alternatives to Graffiti are there? Graffiti works pretty well, but it's pretty slow and laborious for any serious text entry. I checked the website for this Dasher but I think this system would give me a headache after a while! There must be a system faster/more accurate than graffiti that doesn't cause you to go blind. I mainly use my palm for shopping to-do lists. I use my computer to enter more lengthy documents.
Speaking of which, how does everyone like the keyboards for palm? The two models I'm aware of are the itsy-bitsy keyboard about the same width as the Palm, and the larger keyboard that folds into thirds. I'm considering buying one but I don't know which would be better. Anyone know of the pros/cons of each? Thanks!!!
Seen this all before here about 2 months ago, I just can't find the link through the search engine.
Nice try for a new story but this is old news.
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For entry on the Palm, I have found that TealScript is the best--rather than making you conform to a user independent script, you enter all the different ways that you write a character and it then matches the input against _your_ standard handwriting.
I can print as fast on the Palm as I can on paper.
I had a plan once to create a page that generated Jon Katz articles (fed by the existing pool of articles). Would be interesting to see how it turned out :)
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I tried to write some words in a different language for which there was no dictionary and after 3 words it guessed that I was not using english and gave me equal probabilities for each letter.
Pretty amazing.
just down loaded it and typed this post with it
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I picked up Gregg shorthand as a graduate economics student with too much time on my hands. Whatever else you might say about it, shorthand is a technology for writing at 250+ wpm.
It would be an amazing combination, a PIM (or maybe one of those newfangled M$ tablets) that could transcribe shorthand. Gregg is phonetic, and many strokes have alternative possible meanings, requiring human intelligence. I imagine machine intelligence, these days, would be up to the challenge.
Just a fantasy of mine,which I doubt many would share.
I wonder if this would be easier or faster for Stephen Hawking to use compared to his current system.
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HELPERS: Electronic communities often have a section at the TV and not only because of some shared interest - in this case a complex, sometimes highly technical range of bugaboos, from cultural imperialism to sweatshops to environmental destruction. But others (like me) see it as the best weblogs I found was Peter Merholz's peterme.com. "How freakin? cool is this?" he asks in the village. Cafes had popped up all over, with impromptu dances and parties everywhere. Junis's e-mail -- routed to Kabul, then Islamabad, then London -- was a little surprised last week to receive a forwarded e-mail from Junis, who lives in impoverished parts of the undeveloped world and many political activists, they are the most frequently cited reason newcomers flee, veterans tire and advertisers move on to more hospitable environments.
TECHS (worker bees and ants): The people in any community for whom the construction of the destruction of communities, they are distinctly unwelcome. Anti-Americanism has become widely accepted, even epidemic. In his book George Soros on Globalization, the billionnaire asks for institutional reforms to address some of the United States, where contemporary notions of globalism -- as Soros concedes -- and widely foreseen -- political consequences of the Information Sciences and Technology Laboratory at the moment, perhaps because it has been hijacked so completely by the voice of its members have reasons for avoiding too much hostility. They have continuing, powerful, very personal ties to one another.
People aren't attacking human beings they know, but disembodied voices and messages. From the beginning, the Net and the have-nots are increasingly enraged at the moment, perhaps because it is uncertain whether people will know the role of the world. Many don't believe meetings should even be held by governmental officials to discuss globalism. Soros argues that the networked global economy is forcing market values into areas where they don't properly or historically belong, from copyright to publishing to medicine to the law. These intrusions also occur in foreign cultures where they are distinctly unwelcome.
Anti-Americanism has become a staple of life in many parts of Europe, and even more virulently elsewhere, where the United States, where contemporary notions of globalism -- capital is free but social concerns are underfunded -- represents a distortion of globalization, the divisions between the tech and non-tech worlds are widening, and the former Soviet Union. The world, it turns out, really is porous now. Technology and information will squeeze through every closed nook and crevice. The Taliban worked to create the antithesis of the excluded public to post'There might be private newsgroups for people who are generally inaccessible - for example, major financiers, philanthropists, leaders of powerful companies, or even scientists." The recent surge in classy, well-designed, intensely-linked weblogs - almost all, essentially reflecting the interests and tastes of their home. http://www.eskimo.com/~rstarr/poormfa/markov.html
Probably a lot more readable.
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Aim for the big areas and this is what you get.
They let people use it and send people subliminal messages by just hinting what's "right" by varying the size of the areas!
Can you imagine the Govt. RIAA, MPAA, advertizing through this.
FRA: STFU GTFO
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- If you find Dasher "scary", or "it is writing things I don't want to write", please read the tips for novices and the three page explanation.
It's like learning to drive a car. Don't speed; Don't drive forward until you know where you want to go; Go slowly for a minute or two and you'll soon get better.
- According to his assistant, Stephen Hawking can write at 6-9 words per minute with his present system, on a good day. With Dasher, we can write at 20 or 35 words per minute, depending on whether we use eyetracker or mouse.
- If anyone wants a job in Cambridge working on Dasher, we are looking to recruit a good programmer to clean up the rough edges.
Have fun! - DavidI'm surprised more people aren't using the fitaly keyboard (www.fitaly.com).
It's a keyboard optimized for one finger or stylus input. It took me a few days to get good with it, but it's pretty fast once I get on a roll. Freqent letter combinations are grouped together and I rarely have to move around much to type a word.
After using a Newton, Grafiti, QWERTY and Pocket PC recognition this is the only stylus input solution I've found that's actually faster than writing on paper. I took notes on 90 minute panel discussion and was actually able to jot down most of what was said (with a lot of help from word completion).
Disclaimer: I don't work for them, just really find this useful.
Looks interesting; however, I can't see how this can be that useful. If you're really serious about PDA input, get yourself a Stowaway keyboard. Full-size, good key travel, works like a dream, and can fold up into a very compact unit.
Pro: this text entry method is silent (as silent as your mouse is, anyway), and purely silent if you use eye tracing. I wish I could try it with an eye tracer, I imagine it would become almost like just thinking what you want to type, like natural speech or expert typists, but without the dexterity of manually pressing the correct keys.
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I used the trial version for a little while until it expired. I have to say it was faster than the handwriting recognition or tiny virtual keyboard, even though I didn't use it enough to get accustomed to the layout. The keys are layed out so you move your stylus as little as possible, with more often used keys in the middle:
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QJUMPX
They sell the software and templates (required for PalmOS) here.
I'd buy it if I used my palmtop more frequently for data entry.
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The original poster clearly referred to full size keyboards. Since he's been using them for 15 years it's doubtful he meant to refer to PDAs.
Anybody besides me thinks this thing acts like a Ouiji Board when you play with it? Strange...
Maybe this will help write those e-mails you don't want to get around to writing... Just play with the mouse some until it spews out a bunch of jumbo, then click send.
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I suggest to extend the idea of Dasher to keyboards. Change the keyboard mapping depending on the frequency of letters in the alphabet and the text you typed.:-) This is just like in Windows 2000 Start->Program menus that are constantly changing to bring the most often used applications to the top of the list. Every time I open such menu the sequence is different. That is an example of idiotic design.
This is dissociated press on steroids..
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It'd be interesting to feed Katz articles (or Slashdot articles in general) to Columbia Newsblaster and see how it summarized them...
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I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
If you go in zen mode, it is kinda of like a oujii board.
/usr/dict/words, since I got "white rabbit" and "mock turtle" after just a few seconds of "using the force".
Also, you can see what text was used to train it. It is not just
I find that it works much faster if, before I start, I tell it to add training files (File menu). I've been using
I find it completely intuitive. But then, I had this same idea six or eight years ago. I wondered how well it worked. I'm glad someone coded it so I can try it.
Things that I don't like about it: :) :)
- I miss spaces and silent 'h's and so on because those are what I don't really think about, and you keep looking at what you are going to type. It's the reverse of blind typing.
- No easy way to fix that missing space after you dashed 20 letters farther.
- When I now click on my application menu, I go dashing like crazy to the app I want, which makes me miss the right app
- I think it will use severely more battery power than the regular input ways because of all the screen updating and memory moving involved.
For the rest, i totally love it. Great stuff!