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Mapping the Spam

demaria writes "The folks at cluelessmailers.org have made a map of spam. It shows the relationships among spammers and other entities (legitimate or not), including organizations that track spam, advertises with, shares addresses, emails through, and all sorts of other data. I can't imagine how hard it was to put this together, it looks like a giant circuit design layout, but shows just how big and interwoven the spam problem is."

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  1. Map of Spam by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The country of spam is surrounded by the "White Gelatin Coast", it is divided into various sovereign mystery meat nations. How this country was formed is unknown and best left a mystery.

  2. When I first read the story title... by dmarien · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got this sick feeling of joy, and the hairs on the back of my stood up... Maps to the companies which send out spam?

    I'm driving to each and every one of em, and hurling bricks through their windows...

    errr wait...

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    1. Re:When I first read the story title... by Phrogman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Place a note on each brick stating "This is not an unsolicited brick, according to US Statue..."

      :D

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  3. Where's the Asian spammers? by tshoppa · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's a fascinating site, a really cool map.

    But where are all the Asian spammers? I'd guesstimate that I get 30 or 40 foreign-language spams apparently from Taiwan, Malaysia, and India every day. It's more than half of all the spam I get now.

    1. Re:Where's the Asian spammers? by CMBob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, I had to start somewhere...

      Like the Map says, it's by no means a complete picture. I just started with one email, then another, and began finding connections.

      Asian stuff generally gets nuked immediately; I rarely even bother reporting it anymore.

      *sigh*

      ...Bob

      Bob West
      Clueless Mailers Webmaster

  4. attention script kiddies, hackers, crackers, etc by paradesign · · Score: 5, Funny
    alright men (or otherwise) heres the battleplan,
    you have the map,
    weve located the enemy,
    now take them out!

    do it for the good of the net, and may the Force be with you.

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  5. Re:Good job /.! by cetan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I'm happy to give up some bandwidth for these guys, it's a cool map. Here's a mirror.

    http://www.cetan.com/mirrors/spammap.html

    No need to mod me up, I'm not a karma whore.

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  6. It's a palindrome by squarefish · · Score: 5, Funny

    spam maps

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  7. Re:Good job /.! by DustMagnet · · Score: 5, Informative
    So why didn't you provide a link like this overview or like this smaller version or even a google cache.

    It seems to me, that you comment is really extra lame.

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  8. Thanks! by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I forwarded it to all my coworkers, plus a few people that I don't know, but I have their email address. ;)

  9. Re:Spam problem by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Informative
    Claude Shannon proved decades ago that noise is inevitable in communications.

    He did no such thing. Shannon's law demonstrates that the information bearing capacity of a communication line is limited by the signal to noise ratio.

    It is quite amusing to see how such basic observations are transmorgaphied by the game of Internet chinese whispers.

    Spam will be addressed as a problem as soon as the pain barrier becomes high enough. With PKI it is possible to identify an email sender by means of a digital signature. The current problem being that there is no good way to locate public keys bound to email addresses. There is a lot of good work going on in this area, in particular the W3C XKMS group recently discussed a working draft that describes a mechanism for accessing public keys via DNS SRC records.

    So under this system what would happen is that when you get email from them the email client would scan your address book to see if they were on your approved sender's list. This would probably include the individuals you know (Cmdr. Taco etc.) and also whole domains (ai.mit.edu) you might trust. if the mail is not in the list it goes into the 'low priority' pile.

    There are email clients that do this at the moment but the spammers are using counter measures, such as scanning email list archives and sending out SPAM with fake sender addresses taken from the archive. With PKI and a means of determining whether the person actually has a public key or not this type of filtering becomes much more robust. Incidentally the mechanism does not require S/MIME to work, it can also be used with PGP.

    To deploy the solution all we need to do is to persuade email client writers to support XKMS register and locate functions and ISPs to provide XKMS services along with their existing SMTP server. Oh yes and finish the XKMS spec I guess.

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  10. Brilliant! Hacktivism! by toupsie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree. Instead of pinging and scanning my servers 24/7, go after the real assholes of the Internet. Script Kiddies, you have the tools, you have the time, you have the disregard for the law, do something worthwhile for a change.

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  11. Re:Spam problem by Zathrus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is no way to "fix the spam problem".

    There certainly isn't if you're fatalistic and don't look for solutions.

    Claude Shannon proved decades ago that noise is inevitable in communications

    Ignoring the abundant misunderstanding of Shannon's research (hey, go read here and you'll already know more thant he poster), to call spam noise on the data network is an amazing stretch. Spam is not noise. Spam is data. If you took the spam off the network some other crap that nobody wanted wouldn't magically fill the spot.

    I also deeply question your off-the-cuff nlogn value for spam. Let's just take my Hotmail account as an example. It receives roughly 200 spam emails a day. They average 8k each. So that's 1.6MB of spam per day per user. Now, there's 118 million Hotmail accounts. Assume that a mere 1% of them get this much spam. That's 1,888,000 MB of spam. Daily. To Hotmail alone. That's nearly 2 terabytes of capacity. Daily .

    Now lets start throwing in Yahoo! mail, AltaVista mail, juno, excite, etc. etc. etc. and start counting numbers. It's scary. Very, very scary.

    If anyone can actually provide real numbers for how much bandwidth is consumed by spam, please do. I did a Google search a couple weeks ago and came up empty. Lots of sites referring to it consuming "great amounts of bandwidth", but no hard numbers.