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P2P Streaming Radio
sonicsft writes "RIAA, CARP, and streaming internet radio, oh my. Well these guys may have found a solution. With the tag line, pirate radio for the digital age, they've released a peer to peer streaming radio solution and claim that it is untracable/closable by the RIAA."
From what I've seen, this has potential. It's simply too buggy to be useful at the moment, though. It'd be nice if it was open-source, too. This guy is just setting himself up to be sued by the RIAA if this takes off...
Someone is purposely crashing the network..if you start it up and click on stations, the streamer program will crash.
They're sending bad data as new station hosts. Hope he fixes this soon.
NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_Y 93;m¥i#½Eúq" 962;8où& #8745;½n-fäMå'
NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_Y 93;m¥i#½Eúq" 962;8où& #8745;½n-fKå'
NEW STATION: ' ÷8çu_Y 93;m¥i#½Eúq" 962;8où& #8745;½n-fIå'
NEW STATION: 'çlH]rèX╢ ; oíQe1\KÇf:za¥G;~& #9532;3ïQc|ï:'
Check out OPENdj.
It is my vision of this guys idea - but I have had opendj running from over a year ago.
OPENdj's license is mostly Apache-ish, with some subprojects GPL'd due to GPL dependencies.
- jonathan.
Check out OPENdj, my rendition of an open source, UNIX-based distributed streamer. It is very full featured and has been operating on http://opendj.com/ for over a year.
It is open source software, available for anyone to download, play with, and use.
Check it out and let me know what you think.
- jonathan.
How long before an RIAA rep knocks on his door?
The first obvious problem is that by connecting to a number of servers, I don't even need a spanning tree attack to trace the source of the broadcast; I can do it all with the latency differential, to find the "root" node.
The second obvious problem is that you can't find a broadcast source unless it's advertised, and once it's advertised, it can be found.
The third obvious problem is that, even if you solve the second obvious problem using a distribguted naming service and... for lack of a better name for it... "AntiBGP", you still have the problem of being able to use differential to find the source of the inital advertisement.
The fourth obvious problem is that you can find the source through traffic analysis: it's the one without an equal number of packets in and out.
Something like this can only ever be effective with a distributed flood-fill model, where you can trust your nearest neighbor, or your nearest neighbor doesn't actually know what he has. Effectively, this means that you have to go to a store-and-forward model, use hard crypto on the interconnects, and then generate bogus traffic to avoid analysis.
At that point, you would have to find a legitimate an legal use for the network before deploying it, or you are minimally an accessory before the fact and/or involved in a conspiracy to commit. If they can point at your node in the network and prove intent, then you are screwed.
"BlackNet" is really unsuitable for streaming data.
-- Terry
trying to evade thier lawers with p2p schemes and the like is not the answer. while you think you may be soving this problem, your only giving them a reason to call you a pirate(so they have an excuse to buy laws) AND promoting thier artists at the same time! its a win/win for them.
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if you really want to know why CDs cost so much, its nothing more than supply and demand. its becasue people pay that much. if no one pays that much, theyll stop charging that much (after blaming every computer user for piracy, thanks to napster)
these assholes have money and power because we gave it to them. if we dont give them money, then they cant hire lobyyists or buy themselves senators.
STOP SUPPORTING THEM!
its that simple.if we continue to support them, they will continue to try to controll our lives in the intrest of thier profit and to try to make it harder for (non manufactured) artists that they cant control (becase every independant band gets money, and more importantly, mindshare that could instead go to them)
dont support muscians who are with the RIAA. its not hard, many musicans are not with them. there are many lables that have nothing to do with the RIAA. if musicans you like are with them, write to them. if enough people do, they will notice.
heres ia a list of RIAA labels.
http://www.riaa.org/About-Members-1.cfm
ive been boycotting the RIAA(and MPAA) for years now and i dont feel like im missing much. i still enjoy clubs and concerts, and i still buy CDs. (without worrying that they will break my computer) i know im not denting thier profits, but more importanly i know im not helping them either. i hope that if enough people realize what they are doing and spread the word, they will either change or no longer have the power they do.
if you are a musician thinking of signing on with an RIAA lable, follow the url below, and keep in mind you wont get any play on internet radio stations.
http://www.therecordindustry.com/courtney_artis
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I'm not selling Streamer. :-)...but please don't everyone do their own versions yet. I want to implement all my ideas more first.
I'm trying to sell my game 'Spheres of Chaos', but no-one is buying it anymore. Probably those nice crackers, mistaking me for rich uncle Bill.
p.s. Source uploaded
I downloaded both the "streamer.zip" and the "streamer_source.zip" files which have links on the page.
streamer.exe is a console program that handles the network connections, and also is a basic web server interface, so you connect to your localhost IP (127.0.0.1) to the streamer port (8464).
I downloaded the Oddcast DSP plug-in for Winamp, and it seems to work ok.
This could easily be ported to *nix and other platforms. However, when compiling the Visual Studio project I get:
fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'IAINLIB.h': No such file or directory
The author's e-mail account is also "IAIN", so I assume this is his own library of utility routines. I tried to work around it, and it appears this header has error handling and some necessary typedef declarations.
I wish the author would share these files at SourceForge.net to provide a forum for more discussion and easier distribution via FTP or CVS.
I would be an interested developer, and would contribute to this project in some way.
Suncoast Linux - Sarasota, FL