The difference in how customers are being treated could be due to the severity of the issue, though. Samsung has never been highly rated in terms of customer service, but having phone batteries catch fire/explode on people requires a company to step up if they want any chance at salvaging their reputation.
VR still seems like a gimmick to me. Like waggle controls and the Kinect before it, people will inevitably prefer sit-down gaming in the long run, and I'm pretty sure VR will revert to merely simulating a 50"+ screen by strapping it to your face.
To be fair to Apple, they've yet to have a phone routinely catch fire and/or explode on people. Compare to Samsung, who initially tried to ignore the fact that replacement phones from their recall were also exploding, and one of their employees accidentally sent an internal SMS to a person who was calling support to report his phone exploding with the following text:
"Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will matter, or we just let him do what he keeps threatening to do and see if he does it."
Comparing the response of a company's phone bending versus another company's phones exploding is reaching.
You were doing fine until you said "sell"; you (nor Psystar) are allowed to distribute their software without permission.
Note that while you never said you would install OS X on the machines before selling it, this is exactly what Psystar is doing. And it will probably be where they fall legally.
Yes, I've heard of the kernel. Have you ever heard of the applications, frameworks, and interface that sit on top of the kernel that actually make the whole thing work?
I think they could do wonders if they had promotions where, for example, if you buy Metroid Prime 3, you'd get Super Metroid and the original Metroid free (or at least at a discount).
They could always figure "Super Metroid will be purchased anyways, we'll just charge full price." But if they want to reach those casual gamers who have never played a 2D game before, it might be a nice offer.
It is illegal, however, as many posters have pointed out already, to use your monopoly in one market to force your product onto consumers in another market.
Jak & Daxter, Rachet & Clank, Shadow of the Colossus, and Gran Turismo are either first or second party games.
You bring up third party games that suck on the Cube, yet True Crime, King Kong, football ports, Judge Dredd, Army Men, and wrestling games make up quite a bit of Sony's third party support. Was your point to show that Nintendo also has crappy third party support? My point was that third party support means nothing of it churns out shitty games, something you're argument seems to support, because you were using such titles to discredit the GC's third party lineup. Thanks.
"The fact of the matter is that the percentage of crappy games on the Gamecube is equivalent to the percentage of crappy games on the Playstation 2. The only difference is that the PS2 has 30 times the number of games choose from. Are there more crappy games? Sure! But there are also more good ones. It doesn't mean that Pikmin 2 doesn't kick ass."
You're stating it is a fact, but rather it is an opinion of your own. Let's not forget my original post only stated my belief that "third party support means nothing if [most of the games third parties churn out suck, or are cheap ripoffs of better games]." You seem to have taken that as an attack on your favorite system, and have responded with inaccurate statements (not knowing your first and second party games from your third party games) and supporting my claim by listing crappy third party support for the Cube, which leads to my main opinion: the Cube doesn't need "huge" third party support, so long as it receives its share of Viewtiful Joe and RE4 quality third party releases.
"Rose Colored Glasses Adventure 17" huh? I suggest you play "Know Your Gaming Industry 42"
Massive third party support is nothing if that third party support churns out:
Generic GTA Ripoff 2: Cruise Control, FPS Already on PC but with Worse Controls, Dynasty Warriors Who Press Two Buttons for Three Hours, Random Racing Game that is Totally 'Street' Dub Edition, The Guy Game That Sucks But At Least It Isn't 'Kiddie' Because of Boobs, and BMXXX Kiddie Games Suck You're Totally Mature Playing This Game Trying to Make a Dog Shit.
1. OS X is UNIX-based, so we'll install a UNIX-based OS on the Gateway instead of XP Pro. One of my favorites is SuSE, and you can download it for the cost of one DVD-R/DL or five CD-Rs.
You'll still pay for Windows XP, whether or not you install something else on that machine.
Now, since we're clear I am not assuming it will happen, because I used the conditional "if" rather than the confirming "when," can I get an answer?
If anybody is assuming anything, it is YOU that is assuming such events could never, ever happen. Don't say people's arguments are based on assumptions when your counter-arguments are assumptions themselves (the government is right, they will never abuse their powers, etc).
You make the mistake in assuming that a government can never, ever become an oppressive regime. Like I said, what if the higher-ups ever change the definition of who a "suspected terrorist" is, from someone who explodes bombs into someone who goes against government policy? Please give me an answer to this scenario, or I'll assume you're trolling and have no more use of this discussion.
It might be a huge leap to us, but, give the government more powers like this in the future, and such a leap might not seem that large for later generations of Americans. I never said anything about encrypting conversations to mom - I only state that I shouldn't have to, in order to protect my privacy, unless they go through the system, including getting a warrant, a Constitutional Right I have as a citizen, in order to spy on me. By selectively going against the Constitution, they are falling into the terrorists' ideals - to take away our freedom. And people like you are allowing it.
The founding fathers believed that any government with too much power will abuse it one day. It might not be today, or in our life time, but at least concede that such an event could happen, no matter the "probability" you would assign it.
Look, let's forget about me thinking that the government would ever want to spy on me, and focus on the example - do you think the government should have the power to spy on important figures of protest, potentially in order to quell future protest attempts? What happens when the definition of the word "terrorist" changes to "anybody who does not agree with policy"?
It isn't about arrogance - it is about stopping a potentially oppressive regime from ever occurring for future generations of Americans. The government may or may not have good intentions now, but selective judgement of their actions, no matter the intention, can lead to a dangerous situation in the future. Just look at 1930s Germany.
this is what im talking about when i say arrogant. they are not even going to notice you. it's the equivalent of refusing to move from your bus seat when there is nobody on the bus but you and nobody asked you to move.
Note the example stated that you were a WELL KNOWN voice, meaning the government would indeed notice you, and would be watching you, since you are well known publicly. You have some weird notions of what "arrogant" means. Your above analogy doesn't even fit anywhere near this discussion, and I suddenly have the feeling that you're trolling. It isn't a case of the improbability of everybody in the US being spied on - but certainly you know that the government can spy on one person pretty easily, especially if they have been vocal against the state. And that, no matter how "arrogant" you might find it to be, is wrong. Do you agree?
as i previously stated, i am not afraid of the government knowing but corperations and i guess you can lump scam artists in there. i wouldnt mind if there was a government database of all my calls. as for online, if anyone can access it, their are plenty of unethical people willing to abuse it without the limitations that the government has on it to limit it's use. as for the emails, work emails are kept internal to protect the corperation from being ripped off by outsiders, not the government. if you hadn't noticed, their already is a requirement to retain all business emails for (i think) two years so the whole enron bit does repeat. so if the government wants that information, they can have it because i know there are limitations to what they can do with it. also, there is some site that posts a bunch of internal company memos already and nobody has a problem with that. seriously though, if you wanted to see my personal emails, i really wouldnt care, but that would take a bunch of time to process into screenshots. as mentioned previously, i think there are hateful people that would sign me up for spam to smite me or something. in short, i trust what the goverment does with information, but not people or corperations.
So you're saying that someone who works for the government is 100% trustworthy? Because you think they'd stop at such limitations? Even though recent news headlines points to illegal spying on citizens? Gull-i-ble.
It is not about whether or not he is paranoid that the government will be spying on him, specifically - imagine if such activities are continued to allowed, and the government becomes less friendly in the future. Imagine being a well known voice against the current leader's policies, and trying to start protests, like actions of civil disobedience that Martin Luther King led, in order to change public policy that the current leader REALLY liked. Such protests would be over before they began, and your voice to speak out against the government would be squashed.
I would rather such a scenario never even be remotely possible and be considered a completely paranoid nut job than to allow it to creep up on us by turning a blind eye. Giving up information the parent asked you to give isn't such a feat anyways, as the government probably knows most of this already. How about you allow us to tap into your phone lines, though? We could keep the recordings in an online database even, without you being able to delete them. How about your emails, including work-related emails (can never be TOO safe, you know)? Post them online for us, uncensored of course. You can even use screenshots of the emails, so online spammers won't bother you.
"Those who would give up their liberties for security deserve neither liberty nor security." (Paraphrased, of course)
When you buy a console from MS, think of it from this perspective - they don't lose $126, but rather recoup $400 towards a $526 loss.
Although in the end they've already made their money from the retailers who stock up. But if nobody bought them off the retailers, the retailers wouldn't order more for their shelves.
I can't wait for the episode of CSI where kids are inspired by an episode of CSI that was inspired by Grand Theft Auto to go on a crime spree across town
I still play my NES regularly...nearly a decade and then some and still good. Also still play SNES, N64, Genesis, Saturn, etc.
My $50 only drops down on a game I know I'll love for a long time...definitely longer than 20-25 hours of entertainment. It might not be much to you, but that's quite a bit of money to justify a throw-away game. But then again, I'm a collector, so games that potentially die on me are out of the question. YMMV.
It's not like remembering where a button is located requires 100% of your concentration...
Such an inane nitpick...first you complain about the controls working while in your pocket...someone tells you how to solve that problem...and instead of saying "thanks, I'll try that out" you complain about having to remember a button's location...would you rather it magically learn whenever it is inside your pockets?
It seems that you're looking for a reason to complain about the iPod...
Chill out. Just because you aren't interested does not mean the rest of the world isn't. Some of us who play at game tournaments are interested in stuff like this.
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The difference in how customers are being treated could be due to the severity of the issue, though. Samsung has never been highly rated in terms of customer service, but having phone batteries catch fire/explode on people requires a company to step up if they want any chance at salvaging their reputation.
VR still seems like a gimmick to me. Like waggle controls and the Kinect before it, people will inevitably prefer sit-down gaming in the long run, and I'm pretty sure VR will revert to merely simulating a 50"+ screen by strapping it to your face.
Everybody's favorite type of argument: semantics
To be fair to Apple, they've yet to have a phone routinely catch fire and/or explode on people. Compare to Samsung, who initially tried to ignore the fact that replacement phones from their recall were also exploding, and one of their employees accidentally sent an internal SMS to a person who was calling support to report his phone exploding with the following text:
"Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will matter, or we just let him do what he keeps threatening to do and see if he does it."
Comparing the response of a company's phone bending versus another company's phones exploding is reaching.
You were doing fine until you said "sell"; you (nor Psystar) are allowed to distribute their software without permission. Note that while you never said you would install OS X on the machines before selling it, this is exactly what Psystar is doing. And it will probably be where they fall legally.
Yes, I've heard of the kernel. Have you ever heard of the applications, frameworks, and interface that sit on top of the kernel that actually make the whole thing work?
I like how that post was modded as "Informative"
They could always figure "Super Metroid will be purchased anyways, we'll just charge full price." But if they want to reach those casual gamers who have never played a 2D game before, it might be a nice offer.
It is illegal, however, as many posters have pointed out already, to use your monopoly in one market to force your product onto consumers in another market.
"When you can't attack the points, attack the person."
You bring up third party games that suck on the Cube, yet True Crime, King Kong, football ports, Judge Dredd, Army Men, and wrestling games make up quite a bit of Sony's third party support. Was your point to show that Nintendo also has crappy third party support? My point was that third party support means nothing of it churns out shitty games, something you're argument seems to support, because you were using such titles to discredit the GC's third party lineup. Thanks.
"The fact of the matter is that the percentage of crappy games on the Gamecube is equivalent to the percentage of crappy games on the Playstation 2. The only difference is that the PS2 has 30 times the number of games choose from. Are there more crappy games? Sure! But there are also more good ones. It doesn't mean that Pikmin 2 doesn't kick ass."
You're stating it is a fact, but rather it is an opinion of your own. Let's not forget my original post only stated my belief that "third party support means nothing if [most of the games third parties churn out suck, or are cheap ripoffs of better games]." You seem to have taken that as an attack on your favorite system, and have responded with inaccurate statements (not knowing your first and second party games from your third party games) and supporting my claim by listing crappy third party support for the Cube, which leads to my main opinion: the Cube doesn't need "huge" third party support, so long as it receives its share of Viewtiful Joe and RE4 quality third party releases.
"Rose Colored Glasses Adventure 17" huh? I suggest you play "Know Your Gaming Industry 42"
Generic GTA Ripoff 2: Cruise Control,
FPS Already on PC but with Worse Controls,
Dynasty Warriors Who Press Two Buttons for Three Hours,
Random Racing Game that is Totally 'Street' Dub Edition,
The Guy Game That Sucks But At Least It Isn't 'Kiddie' Because of Boobs,
and BMXXX Kiddie Games Suck You're Totally Mature Playing This Game Trying to Make a Dog Shit.
And with Boll's films' recent performances, I doubt he'd be the director who could make a movie that would bring in asstons of cash.
You'll still pay for Windows XP, whether or not you install something else on that machine.
Now, since we're clear I am not assuming it will happen, because I used the conditional "if" rather than the confirming "when," can I get an answer?
If anybody is assuming anything, it is YOU that is assuming such events could never, ever happen. Don't say people's arguments are based on assumptions when your counter-arguments are assumptions themselves (the government is right, they will never abuse their powers, etc).
It might be a huge leap to us, but, give the government more powers like this in the future, and such a leap might not seem that large for later generations of Americans. I never said anything about encrypting conversations to mom - I only state that I shouldn't have to, in order to protect my privacy, unless they go through the system, including getting a warrant, a Constitutional Right I have as a citizen, in order to spy on me. By selectively going against the Constitution, they are falling into the terrorists' ideals - to take away our freedom. And people like you are allowing it.
The founding fathers believed that any government with too much power will abuse it one day. It might not be today, or in our life time, but at least concede that such an event could happen, no matter the "probability" you would assign it.
It isn't about arrogance - it is about stopping a potentially oppressive regime from ever occurring for future generations of Americans. The government may or may not have good intentions now, but selective judgement of their actions, no matter the intention, can lead to a dangerous situation in the future. Just look at 1930s Germany.
Note the example stated that you were a WELL KNOWN voice, meaning the government would indeed notice you, and would be watching you, since you are well known publicly. You have some weird notions of what "arrogant" means. Your above analogy doesn't even fit anywhere near this discussion, and I suddenly have the feeling that you're trolling. It isn't a case of the improbability of everybody in the US being spied on - but certainly you know that the government can spy on one person pretty easily, especially if they have been vocal against the state. And that, no matter how "arrogant" you might find it to be, is wrong. Do you agree?
as i previously stated, i am not afraid of the government knowing but corperations and i guess you can lump scam artists in there. i wouldnt mind if there was a government database of all my calls. as for online, if anyone can access it, their are plenty of unethical people willing to abuse it without the limitations that the government has on it to limit it's use. as for the emails, work emails are kept internal to protect the corperation from being ripped off by outsiders, not the government. if you hadn't noticed, their already is a requirement to retain all business emails for (i think) two years so the whole enron bit does repeat. so if the government wants that information, they can have it because i know there are limitations to what they can do with it. also, there is some site that posts a bunch of internal company memos already and nobody has a problem with that. seriously though, if you wanted to see my personal emails, i really wouldnt care, but that would take a bunch of time to process into screenshots. as mentioned previously, i think there are hateful people that would sign me up for spam to smite me or something. in short, i trust what the goverment does with information, but not people or corperations.
So you're saying that someone who works for the government is 100% trustworthy? Because you think they'd stop at such limitations? Even though recent news headlines points to illegal spying on citizens? Gull-i-ble.
It is not about whether or not he is paranoid that the government will be spying on him, specifically - imagine if such activities are continued to allowed, and the government becomes less friendly in the future. Imagine being a well known voice against the current leader's policies, and trying to start protests, like actions of civil disobedience that Martin Luther King led, in order to change public policy that the current leader REALLY liked. Such protests would be over before they began, and your voice to speak out against the government would be squashed.
I would rather such a scenario never even be remotely possible and be considered a completely paranoid nut job than to allow it to creep up on us by turning a blind eye. Giving up information the parent asked you to give isn't such a feat anyways, as the government probably knows most of this already. How about you allow us to tap into your phone lines, though? We could keep the recordings in an online database even, without you being able to delete them. How about your emails, including work-related emails (can never be TOO safe, you know)? Post them online for us, uncensored of course. You can even use screenshots of the emails, so online spammers won't bother you.
"Those who would give up their liberties for security deserve neither liberty nor security." (Paraphrased, of course)
Although in the end they've already made their money from the retailers who stock up. But if nobody bought them off the retailers, the retailers wouldn't order more for their shelves.
I can't wait for the episode of CSI where kids are inspired by an episode of CSI that was inspired by Grand Theft Auto to go on a crime spree across town
My $50 only drops down on a game I know I'll love for a long time...definitely longer than 20-25 hours of entertainment. It might not be much to you, but that's quite a bit of money to justify a throw-away game. But then again, I'm a collector, so games that potentially die on me are out of the question. YMMV.
Such an inane nitpick...first you complain about the controls working while in your pocket...someone tells you how to solve that problem...and instead of saying "thanks, I'll try that out" you complain about having to remember a button's location...would you rather it magically learn whenever it is inside your pockets?
It seems that you're looking for a reason to complain about the iPod...
Sounds like you're having a little too much fun with your database...
Chill out. Just because you aren't interested does not mean the rest of the world isn't. Some of us who play at game tournaments are interested in stuff like this.