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Disgusting, Scary 'Walking' Fish Invades Maryland
texchanchan writes: "It's from China, it's a predator, and it can live for DAYS out of water. And it's in Maryland as reported at Yahoo. 'They can survive for two to three days out of water, breathing air with a primitive lung, pushing themselves around with their pectoral fins.' Read about it at the Maryland Fishing Report site or just look at its picture. Maryland Fishing Report says: 'This fish was most likely introduced by an individual with an aquarium. Never release aquarium fish into ponds and lakes!' Those exotic species will get us yet."
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I want to post the POLKA but it's full of Unicode characters. I must fix this situation...
2002-07-04 03:21:18 Slashdot commits Unicide, slaughters all non-ASCII-speaking netizens, film at 11 (articles,news) (rejected)
Hey, kid... wanna touch my "kernel patch"?
-- Alan Cox
could this be living proof of the evolutionary path that aquatic creatures took to make it to land many millions (billions) of years ago? looks like it to me :-) I love hearing about this.
What an ugly fish.
I have been pwned because my
Now our seafood can walk to us!
Get in my belly, little fishy!
From the article: But it is not quite true that they can walk on land, Schwaab said: "We would sort of characterize their mode of transport more along the lines of wallowing." .The national geographic has more info about similar alien species besides a better report on the same fish.Also, Check out the alien picture gallery, for photos of similar species.
I really love the idea of the Parrots in NYC, there is apparently only one colony of them living on top of Statium lights on the northern end of the city. Only a little over a hundred, no one is quite sure where they came from, but they've been there since the 60's or 70's. There has been some talk of killing them off but I think few think they could spread very far.
She was afraid it would eat the goldfish, so she had it transferred to a nieghbors pond where it currently lives.
Theres no point to this post, I just wanted some crackhead moderator to waste a mod point putting it in -1 land.
A fish walks into a bar...
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Anyhow, I went to their annex today (and got O'reilley's Java in a nutshell for $10). Since I knew Green Day's Shenanigens was just released, I went to check that out... and they were charging $14.99 for it! I couldn't believe it -- after all, the list price is $13.98. bn.com and amazon.com sell it for around 13.00.
I can't believe this bullshit. So I d/l all the songs from gnutella and made my own cd. I suggest everyone do the same to show barnes and noble that we won't stand for this bullshit!
Reminds me of the Coelacanth.
"Moderate drinking can help prevent amputated limbs" -- Abigail Zuger, NYTimes, 12/31/02
By Serial Troller, 2002-07-04
THE HAGUE -- Robert ?CmdrTaco? Malda, the owner of the popular technology website Slash Dot, has become one of the first U.S. citizens to be indicted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against typography. The Court, authorized by the Rome Statute and ratified by over 60 nations, is charged with the duty of prosecuting individuals for serious human rights violations such as genocide, torture, and sexual slavery.
With this prosecution, the Court seems intent on adding a new crime to their docket, the crime of ?Unicide.?
?What this ?Taco Commander? did to the international community is unconscionable,? U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan was quoted saying. ?Yesterday, there was a flourishing Unicode-speaking population, numbering in the thousands. Today, there are none. They are all silenced. Their Unicode is either blocked by this so-called ?Lameness Filter? or silently wrenched from their messages.?
Slash Dot is home to at least 580,000 citizens, who hail from every Internet-equipped country in the world. However, many more ? perhaps nearly a million ? live anonymously amongst the ranks of registered citizens.
????? ? ?????, Prime Minister of ???? ?????????????, was outraged when he heard of Slash Dot?s decision to cleanse all Unicode-speaking individuals from their website.
The White House was dismayed by the decision of the Court to prosecute an American citizen for what the President deemed, a ?politicalized persecutorial.? White House spokesman Ari Flescher announced that the U.S. would, if pressed, go forward with their recently unveiled plan to invade the Netherlands, if this prosecution was not halted. ?This is absolutely stunning,? he said. ?That the United States would be expected to even acknowledge the presence of other character sets other than ASCII is an offense in its own right. You either write in ASCII, or you?re with the terrorists.?
Slash Dot, and its parent corporation, VA Software, were unavailable for comment.
Hey, kid... wanna touch my "kernel patch"?
-- Alan Cox
My sister Nicole was the sexiest thing I ever saw in my life, growing up in a
small household proved difficult with just my mum and my sister. My mum and dad had broken up a year before, leaving me growing up in a household of women.
My sister was eighteen at the time and I just was fifteen. I had always been a
small kid and people always thought I was about a couple of years younger. My
sister Nicole however, was every guy's dream. She had long blonde shoulder
length hair big blue eyes which you could just stare at all day, and what a
body! She had a body like a porn star, built for fucking! I reckon she must have
been at least a 34C-28-34. I cannot remember the number of times I had jacked
off over her each night, it must have easily run into the hundreds and hundreds, she was a BABE!
I would sometimes look through her bedroom keyhole and see her getting ready to go to the gym. I could never see any further down past her breast's which would always annoy the hell out of me, as the keyhole was a funny shape. Although sometimes I would catch a glimpse of her perfect stomach, which was tanned a golden brown and had absolutely no fat at all. How I fantasised about what her pussy looked, smelled, and tasted like, I bet she had a beautiful pussy just like the rest of her body.
I would always wait impatiently for Sis to come home from the local gym and take a shower. Luckily for me she would never take a shower at the gym, as she said the women there would always stare at her. If you saw my Sis you would know what I mean.
Sis would always get undressed in her bedroom and wear a dressing gown into the bathroom leaving her sweaty gym gear in a pile on her bedroom floor, along with her dirty thong panties. I would wait for her to lock the bathroom door and would then run greedily into her bedroom and pick up her dirty panties, which would still be slick,wet & sticky with her freshly coated pussy juices. I would lock myself in the other bathroom downstairs and sniff at her panties devouring the sweaty fishy smell for as long as I could, before greedily lapping at the insides which would be covered with her delicious sticky pussy juices. I would always lick them until they were clean, taking precious care not to miss any of her juices. I would then always have to hurry back and make sure I replaced her panties before she finished her shower, otherwise there would be HELL to pay !
Nicole also had the most perfect breasts I had ever seen. They were both the
size of a pair of large melons, each one perfectly round and perfectly formed
with nipples that looked like small bullets. They would always bounce up and
down when she came running down the stairs, even when she was wearing her sports bra. Mmm, how I fantasised about freeing those titties and sucking each one greedily in my hands. Little did I know that all my fantasies were going to come true very soon !
It was October the 5th and it was Nicole's nineteenth birthday. She was going out that night with her friends from high school, about ten of them altogether.
I heard them talking about going to some new nightclub in town, and how they
were going to find her a sexy guy. Believe me my sister didn't need any help in getting men, men just drooled over her whereever she went. She had just broken up with Her boyfriend Mike about 3 weeks before, so her friends were going to find her a new bloke. I thought to myself, it's going to be some lucky bastard's night tonight, little did I realise that the lucky bastard would be me!
My mum had also made plans to go out that night with her boyfriend Dave, who was picking her up at 9.00 PM. My sisters friends would be coming round at 9.30 PM to pick my sister up, so it would just be me on my own tonight. I decided to jack off to some porn videos as soon as my mum and sister had left, so I didn't mind being on my own.
I went into the living room and sprawled out on the sofa in my shorts and t-
shirt, which is what I normally wear around the house. About 10 minutes later my mum came down, "are you sure your going to be all right on your own tonight honey" ?? "Yes mum", I replied as she walked into the living room. She was obviously making an effort for Dave tonight, she was wearing her tight black outfit, and looked really sexy. "You look nice mum", I replied. "Thanks honey", "I thought I'd better make an effort as Dave's taking me to a really posh
restaurant tonight". Yeah, I though I bet that's not all that's going to be on
the menu tonight. "Remember if there's an emergency or something call me on my mobile, ok" ? "yes mum", what on earth could go wrong in one night I thought ? "I might be back late honey, so don't wait up ok" ? "ok" , I replied.
I heard a horn sound outside as Dave pulled up in his new BMW, "Dave's here mum" ! I shouted, "yes I know honey" ! "Remember to call me if anything happens", "yes mum" I replied, "now go"! She kissed me on the cheek and then left through the back door. "Thank god" ! I thought, another ten minutes and my sisters friends would be here. I would finally be able to jack off to my porno movies, my cock was starting to twitch at the thought of it.
What the hell is Nicole doing I thought, she must have been in her room for
about an hour and a half. What seemed like eternity, I finally heard her bedroom door open and footsteps as she came down the stairs. I pretended to be watching TV as she casually walked into the living room. The sight that greeted me was enough to shoot my load there and then! My sister was dressed like a slut on heat!
She was wearing the sexiest outfit I had ever seen! She was wearing the shortest black figure hugging skirt which I had ever seen, barely covering her perfectly tanned round arse. It started to ride up her cheeks as she bent over to pick up her earrings off the table. As she bent over, I caught a glimpse of the smallest and skimpiest white thong I had ever seen, riding up her arse cheeks & hugging her pussy as if it had been sprayed on. "Christ" ! I thought I would love to stick my tongue in there! I definitely won't be watching any porno movies tonight I thought to myself! The sight of my sister gave me an instant boner, which I quickly covered by grabbing a cushion and shoving it over my dick. Luckily my sister didn't see anything.
"So what you doing tonight squirt ?" my sister asked playfully. "Just watching
telly, nothing much" I replied. Little did she know that my evening would be
spent jacking over her in her skimpy skirt and sexy white thong!
"It's a shame your not eighteen otherwise you could have come out with me and
the girls," now there's a thought, my mind started having images of her friends, some of who were absolute horn babes, just like Nicole, god I would love to fuck them all!
"That's all right sis " I replied "maybe in a few years time". "Ok, I'll take
you up on that" she replied smiling her beautiful white smile back at me. As she walked over to the window to see if her friends had arrived, I couldn't take my eyes off her gorgeous hour glass figure, her skirt looked like it would tear off her arse if she sat down ! it left nothing to the imagination. As I tried to
tear my eyes away from her arse, I looked down at her beautiful long golden
tanned legs, which just seemed to go on forever. The fact that she had high
heels on made them look even longer ! God how I would love for her to wrap her legs around my neck; it would be pure heaven. I would have given anything to see her beautiful pussy, let alone fuck her! The only reason my friends came round, I'm sure was to see my sister. The house seemed to be packed in the summer with my friends, especially when sis was wearing her little hot pants and bra.
I desperately needed to go and jack off over sis, and couldn't wait any longer.
"I'm gonna take a shower sis", I said as I got up off the couch trying carefully
not to drop the cushion which would have otherwise exposed my raging cock! "Ok squirt", she replied.
I made it into the bathroom and threw the cushion concealing my raging cock to the bathroom floor. I pulled off my t-shirt and shorts and my circumcised cock immediately sprang out pointing towards the ceiling, all 7-inches of it. I
turned on the shower and immediately jumped in. Straight away I started to wank myself silly over the sight of my sister in her sexy outfit. After about 10
seconds I started to groan and shot a thick creamy load onto the side of the
shower curtain. God that felt good.
I quickly rinsed off my spunk from the shower curtain, careful not to leave any
evidence behind. Just as I stepped out of the shower I heard my sister shout,
"I'm going now squirt" ! "Ok" ! I shouted back, "have a good time", which I'm
sure she knew she was going to have, as she was dressed like a slut!
I threw my bathrobe on and went down stairs into the living room again, it was
all-quiet just me on my own. I pulled out my porno video, which I had carefully
hidden beneath a loose floorboard under the fireplace, and stuck it in the video
player. I watched the vid for about an hour, whilst jacking off a few more times
and decided to call it a night. I carefully hid my porno vid back under the
fireplace making sure it was out of sight, if my mum had ever found it there
would be hell to pay ! I trundled upstairs to my bedroom and crashed out on my bed. I must of dozed off for what must have been a few hours.
I awoke later on to the sound of a car pulling up outside. I looked at the clock
on my bedside table, it said 3.15 am. I pulled off my duvet and walked over to
my bedroom window, I looked outside and saw my big sister being held up by two of her friends, one under each arm. She looked pissed out of her head, and her friends were finding it funny as sis found it difficult to stand, let alone
walk.
I crept out to the top of the landing and listened quietly as I heard the front
door being opened. I heard one of my sisters friends say, "just put her on the
couch, you don't want to wake her mum and brother up". With that I heard the
door shut quietly and laughter as her friends got into their cars and drove off. I went back to my room and laid down again, it must have been about 10 or 15
minutes later when I thought that's odd, I haven't heard sis come up to her room
yet. I crept back onto the landing and went to my sister's room, she was not
there, she must still be down stairs I thought to myself. I quietly crept to my
mum's room and opened the door a little, my mum wasn't back either. I crept down the stairs quietly and made my way to the living room, the curtains were still open and it was a full moon. I looked around until my gaze fell on the couch, what greeted me was the sexiest sight I have ever seen, my cock within seconds sprang to life and popped out of my bath robe which I was still wearing.
Sprawled out on the couch was my sexy sister, she was lying down length ways
with one hand across her face, the other lying on the floor. Her legs were
parted slightly with one lying half on the floor near her hand, and the other
over the armrest. I looked down at my throbbing cock I had never seen it soo big and red, it seemed to be moving up and down on its own accord. I grasped it with my left hand and gently moved my hand back and forth taking in the beautiful sight before me. I looked down at my cock as I felt some pre-come ooze out, which I quickly rubbed back into the shaft.
I crept over quietly with my cock still in my hand over to sis, I knelt down by
her face and pushed aside her blonde hair. "Sis" I said quietly, there was no
response. I moved closer to her face and was overcome by the strong smell of
booze, she was seriously pissed. I shook her gently by the arm, which then fell
to her side. "Sis" I said a little louder this time, still no response. I
removed the bathrobe which I was still wearing and was now in the nude, my thick cock just inches away from my beautiful sisters face. I patted her gently on the face and still there was no response, just to be on the safe side I slapped her face gently to which I heard her mumble softly in a slurred & drunken voice.
This was a dream come true ! I looked towards the ceiling and said out aloud
"THANK YOU GOD" ! My sexy sister was sprawled out in front of me absolutely pissed out of her head and I could do what ever I wanted to her. My cock was starting to ache with pleasure now, as I fantasised about what I could do to my big sister.
I gently pulled the couch forwards and went round the back, it was one of those
couches which could be used as a spare bed. I unhooked the clamps at the back
and let the back drop out. Moving round the front, I pulled the couch forwards a little more until the back hit the ground with a thud. I looked back at sis to
make sure she wasn't waken up by the noise, good I thought, she was still out. I grabbed one of her legs and moved sis around so she was lying down with her legs facing me and her arms sprawled out behind her head. I still could not believe my luck, there she was in her sexy skin tight mini skirt I had seen her wearing earlier that evening, still wearing her high heels.
I moved up towards sis and patted her on the face again, still there was no
sound.With trembling fingers, I started to unbutton her shirt, carefully undoing each button slowly from fear of waking sis up. Eventually after about 5 minutes, there before me confined in her sports bra were the most beautiful tits I had ever seen. I quickly moved my hand carefully underneath her back and undid the strap holding her bra together. With a bit of difficulty I eventually heard it pop open. Pulling her bra down, I gently moved each arm out from underneath the straps and tossed the bra on the floor. My sister's tits were "absolutely beautiful" and tonight they were all mine. With trembling hands I greedily cupped each breast and gave them a squeeze, they felt nice and firm and were perfectly round just like a pair of large melons. Her workouts down the gym were definitely paying off I thought.
Bending down, I placed my mouth over sis's left breast, whilst at the same time running my tongue around her nipple & greedily sucking it. I started to massage her right tit with my other hand, nervously watching her face all the time just to make sure she didn't wake up. I carried on sucking each breast greedily in turn for about half an hour, before I decided to move up closer. Placing each of my legs over sis's waist, I eventually ended up in a kind
of squatting position. I looked down at my cock, which looked like it was going purple and needed to be seriously relieved very soon. With my cock in my hand I started to massage my sister's beautiful tits with my swollen purple head, one at a time to start with, then both together.
I cupped each of sis's breasts & pushed them both together to make a mound, like a camels hump. Carefully I then proceeded to slide my aching cock between each tit, as if I was fucking them. I carried on for as long as I could before I shot the thickest jet of come I had ever seen all over my sisters beautiful tits, I groaned out aloud as I was in pure ecstasy. Quickly I moved back down again and greedily massaged all of my fresh spunk into both of my sister's tits. I was surprised at just how much of it there was, considering I had jacked off a few times earlier that night. It was very sticky and creamy, but after a few minutes it was all massaged into sis's beautiful tits.
I slowly crawled off sis and knelt on the floor again, the best was yet to come I
thought greedily. My friends would give their left nut to be in my position now.
Placing a trembling hand on each of sis's golden brown thighs, I proceeded to move upwards towards her pussy, hitching up her mini skirt in the process. Gently I parted her thighs and then froze as I heard sis mumble again. "Its ok sis" I said quietly, "your baby brother is going to fuck you like the slut you are".
Looking down, there before me lay her beautiful pussy hugged greedily by the skimpy white cotton fabric of her thong panties. Anxiously, I moved my face towards sis's pussy & lapped greedily at the thin white cotton fabric which stood between me and her juicy pussy. I lapped insatiably for about 5 minutes, until her white panties were dripping wet with my saliva, combined together with her delicious pussy juices. This was it ! trembling like mad, I moved my hands towards sis's skimpy waistband holding up her white thong panties, and slipped a finger under each side. Gently I pulled down the skimpiest thong I had ever seen, just barely big enough to cover her pussy. I pulled off her thong and placed it to my nose, I sniffed it greedily. It smelled exquisite, a fishy, tangy and sweaty kind of smell all in one. Whatever it smelt like it smelt delicious and good enough to eat, now I realised why my friends always joked about a womans pussy smelling like a fish. But I didn't care it smelt divine to me. My sister must have been dancing all night to get this hot and sweaty. I ran my tongue down the inside of her panties tasting the sticky contents. It tasted delicious a sweet and tangy taste, I licked at it greedily devouring every last drop until her panties were literally clean.
As my gaze turned down towards sis, I gasped in shock and amazement! , Sis had a shaved pussy! I couldn't believe it, my big sister actually shaved her pussy! Of course I absolutely loved a shaved pussy! but I had to admit , it was the most beautiful shaved pussy I had ever seen. And I had seen quite a few in porn mags and in my porn vids, I felt like I had died and gone to heaven!
Swiftly, I grabbed sis's left leg and placed it on my left shoulder, grabbing her right leg I spread it out as far as I could. Her pussy seemed to open up like a juicy flower, with beautiful pink outer lips and a darker shade of pink on the inside. Without wasting any time I greedily moved my mouth towards my sister's hot juicy pussy glistening in the moonlight. I stuck my tongue inside and ran it up and down the length of her shaved pink wet slit. It tasted sweet and tangy, and smelt slightly fishy, to me it tasted absolutely delicious! . I lapped at her pussy greedily for what must have been at least an hour, devouring her sticky pussy juices like an Ethiopian who hadn't eaten in weeks. I stopped every once in a while when sis started to squirm around, when she stopped squirming I greedily carried on lapping her sticky pussy, savouring the tangy sweet taste until my face was dripping wet and sticky. Sis tasted delicious ! It was like tasting the forbidden fruit, I was addicted to eating my sisters beautiful pink pussy.
While eating out my sister's pussy, my cock had sprang back to life again and was standing proud, once again bursting to be relieved. I stood up and said out aloud, "I'm going to fuck you now sis, you sexy bitch!" I quickly ran upstairs into my bedroom and pulled out a pack of condoms I had hidden in my wardrobe. I grabbed a pack of six and ran back down again. Good, sis had not moved she was still in the same position, legs spread open, tits hanging out. I knelt down again between her tanned thighs and pulled a condom out of the pack. I carefully un-wrapped it & proceeded to pull it over my aching cock. The condom was very tight over my cock, as I had never seen it soo big ! Then again how many men get to fuck their sexy slut of a sister! After a few minutes of fiddling around, I finally managed to slide it over the entire length of my aching cock.
I carefully moved closer towards sis's slippery wet pussy, and gently guided the
head of my throbbing cock towards the entrance of her pussy. To my surprise ! my sister's pussy was unbelievably tight! considering she had been fucking Mike. Gently I eased my aching cock inside, an
inch at a time and then pulling back, and pushing back in again. My sister's
pussy felt beautifully velvety and warm, and very slick with her pussy juices
still overflowing from her cunt. Eventually after about 5 minutes, I had all of my 7-inch cock buried deep inside my sister's sticky, juicy pussy. I was in pure heaven as I slowly pumped back and forth greedily savouring the warm sticky
sensations around my cock. Gradually I built up the pace, I watched her face
anxiously in case she started to wake up, surprisingly sis remained in her
drunken slumber. "Thank you girls for getting my sister soo pissed !" I said out aloud. I pumped back and forth harder and harder, it felt soo good being inside
my big sisters pussy, it felt like a tight warm slippery glove wrapped around my cock. I was in heaven! I never wanted to pull my cock out, I didn't care if she
had woken up! I carried on fucking sis for what must have been a good 15 minutes, looking at her face and down at my cock, covered with her sticky juices. It suddenly dawned on me that sis had probably been fucking Mike as well (her ex boyfriend). I looked down at sis greedily and a wicked thought entered my mind, one which almost made me shoot my load there and then.
I stopped fucking sis, and slowly but reluctantly pulled my cock out of her
sticky pussy. I look down at my cock, which looked huge! The condom was covered with her delicious sticky juices. I quickly ran upstairs and went into sis's room, I turned on the light and looked around her room. Quickly I opened all of her drawers in her dressing table and her wardrobe, please, please, I thought to myself let sis be on the pill.
Jumping over the bed, I pulled out the draw from her bedside table and looked
inside, still nothing, where would she put it I thought? Just as I was about to
go into the bathroom something caught my eye stuck to the back of the bedside
table on the inside. And there it was! A packet of birth control pills
sellotaped to the inside where no one could see. I was in heaven my mind started to race, as I knew I could fuck my sister without a condom on and not have to worry about getting her pregnant! My mind went wild at the thought of it, my cock instantly started twitching like mad and started to ache painfully.
I ran back downstairs two at a time, almost tripping over the last step. Sis was still there, she had moved around though so she was now on her side, "SHIT !" I thought, I'm gonna have to move her again without waking her!
Slowly I knelt down in front of sis, gingerly I pulled her right shoulder around and she flopped down on her back again. With my other had I parted her legs again to make way for my engorged and aching cock.
This is it I thought ! I finally get to fuck my sister properly ! My cock
started to ache like mad, I could feel the spunk in my balls building up and
wanting to be released. Kneeling between her thighs, I tried to pull the condom
off my cock, it was very tight and slippery. In the end using both my hands I managed pull it off, it was on soo tight. As I pulled it off it made a loud
"SNAP" noise. I threw it to the floor and greedily guided my unprotected cock
towards my sister's hot juicy pussy.
I eased in the head gently, "GOD !" It felt soo good, my sister's pussy was soo
slippery and warm, I couldn't wait any longer and plunged all of my 7 inches
deep inside her. I didn't care if she woke up ! I fucked sis like a wild animal, I held both her arms down forcefully as I fucked her hard, god knows how she didn't wake up! I fucked and fucked her like mad. I could smell a slightly fishy aroma in the air from her pussy juices combined with my cock juices which drove me mad and I fucked her even harder. This was it, I was starting to come, I could hear my thighs slapping against her bare pussy, making a loud squelching sound as my cock slid in and out of her tight slick pussy. I quickly grabbed each of her arse cheeks and with one huge plunge stuck all of my 7 inches inside her pussy as deep as it would go. At the same time I pulled her arse cheeks towards me penetrating her pussy all the way to my balls. With one loud groan I emptied my balls deep into my sisters hot sticky pussy. For some unknown reason I bit down hard on her shoulder as I shot my load deep inside her. I was in pure ecstasy & was amazed that I managed not to wake her up!
I came several times deep inside sis like a bullet out of a gun. Just the thought of my sperm splattering deep inside her unprotected pink vagina, greedily making their way up to her cervix looking to fertilise her eggs, made me push my cock inside even deeper. All the way to my balls, making positively sure that every last drop went deep inside her beautiful pussy. God it felt good ! I never wanted to pull my cock out ever again. I really didn't care if she was on the pill. I prayed each time as I emptied my balls, that I would get my sexy sister pregnant, and actually found myself hoping that she had stopped taking the pill.
I lay on top of sis breathing heavily for what must have been about five
minutes, my exhausted cock still buried deep inside her. I looked up at her
beautiful face and thanked god that her friends had got her so utterly pissed. I
slowly pulled my semi-errect cock out from her hot sticky pussy. I looked down and saw my cock glistening with my sisters pussy juices, it was a beautiful sight to see. As soon as I pulled my cock out of sis, what seemed like gallons of my spunk poured out freely from sis's pussy. GOD it was a beautiful sight!
I just lay there looking at my sister and could not believe that I had finally
got to taste her delicious pussy and fuck her in the same night ! I quickly
picked up the white thong that I had thrown on the floor and wiped sis's pussy
with it, trying to clean up as much of the mess as I could. With great
difficulty I finally managed to put her sports bra back on, which seemed to be a
size too small, but eventually I got those beautiful tits back in and buttoned
her shirt back up. I sniffed her panties once again and devoured the fishy tangy
smell that was coming from them. I decided to keep them for myself as they were covered in her pussy juices and tasted delicious. Carefully I pulled sis's skirt back down which barely covered her pussy and arse, and grabbed a blanket from the cupboard which I threw over her. Good I thought, she didn't wake up once and I had finally got to act out all of my fantasies in one night! What more could a guy ask for? I knew my sister would never let me see her in the nude, let alone eat her out and fuck her in one night! I knew that this was definitely a one off and would never happen again, but still I had her soiled panties to remind me of the experience.
I grabbed the used condom off the floor and also put it carefully in my bathrobe
pocket along with her panties, so I could sniff and jack over it in the morning.
I looked back at sis for one last time and then quietly made my way to my
bedroom before mum came back. I fell into bed exhausted and didn't wake up till the morning. I didn't hear mum come in that night, but she came into my room in the morning with my mug of hot chocolate and asked if I had a good time last night. I just replied "yes", but little did she know that I got to fuck the
sexiest bitch in the whole world, her daughter, my sister! If mum ever found out I knew that I would definitely be disowned from the family, but I didn't care, I finally got to fuck Nicole.
Nicole woke up later on in the afternoon, "did you have a good night sis ?" I asked, "shut up squirt !" she replied. "I've got a fucking headache, and I'm sore down there" she said pointing to her pussy, "well it must have been a good night then" I replied. With that sis got up and went upstairs to take a shower, she didn't say anything about the fact that she had not panties on. Maybe she thought she gave them to some lucky guy in the nightclub. Little did she know that I had them under my pillow, still fresh & sticky with her delicious pussy juices.
Unfortunately, I never did get my sister pregnant that night, although I secretly prayed that I did. A month went by and she obviously had her period otherwise all hell would have broken loose, as my mum is not the kind of person to take things like this lightly.
As for me, I still jack off over my sexy bitch of a sister every moment I get.
She is still the horniest & sexiest bitch I know. I sniff her panties every
night and jack off over them, I can't wait till her next birthday. I just pray
that her friends will take her out and get her drunk so I can fuck her brains
out and eat her delicious shaved pussy again.
Who knows, if I get another chance, I might try fucking her up the arse?
The mirror is between my legs. The razor moves up and down my lustrous hairy bush. My fingers part the moist lips displaying the pinkish clit. I am enjoying the view, loving what I see. No wonders Mr. Johnson can't have enough of me, and I can't have enough of him.
He is the best boss I ever had. I get paid three times more than any other secretaries doing the same kind of work, and surprised with expensive presents now and then such as a strand of luxurious pearls he pulled out my cunt on my last birthday, and I got to keep it later. I take good dictation, and can offer more than any other secretary could offer. Shaving my pussy is my everyday ritual to get ready for work. I want to be always ready for Mr. Johnson. I dress up like any other secretary but wear nothing underneath. Who knows when he has the urge for my flesh? I could be fully in clothes, and provide him the best service he could ever ask for from a secretary. The skirt can be pulled up above my waist and the blouse above my breasts. He can have me anyway he wants with no hassle. It could be just a quickie one, or a long satisfying session. That's why he doesn't go anywhere without me. He could be on the phone while his fingers are sliding in and out my pussy and ass hole. He could grab my ass and have me bent over his desk for a rear entry any time he's in the mood. There are times, he puts an anal plug in my ass and makes sit on it while taking notes. The vibration in my ass eventually increases its speed and makes me cum during the session. He loves seeing me all blushed and satisfied. A few times, before a client walked in for a meeting, he asked me to come near him. He instructed me to prepare for some dictation while his hand reached under my skirt. I shivered. A cigar was slipped in my wet cunt in and out a few times. The client walked in. Nothing was obvious. He put the wet end in his mouth and lit up the other end enjoying it during the whole meeting. He winked and smiled at me discretely now and then. I was so pleased knowing the taste of my juice on the cigar makes him happy. He looks so sexy while running a meeting, negotiating deals with clients. I wished and dreamt that I could put my pussy on his face at that moment and have him eat me wildly on that conference table. Of course a three-course meal is what he and I love best. I would have his cock fucking my mouth, while he eats my pussy and fucks my asshole with a dildo from his drawer, or whatever he can get in the office. It could be a banana fucking my cunt in the morning when he had his breakfast, or a big fat highlighter in my ass. He feeds me in all three ways at once so skillfully giving me countless orgasms during the session. Doing a job I can like, getting generous pay to support my extravagant spending for expensive merchandise, and getting fucked in three ways by a skillful man. I am happier than ever
Today, Mr. Johnson is meeting with some clients over a new contract. He said this contract is very important for the company. "Sweetheart, your sweet smile could melt them and theywill be easier to deal with." Of course I want to please him. Today, my dress is at the knee length with buttons on the front. The blue dress fits my voluptuous body like a second skin, showing my perfect curves. My pussy is nicely shaved prepared for a celebration with him afterward. I can't wait. He was talking with three other men when I walked in the middle of the meeting. A black guy, a Latino and a big white guy.. they all are very good looking in the crispy business suits. I feel all eyes suddenly landed on me, up and down my body. I am flushed with heat running throughout the body. I could barely walk. I pretend like I didn't notice anything, pick up my notebook and sit down. The discussion continues. I walk back and forth while taking notes; or sit down in a chair crossing my legs revealing the perfect hips. Now and then at the corner of my eyes, I catch the men's eyes doing the survey, up and down my body. Embarrassment or excitement I can't tell. I hope to hide the blush on my face, but it might be too obvious. Gosh! I think Mr. Johnson knows it too.
The negotiation seems to about to reach the agreement. The clients are still playing a little hard-to-get game. Suddenly, Mr. Johnson grabs a bottle of champagne from the bar, and announces: "Come on guys. Take the deal and call for a celebration. "How about a drink on her". He looked at me, smiling. I was in shock. What did he mean by that. He grabs me and pulls my back to him facing all the men. He starts undoing my buttons. I am shaking. My breasts are bare to them. His hands run lower. All the buttons are undone. The dress is partly off my shoulders.. Bare shoulders, bare breasts, my stomach and legs are displaying to the men with no flaws. He parts my legs wider, and runs his fingers in my pussy "what do you think, Guys. Would you like drinking the champagne off this hot pussy" I am shaking and protest. Nooooo This is not part of the deal. I only serve you, Mr.Johnson. Not anyone else. Not these three men. I can't move. His arms lock my body firmly. The men's eyes lit up with smiles on their faces. "then sign the paper, and let the champagne flows". The papers on the table now have all the proper signatures. My head spins. My heartbeats are going fast. This can't be happening. I try to free myself, but failed. I close my eyes taking a deep breath. I feel hands on my breasts, squeezing, nipping. My nipples are teased and pinched. Someone's lips are on mine engorging sucking my tongue like a madman. A warm breeze under on my pussy, a wet tongue invading my sensitive part, sucking my clits like crazy. I try to escape. do I want to escape? I am confused. Suddenly, my body shudders. A tremendous wave makes its way, crashing. Ahhh I climax, so fast so unprepared. "Mr. Johnson, you lucky dog. Where did you find this hot stuff?" 'I hope you'll find this is one of your best deals ever". "no doubt about it Mr. Johnson... no doubt". Someone puts a blindfold on me. My dress is dropped to the side. My body is lifted up, placed lying down on the conference table. Two hands grab my legs and spread apart. "time for the champagne' I heard Mr. Johnson's voice. "All right" the cheer is on. The champagne bottle is popped. A mouth on my pussy, then pouring, the chill the excitement, as the first drop touches my clit.. I squirm. The mouth catches the champagne licking it off me. His tongue digs inside licking off my flowing juice while he is drinking the champagne off me. His tongue explores, circles, twists and digs in deep, sucked and ravaged my cunt like a hungry dog. "Wow, this is great. The champagne mixed with cunt juice is the best thing I ever tasted". "Wow, My turn" another voice. The champagne keeps pouring, another mouth joins in sucking eating drinking off my flesh. I moan with long soft sigh. The smell of a man is closer to my fac then "open your mouth, sexy". I started to say something but got shut out immediately with a cock quickly shoved in. It's pressed in so deep I can hardly breath. My mouth my tongue has its own will, and desires to perform its duty. The cock is pumping in and out of my mouth while the champagne is still being drunk off my pussy. It drips down to my ass. This man whoever he was didn't want to let it go wasted. His tongue moves with the champagne from my pussy to my ass, licking off every drop, then fingers, one then two, in my asshole pumping in and out stretching me. It hurts. I protest but could hardly make any sense with a cock deep in my throat. Fingers are in my cunt, then oh! Something else is shoved in. A cool flow moves inside. The opening of the bottle is now inside my cunt, filling it with champagne. The bottle moves in and out. They fuck me with the bottle. Oh it's so humiliating. How could they violate me like this. I moan and groan. the bottle moves faster, and faster. The cock in my mouth moves more urgently. I hear gasps and sighs. oohh. this is too much to bear. My body convulses, more violently. Then, aaaahhhhhhh! another wave reaches its height. I scream louder. The scream seems never end. The cock in my mouth and the bottle don't seem to stop, extending the pleasure longer and last and last. Finally, I collapse.
"I think she's ready for the real thing now". Still with the blindfold, someone turn me over, and lead my body to sit on someone, already lying on the table. A hand goes underneath me, guiding a cock in my cunt. The cock is huge. It must be the big white guy with the blue tie. I have a little trouble to get the whole cock inside me. His head must be touching another organ in my body. I've never had a cock that big, it must be the size of a stallion. Without waiting for a command, my body automatically moves, riding the cock as if it has been trained so well for. "Damn this pussy is hot" someone commented 'let's see how hot her ass is". Two hands on my ass, squeezing hard like someone is trying to get all the juice out of two grapefruits, then fingers are dipped in, stretching my asshole. "Man, she's tight. Damn!" "don't worry give her a little jelly then she can take it just fine. Give it to her" the sound of Mr. Johnson. I can smell his familiar sensual scent very near me. The scent is closer. His cock is now in my mouth, my beloved. I know it's you even with the blindfold. "Good girl" he said "you can thank me later after you have a big black cock in your ass. Have you ever had a black cock in your ass before". I shook my head. "Would you like it now". I nod. The sticky jelly is rubbed in circles in my asshole, more fingers thrusting then a head touches, slowly inserts. The pain. Ah! I buck backward. The insertion stops. I ease my body, relax my hips, spreading my legs further apart. The insertion continues slowly. I moan, and groan. The mixture of the pain and the pleasure intensify the excitement and the lust that sparks the electricity inside me, every spot every skin. The moan is more vocal, that seems to excite the man with the cock in my ass. He gives his last forceful push. I buck again. It hurts so good. Another orgasm landed almost immediately with his last forceful push. His whole cock is now completely inside me. He stops and waits for the pain to subside and for my body to come to rest from the climax. The experienced man knows exactly what he is doing and when to do it. He now slowly pumps his cock. His pumps are wonderful maculated, faster and faster he goes. Gasps and sighs and hard breathing. "Man, look at her ass eating that black cock, I could just explode". The breathing is now heavier and faster from everyone. The pumps are accelerating. I am totally fucked in all holes. Mr. Johnson is fucking my mouth, a giant white cock I am riding on, and a black cock fucking my ass. I am drowned with lust. I feel the ecstasy is building enormously or wildly. I am going to cum again, with three cocks fucking me senselessly... "Damn you damn you all. Fuck me. Fuck my brain out" I scream. My body writhes and writhes, violently. The slamming, the pumping are more urgent and forceful. Hot juice shot down my throat as Mr. Johnson screams his lungs out, then "fuck" in my ass the cock pumps madly and harder and presses deep inside me and slowly to a stop. My ass is overflowing with juice dripping down to my cunt where I still hold on to the giant cock. I ride and ride meeting the rush, breaking the wall, convulse and crash on the stallion as he screams "ahhhhh damn"I could feel his hot sperms shooting inside me. It seems the last guy is masturbating standing next to me. He must be so hard, so ready now. I collapse on the stallion. So much pleasure and satisfaction that I have ever experienced at once. Exhausted I roll to the side of the stallion trying to catch my breath, only to feel my legs are picked up and a cock entering my pussy. That must be the last guy. He keeps pumping me while I am lying there after the enormous explosion. It still feels good. While a cock is still pumping in and out of my pussy, I smile with satisfaction and pass out. The best fuck ever. Thank you Mr. Johnson.
Megan was a stunning 14 year old. She stood about 5'7, with beautiful green eyes, shoulder length light brown hair with blonde high lights, good sized breasts for her age (we'll say a big B cup), and the most perfect tightest virgin ass one has ever seen. Megan's mom, Beth, was stunning as well. She was in her late 30's, but looked more like she was in her late 20's. She had a full healthy chest, a flat stomach, nice round butt, and a beautiful face. Megan's parents were very sexually active, participating in either oral, anal, or sexual intercourse nearly every night. Her father, Brett, was also well built man and worked out alot. But despite all of her beauty Megan was still a squeaky clean virgin. Not participating in any sexual acts considered more then making out. She had chances with many boyfriends but there was only one person in her life that she found extremely sexual- strange enough this was her own mother! She occasionally fantisized about what it would be like to be involved in her parents sex lives. The more she thought about it, the guiltier she felt because she knew that none of her friends or piers felt that way about their own parents.
Finally she decided the only way to rid herself of these feelings was to tell her mother and father and hope would understand and somehow help her through them. So one night, after all of her brother's and sisters were asleep, Megan crept into her parents bedroom. Her dad was wearing his boxers, and her mother was wearing a night robe over some cotton panties and a bra. Megan was wearing a skimpy little night gown, which went down just past her belumptious ass, and dipped low revealing her young budding tits.
"Mom," Megan started, "Can I talk to you about something?"
"Well of course, honey, you can tell your father and I anything" her mom replied.
"Uhm, this is hard, but uhm well lately I have been having some sexual feelings" Megan stuttered.
"Oh hunny, its perfectly normal for a girl your age to start to have sexual feelings about young boys your age" her mother comforted.
"Well thats the thing Mom, I don't have sexual feelings about boys, I have them about you two. I fantasize about having sex with both of you" Megan said, unsure about what reaction she would get.
Originally as expected Megan's parents were shocked and it showed in there faces. "Hold on a second honey," her mother said. Beth and her husband exchanged whispers for a few minutes and finally came to a conclusion. "Well your father and I have come to a decision" Beth replied.
"Are you gonna send me to a psychologist??" Megan asked, expecting a yes.
But her mother answered, "No no no, honey, we have decided that the best way for you to expell these sensations is to experience them instead of bottling them deep inside your precious little heart. After all, your father finds you extremely attractive. I on the other hand am gonna need some talking into, so why don't you get undressed for Mommy and if I like what I see then you can crawl in bed, naked, with us tonight, Ok???"
Megan was overjoyed. Finally she could have sex, and best of all she was going to live out her fantasy! She slid down the straps of her gown, revealing her young pillowy breasts.
"Very impressive, honey, your boobs are much bigger then mine were at your age. Come closer let Mommy see" said Beth. Megan obeyed and walked over to her mother. The site of his daughters beautiful tits had gotten Brett off and he slowly began to stroke his rod. Megan looked at her mother as she played with Megans breats, squeezing them and teasing her nipples. "Bend over, and let Mommy take off your underwear so I can see my little baby's pride and joy" Beth stated. Megan once again obeyed sliding the rest of her night gown down and the kicking it to the side so she was only wearing a little purple thong. Megan turned around, her ass facing her mother, and bent over and touched her toes. Her mom did what she promised sliding off the under garment with ease, exposing her daughter's tight asshole and puffy virgin vaginal lips. "Oh Brett, you were right her ass is just perfect. Oh honey I have got to tell you, your Daddy is dying to fuck that little ass of yours, and I am just dying to see it. Look at him, he is jackin off at the site of it!" Beth said with a laugh. Megan stood up and looked over at her father. A little half grin, half shocked expression crossed her face.
"Oooh don't worry honey, its ok, just let me finish" Brett moaned as he wanked harder and harder while leaning his back up against the head of the bed.
"Honey watch how Mommy is going to suck Daddy's dick. Now pay attention because your gonna be next ok?" said Beth. Megan nodded her head in approval as her mother stripped herself naked and slowly slid off her dads boxer. They were now all 3 naked. Her mom layed down flat on the bed and started at the tip of her dad's slong and slowly made her way up, deeper and deeper into her mouth. Then she ryhthmycally moved her mouth up and down his dick, when she was finished licking its head. "Now go over there and finish him off for mommy, ok? And don't forget to swallow" her Mom told Megan. Megan slowly crawled over to her sexually ailing father.
"Go ahead, baby, let me have it, don't be scared, this is just our little secret, now suck Daddy's fat dick for him, ok?" Brett coaxed as if Megan needed some reassuring. Megan engullfed the hard-on like a banana, fitting as much as she could in her little mouth to start with. She then worked her way down to the tip, and licked the head of her Dad's dick like a toddler tonguing a lolly-pop. "Oh gooood girl" he moaned. Meanwhile, Megan's mother had crawled on top of her back, feeling her baby girl's tits while she watched her suck her husband off. Then her little girl took the whole thing in her mouth, which caused her husband to erupt in Megan's mouth. "Oh shit" he moaned as he released his juices all over his little girl's mouth. Megan gulped down the cum like it was a delicious drink and smiled as she licked her lips of any excess drops.
"Oh such a good little girl to her daddy" her mother said as she complimented and stroked Megans back like a little dog who had just completed a trick, "I think our little girl deserves a reward, dont you Brett??"
"Oh definitly" Brett moaned after finally regaining his composure from the stunning orgasm his daughter had just envoked, "Here here, baby, come sit on Daddy's lap." Megan once again did as she was told and took her place on her father thighs. "Now spread your legs wide cause Mommy's gonna eat your pussy for you, ok??" her father said. Megan again obeyed excitedly spreading her legs wide, giving her mother easy access to her dampened puss.
"Get ready, baby, here I come" her mother abliged, as she crawled from the end of the bed to the head where her daughter was positioned. Megan moaned weekly as she felt her mother's moist tongue on her slit for the first time. It was unbelievable. Beth gave long strokes with her tongue across her daughter's tiny shaved pussy. Just when Megan thought it couldn't get any better, her father turned her head as far back as possible where he met her with a long passionate kiss and later unlocked the kiss and began feel up his daughters soft tits. She loved how her boobs were cupped perfectly in his hands while he used his thumbs to rub over her nipples. The pleasure soon turned into pain though after her father stuck his 8 1/2 incher deep into Megan's precious previously unharmed asshole. Megan immediately leaned over burying her precious face into her mother's ass and crying. The stick literally was tearing her asshole apart, but she grew to accept the pain and eventually as her asshole loosened, enjoyed it greatly. The moans of pain and tears quickly turned into screams of joy and chants of "YES"'s, "FUCK ME DADDY, DEEPER!"'s, "OH MY GOD"'s, "EAT MY PUSSY MOMMY, EAT IT, PLEASE!"'s, "HOLY SHIT!"'s, as well as many other ew's and ah's. After a few minutes of this she came like a rocket into her Mom's mouth.
She rolled off to the side, seemingly unconcious from her first stunning orgasm. When she regained her composure she said, "Oh my god, that was amazing! Thank you so much!"
But her Mom interrupted, "Oh no, your not done yet young lady, everyone has gotten off except for me so don't think your done yet! Now I want you to come over here in a doggy-style position so Daddy can take your virginity when he smacks your ass and hits your pussy from behind, while you eat Mommy's cunt until you make me cum. Do you understand me?"
"Oh yes mother! I understand completely!" Megan smiled. She did as she was told and stood doggy-style just below the head of the bed where her mother was sitting. Before Megan could say another word, her mother grabbed her by the back of the neck suddenly and buried her little baby girl's face into her pussy. Megan was a little stunned but went about returning her mother's earlier favor by eating her out. She placed her whole mouth over the gaping hole and pressed her tongue against it, licking between the same vaginal lips through which she entered the earth as a newborn. She loved it! Then she felt her father's firm hands grab her hips and felt as he slid his dick into her virgin pussy. Oh did it feel good. He started to slap her ass as he gripped her hips and pulled her back and forth sliding her pussy on and off his dick, in and out of her. She loved the sensation from getting spanked like the naughty girl she was being! She kept licking at her mothers pussy, changing pace and changing direction. She was fulfilling all of her wildest fantasy's in one spectacular night- sucking her Dad's dick, having her pussy eaten by her mom, seeing her mother naked, getting her tight ass loosened from a fucking in the ass by her father, eating her own mothers pussy, and on top of it all she was losing her virginity- doggy-style- to her own father! Just after all of these thoughts crossed her head she decided she would finish her Mom off and immediatly went for her clit. As planned, her mother did cum- all over Megan's face, and just seeing his wife cum all over his daughter sent Brett over the edge as he came inside Megan's pussy for the first time. Having the sensation of both of her parents cumming inside her at the same time sent Megan over the edge as well, and like a family, they all came together as one.
They all rolled over and let out deep breaths from their orgasms. When he regained his strength, Megan's father scooped up his beautiful naked and orgasmed buzzed little girl, like a baby in his arms, and placed her on her mother's lap just like he had done 100 times when she was an infant. Just as when she had done when she was a little baby being held in her Mommy's arms, Megan took her Mommy's nipple into her mouth and intently nursed on the warm milk all night until she fell asleep, just like a little baby girl. Tears of joy welled up in Beth's eyes, as she watched her little girl breast feed from her for the last time. It was to all of them the perfect ending to a spectacular night, Megan was breast feeding from her mother in her sleep while her parents watched with joy.
Hi, I'm back. This time to share with you the incest experience I had with my elder brother, Tim. I was 18 then. He was 22. Tim and I had a common bathroom attached to our rooms which we often used as shortcut to get into each others rooms. One night I was online, reading pornography. I got kind of excited , so took off my shorts and panties and started fingering myself while reading. Suddenly the bathroom door opened and Tim walked in and started asking me for something. A moment later he realized the position I was in. He was dumbfounded, maybe he didn't expect his baby sister to be like that. He kept staring at my open hairy pussy. A minute later he said, "What's all this Sandy?". I stuttered, "N-no nothing. You go!". He said, "You're horny aren't you? Have you ever fucked as yet?" I was scared. He could go tell mom and dad what I was doing. I said, "GO AWAY TIM! I'm not answering anything!" He smirked and said, "Oh yeah? I can report you, you know that!"
I sighed and said, "OK! What do you want to know?"
He smiled and asked, "Are you a virgin?"
"No."
"When was your first time?"
"3 yrs ago."
"What! WOW! You really are something. And all this while I used to lust you and never dared say anything thinking you are a kid!"
I said nothing, we kept glaring at each other, I with anger at him and he with a contended smile on his face. He went and sat on the sofa in the corner. "I want to fuck you."
"What!!!!!!", I said.
"You heard me sis. Let me or I go tell dad about you."
"But its not right Tim, you're my brother!!"
"C'mon, no one will ever know! We wont tell anyone. You got a damn sexy body sandy, and I got an 8incher for you. ALL FOR YOU", he had a lopsided grin on his face.
I was confused. While I was thinking what to do, he went and locked both the doors of my room, and took of his own shorts and produced a huge semi-hard cock. OOOOOOH! It looked so tempting!!!! I kept staring at it. Tim came closer and pulled me towards him. He held me tight and kissed me all over my face. His semi-hard cock was touching my thigh. It felt so good. DAMN! I gave in and put my arms around him. He kissed my lips fully and I reciprocated. He put his hands on my bare buttocks and while we kissed he squeezed my butt cheeks. Mmmmmmmmmmm. It felt so good! He kissed my cheeks, me ears, my neck and again my lips...all this while his hands moved all over my butt. He slowly let his hands inside my t-shirt. Wow. I felt all charged up. I could sense my pussy wetting. My wetness was rubbing against his hard rod. He moved his hand up and brought it forward and cupped my full breasts. Wow! He pinched my nipples. I gasped. He pulled it and wow it felt so wonderful. He quickly took off my top and threw it away and looked at my tits. They were a perfect round with light brown rock hard nipples in the center. He pushed me on the bed and came on top of me. He put my left nipple in his warm mouth and sucked it. He played with my right nipple using his hand. He alternated this from one tit to another. WOW! His warm mouth felt so good on my nipples! He moved downward tracing a line with his tongue. He reached my stomach and licked it all over. He licked my belly button and that really turned me on. I tried to push his head towards my pussy. But he was taking his own time. I looked down and I could see my tits and stomach shining with his saliva. It looked wonderful. Finally he reached my pussy and planted a kiss on the top of it. I shivered. I parted my legs to give him a good look inside. HE started licking and eating my pussy. He continuously avoided my clit. I started begging him to eat my clit. Finally his tongue touched me there and I exploded on his face. He came up and kissed me on my lips. I ate my own cum from his face. HE went down and started eating my pussy again. By now, I wanted him inside me desperately. I started begging but he kept eating me, stopping every time I was about to come. After some time, he got up and suddenly rammed his huge big cock inside my hungry pussy. He rammed me mercilessly until we both came together. HE lay on me tired. After some time, he started eating my tits again and fell asleep on me, with his rod inside me.
That was my first experience of incest and I loved it. Do mail me and tell me how you liked it. I'm available at kathleen_fent@slashdot.org. If you guys have been through incest, feel free to share your stories with me. Next I will tell you how Tim and his 2 other friends gang banged me; along with my other elder brother. It was quite an experience, I tell you. Well, that will come later of course . Till then, happy fucking!
I had the same dreams,a lthough not every night. For three months my fantasies haunted me. I'd abruptly awake and walk downstairs to get a glass of water while my desire for her pressed on my mind. I often wondered how much I could endure.
My eyes usually fixed on her curvatious ass as she scurried in the kitchen cooking breakfast. I thought about the situation many times, but could never let my lust for her get incredibly out-of -hand. When my daughter turned twelve years old,I suddenly wanted more in our relationship. Each day ticked on. Each month was like a tiny air bubble slowly rising. When would it burst,I often thought.
I'd slip into a daydream sometimes. I could clearly see her dark brown hair that flowed down to her shoulders. Her crystlline green eyes could hypnotize you. A perfect clear,milky complexion,tender thin lips,and slim figure could make any man want her. She was stikingly desirable.
Her breasts were small,yet a mouthful. At times,I'd catch a glimpse of her nipples silhouetted through thin material. Her sleek legs,supple,shapely. She sent my mind into a sexual whirl.
The wind raised a steady whoooo! Thunder rumbled frequently. Each peal was louder than the time before. A slight chill in the air seeped through the window panes as lightning blazed the night sky.
I slipped a video into the vcr,then sat on the couch in my robe,naked underneath. Cara came downstairs and cuddled next to me. When she realized what I was watching,the expression on her face was nothing less than surprise. She didn't speak a word. She quietly looked on.
She wore a dark blue sweat-shirt that pulled upward when she sat down. I'd catch a peek once in a while of her smooth legs.My cock soon grew hard.I couldn't understand why she watched the x-rated video with me,but glad she did.
I'd fantasize about her and I at times as I watched the action on screen and cuaght her lookind at my bulge for a small moment.My cock swelled to its fullest and started to pulsate.My face moved closer. I kissed her forehead and jittered inside. A state of uncertainty flooded my mind.Sometimes life doesn't work the way you think it should. Nothing was more true than that night.
She surprised me when her tongue flashed into my mouth. Sexual heat climbed within me. Her legs spread. My hand slid up her thigh in a leisurely manner. Another surprise. She had no panties on. I hand-brushed her fur as she reached down and pulled my stiff cock from under my robe. Our tongues broke away. I began to kiss her ear.
"Oh,Cara.I want to do it with you so bad."
"Me too,daddy.I want to suck your cock,feel you inside of me.I want to do it all with you.'
I rose slowly,then walked over to the vcr to shut it off.I slipped out of my robe and walked toward her as she lifted her shirt off. My cock bounced. My balls swayed.We smiled at each other for a brief moment. She moved to the edge of the couch and we smiled at each other for a brief moment.
Her legs parted. I landed on my knees to bury my face in her muff. My tomgue pushed through her hair. I licked her walls,then roamed her clit.I could hear her soft moan shortly afterwards,tasting her sweet juice.It was the sweetest I ever had. She wrapped her warm hands around my thick shaft when I stood.
"You have a nice big one,daddy."
Seven inches of hard cock to satisfy you with,sweetheart."
No other words were spoken. She opened wide and took me in her wet mouth up to my balls. Her soft lips slid freely up and down my pole. The tips of my fingers fondled her pink nipples until they were hard.
"Ah,yeah. Sucking daddy's cock good,baby.You're going to be a good lover."
It wasn't long after when she pulled off. Her tongue searched my knob, my slit. Then she cupped my rocks in her palms and engulfed them. Her hands glided on my ass as I watched.She broke away moments later and looked up at me.
"What's daddy want now?"
"Daddy would love to fuck you now,honey."
She slid back,leaned against the cushion and opened her legs. Her cunt looked delicious.I went down on my knees,kissed her inner thighs,then moved upward to capture her nipple in my hungry mouth. From left to right,I suckled until she issued moans of pleasure.
My desire heightened. Our breathing beacme heavier. My cock throbbed wildly. She mastubated me while I enjoyed the taste of her young nipples. My finger skied upward,downward between her cunt-lips.
"Oh,daddy.You do that so good.I'll give you anything you want.I want to do it all with you."
She lifted off the couch about half an inch and slowly rotated her hips for less than a minute.My lips travled upward to kiss her ear.Then I spoke in a low tone.
"Baby ready for daddy's cock?"
"I was ready five minutes ago,daddy."
I wasted no time.I settled gently on top of her smooth body. Every inch slipped into her hole,lubricated from my tongue and her inner wetness.Her love-canal kept me snug inside of her.
"Oh,yes.Daddy finally has his cock into his little girl's pussy. Daddy's going to give you a good first fuck."
"Your cock fells good,daddy.Keep it up."
My thickness continued to slide in and out of what was only moments ago,her sweet virgin hole.My hands slid under her ass. I lightly squeezed her cheeks together and could feel her pussy muscules thighten around my cock even more.
Wildly,I started to ram my dick into her hairy twat. My balls slapped her cheeks everytime I thrusted.Excitement peaked. Her moans were more audible as she held me close to her.
Band! Bang! Bang! Every inch of cock went up her honey-hole. She moaned loud. Real loud. I couldn't stop if I had to.
"Oh,baby! Oh,honey! Daddy's going to fill your little pussy with hot cum,baby! Here it is! Here it comes!"
"C'mon,daddy! Do it! My clit is on fire!"
I went in deep for the last time. Deep,deep inside of her,I shot the biggest load I ever did with anyone.
"Oh,Cara! Oh,yes! Yes! Daddy's shooting his load into his baby's pussy! Fucking cunt feels so good!"
"Oh,oh,oh! Oh,daddy! Oh,God! I'm going to climax!"
Warm cum gushed up her hole for the very first time. Excitement rushed through my body. The thought alone of fucking my own daughter lended even more sexual excitement to the matter.
Heavy breathing calmed to normal. I slid my semi-hard cock out of her pussy. We kissed briefly.
"Daddy loves this cunt.You are so sweet."
"Mmmmmmm.You did it to me good,daddy.I love you."
"I love you too,baby."
Ever since that first time,we've been sleeping togehter in the same bed. Cara's thirteen now.She's sexually better than ever. What a sweet daughter I have.
I'm still not sure how it all happened. It started off as just another summer weekend. My mother had kept me busy all day moving furniture and cleaning up around the house. It was the end of a long hot summer and I wouldn't have to go back to school for another six weeks. I was starting my senior year in high school that year. While dressed only in an old pair of cut-off jean shorts, I worked laboriously in the stifling heat. Mom was wearing navy-blue shorts and a white blouse tied off at her mid-riff, revealing just a glimpse of her slim waistline. Her long brown hair was tied back in a pony-tail with one of those brightly colored elastic bands that she favored so much.
Mom was a real knock-out. She could have easily passed as a model, even at her age of 39. She had the figure that younger women would have killed for. Her breasts were large, but not obscenely so. Her eyes are light blue and her long body waved brown hair reached down to just below her waist. She was 5'10", only two inches shorter than I, and had long slender legs to match.
Mom walked into the living room just as I was finishing moving the couch to a new location. She watched me silently for a few moments as I grunted and strained and finally accomplished my goal, although not without completely drenching myself in sweat. The whole time my mother was strangely silent. Finally she spoke.
"You know Eric, you're turning into quite a man. I can't believe you handled that couch all by yourself. I hadn't really noticed how muscular you are until now. Have you been working out?"
"Yah, some of the guys and I lift weights after school. It's no big deal."
"Okay...So. Why don't you go upstairs and get a shower. Since dad is out of town, I don't I'll think cook dinner. I was thinking I would just phone out for a pizza. How does that sound?"
"That sounds great!" While upstairs taking my shower, I kept thinking about the way mom had admired and praised my body. In one way it felt weird and little uncomfortable, but in another way it was an amazing turn-on. It may sound odd, but I had never really thought of my mother as a woman before. To me she was just mom. But now thinking about her reaction to me, I realized I was really attracted to her physically as a woman. Who wouldn't be? I had a raging hard-on, so I soaped it up, and started stroking it. I was just about to get my rocks off, when there was a knock at the bathroom door. "Hurry up in there son, the pizza is here and its going to get cold unless you get out of there in this century." I quickly rinsed off and got out and dried myself off. I then realized that I forgot my clothes in my room. Grabbing a terry-cloth robe, I wrapped myself and started to tie it off as I quickly headed out the bathroom door. I almost ran over top of mom in the process. She was standing just outside the door apparently about to knock on the door again.
"Oh, I'm sorry mom. I didn't know you were there."
"It's all right, I'm not hurt. Never mind getting dressed, Eric. Just come on downstairs and eat."
I couldn't be sure but I thought that my chance collision with mom had given her momentary glance at my stiff rod before I had finished tying my robe close. If she did, she didn't mention it. We went downstairs and ate our pizza and made a lot of small talk in the process. Finally I decided to ask about dad.
"When's dad coming back from his business trip, mom?"
"Monday evening, hon."
"Missed him?"
"You bet! He's been gone for a whole two weeks." She smiled mischievously. "In fact I went shopping for him yesterday. He's going to be really surprised."
"What did you buy, mom?"
"Never mind, son. I shouldn't have mentioned it."
"Come on, mom. You can tell me."
"It's an adult thing Eric. I shouldn't have said anything."
"Hey! I'm an adult too you know. I am almost 18."
Once again mom was uncharacteristically quiet. Finally she sighed and replied, "You know, Eric, you're right. You are an adult. I guess there is no reason you shouldn't know. I bought a sexy nightgown and few accessories to go with it. Your dad will really get a kick out of it."
"Wow, cool! I don't guess you would be willing to show it to me." What I had meant was for her to show me the stuff. But from the way mom flushed and turned red, I knew that she took my meaning that I wanted her to try the stuff on and model it for me.
"I can't do that, Eric! I'm your mother." I knew that I was on dangerous ground, but now that the thought was planted the temptation was too much and I decided to be bold. I guess it was the thought of seeing my mom in a revealing way that emboldened me or maybe it was my heightened state of arousal. Whatever it was, I had visions in my head of one my greatest fantasies coming true, and I just couldn't let it stop here without another try.
"Ah come on mom. It's no big deal. Nobody's going to know and you probably would like to get my opinion anyway. What are you afraid of anyway?"
Once again there was a long pause. I'm not sure what was going through her mind but clearly she was struggling with some inner reservations. Finally she responded, not in her usual self-assured manner, but rather timidly.
"Well, I suppose it couldn't really hurt anything to let you see. Wait here and I'll call you up to the bedroom when I'm dressed."
I could hardly believe my ears! I was going to get to see my gorgeous mother in a way I could have only dreamed of before. I had an almost instantaneous erection. I had to shift around in my chair as she left the room so she wouldn't see it. My heart was beating furiously and it seemed like forever before she called me upstairs.
"Okay, Eric. Come on up..." As I entered my parents' bedroom, mom said from the bathroom:
"I'm almost ready, I just wanted to fix my make-up and hair so you can see the whole effect of what dad is going to see. Why don't you sit on the bed. I'll be out in just a second."
As I sat there waiting, the tension and excitement in the air was intense -- or so it seemed to me. I wasn't sure what mom was feeling. I fully expected to get nothing more then a brief moment of a titillation and then excuse myself to bathroom where I could finish jacking-off. I was now extremely hard and I felt the almost desperate need for satisfaction. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity, I heard mom call out from the bathroom.
"Are you ready? Prepare yourself for a new view of your old mom." Out stepped mom and what I saw was much better than my wildest dreams! I was literally stunned at the transformation. Mom looked truly beautiful. She obviously had applied her makeup with great skill, her eyes were seductively done with a light blue shadowing effect and her lipstick was a contrasting bright cherry red. She was wearing a sheer light blue nearly transparent top that came down to just below her waist line. Underneath it was a lacy blue push-up silk bra that just barely covered her nipples. It cupped her big breasts firmly up together to reveal an astonishing view of her cleavage. Her panties matched her bra, and were very frilly in the front. She had on a dark- blue garter belt to hold up a sheer pair of black silk stockings. The final contribution to this wardrobe was a pair of blue spiked high-heel shoes that matched the color of the outfit. She had also let down her brown hair and it flowed over back. She spun around once or twice and then smiled in my direction. Gone was any sign of timidity on mom's part. She was clearly pleased with herself and even more pleased with the effect she was having on me.
"Well. What do you think?" I could barely breathe much less talk. But somehow I managed to stammer out my appreciation of what I was seeing. Mom seemed genuinely grateful for my reaction. I could tell she was really enjoying this little show. She would look at herself in the mirror as she turned first one way than another. All the while she would ask me questions about what, I thought. She asked me if the make-up was too much and if the shoes were overdoing it, etc. I was too busy staring to give very meaningful replies. Finally sensing the profound effect she was having on me she turned and looked me straight in the eye and with an amused smile she said:
"Eric, am I turning you on?"
"Uh...Uh...Mom I...I...I don't know what to say. I'm sorry if I am upsetting You. I don't mean any harm."
"It's okay son. It's actually quite flattering. I'm pretty sure what you are experiencing is quite normal."
She glanced at the now obvious bulge under my robe and with a gleam in her eye that almost matched her diamond stud earrings, she chuckled and said:
"Yes, I was right Eric. You are turning into a man." Then she turned back to mirror a moment more as if considering her next action and then turned back to look at me with a new strange look in her eyes. This was a look I had never seen from her before.
"Eric, I've been a little bit naughty and satisfied your wish to let you see me this way. Now it's your turn to do something for me. Since, I am after all a woman there are a couple of questions I want to ask you, not so much as a mother, but more as a woman to a man."
"Okay, mom. What do you want to know?"
"Tell me the truth now. Have you slept with any of your girlfriends?"
"Well...uhhh...Yah...Linda, and I have done it."
"I suspected that you were, but I didn't know how to ask you that until now. I'm glad you are being honest with me about this."
Mom again hesitated, as if she was building up her courage to ask me something else. Her eyes darted briefly down to the now obvious bulge in my robe before meeting my own awkward stare again. She was speaking softly and hesitantly as if she wasn't sure of herself.
"Eric, since, we are both being bold here, there is something else I want to ask you if you don't mind."
"What mom?"
"Well...If you are so turned on, does that mean that you are going to... uhhh,... are you going to...I guess what I want to know is are you going to masturbate?"
I answered her shame-facedly with my face blushing crimson.
"Yes..."
"I see. And I guess you will be thinking about my body, won't you?"
"Yes." I answered hoarsely and hung my head in shame. "It's alright, son. I can assure you that it is normal for young boys to have sexual fantasies about their mothers. It's not alright though for mothers and sons to act out on those fantasies. Do you understand, son?"
"Yes, mom."
"Good. Still, you should understand that mothers are women and we have sexual fantasies also. Do you know what I am talking about?"
"Uh, sort of...but not exactly, mom."
"This is going to sound a little bit naughty, but I really don't mean anything bad. Its just that I kind of always had this, ah you know, silly fantasy. I hope you want think badly of me but I want to...that is to say this fantasy is...Oh, never mind I can't ask you to do that."
"What, mom? It's okay. After what you just did for me I owe you the favor."
"Well this may sound a little ridiculous. You'll never believe this but I have actually never seen a man masturbate. If your father does it, he does it in private. I've always been really curious about that. Will you show me how you do it?"
I stood up, untied my robe and let it fall to the floor. Mom gasped...
"My lord! It's so big!" Then I sat back down on the bed, dressed only in my birthday suit, and began to slowly stroke my hard-on. Mom stared in fascination and inched nearer so she could see more closely what I was doing. Her face and chest became flushed and her breathing became more labored. Clearly mom was highly aroused by what she was seeing. Then, a surprising thing happened, she started subconsciously rubbing her crotch ever so slightly with her right hand. When she realized what she was doing, she started to pull her hand back.
"It's okay mom, you don't have to stop. I don't mind." In a flash her hand shot back to her crotch and she started to slowly rub herself with her right hand. With a flushed face, she paused for a moment to pull her lace top over her head and tossed it aside.
"It's getting hot in here." She said, apologetically.
Then with a slightly embarrassed smile she said in a wavering voice, "I guess we are both a little bit in heat." She continued to rub her pussy with her right hand while her left hand stroked her nipples through the sheer cloth of her sexy bra. I was physically willing myself not to cum yet. I wanted this show to last as long as possible and it took all of my willpower to do so. Mom, was clearly approaching the edge and she craved more stimulation.
Setting aside any remaining reservations she must have had, she did something which absolutely astonished me. She got right next to me to get a real close view of my cock, then she hiked up one leg on the bed. Her panties were crotchless!!! I now had a clear view of my mother's cunt inches from my face. The swollen pink lips of her labia minora glistened with her juices. As I watched my mother reached down and spread her inner lips with her fingertips and plunged two fingers within her cunt Then she withdrew her freshly-lubricated fingers to rub her clit. As she did this I could see and smell the wonderful scent of the juices on her fingers and I noticed for the first time that her panties were likewise drenched. In fact, some of her juices were now running down the inside of one of her thighs and the scent of her arousal permeated the air.
That was all I could take. Throwing all caution to the winds, I reached over and gently placed a hand on each of her hips. Mom was so into friggin herself I don't think she even noticed. So I slid my hands down her side and grabbed her ass cheeks and then before she could do anything to stop me, I pulled her sopping cunt firmly into my face. She let out a cry of dismay and immediately began to struggle.
"No Eric! Stop! What are you doing?"
But I had gone too far to stop now, so I ignored her attempt to pull away and clenched tightly to her ass. My tongue forced it way between the folds her crotchless panties and found its way into her vaginal canal and for the first time I tasted of my mother's pussy juices. She shuddered, and gasped loudly, and her struggling weakened but by no means ceased. She still resisted and made a meager effort to pull away.
"Eric, *gasp*, you can't *gasp* do this! This isn't right...please stop!"
I held her ass cheeks firmly so that she couldn't pull away. Then my tongue found its way to her clit and the effect was almost as if an electric charge went through her body. She stiffened and arched her back, involuntarily shoving her womanhood tightly to my face. At the same moment she cried out loudly, almost screaming.
"Ooooh god!!!!...Oh god!!!...You mustn't do this." But her struggling faded in spite of her words, and the gasping and moaning that came forth from her was really surprising. I was so turned on now I was ready to explode, but not until I finished eating my mom's pussy.
Then she began to hump her hips in my face. She was fucking my face in the frenzy of a mad lust-craving woman. And the things that came out of my mother's mouth were beyond belief. I had never heard her say anything like it before.
"Oh, ughhhh... Oh god! It feels good!... Oh god! Yes, Eric... Ohhhh Yes!... Eat me son...lick it... yes... yes... oh god... Oh fuck me, fuck me, fuck me with your tongue, Eric..."
Then she started bucking her hips really hard and moaning really loud. I could tell she was starting to come. Then with a high pitched shriek she grabbed the back of my head and pulled my face really tight into her mound and held it there almost suffocating me while simultaneously shaking from her orgasmic frenzy.
Abruptly she pulled away from me and leaned against the wall opposite from where I sat on the bed. My face was covered with her juices. Her chest heaved in futile attempt to catch her breath and she stared at me as in apparent shocked disbelief. She had the wide-eyed look of a cornered animal. I silently watched her gorgeous breasts still trapped in the confines of the wire reinforced bra move in rhythm with her panting. As mom stared at me saying nothing her body trembled slightly. Her reaction, I think was partly from fear and partly from expectation of what might be coming next. Her stare was not so much at me as it was at my stiff male appendage. Standing up, I cautiously put a hand on her shoulder and said reassuringly.
"It's okay mom. I won't hurt you. Why don't you sit on the bed and rest a moment."
A look of intense relief crossed her face and she complied. I then looked down at my stiff prick and looking back at mom, who still had a worried look on her face.
"I still haven't kept up my end of the deal I'm afraid. So if you don't mind I really need to badly."
So, while mom watched in silent fascination, I stood up and once again began to stroke my hard tool. Mom watched intently as if it was of the greatest interest to her. Finally she looked up to me and said one word. It was the first thing she had spoken since she had screamed out in the throes of her orgasm and it came out as a horse croak.
"Closer, please." I immediately complied so that I was now pumping myself only inches from her face from her sitting position on the bed. Her hand came up trembling and she touched me as if I might burn her. I dropped my hands to my side and she began to softly stroke me slowly with a trembling hand. Pre-cum was leaking profusely from me now and she stared at it as if in a trance. My dick was at her eye level and only inches from her where she sat on the bed. In slow motion, as if in a dream, she leaned forward and tentatively licked the pre-cum from my head. Then as if fighting herself for control she hesitantly began to lick me like I was some kind of ice cream treat. Now it was my turn to moan and make noise.
"Oh shit! Yes...feels good...Oh yes, do it. Don't stop mom." This must have startled her because she immediately stopped and started to pull away again as if she had changed her mind.
"NO! Damn-it mom! Suck my dick, you bitch! You can't stop now!" I grabbed her by her hair and pulled her forward off the bed on to her knees. As if obeying my command, she immediately leaned forward and swallowed my cock to the hilt. Without further hesitation, she began to suck my dick in earnest. I grabbed a handful of her hair with both hands and began to slowly fuck mom's face while she applied suction. She sucked my dick like a pro and I watched in amazement as my shaft slid in and out of her beautiful face. She took me all the way to the back of her throat without gagging and let me pull almost all the way out and then back again. Obviously mom was no stranger to art of the blow-job. She was really good at it! She sure could have taught my girlfriend, Linda, a thing or two.
While mom was giving me head, I let my hands wander over and explore her lovely chest and shoulders. Soon I decided I wanted to see and play with her boobs, so I gingerly reached behind her back and felt for the fastener. Without slowing the thrust of my meat in and out of her mouth, I unsnapped her bra. It sprang off of her as if it was under tremendous pressure and suddenly mom's big tits were revealed in all their glory. Damn they were big! Her nipples were hard and poked out as an obvious sign of mom's current state of arousal. The sight of my nearly naked mother on her knees enthusiastically performing fellatio on me was nearly enough for me to climax right then, but I was determined to prolong this experience. Reaching down, I began to tweak and play with her nipples as best as I could from my position. Mom began to moan and gasp with my rock-hard dick in her mouth. She was talking to me with my cock in her mouth but it came out as only slurps and grunts.
"Ruggmm... *slurp*... mmrrrgh... *slurp*... feelgggggd!" She was obviously enjoying herself now and was again fingering her clit with her left hand while her right hand guided my shaft in and out of her lusting mouth. Pre-cum and saliva lathered around her ruby-red lips and ran down her chin and dripped onto her prominent chest. I was thrusting with force now and the squishing-slurping sound of each thrust was matched by her eager attempt to get as much of me as she could. In a matter of moments I could feel my eruption coming. I shot my first wad of hot cum in her mouth. Her mouth was quickly filled by the first spurt of my cum and it leaked out of the corners of her mouth. She must not have expected it so soon because she quickly began to struggle again and pushed me away. Just as I pulled out altogether, one more big spurt of my cream shot out and caught her in the face just to the left of her right eye. She just sat there panting a moment with my jism running down the side of her nose dripping onto her unconfined tits.
Neither one of us said anything. I helped her up off her knees. Mom sat on the bed; then she fell back from apparent exhaustion to catch her breath. I watched her prone form on the bed from where I stood looking down at her nearly naked form. Her legs, still clad in stockings, dangled over the side of the bed. Curiously her spiked high-heel shoes were still in place. My eyes traveled from her heaving cum-splattered face and tits down to her crotchless panties. Then, not unexpectantly, I was hard again.
I knew what I had to do now. Reaching down with both hands, I grabbed her panties on both sides and without waiting to see what her reaction would be, I ripped them off of her in one swift move. They tore off cleanly on the first try.
"Eric! Oh my God! What are you doing?"
"You know what I'm doing, mom. I'm going to fuck you."
"Eric. You can't do this, please. I'm your mother."
Mom was pleading with tears in her eyes, but it was too late things had gone too far. Rather than answer her, I reached down and grabbed her ankles and lifted them up in the air. I kneeled on the bed as I lifted her legs up and I was now looking straight down her gapping dripping wet hole. Mom was now dressed only in garters, silk stockings, and heels. God! Was that ever a turn on! In spite of her frantic struggling and crying, I knew I couldn't stop.
"Damn-it! Quit struggling, mom. You must have known that I would fuck you, when you sucked my dick like a cheap whore. You need this as bad as I do, so hold still."
In spite of her frantic struggling, I tightly held her ankles high in the air as I lowered myself between her legs I pushed her knees back until they touched her huge semen-covered breasts and flattened them against her chest. Her naked ass was thrust up and her slit was spread widely open before my eyes. The head of my throbbing cock lightly touched her slit. My glans slid back and forth rimming her pussy lips, teasing her clit. As mom struggled fruitlessly beneath me, I positioned myself and slowly slid the entire length of my meat into her. As her cunt lips spread to receive me, mom let out a loud gasp of astonishment and her tear-covered eyes went wide as if surprised. I started to ride her slowly. I enjoyed watching my dick thrust slowly in and out between her swollen pink inner-lips.
As I pushed deep, I bottomed against her hard cervix and withdrew almost completely. Then I really began pistoning in and out of mom's pulsating pussy. She was now apparently resigned to her fate, because her resistance faded dramatically. I let her ankles rest on my shoulders while I reached forward and started kneading her tits as I fucked her. I smeared the cum I had left on her tits all over her chest. Rather than fight me mom fucked me back expertly. In spite of an occasional sob and a constant flow of tears, I suspected mom was getting what she was secretly after all along. She was moaning, bucking, and thrashing and trying to push her cunt hard against me to get as much of me as she could. She wasn't as tight as my girlfriend Linda, but she more than made up for it in style. Mom obviously wasn't one to be passively screwed like Linda, she fucked me back like a wild animal in heat. The stream of profanity that suddenly came from my mother's mouth was both shocking and stimulating.
"Fuck me! Yes!... Fuck me good... God your dick feels good!"
"Fuck me!" she cried, as she started clawing at my back with her long painted nails and she started gently biting me on the neck in between her passionate exclamations. She hunched her cunt back at me to get as much penetration as she could. I knew that mom wanted as much as my cock as I could shove in her and I wanted badly to feel my semen squirting inside her hot box.
"Fuck me faster! Faster Eric. Shit! Oh fuck me...ride your mother. Slide your dick deep in me. Yes...yes...that's good. Rub my tits. Don't stop fucking me. Fuck my cunt with your big cock. Yes, please fuck me hard...."
Almost without warning, I shuddered and shot my load deep into my mother's cunt.
"Here it is mom, ughhh... take it in your pussy, you whore!" I was immediately a little embarrassed at calling my mother a whore, but she didn't seem to care. I had come much too soon for her though and I could see the look of frustration and near desperation on her face as I shot my jism deep into her cunt. She quickly repositioned herself by rolling me on my back. She turned around and straddled my face and leaned forward to give my limp penis a tentative lick. She looked back at me and smiled. as she lowered her hot cunt on my face.
"Eat me out, Eric. Eat mommy's cunt good." She leaned forward as she mounted my face and began to lick up her juices off of my prick. From my position, I could see my cum dripping out of my mother's wet hole as she lowered her cunt firmly to my face. I soon licked and sucked her dry. After a moment, she stopped sucking me and sat up erect to hump my face. I reached up and started twisting her nipples whenever she rode me too hard. Instead she just rode me harder thrashing and screaming.
"Yes, yes, yes! Eat your cum from your mother's pussy! Suck me dry you big dicked stud. Yes eat me good! Aghhhhh!... Ehhhh!... Aghhhh.... I'm coming. I'm coming...Oh shit! It's goooooooood..."
Once again she emitted a high-pitched shriek as she thrashed around in ecstasy. She rode my face like a rodeo star. She got up off my face, just in time, I was about to pass out from lack of air. She didn't look too concerned though. She just glanced down at my newly revived hard dick and with a big smile said:
"Fuck me again, stud. I want more." And without further remark, she rolled over on her stomach, pushed her ass high in air, while her face was in the pillows and her hands on the headboard for leverage. She then moved her knees apart and held her position. Her slit was enticingly facing me from where I lay on the bed. She obviously wanted me to ride her doggie style, but I had other ideas. Quite frankly, I was pissed off about the way she had rode my face savagely. Time to teach this slut another lesson I thought to myself. I rubbed my rigid tool against her juicy twat as I straddled her from behind. Mom, let out a sigh in expectation of vaginal penetration. But before she was entirely aware of what I was doing, I wrapped my arm around her waist and placed my dick-head at her tight brown hole. I took me several thrusts to get my meat all the way in her. Screaming and trying to escape her fate of a major ass-fucking, mom again struggled in my tight grip. She let out tiny screams of pain as I had pushed into her backdoor. Once I got my blood-engorged head past her resistant sphincter, I started fucking her in the ass slowly penetrating as deeply as I could.
"What's the matter, mom, you sleazy cock-sucking whore? Don't you want me to fuck you in the ass? I thought all bad little sluts want to have a big dick up their ass."
She didn't answer me. She only screamed, cried, and begged me to stop. I switched my grip from around her waist to putting a hand on the back of each shoulder and pulled them slightly toward me at the same time I pushed her face firmly down into the pillow as I slammed my groin into her backside. Shifting one hand to her long brown hair, I twisted it around my arm and jerked back her head as if it was a horses rein. Her screaming was now guttural and there was a distinctive whacking sound as each thrust made contact with her buttocks. I could feel my sack slap against her pussy lips with each thrust. I rammed my rod in and out of mom's tight asshole while she struggled and cried beneath me. It felt really good to have my mother skewered helplessly with my big cock up her ass to the hilt. I wasn't about to stop until I shot my wad deep in her. Once again resigned to her fate, mom's struggling slackened. She no longer resisted and only an occasional whimper revealed her reluctance to be butt-fucked. I was close to my climax and I was slamming her ass so hard that it was lifting her knees up off the bed. She was desperately pushing on the headboard with her hands to keep her head from banging against it. I could hear her growl like a beast as I pulled back on her hair while I fucked her tight brown hole. I exploded within her ass with one final viciously deep thrust that earned a final scream of pain.
"Ughh.... take it up your ass you sleazy slut...." I pulled out of her ass, leaving it momentarily gapping open with a trail of my sperm drizzling out. Mom, fell sideways and immediately began gasping for air and crying hysterically. I removed her shoes, stockings, and garter belt. I picked her up and carried her into the shower and let a stream of warm water wash the cum, sweat and tears off of her. Then getting in with her, I soaped up both of our bodies and with my hands I gently massaged and explored mom's body while we rinsed off. We both silently dried ourselves and then mom left the bathroom without a word and crawled under the covers of the bed still completely naked. Not knowing what else to do I turned off the light and quietly slipped into dad's side of the bed. I turned over on my side with my back to my mother and tried to go to sleep. After a short while, I felt mom snuggle up against me. Her arm went around me and I felt her warm breasts against my back and her breath against the back of my neck. She clung tightly to me. Our legs were intertwined and her bush was against my butt.
"Eric?... Do you love me.?"
"Yes, mom. I'm sorry if I hurt you... I guess I got carried away."
"Never mind, sweetie. We'll talk about it later. Just go to sleep." Then we both fell asleep, totally exhausted.
That night, I woke up on my back. My mother, still clad in nothing but bare skin, must have sensed me grow hard in my sleep. She was on top of me riding my erect member. I could hear the squishy sound of her wet pussy slide up and down my stiff shaft. What a vision to wake to! My dear mother with lust in her eyes fucking herself into a frenzy on my big dick. She had a hand on each of my shoulders while she slid up and down my length and her big tits bouncing inches from my eyes. Sleepily I began to suck alternately on my mother's nipples while she aggressively fucked me. Shortly, she was once again screaming and thrashing about in the throes of another orgasm. As I shot my meager load into her, I thought to myself, I'm really going to regret it when my dad comes home. It occurred to me that since I was fucking dad's number one pussy, maybe I could get in on dad's other action. His young office manger, Debbie was indeed a fine looking piece of ass. She was married of course, but then so was mom, and Debbie's marital status sure didn't stop dad from pumping the little slut full of his cum. I bet she's a screamer like mom, I thought blissfully as my big breasted mother lay on top of me with my meat stuffed deep in her. And of course, there was always my girlfriend Linda also...and hell, there's that sexy woman next door, Mrs. Johnson. If I can fuck mom, than I might as well bang our neighbor when that flat slob her husband wasn't around. With these ideas in mind a secret smile crossed my lips. Mom mistook it for her and smiled back at me. That's it mom, I thought, you go ahead and enjoy my dick in you until dad gets back, then we will just have to find a substitute won't we.
Mom continued to pump even though I was done. Finally she arched her back and jutted her nipples in the air as another monster orgasm shook her. But after her shaking and gasping had subsided she continued to slide up and down my pole ever so slowly. Oh shit! She's going for another one. This horny slut is going to fuck me to death!!!
Re, could this be living proof of the evolutionary path that aquatic creatures took to make it to land...?
...many millions (billions) of years ago...
It's live wiggling proof that intermediate forms exist. An argument sometimes used against Darwinian evolution is that something in between species A and B couldn't compete with the fully functional A creatures now in their prime, nor would it yet have the equipment needed to be a successful B. But this guy looks like he's succeeding quite well as A fish that's Becoming amphibious (given a few tens of millions of years). If that's possible now, why not in the past as well?
Re,
Geologic time on a short page
Geologic time on a long page
Links to a lot of geological time charts
This site Precambrian Earth is a red hot mix of geology (from a lot longer ago than our amphibious ancestors) and what might be religion.
the pic itself is a little hard to find, you can see this less-excitingly-dangerous-looking-than-blurb-leads -you-too-believe fish here.
Mod me down, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
...possessing a live snakehead is illegal in 13 states. Virginia, Maryland, and the District of Columbia are not among them... (from the article linked above by pamri)
The big question is, with the level of ugly on that guy, who would WANT to keep one? Live or otherwise. It don't look like good eatin' either.
Looks about 2 pounds. Not bad for a buck.
Yeah, I'll say it's scary. According to the pictures, that fish is carrying cold hard cash -- as well as a recent issue of The Sunday Capital. Could this be the world's first upwardly mobile aquatic lifeform?
We've had those ever since Washington DC was created... though we typically refer to them as Politicians.
*rimshot*
Shouldn't this one be listed in "The Almighty Buck"??
Candygram.
There is absolutely nothing to worry about. It won't get very far on a dolar..
I am a Karma Library.
IT has been asked by the opponents of such views as I hold, how, for instance, could a land carnivorous animal have been converted into one with aquatic habits; for how could the animal in its transitional state have subsisted? It would be easy to show that there now exist carnivorous animals presenting close intermediate grades from strictly terrestrial to aquatic habits; and as each exists by a struggle for life, it is clear that each must be well adapted to its place in nature. Look at the Mustela vision of North America, which has webbed feet, and which resembles an otter in its fur, short legs, and form of tail. During the summer this animal dives for and preys on fish, but during the long winter it leaves the frozen waters, and preys, like other pole-cats, on mice and land animals. If a different case had been taken, and it had been asked how an insectivorous quadruped could possibly have been converted into a flying bat, the question would have been far more difficult to answer. Yet I think such difficulties have little weight.
Here, as on other occasions, I lie under a heavy disadvantage, for, out of the many striking cases which I have collected, I can only give one or two instances of transitional habits and structures in allied species; and of diversified habits, either constant or occasional, in the same species. And it seems to me that nothing less than a long list of such cases is sufficient to lessen the difficulty in any particular case like that of the bat.
- The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, Ch. VI: Difficulties of the Theory
- Tal Cohen
Few days ago, fisherman catched a 3Kg piranha in southern germany. Day before that Kaiman turtle was cought. They both are predators.
They both are from south-america, and what were they doing in europe? Well it seems that someone released their pets...
There's a similar fish (probably in the same genus) native to Texas called the Bowfin that looks very much like a snakehead and can also survive for extended periods of time out of the water, wallowing across the ground to the closest source of water.
Two fish in a tank, one says to the other: "How do you drive this thing?"
MMMMM... Anchovy street pizza.
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but how many bars do sell nails? Just because the bar does not sell nails does not mean the bar does not have nails (and other tools).
cpeterso
Oh my god. My dad caught one of these at our camp on Lake Huron last year, maybe 2 years ago (I'd have to ask, I don't remember when). When my dad netted it, the fish "growled" at us angrily all the way from the netting in the boat until we killed it back at camp. It was genuinely scary. The fish was out of water for like half an hour and didn't die. We noticed its front fins on the bottom were almost like little hard stubs. We looked it up in my mom's fish book (she's into fish and aquariums and all that) and the closest thing we found was a Bowfin. But my mom disagreed, since the match didn't seem to have the right head shape.
Anyway, it was greasy, but pretty good.
I'm not making this up. This news thing makes it even creepier. Jeezus.
Zoober
This is pretty clearly a unique species; so what did it evolve from, and what is it evolving into? Same question goes for the duck-billed platypus.
Just because a creature challenges preconceived notions of what habitat it's in doesn't mean it's transitional between creatures living in a subset of its possible habitats.
Story telling isn't science, it's just more fairy tales just like the rest of evolution.
*this* fish might need a bicycle
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Its the old landshark routine from...
Oh hell, never mind. The kids around here lack any kind of historical perspective and think of "Madonna" as a historical figure, and mod accordingly.
Morons.
On this mere quote, alone, I now find myself, finally, moved to read Darwin's works.
Not only a fine scientist, apparently, the man was a fine and amusing author, as well!
Off to my library I fly!
Whoosh!
(not a joke. I fully intend to read his stuff. It was best seller material when it came out THEN, so it should prove readable to us, now, fairly easily)
Brak: What's THAT?
Thundercleese: A light switch.. of TOTAL DEVASTATION!
Climates like Florida have been afflicted with a similar species of fish. The just wiggled out of their pond and down the road to the river, where they wreaked havoc on the ecosystem. Likewise for water hyacinths, toads and giant snails. There's a long list: Rabbits and starlings in Australia, Cats and rats in New Zealand, Variola in the Americas.
As space travel becomes more of a reality, this becomes more of a serious issue. If we wipe out some species on another planet, that is not good and some here may actually care, but none are forced to care. If we bring something home, then we are forced to care.
Beta is broken and the link to classic doesn't work. Stop wasting our time or there won't be anybody left here.
Sorry if this is a duplicate post. Caffeine hasn't it made it to my fingers yet. Anyway, I remember reading about something similar happening in East Texas years ago. I dunno if I buy the report I read or not tho. The story talked about the fish stalking small dogs. Oh well, I suppose this means you go fising in your lawn now.
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> An argument sometimes used against Darwinian evolution is that something in between species A and B couldn't compete with the fully functional A creatures now in their prime, nor would it yet have the equipment needed to be a successful B.
And its one of the more egregiously bad arguments offered by a group already well known for offering bad arguments, since even preschoolers know about whales, seals, walruses, otters, beavers, and a bunch of other "acquatic mammals" living various shades of intermediate lifestyles. (And of course everyone's favorite intermediate form, penguins.)
This indicates that the primary fault of creationists isn't mere ignorance, but rather an underlying unwillingness to think.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I have noticed a trend in the news this week on vicious fresh water creatures invading the waterways of foreign countries. Germany has been the victim of two of these recent 'invasions': a two foot long piranha, and a nearly one metre long North American snapping turtle. (Ironically, I think a 32" snapping turtle would be the ideal 'solution' to the snakehead, since if it can bite off a human arm it sould easily bite one of these in two. Also, the ability to go on land wouldn't keep it safe from the snapping turtle, though I am curious as to which can travel faster on land.
Please people, the next time your pet outgrows its aquarium, think before you release it into the wild.
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Not only can these fish walk, you can clearly see from the pictures they can buy newspapers too. But do they taste better than American fish?
Shouldn't you explode like a robot in a movie, when it gets caught in a logical contradiction?
They were in a huge tank, amongst other huge tanks in the basement of his house. The filter broke. (they chewed it up). They survived. Then the heater broke. (They smashed it) They survived.. (One of them was swimming around with a two inch piece of glass deeply imbedded in its head for several months). THese things are particularly nasty fish.. the only nastier ones I have ever seen were another friends pair of alligator gar's..one of these lovelys bit off half a cats paw because the cat wouldnt stop messing about with the tank. even pirhanas are mild unless they are in packs.. these arent.
.. another one you might be aquainted with is the Betta Splendens.. (the ones all the secretarys have in the little lilly bowl these days). They have gills AND a diahram and lungs.. and they can breathe off the surface just fine, which is why you can keep em in a little bowl. Arowannas are another one.. those huge dragon looking fish that oriental restaurants usually have swimming around in their tanks.
These are known as "lungfishes"(I think.. either that or labyrinth fishes.. but I dont have my huge aquaria reference here with me)
Any and ALL of these fish, if released in most of the US, can survive quite fine, and do a *lot* of damage in the wild.. especially because people usually have a mix of sexes when they get tired and dump them. THey may not breed in captivity, but in a pond with a nice ecosystem they may breed like bunnies!
We just had four alligators found in a creek up here, in rural PA. I really wish people would think before they dump stuff in the woods.
Maeryk
Whether or not you agree with Darwin on the subject of evolution, he's entertaining and educational.
No need to go so far as the library. You can find his books here.
The bartender is not so cruel, but he does get impatient.
On the fourth day, the fish goes up to the bar, asking for fish food again. Bartender says, "look, this is a bar. We sell liquor. What ever gave you the idea you could get fish food here?"
The fish replies, "I thought my best bet would be to go to the same place that Mr. Higgenbotham over there goes. Someone told me his eating habits were the same as mine."
The bartender says, "Mr. Higgenbotham? He's just an old lush. He comes in here every night and gets sloshed."
The fish looks at the bartender, looks at Mr. Higgenbotham, then looks back at the bartender. Then he slaps his fin against his forehead. "Oh, THAT'S what that meant!"
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My one question is, do they taste good? In my experience, the slimiest, nastiest looking fish are always the most delicious. For example catfish, and eel. Mmmm. These critters definitely fall into the slimy and nasty looking category. If they really taste good that might solve the problem, as we are very talented at harvesting to extinction anything that gives us happy tummy.
Light cup, beer drink, thin so chain, neck turtle fat, man I won't say it again
"unwillingness to think". Hmmm. I'm a creationist and I like to think. Do you ever think about abiogenesis and how it could happen? Consider this - take the twenty amino acids, figure the smallest life form theorized has 256 proteins (the smallest count in a known organism is roughly 400). The average length of those 256 proteins is 445 amino acids. Since bacteria have under 8% glycine (the only non-chiral amino acid), that leaves about 410 amino acids that are chiral in the average protein in bacteria.
To get the correct chirality by random chance for just one protein is one chance in 2^410 or more than 10^123. That doesn't even consider the all-important sequencing of those proteins, nor folding them properly, nor the environment they're in (for example, water causes proteins to dissociate, not to polymerize).
There are only 10^78 (estimates I've seen range from 10^62 to 10^78) atoms in the universe. The universe has been around (based on 18 billion years) for less than 10^18 seconds. So even making one protein per each atom in the universe per second for the lifetime of the universe still gives bad odds for the correct chirality of one protein (one in 10^27).
Once you stop and think, the odds of life arising are tiny enough to be equivalent to impossible. It takes a lot more faith to believe in molecules to man evolution than to believe in the Bible.
The chances of all the basic building blocks of the simplest living creature magically coming together in one place might be low, but if you allow for self-replicating proteins as a stepping stone to "life" then that condition is not necessary.
It may be possible to get to something resembling a living creature through successive iterations and mutations of a "not-life" protein. These can happen very, very fast and are completely directed (in the sense that they are non-random, as you proposed).
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
They haven't arrived here yet. As a life long East Texas resident and a professional aquarist I would have heard if some fool had introduced them here.
"The moment "pride" is lost, "freedom" is also lost." - Ramza.
Fish orders himself a beer, drinks it, gets up to leave.
He asks the bartender "How much do I owe?"
"Ten bucks"
The fish does a little double take, but pays up. While he's paying, the bartender leans over and says, "You know, we don't see too many walking fish coming in here."
The fish says, "At thes prices you won't see too many more."
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The odds are not just low, they are flat out impossible. 10^50 is considered a mathematical equivalent of impossible, and 10^123 is way beyond that.
So your way of getting around impossible is to suggest "allow for self-replicating proteins". If the protein is just 51 amino acids (considered too small for the smallest bound of 60 for a protein, but it is the final size of insulin which starts out bigger as proinsulin), with 3 glycines (insulin's amount of them), you have 2^48 odds or 10^14 odds of getting just the chirality correct. To get a specific 51-acid chain you would have odds of one in 20^51 (ignoring chirality) or one in more than 10^66. So even if you say there were a million billion (10^15) possible 51-amino acid proteins that were self-replicating, you'd still be at worse than one in 10^50 odds to get any one of them to ever exist. And 10^50 is defined as impossible. And all that is assuming very favorable conditions - i.e., only amino acids bond to the forming chain, only the 20 common ones for life get involved (there are an awful lot of other amino acids in the world, just not in life), ignoring that this is happening in water where the energy gradient is against the hydrolysis involved in peptide chain building.
And if there were a self-replicating protein, what would prevent it from continuing to exist today? Where is it?
And if gradual evolution is to be accepted, why are there no 2-5 cell creatures - why unicellular and many-cellular, no few-cellular? Surely it would be adaptive to have a bicellular organism with one able to work in acid, one in base, and the inactive one goes dormant during its non-advantageous state (myriad other examples are simple to imagine).
Science is not about "might be". It's about facts. And a simple fact is that unless the "self-replicating protein" were near-perfect in replicative abilities, it would not be able to accurately reproduce itself. And simple entropic principles would lead to its degradation into simpler parts.
You state that a nonliving protein is "completely directed". By what?
All of your points are excellent. It is obvious that I do not have the background in biochemistry necessary to carry this on in the fashion you would prefer.
You state that a nonliving protein is "completely directed". By what?
There were only two, small points I wanted to make. You proposed that the odds of life spontaneously generating are one chance in 2^410 or more than 10^123 . All I was saying is that that's only if you are calculating with totally independent events.
As soon as you throw in the possibility of a self-replicating protein of significantly smaller size then the chances get down to 10^50 according to you. This is already significantly more possible.
Finally, once you have a self-replicating molecule the chances of there being mutations in the replicating process leading to other, shall we say, interesting developments are much higher than any one thing happening as if by magic (ie as a one 10^123 chance).
The "completely directed" means directed towards replicating, creating more, becoming more life-like, as opposed to a bunch of building blocks randomly bumping into each other in a primordial alphabet soup.
And if gradual evolution is to be accepted, why are there no 2-5 cell creatures - why unicellular and many-cellular, no few-cellular? Surely it would be adaptive to have a bicellular organism with one able to work in acid, one in base, and the inactive one goes dormant during its non-advantageous state (myriad other examples are simple to imagine).
This is a strange argument. Why does evolution need to go through every possible state to get where we are? In any case, we are constantly finding new species. (Wasn't a new species of deer just discovered in China or something? A big, mammal walking around under our noses for 5000 recorded years and we've never catalogued it.) Just because we haven't uncovered an entire fauna of low-cellular creatures doesn't mean they are not out there.
I'm not saying your belief in creationism is wrong, I'm just saying that there might be some ramifications you may want to make in your arguments if you'd like to be more effective. All of your data about the possibility of a bunch of AA's coming together and making life in one fell swoop don't mean anything if that's not the expected path of it happening. You didn't give any mention of the possibility of catastrophes (asteroids, volcanoes, etc) injecting energy into the system, for example. A lot can happen over millions of years, and the whole idea is that something has to happen just once and stick in order for there to be life. Just handwaving and saying the "possibility for life being created in the particular fashion I've described is so low as to be preposterous that it's proof of God" is not sound.
I find your attempt to educate me about "science" amusing as you are taking the position of someone who is attempting to defend a theory based in mythology versus someone who is attempting to help your credibility. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with creationism per se, it's interesting, it's just that it's very hard to recreate, and having theories about things that are very difficult to reproduce or that do not imply much tangible is more akin to philosophy than anything else. Evolution, on the other hand, makes specific predictions about the nature of life. These are testable. People have theorized that evolution can account for the generation of more complicated life from simple beginnings. This is testable, and is being tested right now. Creationism is a done deal. It's over. You either believe it or you don't and it's extremely difficult to collect "evidence" for it. This makes it a difficult theory for a scientist to stand behind.
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
A clarification: you blurred the point I was making. A real protein (like 445 AA's on average in a small unicellular organism) has odds of getting just the chirality correct of less than one in 10^123. Then to give all possible odds to a self-replicator, I took an absurdly small 51-AA peptide as an example, and showed it was worse than one in 10^66 to happen. The hypothetical self-replicator is still vastly unlikely.
The old saw of adding energy providing a way around randomness failing is not too awfully useful. The Japanese Navy added a lot of energy to the battleships in Pearl Harbor, and not much other than increased entropy and tragedy resulted. What new ordering of information came from that? There are even more convincing arguments, such as no one has conceived of a way to produce the sulfur containing AA's (cys, met). And just chirality alone has never been explained. Until simple points like that are answered, the idea that life arose spontaneously is about as scientific as saying the moon is made of cheese because it looks from here like it has holes.
With the exception of designed collectors (chlorophyll, solar cells) the Sun's energy is also most often destructive. Leave your car in the sun for a couple of decades and see what the paint looks like.
Evolution makes a number of predictions which have been found to be dead wrong. Like the Miller-Urey experiments. Like the computer simulation done in the 60's (at Stanford I think) which showed the dominant survival of not the fittest organisms.
On the other hand the Bible has made prophecies over millennia that have been proven true. For example, the book of Isaiah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 125BC had predictions about Jesus that were absolutely correct. Daniel predicted to the day when Jesus would enter Jerusalem. The book of Job (probably the first book written in the Bible) talks about dinosaurs (not by that name, that word was coined in 1841, the KJV was translated in 1611), the hydrologic cycle, and other facts unknown until very recently.
> The odds are not just low, they are flat out impossible. 10^50 is considered a mathematical equivalent of impossible, and 10^123 is way beyond that.
No, p=0 is the mathematical equivalent of impossible, and there is no concept of "way beyond" impossible. You're just spouting creationist bunkum.
I know it's pointless trying to convince you, but if any lurkers are reading this and haven't thought it out before, consider what happens when you shuffle a deck of cards and then examine the resulting order. The probablility of getting that order is 1/52!, AKA 1/10^68. Clearly, 1/10^68 is not "impossible", because it happens every time someone shuffles a deck of cards.
Want "way beyond" impossible? Just add more cards. Two decks gives 1/10^167. Three gives 1/10^276. Tell me how impossible you want it, and I'll tell you how many decks of cards you need.
Unless you want p=0, which can't be done by cards - by definition.
Scientists do not posit that the first self-replicator came about via random chance, any more than a chemist reckons that it is random chance that delivers NaCl + HOH when you mix HCl + NaOH in a beaker. The universe is not a random assemblage of matter and energy; there are all manner of laws and forces that make some conformations enormously more likely than others.
Without knowing what the first self-replicator was and by what pathway it arose, your probability calculations are just numbers pulled out of your ass.
> And if there were a self-replicating protein, what would prevent it from continuing to exist today?
A planet full of life that eats proteins? An oxygen-based atmosphere? (What was I saying earlier about creationists and thinking?)
> And if gradual evolution is to be accepted, why are there no 2-5 cell creatures - why unicellular and many-cellular, no few-cellular?
Assuming this claim is even correct, what's the problem? Some cells stick together as colonies and others don't - why should we require some to stick together in colonies of an arbitrary size? Multi-cellular life is thought to have arisen via cell specialization in multicellular colonies. It's a silly parody of evolution of the theory of evolution to claim that a life form with n+1 cells arose from a lifeform with n cells, and that all the lifeforms of sizes {1, 2,
Also, large modern multicellular creatures don't have any difficulty bootstrapping themselves up from a single cell without leaving 2-5 cell intermediates lying about. Why should evolution have any difficulty doing the same thing?
> Science is not about "might be". It's about facts.
Actually, science is about providing the best possible explanation for the evidence currently at hand. When there's insufficient evidence bearing on a topic they sometimes have to rely on conjectures, or even "we don't know".
> And a simple fact is that unless the "self-replicating protein" were near-perfect in replicative abilities, it would not be able to accurately reproduce itself.
Actually, an imperfect replicator is exactly what we are looking for. Evolution doesn't happen to perfect replicators.
Also, speaking of "the" replicator may lend to misconceptions, since "the" replicator may have been a cycle of reactions involving multiple "agents". I.e., at the earliest stages of proto-life we may be looking at mixtures of reagents rather than individuals.
> And simple entropic principles would lead to its degradation into simpler parts.
Care to show the math on your entropy calculations?
Lurkers take note: creationists are tres fond of invoking entropy, so long as they don't have to define anything, measure anything, or show any mathematics. (If you ever find a creationist willing to do all that, please bring it to my attention.)
But skipping the standard creationist handwaving fare and getting back to the original post... What you are arguing here is abiogenesis, not evolution. The theory of evolution doesn't care where the original replicators came from; it merely explains the pattern of changes you see once you do have a system of imperfect replicators. (Remember what science is? We see massive evidence that life has changed over time; we try to explain it.)
And FWIW, both scientists and creationists agree that abiogenesis happened at some point in the earth's history. The only disagreements are over when it happened and what the mechanism was. If you want me to accept your made-up probabilities for chemical abiogenesis, are you willing to accept my made-up probabilities for divine abiogenesis?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
THere is nothing wrong with anything that comes from CHina. Dont associate "china" with "disgusting".
Imagine a beowul...
You are making a classic probstat error - you're taking something in which an outcome is guaranteed (52 cards or 104 cards) and saying the odds of any outcome at all are parallel to getting a protein. One point which you are not understanding is the idea of getting one particular ordering, not of getting any ordering at all. A protein that fits a particular role in the cell is only going to have a very small number X (say 8 in 445 AA's) of possible substitutions. So you'd get X in some immense number, not a relevant fact.
Second you are using non-replacement ordering to use the factorial equation; that is nonsensical in protein synthesis as there are clearly more than one of many of the AA's used (20 choices, 445 pieces). Please read up on probstat before you try to use it to refute these facts.
You further speculate that there was a non-oxygen atmosphere in the past which the proteins arose in. That's a tough environment - you'll wind up with therefore absolutely no ozone layer, and a ton of very strong UV radiation. UV at that power breaks up NH3, so there would not be available nitrogen for amino acid synthesis. Nowadays it's done by living things, but they weren't around for the creation of living things, were they.
Your claims about a replicator needing less than perfect replicative abilities is what I said - even in your quote it showed I said "near-perfect". That's because if you don't have very accurate reproduction, you'll get random mutations which, by the laws of probstat, will degenerate most of the organisms via a mechanism known as "return to the mean". Look it up if you're unfamiliar with it.
You're claiming that evolution does not involve abiogenesis. If true (and I dispute that), then evolution needs at least as big a leap of faith as creationism does. And again you're fudging things when you say I should accept your probabilities for divine abiogenesis. Since there definitely is a God, there is no need to calculate the probability of Him existing. Want proof? Where did all the matter, physical laws, order, information, and initial energy come from?
If evolution does not include abiogenesis, you'd better go tell your local school board - it's in the textbooks with lots of other lies about evolution.
could this be living proof of the evolutionary path that aquatic creatures took to make it to land many millions (billions) of years ago? looks like it to me
The fish is a delicacy in Asian cooking; I've had them.
I get *hell* from customs for sneaking Mighty Taco across the border, and yet these nasty things are available in any large Asian community?
Something's not right there. How is it that these were allowed to be imported in the first place?
It's a sign of either an intellectual failure or starvation (I'll leave the intellectual failure with customs and starvation with my Chinese friends) that those things would be considered a delicacy, anyway.
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Where did God come from?
Mario does not know where Shigeru Miyamoto (the god of Mario's universe) comes from, so how should we know any better where al-Lah came from?
Imagine a simulation running on a computer several times larger than our universe. Now imagine a college student in that universe named Albert Lah. How do you know we're not just bits in a computer (Overdrawn at the Memory Bank, The Matrix) in Al Lah's senior project?
Will I retire or break 10K?
God is self-existent, outside our spacetime continuum. Otherwise how could He create this spacetime continuum?
... the /. posters that actually caught this fish and then ate it, not knowing what the hell it was!
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> You are making a classic probstat error...
d00d! You forgot the most important part of your post, which should have gone something like this: And though it's optional, I heartily recommend adding the following disclaimer as well: But having made your bed, let's see how well you lie in it.
First, let me call to the attention of any innocents reading this post that your probability argument - like all creationist probability arguments I've ever seen - relies critically on a hidden assumption that life is a completely random assemblage of atomic components. Lurkers my want to speculate, publicly or privately, why creationists always make this (hidden) assumption; my own speculation is that it's a combinaton fo these three factors:
- the typical creationist knows exactly diddley-jack about the natural sciences, and thus couldn't assume a more realistic mechanism even if he wanted to; and
- admitting that the arrangements of the molecules in biological organisms is the result of laws and forces that bias the outcome runs a great risk of unwittingly admitting that the mechanisms proposed by the theory of evolution really work; and
- any assumption other than completely random configurations with uniform probabilities will not produce the astonomical numbers needed to impress the rubes with an otherwise silly argument.
At any rate, giving AC his desired probability model, and given that the universe exists and the matter in his protein actually exists, we find that there is a truly astronomical number of possible configurations for that matter - probably a higher number even than he calculates - with the resulting possiblility of any single one of those configurations existing - given his assumptions - being <<1/10^50, and thus "impossible". However, given that the universe and the matter in the protein does exist, we conclude that the probability that it is in one of those configurations is 1.0 - just as for the outcome of shuffling a deck of cards.So much for creationist probability arguments; they don't even rise to their own standards, let alone to the standards of science.
> You further speculate that there was a non-oxygen atmosphere in the past which the proteins arose in.
No, that's based on evidence, not speculation. For instance, the iron in all your worldly goods was accessible to human miners because it precipitated out of the oceans en masse when the atmosphere "turned over" to an oxygen-based atmosphere and oxidized it. Otherwise it would be (more or less) randomly distributed throughout the crust.
There is other evidence for our pre-oxygen atmosphere; you might want to read up on it if this sort of thing interests you and your faith doesn't rely too much on isolating yourself from facts about the world you live in.
> That's because if you don't have very accurate reproduction, you'll get random mutations which, by the laws of probstat, will degenerate most of the organisms via a mechanism known as "return to the mean".
There is no such mechanism; do not misinterpret the "law of large numbers" as a programmed directional shift. You seem to be one who knows just enough about statistics to be dangerous.
Also very importantly, do not critique the theory of evolution on the basis of a straw-model that omits an enormously important part of the theory, natural selection. (And sexual selection and all that other good stuff you'll hear about if you ever get past them metaphorical Page One in your knowledge of the theory of evolution.)
Hint: Sundayschool ain't the place to learn about it.
> You're claiming that evolution does not involve abiogenesis.
Indeed I am, and that's because it doesn't. The theory of evolution says nothing about where life came from. Terraform a planet and pack off your favorite species for a permanent visit, and you'll find that they will evolve there - just as they will if they get there instead by local abiogenesis, by human creation, or by divine creation. Ultimate origins is irrelevant to the theory of evolution; it merely needs some biological organisms to work with.
> If true (and I dispute that), then evolution needs at least as big a leap of faith as creationism does.
Not at all. It's evidence, not faith, that tells us that the universe is of finite age, and evidence, not faith, that tells us that life now exists in the universe. It follows immediately from those that abiogenesis must have happened somewhere along the way; faith does not play any role in either the premises or the conclusion.
> And again you're fudging things when you say I should accept your probabilities for divine abiogenesis.
Not at all. If you want me to accept numbers that you pulled out of your ass, then it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect you to accept numbers that I pulled out of my ass.
> Since there definitely is a God, there is no need to calculate the probability of Him existing.
That sort of argument is known as "assuming the consequent", "begging the question", or, in layman's terms, "cheating".
> Want proof? Where did all the matter, physical laws, order, information, and initial energy come from?
Not from any god. Want proof? Where did your god come from?
See, it's easy if I get to use the same low standards of evidence that creationists insist on for their own arguments.
[Lurkers please note that I don't offer that as a serious argument. Rather, I offer it as an example of how creationists will reject an argument with a logical form identical to their own arguments, if it does not lead to the "right" conclusion.]
> If evolution does not include abiogenesis, you'd better go tell your local school board - it's in the textbooks with lots of other lies about evolution.
Oddly enough, solar dynamics, kinematics, cloud formation, Turing machines, electic circuits, and a pile of other things that the theory of evolution doesn't say anything about are also to be found in textbooks. You single out abiogenesis only because of your ignorance (and presumably also because it, even more than evolution, is directly contrary to your religious beliefs).
Curiouser yet, none of those textbooks invoke invisible magicians to explain any of those other phenomena, and yet for some reason no one is writing their school boards and legislatures to protest that omission.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I would think that few if any evolutionists believe the predominance of L-amino acids in living organisms is a chance event. This would be seen, rather, as a clue as to how life evolved from nonlife.
I'm a creationist...
I ask the following question honestly, rather than as a sarcastic remark: Do you consider creationism to be a branch of science?
If you believe that the origin of life is not a subject that is amenable to scientific inquiry, fair enough. But, in my opinion, a believer in "scientific" creationism should expect it to explain the same observations that are so troubling for the evolutionary model. However, I myself am afraid that the answer from scientific creationism will be, "Because God wanted it that way."
I don't get why artificially introduced species are often able to kick the butts of the local ones. The local ones should be better adapted to the local environment.
Unless, perhaps, that some introduced species have survival tricks that local ones were not able to evolve on their own. (What do they call that in AI and game thoery, local miximum rut?)
I wonder if anybody has documented how this happened in specific cases.
Table-ized A.I.
And if there were a self-replicating protein, what would prevent it from continuing to exist today? Where is it?
They're called "prions". You find them in mad cows (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy), and very possibly in people (Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease). Even today.
Why our friend Blinky here is just the next step of the evolutionary chain. Wouldn't we all like a third eye? And they're darn good eatin' too! Mmm-mm! :P
they would have been great on the parentparent.
> I get *hell* from customs for sneaking Mighty Taco [mightytaco.com] across the border
Leave the baggie of pot out and they'll wave you right through.
I wish.
Young guy, dressed either in a shirt and tie or in jeans, white T-shirt and leather jacket, driving a 1976 Dodge Ram, often with big chunks of a cut-up Toyota in the back, going through customs:
Grrrr.... Nothing makes you feel better about living in one of the highest taxed countries in the world than being searched by customs and treated like a criminal every time you come home, while you're gladly welcomed by geniunely friendly customs people on the American side.
Only time I've ever had trouble with US customs was the week after that guy tried to take the ferry to Seattle with the trunkload of explosives. The guy passed a cursory mirror under the truck, then stopped with a surprised look on his face, staring into the mirror: "Shit, boy, is that a nine and quarter axle?" He waved me through.
Fire and Meat. Yummy.