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Seiko TV Watch is now 20 years Old

TheGreatOrangePeel writes "In 1982 the Seiko "Television Watch" became available to buy. Now, 20 years later, the watch has become a bit of a rare item to find. When it was available new, it contained the following: 1-1/4" LCD Screen on wristwatch, Shirt pocket receiver, Case, Earphones, Owner's Manual." Apparently the small wonder is still the smallest TV commercially produced.

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  1. Casio remote watch by Calimus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now the real questions is, will the remote watch work with the the Tv watch?

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  2. The watch was fine ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was the giant dish you had to wear on your head that was a bother.

    1. Re:The watch was fine ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      That, or the giant cable you had to drag along.

  3. How can I masturbate with this thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well fuck, I can't masturbate to erotic TV commercials if the TV is mounted on my friggen wrist... it keeps moving back and forth, back and forth...

    Masturbation requires concentration, which this device does not allow.

  4. Re:Its not really a TV on a Watch, tis a LCD by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bluetooth? But then it's release would be delayed too long. And it wouldn't work anyway.

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  5. You can buy one by Jim+Buzbee · · Score: 3, Informative
  6. Re:I wonder by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Not because we want to; because we can

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  7. They can't build them again (economically) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My organization is known for studying the viability of certain technology products, including televisions.

    We've found that the next place a TV makes sense is within cell phones. With phones getting high quality displays, it's relatively inexpensive (power/space/$) to add a television tuner.

    We found smaller devices were not economical, due to the fact that most people already carry around a cell phone as a device.

    We've also found that cell phones are displacing the sales of watches, as most modern cell phones have a server-synchronized clock built in.

    Over time, we find that the cell phone will shrink into a watch-sized device - but that will take at lesat two more generations of development. Battery life and size is, as always, the limitation.

    1. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by cmowire · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You've got me on the watches being replaced by cell phones. I'll buy that one. But I won't buy the watch-sized cell phone. Unless the phone is somehow implanted, anything smaller than an existing phone isn't going to be convenient for people to talk into or dial out of.

      I would believe half of the cell phone on the wrist and the other half of the cell phone in a headset. But I think the next step is to combine the cell phone and the PDA.

    2. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We've also found that cell phones are displacing the sales of watches, as most modern cell phones have a server-synchronized clock built in.

      I stopped wearing a wristwatch a long time ago for just this reason. What's also interesting that I never though of before is that we went from pocket watches -> wrist watches -> and now back to pocket watches!

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    3. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      Combining the cellphone and PDA? Wow, that would be an exciting new step. It's a shame that no one has thought of it or indeed done it already.

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    4. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by cmowire · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They've done it, Mr. Troll, but who uses them right now? How long did it take to go from wanting a pocket computer (Sharp Wizard, various Radio Shack pocket computers, Newton, etc, etc, etc,) to actually HAVING a usable pocket computer that caught on (PalmPilot, iPAQ, etc.) for widespread usage? At least 10 years.

      This is what I am referring to -- the time when it goes from geekazoid toy to part of life for a good percentage of non-geeks.

    5. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by White+Shade · · Score: 2

      even with all my magical techno-gadgets, I still have a nice analog (you know, with hands..) watch strapped to my wrist, cuz it's just so much easier to tilt my wrist and look down rather than go digging around my pockets to find my cellphone...

      Simple, Functional, and Quick are still important rules of design, which are being ignored with frightening regularity due to the the modern addiction to feature creep/bloat.

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    6. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by gusnz · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure these combination devices are all that they're cracked up to be. We've had the technology to do it for ~20 years, as this article points out, so why haven't they caught on?

      Personally I own both a wristwatch and a cellphone, and am not planning to ditch either. When I just want to know the time, I don't really want to be interrrupted by new text messages in a furious cascade of beeps - especially in a boring (and quiet) lecture theatre :). Or when out sailing and the gun goes off, you want to start your countdown timer without navigating through a pretty GUI menu.

      I'm not saying it's impossible to build smaller devices -- you're right, batteries and also keyboard sizes are the only real limitations (although this would be cool on a mobile), and some are probably economically feasible.

      But they all run up against the K.I.S.S principle -- most people prefer devices to have single, simple functions, so they can be used and upgraded/replaced easily on their own. And if one breaks or runs out of batteries, you still have other toys to pass the time :).

    7. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by Kunta+Kinte · · Score: 2

      We've also found that cell phones are displacing the sales of watches, as most modern cell phones have a server-synchronized clock built in.

      I know I'm on a geek site but...

      Many people, like myself, don't wear a watch to tell the time only. For instance, I wear a movado, it has *no numbers* and *no strokes to mark anything*. You don't tell time on that thing, you take a rough estimate :)

      What the watch does very well is look nice. I get compliments from random people, chicks mostly, constantly. I've discovered a watch is one of the first things a girl will look for in bars,clubs,etc. to figure if you're worth the trouble.

      Sometimes it's good to take your geek hat off for a bit : )

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    8. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by dpp · · Score: 2
      But I won't buy the watch-sized cell phone. Unless the phone is somehow implanted, anything smaller than an existing phone isn't going to be convenient for people to talk into or dial out of.

      You might well be right, but people are investigating ways to get around this. There's a prototype phone where you stick your finger in your ear to listen to vibrations, and talk into its wrist mic (no, really! :-).

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    9. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by plumby · · Score: 2

      What about the Nokia Communicator. It's been around for at least 3 years (possibly more) in some form or other.

    10. Re:They can't build them again (economically) by cmowire · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but it brings new meaning to the phrase "Talk to the fist"

  8. sounds cool until.. by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ..you read the article and realize the thing had a walkman-sized reciever you gotta carry around too (source site was hosed, that's a mirrored copy).

    Seems to me one of the other portable TV's would be a lot more convenient, especially considering the improved screen size. Which you know, is probably a real darn good reason why it never cought on. ;)

    Still, having a resolvable display in the early 80's was doing pretty darn good, even if it ended up being little more than a neat hardware hack.

  9. Re:wow. by Sc00ter · · Score: 4, Informative
    That would be wrong

    http://www.snopes2.com/science/greatwal.htm

    "If we take "space" to mean a low Earth orbit such as the one travelled by the Space Shuttle (roughly 160 to 350 miles above Earth), the Great Wall claim fails twice. First of all, it's not the only object visible from that distance: NASA's Earth from Space photographic archive (particularly the Human Interactions section) shows that pictures taken from low orbit reveal human-built structures such as highways, airports, bridges, dams, and components of the Kennedy Space Center. Secondly, even though other objects are visible at this distance, according to Shuttle astronaut Jay Apt, the Great Wall is barely discernable, if not invisible"

  10. You need a small transmitter for a small watch. by User+956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Combine this with the world's smallest TV transmitter, and you're all set.

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  11. wow I was wrong by Brigadier · · Score: 2



    I remember talking about this in grade school all this dick tracy stuff. I touted it as being impractical and expensive, which it was but in retrospect were these guys ahead of there time or what. Well there is an museum peice for you. Put it right along side the star treck communicators.

  12. not on ebay. by User+956 · · Score: 2, Informative

    the watch has become a bit of a rare item to find.

    tell that to this guy who's selling one for 200 bucks.

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  13. I Sold Them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was a salesman at Bel Air Camera in Los Angeles
    in 1982 and I remember selling these silly things.

    Actually I remember selling ONE. It was bought by
    David Hearst... Patty's brother. He wandered
    around Westwood looking at the stupid thing and
    bumping into people.

  14. Way to steal a story by Space+Coyote · · Score: 2

    Come on, a story mentioning this thing showed up on the eternally spiffy memepool just a couple of days ago. 5:1 odds the article poster got it from there without giving proper credit. Show some manners, people.

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  15. get the straightdope by lingqi · · Score: 2
    click here.

    some quotes:
    ...Gemini V astronauts Gordon Cooper and Charles Conrad were able to spot, among other things, a special checkerboard pattern that had been laid out in Texas, a rocket-sled test in New Mexico, and the aircraft carrier that would later pick them up in the Atlantic, along with a destroyer trailing in its wake...

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  16. But is it cable ready by MBCook · · Score: 2

    That's neat, but it should at least be cable ready! Or have RCA jacks so I can run linux on my xbox, keep it in my backpack powered by a fuel cell, and use X on my wrist-watch TV during commercials. Best of all, by the time all of the above is available, I might be able to afford it within only a few lifetimes.

    This would be cool, because I would assume that by now they could get it alot smaller (electronics part, not the screen because why would you want it?)

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  17. As seen on memepool.com by perky · · Score: 2

    This was up a few days ago on the excellent memepool.com. Go take a look - you might like it.

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  18. Computer Watch by BoxJockey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This reminded me of a watch I had long ago...It was a PDA/Organizer Computer Watch. It actually had a version of GW Basic in the rom, and 256k of RAM, I believe. Here's a british version on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =941378559

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  19. Not so small by shepd · · Score: 2

    And not so good either. With a small brick sized battery and antenna pack, these were hardly the portable pieces they seem to be.

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  20. Digital Watches are neat by Sabalon · · Score: 2

    I still think that digital watches are a neat idea.

  21. Re:I don't want one... by Technician · · Score: 2

    It'l be obsolete in the US in 2007 unless it comes with a digital tuner. Analog broadcasts are to end. I don't want to pack a VCR or DVD along just to use the watch. I want one that will work at the ball park to watch the replay.

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