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If You Had Something to Say to Future Generations...?
gauthier-s asks: "KEO is a project that intends to place a geostationary satellite in orbit that will keep our messages for future generations (up to 50k years after our current existence) as a 'souvenir of Humanity'. Everyone is invited to submit his own message to future civilizations, since it costs nothing to do so. It has been said that any message submitted will be included without any censorship. These messages will be stored for the long trip onto glass disc, which will hopefully be readable by whatever future technology exists when it is recovered. Submissions are possible until December 31, 2002, so take the time to think about your message!" If you feel inclined to share, what kind of message would you leave to the future children of Earth?
Maybe its too simple a statement, but a lot of people think up lots of reasons to justify greed.
Indeed capitalism is totally based on greed, it goes to the heart of our covilisation.
If you feel inclined to share, what kind of message would you leave to the future children of Earth?
Don't blame me, I voted for Nader.
Wear sunscreen.
CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.
Both documents (along with several along similar lines) would probably be a good idea to include along with any individual comments. Especially if you subscribe to Orwell's theories of Big Brother etc and believe the future will be one of totalitarianism. I was worried about how the future descendants would be able to read the messages, but it seems they are including a DVD reader along with the storage (in the form of DVDs, of course!) There's no guarantee, though, that they'd be able to plug it in ;)
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
That would leave them wondering for YEARS.
Say hi to Ted Williams for me!
First Post!
Steer clear of Yucca Mountain.
CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.
> If you feel inclined to share, what kind of message would you
> leave to the future children of Earth?
"Always...no, never...forget to check your references."
Chasing Amy
(We all chase Amy...)
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates, 1981
Downmix - The Artscene News Source!
To the children of the far future.
If you have invented time travel and are ever around my area/time can I catch a lift?
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Beowolf Cluster of Natalie Portmans pouring Hot Grits Down All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Can you send me a Playstation36 and a few games through time? Thanks
Hacker Media
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You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert CmdrTaco Malda, owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org. Actually, its not a very popular site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies, and other societal rejects and outcasts. Its also home to one of the worlds largest suspected pdophile rings, the infamous Slashdot crew.
Have they invented tri-breasted women yet? Like in Total Recall? 4 would be cool too.
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
hey can u send me one of ur newest computers through time in exchange for some old artifact
"MESSAGE TO FUTURE GENERATIONS" LICENSE
ATTENTION: Please read carefully before opening this geostationary satellite. The individual or entity opening this satellite (the "future generation") agrees to be bound by the terms of this license. If you open this satellite and do not agree to the terms of this license, do not use the glass disc contained within and promptly return the satellite unopened to its geosynchronous orbit.
There will almost certainly be censorship of the material submitted. It's just that it'll occur when the satellite is retrieved by these future generations and read, rather than when it is put up.
--
viqsi - See "vixen"
If we do not change our direction we are likely to end up where we are headed.
NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local
Would it be cool to get "First Post!" on the Disk?
They will never listen to us. Even if we gave them the most insightful advice possible, they wouldn't follow it. Look at the bible! Does anyone actually care about what's in it? Most "Christians" never even read it, let alone understand it. And yet it could similarly be regarded as advice for future generations. And if we could ever somehow follow the gist of it strictly, as in, love your neighbour, live in peace and harmony, do not kill steal or covet etc. then we would have sort of a utopian, idyllic society. But who cares about the bible or any other religious text? It's only created rivalry between people of different religions, and generated the majority of all wars ever fought. Whatever you tell someone, you'll be lucky if they listen to it. People never learn anything except from their own experience. You may try time and time again to teach them how to properly live their lives, but it would take genetic manipulation to get people to actually learn from each other instead of learning from trial and error. If people would only learn from their elders, we would all have ceased bickering amongst ourselves a long, long time ago, after the first wars were fought.
Just look at spain and morocco. They're getting close to a war over some stupid deserted islands that no one ever heard about.Morocco just invaded one of them, and there's nothing there but rocks and sand, what's the point?
You might as well send them "frosty piss" and "AYB" messages. They'll shit on them.
Sell microsoft short.
-Sean
Be excellent to each other.
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I hope that this project includes all the literary classics. They seem to have an infinite amount of storage space, so this should not be a problem for them. I would hesitate to offer my own personal comment to the far future, as I am currently faced with so many worthwhile thoughts from the past which are truly worthy of preservation.
We should probably apologize in advance about the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, New Kids on the Block...
You know, since their annoying yet catchy music has probably burned itself into our DNA and our descendents will all be walking around in girly-boy outfits with atrocious haircuts and humming poorly-written ballads in harmony...
No, seriously. Am I the only one who sees this?
(As an aside, I always wanted to do a First Person Shooter where the premise is, a guy is given the opportunity to visit the future, and when he returns, he has this crazed look in his eye, and he gasps, "Kill them! We have to kill them NOW! While we still have a fighting chance! For the LOVE of GOD, KILL ALL THE BOYBANDS NOW!!!" etc. etc.)
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Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...
A good place to start would be to include whatever was on the Voyager spacecraft.
I wonder why they picked 50,000 years. I mean, you might as well say 80 gadzillion years. Why not just say "we'll do our best to make it last forever?"
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1. [whisper] Cover for me.
2. Oooo, good idea, boss!
3. It was like that when I got here.
--Homer
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
History satellite go boom. Bye bye, non-state-sanctioned history.
I'm the stranger...posting to
is roughly three lines long. If I conclude my message with the source code and explain it's applicability to future generations, will the satellite then become a circumvention device?
All the crap flooders will fill the poor satelite with *BSD is dying posts - the funny thing is that the life forms that will read the disk will probably be *BSD based sentient AI systems.
Poor things won't know what to make of the ASCII goastse.cx posts though.
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Let's put the whole Slashdot message archive on that DVD. After all, it's the stuff that matters.
And:
There is no sex in the Champagne Room.
Oh, there's *champagne* in the Champagne Room; but you don't want champagne, you want sex...
Chasing Amy
(We all chase Amy...)
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
I'm allowed, once in a while, aren't I?
But 50,000 years seems a bit too long.
Why?
The assumption is that our technology will continue to advance the farther we travel into the future.
But, consider _The Time Machine_ by H.G. Wells. When the main character traveled far enough into the future, eventually we reversed this trend, evolved into two separate species, and ran around in happiness about all the fruit we've found (okay...so its been a while since I read the book).
And I think Wells has this point right on. Look around us, people. If you haven't noticed, the renaissance is over. We've already passed our Great Enlightenment. And we've already passed our technological maturity.
Scientists already think that we pretty much know most of what there is to know (I read this somewhere, not sure where). Even if you're a programmer, what else is new or interesting to program? (I am seriously curious about this, but probably off-topic)
At what point does going to school mean learning that any new idea you have has already been discoved and written about in depth?
And at what point are we running around naked, glad at being so happy eating our yummy fruit, completely oblivious about the messages contained in a dark satellite, silently circling around the earth?
By the time you read this, the copyright to Mickey Mouse should have just expired.
I'd send ASCII copies of all the great works of art. both in black and white and in color. What's great about ASCII is it's huge compression rate. You could fit all of them into the space of a good sized/quality jpg file.
Here's an example:Mona Lisa
and one in color... html coloring.
Some dog
A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
There is a great SF story by Gregory Benford
Spoiler Warning
Don't read on if you think you want to read the story. The following spoils it a bit. However, it is essential to illustrate my point.
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The story is about retrieving information from pottery. The idea is to restore the sounds that were around when people were making pottery centuries ago. I read somewhere that this was based on actual serious research.
Anyhow, the scientists succeed, but are disappointed by what they can retrieve: middle-agers shouting warnings into the pot not to walk on this and this guy's land, because the sheep will get sick, and other nonsense like that.
At the same time some other scientists are preparing a time capsule for the benefit of future generations. The conclusion of the story is: "what makes us think we are doing a better job than the people from the middle ages?"
I guess the same applies here: even if we would filter out all the crap ("l33t hax0rz in sp33z!"), are people really going to give a damn in 50K years?
MSN 8: Now Microsoft even has bugs in their ad campaigns.
"We, too, thought we were intelligent. We mistook data for wisdom."
50,000 years was chosen because in that amount of time, it's almost guaranteed that every glass disc on the satellite will be shattered by the billions of micrometeors that will most likely be perforating the hull of the sattellite on a continual basis after they sufficiently weaken the skin in a couple hundred years.
/really/ have to hear whatever inane shit the humans of today decide might be cute to say and have put in orbit.
That way, the people of the future don't
Future generations will be quite confused when most of the comments sent to space consist of 'first posts', just like this article.. along with many other comments pointing this fact out.
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
"You may have stumbled across the remains of an ancient site from that antique thing called the 'internet'. The site was called Slashdot. You may have noticed that everyone was getting their panties in a knot over a corporation called Microsoft, and that they were constantly screaming and going grey and/or bald about the evils of government and such."
"Take heed, and follow these words: Fuck it. Don't worry about crap you can't change. *Live*."
Well, I'd zip up a combination of the latest BitchX client, a picture of our mutual Goatse friend and a text file with the message:
These backdoors had belonged to us.
How about WE APOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, preferably in the form of giant flaming letters.
They told us it was fixed!
Can You Say Linux? I Knew That You Could.
Is this little project part of a greater payload, one involving a military satellite with ultra-top-secret payload?
If I was them in 50,000 years...
Actually, people in 500-1000 years are going to go up there and remove all the stinking satellites in orbit because they will interfere with starship lauches.
And they probably would laugh their head off finding our pathetic attempt at imparting wisdom from the distant past, and yet be not amused at all by our propensity to put junk in space for no other reason than to stroke our own egos...
The point is that there's a marketing ploy somewhere. Someone is selling movie tickets, sodas, or cars behind this one...
repeat after me: "I am a victim of marketing"
"Piter, too, is dead."
One word, Two characters...
42!
Hello World
"The dinosaurs died because they didn't have a space program." - Niven
It's better to pissed off then pissed on!
Open Source Time and Attendance, Job Costing a
Don't forget to take a towel.
Depends, do you want to provide any evidence to the contary?
:)
Do I need to read the Bible to realise it's wrong to kill someone* or sleep with someone other than my wife*, not steal*, not commit thoughtcrime*, to love my neighbour and my enemy*, to turn the other cheek*, or that if I ever get the chance, it's a good idea to flood the planet and only tell people I like that they should prepare?
No, I don't think so*. Not that my opinions on the Bible or religion are really up for discussion*
* Various exceptions excluded
"Sorry. We thought it was a good idea."
;)
That should pretty much cover everything.
if you meditate daily, you will always have clean, flowing, bowl movements, your surgeon general
Righteousness postpones the inevitable
http://burningaureole.caveism.net
im all borken up between:
1) S'long and thanks for all the fish!
2) LOOK! BEHIND YOU!
3) NI!
and
4) Bond, James Bond
"My heart is in the work." - Andrew Carnegie
"If you can read this you've done better than I could have hoped." I mean, seriously, what are the chances of something like this being readable in even 50 years?
Future generations will only need two things from us. The complete works of Luis Armstrong
and the rules of major league baseball.
When punk rock is outlawed, only outlaws will have punk rock.
...The physicists thought they had their knowledge of the universe pretty much down pat.
I'm the stranger...posting to
keeping it short....
1. in the late 1800s, supposedly a notice was tacked up in the U.S. patent office proclaiming that everything that could be invented, had been invented.(I can't think of anything meaningful invented after 1890, can you?)
2. I read the same thing you had on Stephen Hawking as well (poster #2 in this thread).... Stephen Hawking was talking about the abstraction of mathematical concepts for physics.. Hawking believes that humans are near the point where it is impossible for our brains to comprehend the meaning of the math... There is PLENTY left for us in physics... I could think of quite a few right off of the top of my head... Two are, fully understanding the "Weird Quantum State" i.e. teleportation. The Unifying theory... for those nay-sayers out there, guess what, it's out there whether you hide your head in a hole or not... Remember the confusion about breaking the sound barrier? (No one could live through it!!! AAHHH... END OF THE WORLD!..... Now we are watching men attempt to break the SB, by jumping out of weather balloons at 130,000 ft.... Some limit! )
"He, O' Men, is wisest who, like Socrates, knows his wisdom has no value."
-- Socrates
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GET OFF MY LAWN!
Slashdot quality declines as the number of hot grits posts decreases. - Provolt's Law, Apr-09-2005
Always clearly and concisely comment your code.
I stole this sig.
"Hi, I send you this in order to have you advice..."
Well you oh so close I can smell it.
It wouldn't require genetic manipulation to get people to learn from one another, but it would require genetic manipulation to remove all the animal instincts, we are afterall barbaric animals at hart (or at least 99.9% of us).
There is very little you can do to 'teach' most people, there just not made that way.
Most pepole cant understand the kind of philosiphy required to implement such a utopia, this can be expressed as a mild autism, when compaired to those who can understand.
1: autistic ( you can-not understand that other people may see things differently from you)
2: autistic-normal ( the double bluff, you cannot understand that someone might know what your thinking)
3: normal ( unable to fully comprehend the double bluff (in some circumstances nothing matters))
4: Full realisation ( we and everything around us are all made of star dust, I am no different from the air that I breath)
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
1. "Sorry..." 2. Include a COBOL Manual!
The generations that have gone on before you, whither have they fled? And those round whom in life circled the fairest and loveliest of the land, where now are they? Profit by their example, O people, and be not of them that go astray.
... there you are.
He's talking about radioactive decay and how 95% of the radioactive isotope is still there, which isn't E=mc^2, it's y=Ce^(-kt)
From the website:
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"... Some 50,000 years later it will return to earth, intact,
I have only one word
"DUCK!"
... STFU and RTFM!
Life sucks.
DON'T PANIC!
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.
needs to recover from its hangover. Has W recovered from his hangoverS?
;-), Homer mentions to
Burn one to celebrate W's one term presidency!!!
Be Patriotic, Smoke Amerikan grown marijuana, not treasonous imports !!!!
Courtesy of About 420
Connotative Use/Meaning
420 is a phreak s (and not just a hippie s) favorite number for a
variety of reasons, or maybe for no reason at all, but colloquially
the number says pot -- let s smoke pot, or someone s smoking
pot, or gee, i really like pot, or time to smoke pot, either by
time (4:20 a.m. or p.m.), date (April 20th), or otherwise (e.g. State
Route 420). April 20th at 4:20 is marked by annual events in
Mount Tamalpais, CA (an informal gathering); Marin Conty, CA
(the 420 Hemp Fest); Ann Arbor, MI (the Hash Bash); and
Washington, D.C. (buildup towards the July 4th Smoke-In).
Original Source(s)
Conventional wisdom: The most common tale is that 420 is the
police radio code or criminal code (and therefore the police call)
in certain part(s) of California (e.g. in Los Angeles or San
Francisco) for having spotted someone consuming cannabis
publicly, i.e. pot smoking in progress; that local cannabis users
picked up on the code and began celebrating the number temporally
(esp. 4:20 a.m., 4:20 p.m., and April 20); that the number became
nationally popularized in the late 1980s and, more ferverently, in
the early- to mid-1990s; and is colloquially applied to a variety of
relaxed and/or inspired contexts, including not only pot
consumption but also a good time more generally (in contrast to
the drug war surrounding).
Conventions are legends: 420 is not police radio code for
anything, anywhere. Checks of criminal codes (including those of
the City of San Francisco, the City of Los Angeles, Los Angeles
County, the State of California, and the federal penal code) suggest
that the origin is neither Californian nor federal (the two best
guesses). For instance, California Penal Code 420 defines as a
misdemeanor the hindrance of use (obstructing entry) of public
lands, and California Family Code 420 defines what constitutes a
wedding ceremony (Marco). One state does come close: The
Illinois Department of Revenue classifies the Alcoholic Liquor Act
under Part 420, and the Cannabis and Controlled Substances Tax
Act are next, under Part 428. (RB 5/19/99)
True story?: According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times,
the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971,
among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who
called themselves the Waldos. The term 420 was shorthand for the
time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis
Pasteur, to smoke pot. ``Waldo Steve, a member of the group who
now owns a business in San Francisco, says the Waldos would
salute each other in the school hallway and say ``420 Louis! The
term was one of many invented by the group, but it was the one
that caught on. ``It was just a joke, but it came to mean all kinds of
things, like `Do you have any? or `Do I look stoned? he said.
``Parents and teachers wouldn t know what we were talking about.
The term took root, and flourished, and spread beyond San Rafael
with the assistance of the Grateful Dead and their dedicated cohort
of pot-smoking fans. The Waldos decided to assert their claim to
the history of the term after decades of watching it spread, mutate
and be appropriated by commercial interests. The Waldos contacted
Hager, and presented him with evidence of 420 s history, primarily
a collection of postmarked letters from the early 70s with lots of
mention of 420. They also started a Web site, waldo420.com. ``We
have proof, we were the first, Waldo Steve said. ``I mean, it s not
like we wrote a book or invented anything. We just came up with a
phrase. But it s kind of an honor that this emanated from San
Rafael. Maria Alicia Gaura for the San Francisco Chronicle,
4/20/00 p. A19; and thanks to Noah Cole for the submission
Alternate explanations
There are a variety of other explanations, all much more interesting
than police code, and many plausible. Some are more likely uses
of the 420/hemp connection rather than sources of it, such as the
score for the football game in Fast Times at Ridgement High,
42-0.
Known Myths: It isn t police code (see above). There are 315
chemicals in marijuana, not 420. And although tea time in
Amsterdam is rumored to be 4:20, it is actually 5:30 (Gerhard
den Hollander).
Sixties Songs: For instance, Bob Dylan s famous Rainy Day
Women #12 and 35 is a possible reference, or source --
12x35=420. And Stephen Stills wrote (and Crosby Stills Nash
& Young performed) a song 4+20 (first recorded 7/16/69,
released on Deja Vu 3/11/70) about an 84-year-old
poverty-stricken man who started and finished with nothing.
(Thanks to Sherry Keel 12/6/98.) Dylan aslo mentions 4 and
20 windows in The Balland of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest
(on John Wesley Harding).
Older Verse: But 420 in poetry is older than that - Greg
Keller notes the old nursery rhyme line, four and twenty
black birds baked in a pie. Revelation 5:14 (in the King
James Version of the Christian Bible) reads, And the four
beasts said A-Men. And the four and twenty elders fell down
and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. (Travis
Spurley 2/15/99) And in Midnight s_Children, Salman
Rushdie wrote, Inevitably, a number of these children failed
to survive. Malnutrition, disease and the misfortunes of
everyday life had accounted for no less than four hundred and
twenty of them by the time I became conscious of their
existence; although it is possible to hypothesize that these
deaths, too, had their purpose, since 420 has been, since time
immemorial, the number associated with fraud, deception and
trickery. (Comet 2/14/98) Comet s best guess is that this
refers to something in Indian mythology or numerology, since
the book is set in India and frequently involves Indian history,
culture, and religion. Given the high interest in Eastern
religion among the phish/dead community, this seems a likely
origin of 420 s current significance.
Temporal Significance: Hands on analog clock at 4:20 look
like position of doobie dangling from mouth Larry in
Tuscan and Alex Mack 5/19/99). Disruptive students are out
of detention and safetly away from school by 4:20, also
rumored to be the time that you should dose to be peaking
when the Dead went on stage Hart. The Waldos were a
group of teens back in the 70 s that lived in San Rafael, CA.
420 was the way they talked about pot in front of teachers,
non-smoking family members etc. Also it was the time of day
they could just go relax, and get baked. (PhunkCellar)
Jamaicans purportedly worked till 4 then walked home then
lit up. They would talk 420 like our parents talked about after
5. That s when partying began Larry in Tuscan). Albert (not
Abbie) Hofmann supposedly first encountered LSD at 4:20
p.m. on 4/19/1943 (Bart Coleman citing Storming Heaven by
Jay Stevens, recommended by Mickey Hart in Planet Drum).
Surrealist painter Miro was born April 20, 1893. And
www.filmspeed.com says the propoganda film Reefer
Madness has a copyright date of April 20, 1936 (i.e. 4/20).
(Patrick Woolford)
Misc: Could be that it comes from hydroponics, the practice
of cultivating plants in water often used by indoor marijuana
cultivators, since 4 is used for H on a calculator (420/H20).
(Nick Lowe 3/30/00) The number 80 (eight) is quatre vingt
(pronounced cah-truh vahn), meaning four (times} twenty.
Dan Nijjar 1/27/00 (No connection yet between the number
80 and pot. A quarter pound is roughly 120 grams, rounding
quarter-ounces to 7.5.) The titanic was supposed to arrive
4/20/1912. (Thanks to RB.) Perhaps the heavy use of vt420
terminals in the Berkeley area is to blame? (BTW, 420 in
binary code is 110100100.)
Ubiquitous?
Now there s a 420 Pale Ale. One of the late-97/early-98 Got
Milk ads featured a character eating cookies without milk and
then passing a sign that reads Next Rest Area 420 miles (as Ross
Bruning). Reportedly, all of the clocks in the movie Pulp Fiction
are stuck on 4:20. Shirts with the number 420 on the red-and-blue
interstate highway shield (Interstate 420?) have show up on the
sitcom Will and Grace (Paul Risenhoover 5/14/99) and in several
videos. UPS labelling software has a 420 postal code legend for
next-day/2-day deliveries (which is how Phish tickets are sent).
(Jack Lebowitz 10/3/98) MTV s 1997 Viewer s Choice Award (for
the MTV Video Awards) was decided by calls to
1-800-420-4MTV. And by May of 1998, the number was
appearing in so many ads (eg Copenhagen 5/14/98 Rolling Stone
p54, Corvette p55 5/98 Car & Driver) that its presence is
presumed to be intentional. Many songs are around 4 minutes 20
seconds long (since many songs fall between 2:30 and 5:30),
including for example Pink Floyd s A Great Day for Freedom (on
The Division Bell, 1994), the Foo Fighters My Hero, and
Smokin from Boston s first album. There have also been some
420 references on The Simpsons. In the re-run episode aired on
April 20th, 1999 at a special time (probably in honor of those
college students staying in the holiday spirit
Flanders that Barney s birthday is April 20th. Also, the jackpot sign
in one part of the casino says $420,000. There are a couple less
concrete ones, but these two have to be legit, especially since they
decided to air THAT particular episode on 4/20/99. (Submitted by
Matt Meehan 4/21/99) And (as of Fall 99) the 60 free minutes that
Working Assets Long Distance offers, at the 7 cents per minute
rate, is $4.20 free. There s even a band named 420, and another
names . In the first fifteen pages of Karel Capek s novel War with
the Newts, a man diving under wonder stayed down for four
minutes and twenty seconds. Grant Garstka 1/6/00 At the
suggested retail price ($3.96) and Michigan (6%) sales tax, a deck
of Uno cards costs $4.20. Nic Boris 4:20 marks the first downbeat
of the drums in Led Zeppelin s epic Stairway to Heaven. (Dan
Harris) The bill authorizing force after the World Trade Center
attacks of 9/11/01 passed 420 to 1, and news reports in following
months noted many times that there are (or were then, anyway) 420
airports in the U.S. Allan Morris And don t forget that Adolf Hitler
was born on April 20, macabely celebrated (or at least
referenced) via the Columbine High School shootings.
Phish-related Occurances
Whatever the origin, the number appears frequently... For the
summer 1997 tour, TicketMaster service charges were $4.20. In
the Fall 1997 Doniac Schvice Dry Goods section, a limited edition
Pollack poster printed on 100% hemp is order number 420P. The
Great Went was 420 miles from Boston (former home of Phish).
The official logo includes 4 gills and 20 bubbles (Gringo
11/12/98). As of 6/15/97, including covers and originals, Phish
had performed a total of 420 songs (thought its 486 by 4/24/98).
(David Steinberg). Lawnboy is 420megs of memory. Patrick
Walker Phish s The Vibration of Life underlies a whirling loop
with Seven Beats per second (which makes 420 beats per minute.)
Trey has used the altered line woke up at 4:20 in Makisupa
Policeman, which also often indirectly celebrates 420ing, e.g. by
mention of goo balls. One of the funniest shirts around takes light
jabs at both the 4:20 phenomenon and the rumored evolution
(collapse?) of the Phish.Net (especially rec.music.phish) from
being Gamehendge to Flamehendge, and beyond. The first day of
the Great Went started at 4:20 (with Makisupa Policeman. (The
second day started late, at 4:37.) Noah Cole The first single from
Slip Stitch and Pass was played on WBCN 10/14/97 at 4:20 pm.
An uproar at 12/31/96 can be heard on tape during the 2001, in
response to an enormous digital clock (which was counting down
to midnight) reaching 11:55:40 and reading -4:20. (Yoda)
During the 9-12-00 2001, Trey hits the first riff right at 4:20 into
the intro jam. (Cal 2/25/01) Some mail order tickets for the 1997
New Year s run were in section 420. The first Mass Pike toll
leaving Oswego was $4.20. (Camille Heath ) And the standard
shipping for The Phish Companion through Amazon was
originally $4.20.
420 Shows: Phish performed on April 20 in 1989, 1990, 1991,
1993, and 1994. The first day of the Great Went started at 4:20,
although that was called a soundcheck by Trey after three songs.
The Jazzfest Harry Hood 4-26-96 started at about 4:20 reported by
Trevor. At Big Cypress, David Bowie was playing at 4:20 a.m.
And the one event during the hiatus (10/8/00 - ?) featuring all
four members - for Jason Colton s wedding - was 12/1/01, 420
from: http://www.phish.net/faq/n420.html:
Um wait... what was my first point?
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
If you are hearing this message, this craft was not destroyed in a collison with near Earth asteriods. And now a word from our sponsor Coca-cola.
To-do List: Receive telemarketing call during a tornado warning. Check.
"Warning: Islam; extreme danger!"
Add to that the problem of human evolution. Modern humans have only been around for 20000 years. We may not look or act the same, or even be here 50000 years from now. We're long overdue for an asteroid impact, ice age, or other disaster. Any such event could cause the evolution of species on Earth to change significantly. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I really don't think we'll be here 50000 years from now, unless we get off our butts and colonize space. Then we at least have a chance of surviving long enough to be around to read these messages 50000 years from now.
That said, I'll probably leave a message anyway. Who knows? Maybe some future historian will have remembered the languages of the twenty-first century and will be able to read it. It would be cool to think I might be able to rant that far into the future.
Real software engineers regret the existence of COBOL, FORTRAN and BASIC.
"I really hope you guys aren't still waiting for some magic man from the sky to 'return'. -steve"