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Extra Scenes in FotR Special Edition DVD
gdr writes "Lights Out Entertainment have an article on the extra scenes that will be in the Fellowship of the Ring special edition DVD. It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit. I'm not sure the final battle scene really needs to be any longer." There are quite a few bits mentioned for the extra 30
minutes of footage that I'm looking forward to seeing. Just be careful to
buy the November 12 release and not the august release if you want the extra
mojo. I'll be waiting.
Except most movies don't weigh in at around 3 hours in their post-cut form.
For those devoted Tolkien fans that want to see a more faithful recreation of the book on-screen, these additional scenes will help out (to an extent).
Those who aren't fans of the book should be perfectly happy with the August release.
Still, no Tom Bombadil. *sigh*
I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
I was extremely glad they cut out the Tom Bombadil scenes from the book. It was the most boring and meaningless section of the entire trilogy and it would have died on screen. Seeing the hobbits get sucked in by the trees would be neat, but I can live without that.
I think I'll rent Fellowship when it comes out in August and then buy it in November. It's a great movie and one of the best book to movie adaptations I've ever seen.
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I only really missed Tom Bombadil and the Old Man Willow tree...
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
There's an easy way to let you watch the August release without giving yourself more reason for self-hatred: Rent the DVD when it comes out, several times if need be, then buy the November release. Acknowledge your weakness, sate your desires, save yourself from blowing 20 unnecessary bucks.
Man, I've spoken to crack fiends who sound more self-empowered with respect to their vices. :)
... I mean, shit, where's the self control?
.. I wanna hear how somebody can justify that kind of sentiment. And how does this factor into the power of the boycott when consumers themselves admit being unable to control their spending habits?
Personally, I have very little respect for the franchise slut. It's one thing to be a fan, but to flat out say, "I dont want to buy two, but I know I will cave and do it."
This isn't flamebait
"Old man yells at systemd"
I've read reports that state that the extras found on the first (2-disc) release will not be available on the second (4-disc) release, and vice versa. Hell, the 4-disc version won't even contain the theatrical version of the movie, but (from what I've read) the 30-minute extended version only. So I'm planning on buying both anyway.
For those of you who see this as purely a money grab, it's not. Look at the other options New Line had:
New Line did their best to give its customers a choice and opportunity to get what they want.
AJS
Do what I'm going to do. Buy the August version watch it a few times. Buy the November version. Then use the August version as a white elephant gift come December.
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Some people may feel that this is an effort to milk consumers, but I don't think so at all.
What a load of crap. I mean really. If they were trying to do right by the customer, the November release would be this 6-disc set he mentions and you would get both for $30 instead of having two boxes sitting around with 75% of the same stuff and paying $40 for the whole thing to boot. This is only meant to milk the customer. Just admit it and be done with it.
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C'mon, people. Yell about the MPAA all week until they have a movie you want to watch and then you don't even ask why the "special edition" features aren't on the "regular" edition. SUCKERS!
Carpe Deez
I'm debating on putting off buying EITHER of the upcoming releases. I can't help but believe that once all three movies have come out that there will be the "Complete Lord Of The Rings Boxed Set" with all the stuff you'll already have plus 2-4 dics of never-before-seen footage and extras and such, along with a collector's box, 100-page booklet, etc, etc... making any earlier purchases a waste of my money.
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Believe me, I'd love to. But Tom Bombadil isn't explainable; that's why he wasn't in the movie. JRRT's invention of Tom was either brilliant in its creation of a truly multidimensional character which the book only hinted at, or it was just crazy :-).
You really, really have to read the book -- and it really helps to think about it, too, to see how little Tom fits into the bigger picture of the world.
In the long run, Tom with all his mysterious power and limitations is critical to the meaning of the book. Not everything is explained; Tom is one of the things that aren't.
So I'm sorry, I can't. There may be enlightenment to be had, but it has to be gained the hard way.
-Billy
How about, for those who've read the book and decided that Old Man Willow and Bombadil were both best left unshot?
Tolkien started writing a children's book to follow The Hobbit and changed his focus towards the end of the first book (well, 1/4 of the way through the single book, as he was planning it) and it really shows.
The first part was silly, and not in a good way. Remember the dwarf names in tH? Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Dori, Nori, Ori, etc? Silly rhyming intended for children.
The first part of LotR was this way, with all the hobbit lineage and the sillyness of the party, of Bombadil, and so on.
At least the movie avoided this. They let events be funny without anything be ridiculous, which detracts from the overall feeling of seriousness the quest deserves.
Actually, Tolkien himself states that Bombadil was the name of a toy of his children, that he put in the book for a cameo because he thought they'd like it, not because it helped the story. (He later said that he thought the mystery of Bombadil helped the world, but only in context of someone who had read the Silmarilion as well.)
Right now, Amazon is offering the first one at $17.97, the second at $25.99. So you can buy either one at a very reasonable price, or all six disks for $44.00.
Let me repeat that for all of you whiners who didn't understand it:
You can buy all six disks, including two full cuts, for only $44.00.
Damn, do I feel ripped off. Especially when the six-disk set of 'The Godfather', "remastered" for the umpteenth time, is $75. Or the single, no-specials, no-restoration DVS of 'Harold and Maude' is $25.50.
Get a clue. Jackson et. al. had to make a decision as to how to package it. They made their decision. As far as I can tell, they decided that they would not force folks to buy duplicate material if they wanted everything, and kept it all *very very cheap*. Looks to me like a damned fine choice.
And if you don't like it, don't buy it.
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I was serious. The "uneventful" periods of the Journey in the LotR was where a lot of the character development took place. It was during a pit stop in the Two Towers where Gollum caught the rabbits for Sam to cook for Frodo that I realized that Sam was the more heroic of the two hobbits.
I honestly wish that LotR had been filmed as six movies instead of three.
Every action taken by a business is done in order to increase profits. I'm sure the execs at New Line would not let an opportunity like this slip past them; so of course releasing two different editions is a money grab. What else could it possibly be? When Jackson defends releasing two distinct editions, he is merely trying to say that he thinks they did a good job on making two separate editions that will appeal to two separate demographics. I don't think anybody is so naive of American business practices to think that this plan is anything but an obvious (and maybe acceptable) method of increasing profits for New Line.
I don't know anything about Tolkien's life or what he intended while writing the books, but you are definitely correct that the focus and style changes drastically somewhere between Rivendell and Lorien. I always interpreted this as the changing perceptions of the hobbits as they become more aware of the world outside the Shire: the comfortable imagery gives way to something darker as the quest progresses. In this context you can see Tom Bombadil as the hobbits' first exposure to someone outside the world of hobbits; maybe Tom isn't as weird as he seems, maybe the hobbits just see him that way. Anyway, I think the relatively easy introduction serves the books well; if the books began with the middle chapters of The Two Towers, far fewer people would ever successfully launch a trip through them.
-Graham