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Ghost In The Shell TV Series

Briareos writes: "Just found out over at animeondvd.com's forums (no link provided to protect the innocent...) that Production I.G. finally revealed quite some info about the GITS TV series they're currently working on. (I also thought it was a nice birthday present for me, by the way... :)"

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  1. No info on where it'll be picked up? by SirSlud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this to air in NA, or will it be import only for us westerners? Couldn't find it on the site.

    Obligatory "me too" props to the movie. I hope is the show is good.

    Now if only I could afford all the Cowboy Bebop episodes I might have to start collecting this stuff, but dam, between the computer parts, the games, the pron, and the consoles, who has money left over for anime imports? :P

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    1. Re:No info on where it'll be picked up? by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The site was really devoid of info, but why else would the launch the site in two languages? There is also a link at the bottom of the page for "broadcast and licensing outside asia". It looks like they are at least hoping to get picked up.

      I wish Cartoon Network would branch off a network for adult animation, there is only so much you can hack up anime to make it suitable for kids.

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    2. Re:No info on where it'll be picked up? by Microlith · · Score: 3, Informative

      Chances are Bandai Entertainment will be handling the North American release. Same people who handled Cowboy Bebop.

      Whether it'll air on TV or not depends on who gets it, but I guarantee CN will not get it.

      Maybe the Action Channel, or Showtime.

      Or you could just buy the DVDs. And don't buy Hong Kong bootlegs.

    3. Re:No info on where it'll be picked up? by jnik · · Score: 2

      Production IG is actually getting pretty seriously into the North American market themselves; they've been working with Bandai (the Love Hina and Candidate for Goddess DVD's are technically Prod IG releases with Bandai distribution) and Synch-Point/Digital Manga. Sounds like Bandai will be distroing GiTS (being a more established company that makes sense) but Prod IG probably will be very closely involved. At any rate they'd have to be brain-dead to not bring it to the US in some form, given the popularity of the movie and the fact that they're already moving in this market.

    4. Re:No info on where it'll be picked up? by Surak · · Score: 2

      Or Sci Fi

  2. Invisibility a la Predator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will she still have to take her clothes off to become invisible :)

    1. Re:Invisibility a la Predator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Between page 56 and 57 (in the Dark Horse version at least), there should be a page showing the Major and her girl friens having sex. In the picture at the bottom of page 56 Motoko should be naked and her girlfrriens to. Have you not wonderd why Batou hits him self in the face? That's because the Major causes that when she discovers that he brain dived her while she was having sex.

      Search the net and you'll find the missing page.

  3. Makes sense by inkswamp · · Score: 2
    Normally, my attitude toward turning a movie into a series is not enthusiastic, but if any film ended in such a way as to beg for more, Ghost in the Shell is it. Fingers crossed that they don't botch it up by losing sight of the themes and philosophical points of the film.

    In fact, it almost seems like it was ended in such a way as to lead intentionally in to a series. (or a sequel.) Does anyone know whether such a thing was planned originally or not?

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Apreche · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ghost in the Shell was originally a Manga. You can buy the manga if you look around amazon or other books sellers. In the manga is pretty much the WHOLE story in detail. There is also Ghost in the Shell 2, which I'm not sure what happened to it. I can buy the action figures at Media Play for it, but I'm not sure if it was an anime or a manga. This series is pretty much the manga animated and not compressed into one hour, like the movie was. Remember most anime starts out as a manga. The manga usually has a lot more detail and a lot less plot holes, however it is also less shiny and requires you to read. It's also sometimes harder to get manga in English than it is to get anime in english. However, tokyopop (http://www.tokyopop.com) is helping solve this problem. Yay! ^_^

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    2. Re:Makes sense by Tom+Dunne · · Score: 5, Informative

      The manga of Ghost in the Shell is significantly more in-depth than the film. While most American fans love the anime (it is well done), I was always disappointed in it because it barely skimmed the surface of the printed story. The anime only followed the core plot that ran through the manga, neglecting some of the really interesting side stories that developed the characters. This was of course necessary to compact 300-some pages of work into a two hour film, but the end result wasn't quite as satisfying (not to this otaku, at any rate!). IMO, Ghost really needed to be done as a series from the beginning, and I'm thrilled to hear that it's being done. If you get into something like Cowboy Bebop, you can really appreciate the depth of storytelling that can go into an animated limited series.

      Regarding Ghost in the Shell 2, the creator (Masamune Shirow) has already finished and released the new series in Japan, and is in the process of converting it for an English-speaking audience. The first issue is hopefully due in October of this year, but don't hold your breath - Shirow is notorious for taking his time with these things. To keep an eye on how the manga translation is going, check out www.studioproteus.com and the fan feedback section in particular. Toren Smith updates more or less monthly, and almost always with news regarding GitS2.

    3. Re:Makes sense by randombit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The manga of Ghost in the Shell is significantly more in-depth than the film. While most American fans love the anime (it is well done), I was always disappointed in it because it barely skimmed the surface of the printed story.

      I agree that a movie would have been a better format for this. Most of the anime movies I've seen tend to be like that, particularly Akira and Ghost in the Shell. Though doing a whole series of Akira, and keeping the level of visual quality would have come at an outragous cost, I'm sure.

      Compared to the differences between the movie and print versions of Akira, the changes in GiTS are absolutely trivial. Not to say the Akira movie didn't rock (it still is about the best animation I've ever seen), but the manga has so much more detail it's insane.

      I only read the manga after seeing the movie (GiTS was the first 'real' anime I ever saw), so I've never felt too disapointed by the movie. Actually, it enhanced reading the manga a lot, because I would read sections that cleared up some obscure reference or statement in the movie, and think 'Oh, so that's what they meant!', which was kind of cool.

    4. Re:Makes sense by SageLikeFool · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ghost in the Shell 2 is Manga, but hasn't been officially translated to english yet. That is why it isn't for sale over here yet. If you are interested in more manga by Shirow Masamune, check your local comic book shop. Before Ghost in the Shell, he also did Dominion: Tank Police, Appleseed, Orion, Black Magic, and so on.

      GITS2 will eventually make it over to here (probably through a translation by Dark Horse if that isn't already happening), and I believe in Japan a movie based on it is already being made, though I could be wrong.

    5. Re:Makes sense by jandrese · · Score: 2

      Well, I had the feeling the GiTS movie was supposed to only be based on the Manga, not a direct adaption of the storyline. To be honest, the manga wanders around a lot and it would have made for a rather long and boring movie. Print media is different than film, you can't always do the same thing in both and have it work.

      That said, I hope they go into depth about the Fuchikomas in the TV series. I was really disappointed they didn't even make a cameo appearance in the movie. Maybe the TV series will take a minute at some point to explain why you need a full cyborg body if you want to enhance your strength and why you can't just replace your muscles with super strong servoes[1].

      [1] Arm bends as commanded.

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  4. from the article by nesthigh · · Score: 3, Informative

    broadcast and licensing outside Asia :: Bandai Entertainment Inc. http://www.bandai-ent.com/

  5. weekly vs. cenimatic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Back in the early 80's, when I was about 7...my absolute favorite activity was getting up Saturday morning to watch anime. I didn't know it was called anime, but I liked it anyway.

    As I grew older tho, I turned into a snob *grin* and decided that I needed a minimum level of artistic quality in order to enjoy anime. I still shake my head in disbelief every time I watch Akira.

    Anyway I wrote this post because GOS had fabulous artistic merit...and there's no way to reproduce that in a weekly. It just takes too much time to hand draw all those frames.

    1. Re:weekly vs. cenimatic by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2

      I had nearly the same experience. Didn't know it was anime, but I loved the stories and the animation style. Starblazers (Yamato) was the first that I remember watching as much as I could.

      I suppose I turned into an anime snob too, but more against dubs (ya, dubs suck), and genres (I have no time for pokemon, dragonball, ninja scroll, etc).

      I find myself watching less and less anime though, I don't know if that's because I'm getting older, or because everything is going domestic and just isn't as cool as it used to be when it was obscure and exciting (the golden age of fansubs).

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  6. In related news... by OneFix · · Score: 2

    The series Rahxephon has been picked up by AD Vision. For those that don't know, it's a series similar to Eva. The series is just finishing up its run in Japan, but it's almost impossible to find the subs now. I'm always hoping someone like Cartoon Network or Sci-Fi will pick up some of these better Mini-Series. That's the problem though, they like stuff like DBZ that they can rerun to death.

    1. Re:In related news... by tempmpi · · Score: 2

      Actually a lot of stuff has been picked up and was announced at Anime-Expo two weeks ago. I think they picked up many much better series than Rahxephon. Rahxephon is just a bad NGE ripoff.
      Pioneer announced "Mahoromatic", a nice and entertaining series from the creators of NGE, Gainax. They also announced "Chobits". Bandai announced "Argento Soma", a nicer NGE ripoff and "Infinite Ryvius".
      If you want to know why it has become hard to find Rahxephon subs now, you should check this node explaining the ethics of fansubbing. If you don't know what fansubbing is all about, you may check this node or the homepages of Animeco or Elite Fansubs. Two of the larger fansub groups. Look at "Jungle wa itsumo hale nochi guu" for an example why fansubbing is still usefull.

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    2. Re:In related news... by OneFix · · Score: 2

      a bad NGE ripoff.

      Ripoff maybe, but bad is an opinion. I personally think it is more likely to be aired in the US than Eva, but I still think it's a half-way decent show. I would have to agree that the design style is similar.

      Then again, BGC is technically a ripoff of Blade Runner, so it's all relevant.

      from the creators of NGE...

      And you'ld be refering to those SOBs who couldn't leave well enough alone and gave us "Death and Rebirth". The series was great until that.

      First, I know why it's hard to find the fansubs...I know all too well about the ethics behind it, and you CAN still find fansubs, they just aren't as easy. And it's really up to the group that's doing it. Some will stop releasing the fansubs as soon as the title is picked up, and some will not stop until the first commercial sub/dub is released. On the other hand, some of the lesser known groups pick up the remaining episodes if there are only a few left...in the case of Rahxephon there are 6 (I think) left...and another group has started doing the subs.

      As for fan subs, you're preaching to the choir ... After seeing the subs of BGC (the origonal), the dubs are laughable. (Pris with a valley girl accent) :)

      So, I can say that I know why they are hard to find, but that doesn't make one happy when I am following a series and right at the climax it's picked up by a commercial house and I have to wait a year or longer just to pick up where I left off.

      And I also realise why the dubs are necessary (mass market appeal)....

    3. Re:In related news... by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2, Redundant

      Ethics of fansubbing is a contradiction. Fansubbing IS piracy. The "rules" that fansubbers follow are simply a way to justify that piracy.

      For the record, let it be known that I download fansubs. For the things I greatly enjoy, I buy the DVD's to have a high-quality archive copy. For the things I don't greatly enjoy, I delete the files to make room for more fansubs.

      I used to be very "straight-edge" and would only buy R2 DVD's or Laserdiscs. This was especially true when US localizers who did things I didn't agree with (like ADV and the Nadesico overlays). I would import R2's to spite the American companies. Recently though, I have realized that R2's are in general a waste of money.

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    4. Re:In related news... by Yokaze · · Score: 2

      > Rahxephon is just a bad NGE ripoff

      Objection, sir.

      First, the "ripoff" part. Practically, you can reduce every story so much, so that it is practically a rip off of another story.
      (NGE is certainly not the first "Boy Fights Aliens in Robot"-Anime)

      Some minor details, which RahXephon contains in contrast to NGE and Argent Soma: RahXephon tells much more about the opponent, who is quite different from NGE and Argent Soma. Ah, and the Time in RahXephon is a bit more twisted.

      Second, the "bad" part. This is certainly a personal opinion, but I find the series well drawn and told, not to mention that the soundtrack is by Yoko Kanno. Have a look at her discography. I guess, she can choose the projects she works on.

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  7. Re:Ghost in a shell II graphic novel release by Tom+Dunne · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's hopefully due in October of this year. And keep in mind that it's not a strict translation. Japanese books, including comics/manga, read from right to left instead of the left to right style in English. That means the artwork is also designed to flow from right to left, and has to be carefully modified for English-reading audiences.

    Before you ask - no, you can't just mirror the artwork. Right-handed characters would become left-handed, Japan would have people driving on the wrong side of the road, all signs and writing would be backwards, etc. Most of the best-translated manga spends a lot of time back on the drawing table being layed out and adjusted to account for that.

  8. Re:Why does computer geek = anime geek? by Apreche · · Score: 2

    anime matters becuase it is quickly becoming very popular. It is the second time that somethign geeky has become mainstream thus decreasing the nerdiness of nerd-dom. The first time was when "normal" people started using computers in their homes. One of the main reasons for animes increase in popularity is peer to peer file sharing and divx ;-). Fansubbers are taking dvd rips of japanese shows, subtitling them before they are licensed and putting them up on the net for free download. They stop distribution when the show goes pro, and then everyone runs to media play to buy the anime on dvd. Not all computer geeks are anime geeks, and not all anime geeks are computer geeks. However, I go to RIT, the Rochester Institute of Technology. Our school consists of 60% IT/CS/Engineers, 40% Photo/Printing/Art, and NTID (National Technical Institute for the Deaf). The Anime club is one of the largest clubs on campus. The only club I can think of off hand that is larger is the F1 racing club.
    A lot of geeks like anime. Some like it too much, they are known as fanboys. If you want to know more about anime fandom, go to Otakon, if you dare. www.otakon.com

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  9. Re:Why does computer geek = anime geek? by OneFix · · Score: 2

    Animation is just another format, like film or games. Anime is moreso, because much of it is already of a more mature nature than say video games and is generally Sci-Fi or Fantasy related. Most computer geeks are "into" Sci-Fi or Fantasy (for what ever reasons) ... as well, most "Computer Geeks" play games of some sort and are therefore more open to the idea of watching animation ("it's not just for kids").

    So, it makes sense that alot of computer geeks, especially those that play video games will be likely to like Anime.

    I like Anime (wouldn't call myself an Anime geek), but I own DVDs of Akira, Bubblegum Crisis, and Eva ...

    And I would call myself a "Computer Geek" (I won't go into this, as it would be quite involving) ...

  10. Re:Anime Lovers by CrazyDuke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My 2 cents...

    I do not buy DVD's, CD's, Games, etc without watching/trying it first. When I try to do it blind, I almost always end up disappointed. I'm not donating $20 to the new-jet-fund of some old corporate fat-boy with me ending up with what might as well be an ordinary chunk of plastic.

    Yeah, I leech. I also have over 100 original DVDs(mostly anime), CDs, and tapes. Compare that to less than 10 CDs and a couple of tapes before I started leeching warez, moviez, and mp3z off the internet.

    Its not like just because people can and do get it for free, that they will not pay for it.

    As for purchasing bootlegs, I do not knowingly buy bootlegs. The one time I did end up with one, I got pissed because I purchased it thinking it was an original. (go ebay...)

    P.S. Beware of anime DVD's sold on the net with both Chinesse and English subs.

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  11. Re:Ghost in a shell II graphic novel release by (H)elix1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Before you ask - no, you can't just mirror the artwork. Right-handed characters would become left-handed, Japan would have people driving on the wrong side of the road, all signs and writing would be backwards, etc.

    Hey now... they don't drive on the wrong side of the road if you use a mirror -- they are British.

  12. Re:Question: by mj_sf · · Score: 3, Informative

    The series is based upon the manga. The movie was just a compilation a certain aspects of the manga, put together in such a way that, to a first time viewer, it would seem to make sence (well, maybe after a few viewings) but to someone whos had the manga for years now and read it cover to cover far too many times (me for 1) it ended up slightly dissapointing and fairly confusing on first view. This has (now) changed for me as even with the dissapointment, it is still a technically outstanding piece of animation and CGI.

    From what i have seen in the captured cells on Production I.G the series is looking fairly true to the manga, especially now that they have re-intruduced the Fuchikoma's (robots similar to spiders, som ewith their own personalities such as Batou's) that were criminally left out of the film adaption.

    I'm very much looking forward to this series, be it dub'd or sub'd. It will certainly fulfill alot of angst left by the poorly cut-and-pasted plot line of the film.

  13. Reality check... by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Many of us "nerds" also have interested in science fiction, sword & sorcery / dungeons and dragons, animation (computer and anime), electronic toys (gadgets and gizmos aplenty)... etc

    It's all part of our shared, socially maladjusted heritage. While you may or may not share all of these interests, it shouldn't be too difficult to be able to understand why Slashdot covers them...

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  14. Re:Ghost in a shell II graphic novel release by Batou · · Score: 2, Informative

    Before you ask - no, you can't just mirror the artwork. Right-handed characters would become left-handed, Japan would have people driving on the wrong side of the road, all signs and writing would be backwards, etc.

    Actually, this is exactly what is done in most cases - and it is certainly done in all of Shirow's works that have been pubished in Enlgish (yes I have most of them and have been a fan of his work for years). Shirow is unusual as far as the fact that he does most of the artwork conversion himself for these releases (mostly changing the shape and size of the dialog "bubbles", but he does other stuff too).

    But, the artwork is, in fact, mirrored, and right-handed people do indeed wind up using their left hands for everything.

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  15. Re:Why does computer geek = anime geek? by ashitaka · · Score: 2

    The central theme in a lot of anime, at least the ones of interest to Slashdot denizens, is concerned with human-technology interaction.

    e.g. Ghost in the Shell - involves AI, cybercrimes and robots.

    Nerd enough for ya?

    Personally I'm more partial to Miyazaki Hayao's productions and the manga of Akira Toriyama (Early Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump)

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  16. Cartoon Network pisses me off by Whammy666 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I love the Adult Swim concept at CN and I look forward to it each Saturday. But I'm really getting pissed off by their mid-stream programming changes. They got to episode 24+/- of Outlaw Star and dropped it. (It only had 2 more episodes to go to finish the story.) The same thing happened with Tenchi Muyo OAV, Tenchi in Tokyo, and Pilot Candidate. ARRGGHHH!! YOU ASSHOLES!!!!

    I tried to find some contact information on their website in order to scream at their programming director, but they seem to have strategically omitted it (or maybe I was just too pissed to see it).

    But I think a network that featured the more adult anime on a regular basis (and would actually finish a series) would be great.

    FYI: The best of Cowboy Bebop is supposed to be on CN next saturday (6 episodes).

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  17. Re:Why does computer geek = anime geek? by ndnet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anime is part of geekdom in general. Another reply pointed out that also part of this heritage is DnD-style medieval fantasy stuff and the like.

    These things are part of geekdom. You're a geek for collecting hundreds of Magic:TG cards, or for camping out in wait of Star Wars, or going to a Comic-Book con, or watching anime.

    We all have different interests, but one of the most popular right now is anime, which happens to be popular with my age group (15-20). My father also reads Slashdot. Does he give a hoot about anime? Of course not. He rarely even cares about "His Rights Online."

    That's why the categories exist. For exmaple, I loathe Katz. I could complain about him until I'm blue in the face, or I could block him. Mind you, I don't, because once in a blue moon he'll have a good point and exposition often ends up funny as heck, but if I wanted to badly enough, I could.

    Heck, up to about a year ago, I hated DnD and the like. Now my tastes have changed. Slashdot doesn't carry much on the subject, but maybe it did help show me a bit.

  18. Re:Why does computer geek = anime geek? by kir · · Score: 2

    Have you ever taken the time to read any of the other threads just like yours in every other anime article ever posted on Slashdot?

    Actually, no. As I stated in the parent, I hate anime, so I never really read them. And yes, I can disable the anime topic in my settings. I mean to nearly every time I see an anime post, but I always seem to get caught up in something else.

    But... have no fear. Someday I'll disable. I mean to as soon as I finish this post. Hopefully the phone doesn't ring or something.

    Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean it doesn't matter to anybody else.

    Damn. It's not like I'm demanding anime be done with on slashdot. Please. I was asking a question. Why so hostile?

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  19. UPDATE: Bandai got it by tempmpi · · Score: 2

    Bandai Entertainment USA just announced that they got the video and BROADCAST rights to the Ghost In The Shell TV series.

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  20. Re:Anime is discusting. by Dahan · · Score: 2

    That's swiped from True Porn Clerk Stories. (Recently featured on Memepool).

  21. I love you by perdida · · Score: 2
    Slashdot desperately needs a James Traficant crapflooder. In my opinion, Mr. Traficant is one of the few normal human beings in Congress.

    Keep up the good work.