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Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
asa writes: "Today mozilla.org released Mozilla 1.1 Beta. New to this release are full-screen mode for Linux, BiDi Hebrew improvements, Arabic shaping improvements for Linux, and significant improvements to Venkman, the best cross-platform JavaScript debugger on the planet. Binaries and release notes available at http://www.mozilla.org/releases/. You can read more about this release at mozilla.org and mozillazine.org and if you want to see how this release fits into the overall 1.1 development cycle there's a pretty picture available at the Mozilla Development Roadmap."
Could 1.1 be the version that AOL integrates with their client software?
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I would like to see better flash support, a better java, and more speed(i dunno aout linux but on my solaris it is slow :-( ).
But overall a good package and if we iron out the rough edges it is the best browser there is. :-).
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Here's my little soapbox and I'm a "highly modded" poster so I get the whole plus 2 before I'm modded as a troll some more. Mozilla may be a very capable browser, but shaping the article to play more into the fact that it has better language support than IE and still holds 99% of the functionality of IE would be a better story than just announcing every release and a brief summary of the changelog. The last thing I would like to see is a list of mirrors for software, I don't like having to wait 3 days because the only place I know to get the software is the link that slashdot posted that is far out of date. While this doesn't apply to distros and software like mozilla, it does apply to projects not hosted on sourceforge or that have a lot of bandwidth to spare.
I am very pleased to see that Mozilla is doing what some seemed would never happen and that's to make a browser that is not only free, but open source, runs on more platforms than I can name, and to top it all off, is actively developed on. I couldn't be happier with the way mozilla is working out, my main beef is that if /. wants to post PR articles or PR announcements at least say why the project is slashdot worthy, and moreso why the project is a benifit to all of us.
I use mozilla all the time, you know why? Because no matter what computer I'm on, I can run it. That's what I like about mozilla. I don't care if it isn't as fast as IE in page rendering, or if it eats up a lot of memory, or if someone thinks opera is better. I like mozilla and I think slashdot is really doing them an injustice by explaining that a new version is out and not the benifits of the project itself.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
The infamous profile-trashing between versions bug is still present. Comments indicate that it has to be fixed before Mozilla 1.x goes out as Netscape, or Netscape won't coexist with itself.
"Use of Mozilla's "quicklaunch" (AKA "turbo") mode may cause the deletion of user preferences. It is recommended that you do not run quicklaunch until this bug is fixed."
Checking bugilla shows a patch in the queue, here's hoping it makes it to one of the nightly's.
Mozilla has become so much better than IE lately that there is never a need to switch back and forth. Thanks Mozilla team, keep up the great work!
Actually, I've had really good luck with Hebrew support in Linux, much more so than Windows. I don't visit all too many Hebrew sites, but it seems to me everything's been rendering fine for a while now. The spacing is a little dodgy, though, and that could be what was fixed. That'd be nice.
In case any of you are paticularly interested in seeing an example (even if ya can't read it), check out:
http://www.haaretz.co.il
Conversely, a good check of Arabic support is at:
http://www.wafa.pna.net/AraText/arabic.htm
I can see that using Moz 1.0rc1, some of that Arabic is _definitely_ not rendering correctly. I'm not a speaker of the language, but it's pretty obvious some stuff is being rendered incorrectly.
I linked both an Israeli web site and a Palestinian web site to keep accusations of political bias away. It seems there's always _someone_ who would complain if I just gave an Israeli website in both Arabic and Hebrew. Everyone happy?
-Erwos
Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
Mozilla.org gets a lot of duplicate bug reports: 40-50% of a sample of bugs from April 2002 are dups. If you know how to search Bugzilla, you can get that down to 15-20%. (Knowing some jargon helps too, of course.) Unfortunately, the most widely advertised Bugzilla search tool, the query builder, is so complicated that many testers give up before finding their bug and report a duplicate.
There's a well-hidden search box on the Bugzilla front page that works a lot like Google. You can almost use it like Google, but there are several differences you should be aware of:
Other useful tools for avoiding reporting duplicates include the frequently reported bugs list and #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org. If you find yourself working in Bugzilla a lot, you can use the collect buglinks bookmarklet to get a list of bugs mentioned in a given bug report, which is useful because many bug reports include links to related bugs.
The shareholder is always right.
mozdev.org is the premier destination for those seeking Mozilla plug-ins, add-ons and enhancements. You can find all kinds of XUL projects, some made to work with Mozilla, some completely unrelated to Mozilla. Have a look, maybe a touch.
--Asa
Bookmarklets are bookmarks containing javascript code. Instead of taking you to another page, bookmarklets do things with/to the current page. Here are some bookmarklets for Mozilla that I have added since Mozilla 1.0:
"Fixing" annoying web sites:- Zap event handlers: removes event handlers, including those responsible for blind links and exit pop-up ads.
- Zap embeds: removes java, flash, background music, and iframes from a page.
- Zap colors: makes text black on a white background, and makes links blue and purple.
- Zap: combines "zap embeds", "zap colors", and "zap event handlers".
- Test styles: type in CSS rules to experiment or to create a temporary user style sheet.
Web development:- View Style Sheets
- View Scripts
- View Script Variables
Other:Several of these bookmarklets also work in IE 5.5, to the extent that IE supports DOM Level 2 and doesn't make me go too far out of my way to accommodate its quirks.
The shareholder is always right.
Point me to a cross-platform JavaScript debugger that beats Venkman from 1.1alpha (crossing at least Mac, Windows and Linux would be a good start, throwing in a dozen additional platforms would be impressive).
n -faq.html and then follow-up to this post pointing me to a better cross-platform JavaScript debugger and don't point me to one that doesn't do JS performance profiling because I require that.
If you're talking about the venkman that shipped with 1.0 then you're talking about a completely different beast. Seems kind of odd that you'd post about Venkman getting better one day than mozilla1.0 and we're telling you about one day having arrived with 1.1alpha.
Get current, (this venkman is many months worth of development improved from the one that shipped with 1.0) read the how-to/FAQ at http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/faq/venkma
--Asa
I don't know what you're going on about. I run Mozilla in KDE, and I've had antialiasing for months now, well before 1.0 hit. Debian includes it as a standard install option, and it can easily be turned on and off, and it will run with any X environment, including Gnome and Windowmaker.
Basically, if you don't have antialiasing, it's either your own fault or that of your distro.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
There is some fringing around the 'captured' butterfly and the hue shift to red made the eye area green, I should have pulled that area out of the selection. The purple underbelly is a little disturbing as well. Maybe I'll revisit this after I've had some sleep.
Mad props to the original poster who owns all copyrights and such.
Bleh!
Now that MathML is in Mozilla, we're all waiting for SVG. Too bad it's not in the beta.
There is a SVG enabled build for Windows, but not for Linux )-;
DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
I want to take this opportunity to pimp the imho hottest invention since sliced bread : gesture based browsing. Ok, maybe not the hottest, but certainly the most surprising; when I first heard of this, it sounded like one of those typical academic nutty ideas that all look great on a whiteboard, but are just a pain IRL (Black and White, anyone ?). But after trying it out for a month, I can say it just seriously, totally, completely, ROCKS. In fact, it is so good that I find myself trying to use gestures for regular windows stuff. Especially stuff like Minimize and Back would be really good to have systemwide, so you can just sweep a file explorer away rather than go aiming for that little '_' button..
The gestures are also a big convenience when you extensively use tabbed browsing.
In short.. if, like me, you thought this was a totally useless pet project of some academic... you're wrong. Get it now.
I'm currently running Mozilla 1.0 with XFT (Available here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/experim ental/xft/Red_Hat_7x_RPMS/1.0/SRPMS/), and it is just excellent. The font smoothing provided by XFT makes Mozilla look just amazing. (if you've never seen it, there is a nice screenshot available here) So, here is my question:
Is there anyway to upgrade Mozilla while still keeping the XFT core?? I think even doing a rpm -Uvh will overwrite the XFT portion and give me a nice, new 1.1b with crumbly looking fonts again, which I don't want to do. If anyone has any idea on how I can do this, please let me know. Thanks!!
Otherwise you would know: there's not a single posting by some slashdot "editor" which does not have typing, spelling, grammar, syntax and/or even semantic errors.
Slashdot "editors" do not know about spellcheckers and never do proof-reading. They even don't read the articles they link to and put misleading titles, or don't read what the other "editors" published a few hours before, which result in duplicate postings.
Please don't flame me: I also happen to make errors when writing, but at least I don't call myself an "editor", and english is the 4th language I learned.
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I have some various problems with Mozilla, but for the most part I like it a lot better than IE. Unfortunately, the Mail and News part is either lacking basic functionality or is just plain buggy. Maybe these issues are already in bugzilla, or I'm just too stupid to figure out a simple feature.
Mail and News passwords:
I've never been able to log onto a news server with Mozilla. Supposedly it's supposed to ask you for a username/password when you create the news account, but what if it doesn't? There's no place in the account options to set one. With mail accounts, if you change the password on the account (by other means), Mozilla just chokes when you try and log on with the old one and gives you no option to provide the correct password. There's no "wrong password, please enter correct one" dialogue, it just doesn't do anything. The account options area has a spot for a username, but not one for a password. I guess I could delete the account from Mozilla and recreate it every time I change my password, but that's stupid. Outlook Express will prompt for the correct user/pass if you don't log on properly, is it too much to ask for Mozilla to do that?
Am I missing something very simple to solve these issues? I'd really appreciate some help if so.