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Asteroid Fly-By on August 18

ke4roh writes "An asteroid will fly near the planet and be visible with binoculars from the northern hemisphere August 18, so says this article. Astronomers say it will cross the sky at 8 degrees per hour and fade out of view as it approaches the sun and hence goes through its various phases - full, gibbous, half... down to nothing. Such a show only comes about twice a century, so take a look before it disappears!" Another reader sends in a few useful links: "Here's the complete article from the folks at NASA Space Science with extra links including details on the astreroid's trajectory."

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  1. And .. by JPriest · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. I am sure NASA has an oil drilling team on stand by as we read this.

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  2. For everything else.... by cdf12345 · · Score: 5, Funny

    pair of decent binoculars: $60
    tank of gas to drive to dark location: $20
    Lawn blankets: $15

    The expression on your face as you realise some NASA mathmatican forgot to carry a one......priceless

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    1. Re:For everything else.... by drsquare · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      A large pair of pliars: £50.
      An electric cattle prod: £200.
      A blow-torch: £300.
      Some nipple-sized pastry cutters: £5.

      Torturing someone to death for rehashing another one of those tired Mastercard jokes: priceless.

    2. Re:For everything else.... by Spackler · · Score: 3, Funny

      A huge black cloth to put over the three quarter moon that night?

      Come on NASA. If you can't schedule stuff like this at the new moon, don't schedule them at all.

  3. Leonid by rigelstar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Leonid meteor shower was a great way for me to introduce my 6 and 3 yr old to astronomy. It was a night I will remember forever, as they will too hopefully. They still talk about the "stars falling from the sky".

    My kids are actually really excited about this event. There is nothing betting then getting kids into science then direct experience.

  4. Astronomers at play by tuxedo-steve · · Score: 3, Funny
    From the spacedaily.com article:
    Such data result in impressive 3D maps of asteroids, which have often surprised astronomers with their weird shapes. Some prove to be binary systems (one space rock orbiting another) and one even looks like a dog bone.
    Why is it that I'm picturing a couple of ageing hippy astronomers, passing around a joint and checking out the skies?

    ``Whoa, dude, that's rock's shaped really weird...''
    ``Yeah... looks like a dog bone or somethin'...''
    *toke* *toke*
    ``Heh heh... check out Uranus...''

    No, probably not. :)
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    1. Re:Astronomers at play by sharkey · · Score: 2

      "And that one looks like Jebediah Springfield...With his head cut off."

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  5. photo realistic sky generator software by kbroom · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stellarium is an impressive piece of free software for Linux and Windoze that renders the sky at any given time given your coordinates.
    I bet it will make it much easier for the untrained people to find the asteroid in the sky (considering its trayectory.

    1. Re:photo realistic sky generator software by plaa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Stellarium is an impressive piece of free software for Linux and Windoze that renders the sky at any given time given your coordinates.

      As for a more general star-browsing program, XEphem is great (free for personal use, sources available). It takes a little getting used to, but is very versatile with lots of nifty features, and it allows you to load star catalogs to increase the number of objects it knows.

      Any other astronomy programs somebody would recommend?

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    2. Re:photo realistic sky generator software by seanmeister · · Score: 2

      Celestia is pretty shweet too... not an astronomy package, but an OpenGL virtual universe that you can fly around in... scriptable so you can record demo movies, etc. Check it out!

    3. Re:photo realistic sky generator software by wnknisely · · Score: 3, Informative

      A number of people that I've talked with really like the free (beer) software Cartes du Ciel. You can find it at this website

      There a great OpenGl lunar atlas that I'm using now as well (beats the heck out of the paper versions) here

      There are links from either site to more software for variable star observering and sky chart contruction.

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    4. Re:photo realistic sky generator software by LMCBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I humbly submit my own project, a desktop planetarium for KDE:

      http://edu.kde.org/kstars

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  6. To help them out a little... by HiQ · · Score: 3, Funny
    We don't know yet what this asteroid is made of," he continued, "but we'll have a much better idea by the end of August."

    We can be quite sure that is *not* made out of:
    • Gouda cheese
    • recycled AOL CD's
    • Rubber
    • Cookie dough
    • ....
    Maybe that'll help them to narrow the options down :-)

    1. Re:To help them out a little... by hagar� · · Score: 2, Funny

      from the Galactic Weekly: "The Great Celestial Empire put down a revolt of primitive Earth creatures this week, by firing rubber asteroids into the crowd."

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    2. Re:To help them out a little... by isorox · · Score: 2

      We don't know yet what this asteroid is made of," he continued, "but we'll have a much better idea by the end of August."

      I'll hazzard a guess......

      Rock!

  7. Instructions... by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Wait for another asteroid story on /. (approx 5 minutes).

    2. Post bruce willis / liv tyler joke (approx 21 seconds).

    3. Sit back and watch the karma roll in (unknown).

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  8. Burn Karma Burn! by geekindustries · · Score: 2, Funny

    NASA's plan:
    1. Report doomsday asteroid heading for earth
    2. ???
    3. Profit!

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  9. 8888 by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It will be visible on August 18th (8/18), move 8 degrees an hour, and have a brightness peak of 8th magnitude?

    The astrologists and numerologists are gonna have a field day with this one. Time to get into the fortune business, being that programming is in the dumps.

    If the damned thing is also shaped like an "8", then we are never gonna hear the end of it.

  10. "Such a show only comes about twice a century..." by mraymer · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yeah, but when we get to that 1 in ~65 million asteriod, I really doubt anyone will be worried about missing the next one... ;)

    Anyone here remember comet Hykataki (sorry bad spelling)? Now that was an impressive show! Not only could you see it perfectly with the naked eye, but through field goggles or a small telescope it was truly a grand vision! The only drawback to having seen that is that everything else is kind of a let down... =:::(

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  11. Re:Sounds like fun! by yatest5 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry, in case of any problem, Bruce Willis is still there .. :)

    Bruce isn't that desperate, is he?

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  12. Re:slow! by alfredw · · Score: 2

    8 degrees / hour? is that even fast enough to notice movement with the naked eye?

    No, it sure isn't. Of course, seeing as the object will peak at eighth magnitude, it'll be 16 times dimmer than the dimmest thing that most people can see with the naked eye anyway, so no one will really care.

    A more interesting question is "will you be able to notice the movement in your telescope?" I happen to have a 4.5" Newtonian that I track stuff with in my backyard. Most of the stuff I track rotates 360 degrees in the sky in 24 hours. (And whatever anyone tells you about the Earth rotating - lies! It's the Celestial Sphere!) So that'd be... 15 degrees per hour.

    Is this noticable? You bet. A star will fly out of my field of view in around three minutes. So 8 degrees per hour means I'll have to adjust my telescope's pointing at least every six minutes. That's TEN TIMES every hour.

    Annoying, no?

    Alf

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  13. How often - Perception by msheppard · · Score: 2

    Strange how the articles "every 50 years or so," seems a lot mroe frequent then the "twice a century" the summary stated.

    M@

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  14. Twice a century? Not really by StupendousMan · · Score: 3, Informative
    From the article:

    "Flybys like this happen every 50 years or so," says Don Yeomans, the manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program office at JPL. The last time (that we know of) was August 31, 1925, when another 800-meter asteroid passed by just outside the Moon's orbit.

    Actually, asteroids pass even closer to the Earth every year; most of them are just smaller than 800 meters. In many cases, we don't detect the objects until after they've gone past.

    Here's a list of objects which have come closer to the Earth than 2002 NY40 in the past decade or so. The final column shows the closest approach in terms of the Lunar Distance (between Earth and Moon). For 2002 NY40, that's about 1.3.

    Name or Nominal Date +/- Nominal
    Designation YYYY-mmm-DD HH:MM D_HH:MM (LD/AU)

    1994 XM1 1994-Dec-09 18:54 00:02 0.3
    2002 MN 2002-Jun-14 02:02 00:02 0.3
    1993 KA2 1993-May-20 20:38 00:01 0.4
    1991 BA 1991-Jan-18 17:18 00:01 0.4
    1994 ES1 1994-Mar-15 17:16 00:01 0.4
    2001 BA16 2001-Jan-15 20:29 00:01 0.8
    1999 VP11 1965-Oct-21 18:47 19:28 0.9
    2002 GQ 2002-Mar-31 03:31 00:01 1.1
    1995 FF 1995-Mar-27 03:30 00:01 1.1
    1996 JA1 1996-May-19 16:35 00:01 1.2
    1991 VG 1991-Dec-05 09:22 00:01 1.2
    2002 EM7 2002-Mar-08 00:58 00:02 1.2
    2002 CU11 1925-Aug-31 00:42 05:33 1.2
    2002 CB26 2002-Feb-08 19:11 00:01 1.2
    2000 LG6 2000-Jun-02 21:38 00:07 1.3

    You can generate such lists yourself at The NEO Program's list of Near Earth Objects.

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  15. Disc of asteroid? Will it show phases? by hyacinthus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I notice that the article doesn't say anything about whether the asteroid will show an apparent disc from Earth, but this is easy enough to calculate, I suppose--

    Diameter of asteroid: 800 m
    Perigee distance: "1.3 x distance of Moon"
    Distance of moon: 384,000,000 m approx.
    Thus, perigee distance: 500,000,000 m approx.

    Angle subtended by asteroid: 800 / 500,000,000
    = .0000016 radians approx
    = .000092 degrees approx
    = .33 seconds of arc.

    And this is only at perigee, of course.

    By comparison, the disc of Neptune subtends about 3 seconds of arc (don't remember exactly), and just shows a disc in larger amateur telescopes. I don't think anyone with a pair of binoculars is going to be able to discern phases on this asteroid.

    hyacinthus.

  16. Just like OpenSSH, eh? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2

    You just want us all to run a trojanned Makefile that gives you a remote prompt, don't you. We're on to your games.

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  17. Re:Uh, flybys only happen once every 50 years? by p_trekkie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Asteroids zip by the earth fairly often. You can see the closest ones in the Potentially Hazardous Asteroid (PHA) section of the spaceweather.com page.

    What is unusual about this one is that it will be 8th magnitude, which will be easily visible in binoculars or a telescope even in a slightly or moderately light-polluted area. Most of the asteroids that zip by are 12th-14th magnitude and therefore only visible in moderate to large aperture telescopes with dark skies.

  18. Re:slow! by jafac · · Score: 2

    What's annoying is having a Celestron with an automatic tracker, but for some reason freaks out when you try to get it to do an auto-seek or an alignment. And a customer service department that seems to be perpetually out golfing or something. (I've never gotten a live rep on the phone).

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  19. please be more specific by SethJohnson · · Score: 2


    An asteroid will fly near the planet and be visible with binoculars....

    Which planet?
  20. no software necessary by phriedom · · Score: 2

    Star chart software in generally is pretty cool, but even someone who can only find the big dipper should be able to find this asteroid given the small map at the "trayjectory" link you provided. All you need to be able to find are Vega and Deneb. Vega will be the brightest star in the sky, and it will be pretty much staight up for most of the Northern Hemisphere at around midnight. Deneb will be the bright star just a short ways off to the north and east of Vega. There will be a 3rd bright star further south and a little farther off, called the eye of the eagle. These 3 bright stars make up the Summer Triangle that region of the night sky. You can't miss it, really. If you just look up and turn around in a circle, the 3 things that will stand out will be the big dipper, the summer triangle, and a bright orange star in the east called Arcturus.

    If you are not in to astronomy a little bit though, seeing the asteroid may well be anticlimactic for you. It will just be a faint star that moves against the backround.

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    1. Re:no software necessary by Seenhere · · Score: 2

      "... a bright orange star in the east called Arcturus."

      Um, Arcturus is in the west.

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  21. Specificity by PhxBlue · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which planet?

    What planet do you live on?

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    1. Re:Specificity by isorox · · Score: 2

      nor do we have intergalactic internet traffic, yet. (wow, would that ping time suck!)

      Not as bad as mine from the middle of nowhere greece!

      Seriously though, any aliens with a whopping big receiver can probably tune into my 802.11b network here

  22. Re:Disc of asteroid? Will it show phases? by n1vux · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't think anyone with a pair of binoculars is going to be able to discern phases on this asteroid.

    No, but rapid phasing will be discernable as a rapid drop in brightness, equivalent to apparent albedo drop -- much faster and less linear than increasing distance would account for. (Good point that we shouldn't expect to see the phasing, though. Nice to see back of the envelope reasonableness checks!)

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  23. Re:Twice a century? Not really by ke4roh · · Score: 2
    But you can't see those things with binoculars. You have to drag out the 10 m (394 inch) telescope to make them out. Of those in the list, the biggest one has an H (Vm) of 18.25 (1999 VP11, which came close in 1965), with most numbers in the mid to upper 20's. (Smaller number means bigger rock, so says the legend at the bottom of the table.) 2002 NY 40 has an H (Vm) of 19.03. Perhaps we might have seen 1999 VP11 had we known to look for it.

    Looking at the future table, we might get out the binoculars to see these rocks on the given days:

    1999 AN10 2027-Aug-07
    1999 RQ36 2080-Sep-23
    But there aren't all that many rocks that we know about on the way here.

    Twice a century? Perhaps a little more often - and if we get more funding for watching for the Big One, we'll likely find out about substantially more rocks coming close, so if you miss this one, there's a fair chance you'll catch the next show.

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