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The Golden Age of Cup Manufacturing

jonerik writes "The Washington Post has this article today on the disappearance of traditional 'small' (8 oz.) cups of coffee in favor of a larger concept of 'small' (12 oz.). In the case of Starbucks, for example, a truly small 8 oz. cup of coffee is still available, but it's called a 'short' and isn't listed on the menu. Why not? 'We still have it,' says Starbucks spokeswoman Lara Wyss, 'but we don't advertise it because of the size of the menu board, the physical constraints.' Yeah, sure. Disposable cup manufacturers have taken notice of the popularity/compulsory nature of larger cup sizes. The Sweetheart Cup Co. started manufacturing a successful 24-ounce hot-beverage cup about two years ago, and Kathy Deignan, the company's national vice president of marketing and account sales says 'The eight- and 10-ounce cups are pretty much gone.' Sweetheart also manufactures 7-Eleven's 44-ounce Super Big Gulp cups, and Deignan says the company is considering producing an 80-ounce cold drink cup - that's 5 pints, folks. Christ, how much do these companies think people need to drink, anyway?"

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  1. Quick reply by death00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was going to reply, but I have to piss...BRB.

  2. Um, what? by nickgrieve · · Score: 2, Funny

    What are we suposed to talk about guys?

    Um yeah, cups a getting bigger. Wow.

    er...

    1, Make big cups
    2, ???
    3, Profit!!

  3. Poor Sweatheart Cup Co syadmin... by xtermz · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....Guy took a job at a simple little manufacturing company, hoping for a stress free position, and then out of nowhere... his web servers get slashdotted....

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  4. Supersize Asses by stealie72 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Meanwhile, the 8 ounce asscheek has been upgraded to the 24 ounce asscheek.

    There will be trickle down from larger pants to larger chairs to larger coffins.

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    1. Re:Supersize Asses by Christianfreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      How unpatriotic can you be? Sarcasm at these patriotic Americans! The 80 ounce drinks mean more pants, and more chairs and more coffins! That my friend means more jobs ... communist!

    2. Re:Supersize Asses by NeMon'ess · · Score: 3, Funny

      That would be a blessing and curse for fit people like myself. Pants will become more expensive because the largest sizes will use more material, but the price is set for all sizes. Given enough complaints, perhaps airline seats in coach will finally become wider, good for me, but that means there are fewer seats per plane, so prices go up per seat. At least fuel costs won't go up or down because the weight of the fat fucks in the seats counterballance the reduction of seats. Coffin prices will go up unless a new extra-wide coffin size is made. Cremation prices will go up unless the price is by the pound. So the fattening of America is mostly a curse for me, damn fat fucks. How many Denis Leary fans who are also fat fucks are reading this?

  5. Being a breast man, by vegetablespork · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm in favor of the steady increase in cup sizes. I suppose this trend can benefit the ladies, too, since guys also wear cups.

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  6. Re:the human bladder and other useless facts by dattaway · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you sneeze, all bodily functions stop--even you heart!

    A sneeze is nothing more than a spontaneous brain abortion.

  7. Re:Is this just America? by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Funny

    We almost died on a recent trip -- the value meals came with 300ml drinks. That's the size of cup you'd get for a small orange juice in the states. it definitely is an american thing -- none of us could even ration out the liquid to cover the whole meal and we wound up going back for second drinks.

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  8. Someone was bored by gmhowell · · Score: 3, Funny

    And rehashed an old Dennis Miller routine. It didn't start with coffee cups. First I remembered was resizing of McDonald's cold cups in the mid to late 80's. That was fine then, but now, when I want a small, it means I really want what is called the 'child size'. Ironically, when you get a happy meal, you don't get a 'child size', you get something even smaller.

    The reason they don't put it on the menu board? It costs ten cents more for the 'small', but only has about 1 cent more cost involved. They 'lose money' (in the same way that pirates cause MPAA and RIAA companies to 'lose' money) by selling this size. That's why they push the barrel basket of popcorn at the movie theatre for 'only 25 cents more': because it only costs them 5 cents more, so they make an additional 20 cents.

    "Do you want to supersize that?"

    "No, moron. If I wanted to supersize it, I would have said 'Number 3, supersize', not 'Number 3, medium'" But I usually don't, as it is the owner/manager who will fire the drone if they forget to pimp supersize fries.

    (BTW, call me in to testify against that fat bastard suing the fast food companies. Listen lard-ass, just order a medium! I'm fat, so fuck you, I'll call you lard ass if I want. I'm fat because *I* shovelled garbage down my gullet, not Mayor McCheese.)

    Oh, and to those who say "the market will prevail": bullshit. McDonald's used to have an "All-American meal". Cheesburger (not 1/4 lb), fries (modern medium, traditional large), and a coke (modern medium, traditional large). It's exactly what I wanted. Doesn't exist anymore. Yes, the items are available separately, but have you ever ordered separate items at McDonald's? What a joke. Definately a roll of the dice as to whether those people get anything right. (I do this frequently. I'll get a medium two cheeseburger meal with an extra drink, sometimes extra fries for my wife and I to split. Then throw in a hamburger for junior.)

    Blah. Gimme a gun, a knife, and an open fire. I'll get your supersized meal as soon as a buffalo comes walking by.

    (Not even 30, and I'm becoming a 'bitter old man', ranting about 'the good old days')

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    1. Re:Someone was bored by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

      I do this frequently. I'll get a medium two cheeseburger meal with an extra drink, sometimes extra fries for my wife and I to split.

      (Not even 30, and I'm becoming a 'bitter old man', ranting about 'the good old days')


      It's a good thing, too, because with that diet, you don't really have any time to lose.

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  9. Re:Not just drinks... by kiwimate · · Score: 5, Funny

    Be assured it's just as silly here. I can't comment about Pizza Hut, but I know darn well that several fast food outlet pre-programmed droids get mighty confused when you ask for a small size of anything. "We have medium, large, extra large, and colossal -- what size would you like?"

    To which I reply, "I'd like small, but you're not going to play along, are you?".

    Blank stare, followed by "Medium, then, sir?"

    "If that's the smallest you have, then yes."

    Honestly, how stupid do you have to be to then ask me if I'd like to supersize that? Apparently, approximately as stupid as a significant proportion of American high-schoolers, who really make me want to say, "see, now, that's why you're wearing that silly hat".

    Anyway, I digress. And, apart from that, I'm getting off the subject.

    It's marketing, I'm sure, pure and simple. And the most depressing thing is it evidently works. Well it must, or they wouldn't keep doing it, now, would they? Yes, we really are stupid enough that we accept them calling the smallest size on the menu "medium", in blatant contradiction of all that is sensible and logical in the world, and buy drink sizes that ought to have a health warning from the surgeon general about over working your bladder and other sundry bits of internal plumbing.

  10. Re:Is this just America? by Azog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well... I think it depends on the drink as much as the culture or country.

    For example, in my one experience in a Munich beergarden, I found that Coke came only in small glasses.

    Beer, on the other hand, could be ordered in a few sizes, including "large", "very large", and "2 litre, two-hands-required-to-lift the 20-pounds-of-glass-and beer" size.

    That was a good size.

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  11. Re:Customer demand by jazman_777 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Of course I never order tall or grande, at starbucks alone I indulge in the venti. :)

    I ran "venti" through Babelfish, and it means "for the corpulent American".

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  12. Re:Not just drinks... by blowhole · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never introduce abstract concepts to someone who needs pictures drawn on the register buttons.

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  13. Re:44 oz? Try the DoubleGulp! by unicron · · Score: 5, Funny

    You turn and say "Bitch, hold this" like any normal person. Sheesh.

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  14. Deignan's Law of Cups by PMuse · · Score: 2, Funny

    The volume in ounces of a "large" disposable beverage cup will double every 10 years. ;)

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  15. High level languages by Bouncings · · Score: 3, Funny

    With the growth of high level languages like Perl, Python, and TCL you'd think that coffee cups could be getting smaller, not larger. This is the strongest evidence against Moore's Law I've seen in a while.

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  16. Re:Except that by Exedore · · Score: 3, Funny

    True. I should have said Can the digestive tract, bloodstream, and bladder combined handle 80 ounces of liquid before your first trip to the bathroom.

    When I was in college, we used to have contests to see who could drink the most beer before having to take a leak (the loser would have to throw an extra fiver into the pot while playing poker or some such punishment). The record was eight beers (96 ounces). That's 80 ounces with a tall-boy to spare.

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  17. Re:OK... by Rydian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next thing you know, they will be able to handle e-mail.

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  18. the human bladder in perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I suspect you'd probably piss most of it within an hour or two.

    Several weeks ago I had to provide a urine sample as part of the interview process for a government job. The problem was I couldn't do it! So the doctor gave me a 6-ounce cup, directed me to a water fountain and told me to just keep drinking water until I could pee.

    Given that I didn't fill the cup to the point where it would overflow, I estimate I must have had about 5 ounces in each cupfull.

    At least 40 cups and less than an hour later, I was shivering and bloated, but I could finally pee. Less than an hour after that, I desperately had to pee again, only this time the urine was crystal clear. I stood there peeing for several minutes (people came in, did their business, left... other people came in, did their business, left, etc.). When I got home about an hour after that, I peed clear again. That was probably about 200 ounces (2.5 of those 80-ounce monsters), or 6.25 quarts, which is just over half the amount that killed a U.S. Army trainee.

    During January 2000, a 20-year-old trainee in the Army drank around 12 quarts of water during a 2- to 4-hour period while trying to produce a urine specimen for a drug test. She then experienced fecal incontinence, lost consciousness and became confused, then died from swelling in the brain and lungs as a result of low blood sodium.
    Rule of thumb:

    One monster drink is probably OK, though not healthy. Two is definitely unhealthy and wasteful (since you'll be pissing it out in an hour or two anyway, not absorbing it). Three will make you feel very sick and probably disoriented. Four or five will kill you.

  19. The good news is... by wikkiewikkie · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least KFC and movie theatres can save some money since their chicken and popcorn buckets can now double as cups for soda.

  20. Re:Not just drinks... by JavaTenor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Frighteningly apropos: "...These go to eleven."

    And I think Pizza Hut should change their sizes to large, extra-large, and GALACTUS, DEVOURER OF WORLDS.

  21. Re:My rant. by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny
    At washingtonpost.com, this was a conscious effort that served a purpose.

    At one typical "yay for us" session where the publisher/CEO was trying to drum up support for an initiative the editorial staff opposed, I was obliged to clap with the majority. It would have been inappropriate not to. I noticed that one of the editors was not clapping, and I asked him how he could get away with that.

    "I don't want to spill my coffee," he said, pointing out several other editorial staff members who were not clapping and holding coffee cups. "Next time, bring a cup."

    So the next time I grabbed an empty coffee cup on my way to the meeting and just stood there holding it when everyone clapped. It was a good lesson in civil disobedience. When I left the company over a year later, and my boss was giving a BS speech about how much I meant to the company, I brought a coffee cup.

  22. Won't fit in the cup holder by serutan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope they never do make that 80-oz cup. If I put one of those in my cup holder, the whole damn computer would tip over.

  23. Re:2 observations by spork_karma · · Score: 2, Funny

    Five pints of water would be fine and dandy, but with five pints of Coke you've got over half a pound of sugar and 933 Calories. Hope you're getting it lots of veggies with your super-ultra-whopper-double gulp.

  24. Re:the human bladder and other useless facts by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Funny
    Useless facts about the human body [geocities.com]

    "If you went out into space, you would explode before you suffocated because there's no air pressure"

    Hey, i can make up facts about the body too!

    Did you know that if you unwound your brain it would reach halfway from the earth to the moon?

    Well except for the brain of the person who compiled that list, his would be lucky to make it around the block.

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  25. Re:Is this just America? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 3, Funny

    They call it a Darwin because drinking it weeds out people that can't handle their alchohol? =)

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  26. Re:Is this just America? by g00z · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here it is:

    http://www.theonion.com/onion3011/cola.html

    As a side note, a little guy like myself (135lbs) can't handle anything bigger than a small these days. I usualy order the "kiddie" meal whereever I go. I sort of sucks to not be a lard ass in america, because the sizes of drinks and meals here were made for those people in excess of 300 lbs I think.

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  27. Re:Is this just America? by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hahaha, I like that one!

    In all seriousness, I'd like to state that the people of Darwin, NT Australia drink more beer per capita than any other place in the entire world, including germany.

    *sniff*

    God I'm proud to be an aussie

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  28. Re:the human bladder and other useless facts by The_dev0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, you also forgot: Did you know that if you unscrew your belly-button, your bum will fall off?

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