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Gabe writes "Looks like the NWN linux client page has been updated with screenshots!.
Finally, some decent proof that Bioware is coming through for us linux folks. Maybe it's time to open my copy soon :)" My replacement CPU fan is here,
so I theoretically can now play NWN. Can't wait for the good modules to start
being developed. In the meantime, we should use it as the prettiest IRC
server ever... where you can kill your friends instead of just kickbanning
them :)
Same game ... same graphics. Easy to fake a desktop.
With companies like Bioware bringing support to the Linux platform, Linux will be more and more attractive to Joe Sixpack. Whoever said Linux would never survive on the desktop?
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this was on linux games about 2 days ago. and the big fuss here is that bioware is dedicating time to the linux client AT ALL, and esp. not months after.
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2 days ago? Look at the screenie - the date is ~1:30 on 8/16. That's about 24 hours ago by my clock-maybe slightly more/less because of time zones, but not much.
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You have to turn on accept pop up windows for it to work in opera.
it works with galeon you fat bastard...
... that Bioware uses KDE too?
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I have a correction to make:
Looks like the NWN linux client page has been updated with screenshots!
Should read: has been updated with a screenshot!
Works just fine in Mozilla.
I think the real news is that companies are finally starting to consider Linux as a gaming platform also.
I've allready bought the Windows NWN client. Anyone know if Bioware plans to charge us again for the linux client?
Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
er.... that's blizzard.
I can't check on the full screen version, but it looks like the desktop background is copyrighted by apple...
I'll be at CompUSA purchasing NWN the day the Linux client comes out (assuming I can buy the Windoze package and download the Linux client gratis).
Thank you for the screenshot. Progress is good!
Thank you for porting your game to Linux, and when you're done, I'll reward you with my business.
Sincerely looking forward to NWN on Linux,
Zoward
"Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"
Okay, i realize that the Linux port of NWN is something that we've all pined for, begged for, and are still waiting for. But come on, a single screenshot is news?! Firstly, how can we be sure that it isn't fabricated at all? And secondly, i'd be much happier if we could, say, download some alpha client code; something more substantial than a mere screenshot.
I still think Bioware should have made good with their promise of bundling the Linux, Mac, and windoze versions in one box.
Anyway, assuming the screenshot is really authentic, it's nice to see progress on one of my favorite games being ported to Linux, and i just hope the Linux version comes out real soon. Right now, the only reason i boot into windoze is to play NWN. Hopefully that's gonna change.
I know there are a lot of us here waiting on that client. Let's show them their linux support was worthwhile. Head out and buy the game the day the linux client is released. You'll get to play the game you want and they'll see a nice large bump in the sales and go "whoa".
Liberty.
Now if you only could get decent 3d support without recompiling your kernel...
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I bet it would run faster still on fvwm or twm or no window manager at all.
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Just wondering if anybody knew what sort of specs you'd want for your Linux box to run NWN.
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Well, I've read about apps as fake-WMs but I never figured out how to use it. Any hints? :-)
I use ICEWM by default
Im sorry, but this is one of the buggiest games EVER. Its fun, but the bugs really detract from it (corrupted saves, come on).
I have noticed over the past 3 years that people dont see the beauty of linux.
/usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.59.ebuild /usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.60.ebuild, and I then have gaim 0.60!
they know that its free and that its under a GPL licence and blah blah blah.
But they dont know how friendly linux can be.
It has everything you can think of.
It has games, the list is to long list, but thanks to transgaming.com the most popular games are working.
GTA3 and Warcraft III to name a few.
and how NWN.
Linux has amazing driver support, almost every video card I can think of is supported by xfree86.
Either with 2d support or 3d support with dri.
Nvidia makes drivers for linux that are better than the windows counterparts. Tomshardware.com has proved this in a couple of their benchmarks.
Chipsets, networkcards, soundcards, software/hardware RAID, tv-cards, EVERY THING is supported with linux
Linux also has the opensource advantage, if you dont like it, fix it.
for example, I have been using WindowMaker for years, its been great to me, but I have been noticing that kde has gotten better and better, but every time I try it I get annoyed because it didnt have a feature I wanted that Windowmaker had, I wanted to be able to shade and unshade windows by putting the mouse on the top bar and scrolling up and down. This feature was not included with kde3 so I never used it. So I was talking to some buddies of mine, and I mentioned that it sucked not having that feature, and with in 10 min, my buddy got the feature working with the latest cvs of KDE3. Here is the patch http://linux.darylstimm.com/kwin-wm.patch
Now kde 3 has everything that Windowmaker has plus tons more, and I can finally run KDE apps at the speed they were intended to be ran at. nothing worse than waiting 10 seconds for konq to load.
Kde3 and Gnome 2 are very very good for the newbie. I have my sister running kde 3 and she has no problems at all.
She loves it.
Linux also has great browsers, 3 years ago that was not the case, but currently I think they are better than IE. Mozilla and Konq look beautiful with Anti Alaised fonts, and tabbed browsing. I cant ask for anything more.
But one thing I do have to say, is that linux is only good if you have the right distro, a distro that can deliver uptodateness, stabity, ease of use and Speed. So far the only distro that I have found to do this is Gentoo Linux. Gentoo Linux is wonderful, its by far the fastest distro on the block, it compiles everything from source and downloads dependencies for you so you will never see dependency hell. It has very uptodate packages, if a program is released it normally takes gentoo 5 hours before its in gentoo due to the amount of users that gentoo has. And if for some reason its not in portage you can simply make your own ebuild (a ebuild is a bash script that tells portage how to compile the program and what dependencies it has).
So if Gaim 0.60 came out I could just cp
Just that easy!
No more waiting for redhat or debian to update and make packages.
Say you dont want to wait all day for gentoo linux to be installed, you can use their stage 3 packages, which is binary based and you can get everything installed very fast and easily.
there is nothing easier than emerge package to install a package.
Also Gentoo has grown so much its currently the biggest channel on irc.openprojects.net, even bigger than debian.
I dont recommend gentoo to people that dont have a p3 or higher and I dont recommend gentoo to newbies. But if I had to recommend a distro I would say Redhat Limbo 2 or Mandrake 9 beta 3, to the newbie and slackware to the person that has a slower system.
Linux also has openoffice, koffice, abiword, gnumeric, and tons of other Office type programs that can read and modify Microsoft doc files. and they are getting better and better.
With Winex and Wine we can finally start showing windows people the benifits of Linux, if the are suck using windows because one of their favorite apps doesnt work in linux, they can try wine or winex. most of the time you can get the program to run at native speeds, but I still recommend for users to try searching freshmeat.net for replacements of their favorite apps. because 9 times out of 10 linux already has something that will replace that windows app.
Linux has finally gotten some pretty good video and sound editing software, Cinelerra 1.0, audacity, Reborn 1.0 and many others.
Crossover makes it easy to use Quicken, IE, Office, and many others apps under linux. Word2000 opens faster than it does in windows.
Crossover also makes it easy to play quicktime and other non native linux codecs in your browser.
Xine and Mplayer are both working on Sorenson v1 (SVQ1)and SVQ3 support so we wont even need crossover. and Xine already has xine plugins for mozilla and konq. Xine and Mplayer also make very good dvd players.
ever want to back up your dvd to divx? now you can dvdrip is your new best friend, its a front end to transcode and will encode your dvds into near perfect divx quality. I have all my favorite movies backed up to 3 cds.
Anything else I could have missed? I dount it.. Linux has taken the world by storm and will continue to grow and evolove on the desktop.
And for those people that say the linux kernel sucks and that freebsd is so much better, just wait for 2.6...;-)
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I can run the NWN Client under Linux *right now* in Wine. The only thing you need to make it work is the nocd crack, because Wine doesn't like the direct CD-ROM access that the copy protection uses.
But other than that it works decently; it crashes occasionally, but so does the real thing, right? At least this doesn't bring your whole system down...
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Where is the BeOS port they were promising 5 years ago...
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oh wait... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/22/14202
Darn.
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I found NWN to be a second rate Baldur's Gate with the only major change being the use of a completely 3D environment. The shear number of load screens is ridiculous and the game becomes very monotonous at times. I was excited about gettign NWN but after playing it once, I doubt I'll be getting much replay value out of it unless a VERY cool module is released.
I'm not sure if it works with WINE or Crossover Office but you might consider getting Dungeon Siege instead. Not only were the graphics better, the total lack of loading screens (except for when you load a saved game or start a new game) was VERY, VERY cool. I guess this game spoiled me and I expected too much from NWN.
Also, not only is there a toolkit available to develop your own DS modules, there is a gmax module designed specifically for DS so you can make your own models for use as characters, objects, and terrain nodes. The DS community has also joined in to help develop tools to write skrit scripts and edit current modules. Granted, these dev tools require Windows but so does the Aurora toolkit for NWN.
I think it's at the same place BeOS is...in Limbo!
Not to be off topic, but I'll bet you still have most of the Opera default settings along with the banner ads going, don't you? I mean, don't get me wrong, I use Opera and love it. But wanting the ability to hide your pr0n with mearly one click is not a good reason to switch browsers. ;)
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But will it be open source? I'm guessing not and for good reason - obviously bioware will not want to share its coding techniques with the world.
Somehow I suspect that this will be 'ok' with the Linux community which is interesting considering the fuss everyone normally makes about open source, but hey what do I know.
I think it's great that decent games are making it to Linux, and with RedHat7.3 Linux is definitely becoming a more attractive option to the average user. I just need Steinberg to port Cubase SX to Linux and I'm ready to move!
To clarify what a few previous posts didn't seem to quite get, NWN originally advertised shipping the Windows, Linux, and Mac clients together (okay, they *originally* advertised BeOS too, but we'll ignore that). They have quite clearly stated that even though the Linux binaries did not make the final box, they will be available free for anyone who has the Windows CD to use. The Linux Server is already available for download, and the client will be when it is released.
I use Linux on nearly every machine I work with, except one: my gaming computer. I keep this machine around with Windows 98SE and some nice hardware so that I can play the games I want, when they come out, with a minimum of hassle. I'm not interested in trying to force the industry to ship more products for Linux, although I'll certainly try it out when they do. Linux is productive, fast, and highly customizeable. Windows is compatible, optimized, and wide-spread.
I believe a great many people do exactly the same thing. It's just nice to have a dedicated machine for games, and using Windows simply works best.
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The wheel it turns, around and around, with an ancient rumbling sound.
Getting to the shot was a pain in the ass. Actual link to screenshot is here.
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Exactly. And the graphics aren't that good, either. The whole game is tile-based. It may look nice for a couple of days, but then you notice that it's always the same handful of tiles being repeated over and over again. And the toolset is a joke; all it lets you do is rearrange the prefab tiles, you can't actually make anything of your own.
I appreciate their effort porting it to Linux (perhaps it'll influence others), but there really are a lot of games I'd rather play than NwN...
You're obviously just talking about the single player module that shipped with the game, since that's the only way you could possibly make such broad statements about how "boring" or "repetitive" NWN's gameplay is, or how bad the story is.
Personally, I've almost entirely ignored the single player game. I'm having far more fun using the toolkit and scripting language to twist the game around what *I* (and the people I DM for) want to play. I'd think the "Linux audience" would be far more interested in that than in a simple little single-player game...
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Just wondering if anybody knew what sort of specs you'd want for your Linux box to run NWN.
It shouldn't be that different from the Windows specs, seeing as they're running on the same hardware. From the Neverwinter Nights page:
Now, if you want a playable game that runs faster than one frame per second:
<exaggeration><!-- Some of these devices don't actually exist yet -->
- Intel Pentium 5 or Athlon Clawhammer processor
- 1024 MB RAM
- 4.7 GB HD space
- CD-ROM drive fast enough to shatter CDs
- NVIDIA GeForce 5 video card or equivalent
- T1 Internet connection
</exaggeration>Will I retire or break 10K?
Until Bioware releases more tools, all user modules will look the same too. There's no way to have churches, castles, aqueducts, statues, etc. simply because they're not included in the original tilesets and there's no way to build them from scratch or import them from a 3D modeller (as there is with pretty much any other game these days).
Half-Life, for example, has some great mods but is, itself, an excellent game. When I buy an RPG I expect a good story and good gameplay. Something Origin managed to deliver a decade ago and something that Bioware seem unable to deliver despite spending 4 years making the bloody game (probably 3.9 years writing the engine, 0.1 years writing the story and "quests" and 5 minutes testing the result).
It's tile-based. It's 2D (it looks 3D but you can't move over somthing that you can move under - sort of like the original Doom). The voice acting is dreadful (need I say "Aribeth"?). Most written dialogues are just as bad. The story is totally inconsistent and uninteresting (they are training swordsmen to fight a disease? please!). The "unlimited" toolset is more limited than Doom't map editor.
Yes, there are some people making reasonable modules, but they are constrained by the engine's limitations. And I definitely don't see why I should pay 60 bucks for a game and then have to rely on 3rd party developers (working for free!) just to get some decent content.
Linux or no Linux, I don't think I'll be buying any more Bioware games. They have their focus wrong (just as EA have their focus wrong with many of their "sports" games, that may look realistic but play completely wrong).
Now if only Valve could get Origin and Looking Glass' staff together and feed them for two or three years, I think we'd see what can be done in terms of RPGs with today's technology.
What do you mean?
I have several open windows full of porn which I can close just by exiting Opera?
Did I get it?
This is great to see this screenshot but there are still some outstanding questions that need to be answered. The first is. How will us Linux folks be able to install this game. As far as I know certain game data is in an Installshield exe on the windows cd. Bioware released the Linux dedicated server binaries but you have to install the game on windows and patch it on windows than copy the files over to Linux. Since there's no tool to extract the game data out of the exe for Linux how can we get the gamedata off of the cd? I've been reading the nwn forums and as far as I 've read, there is game data in an Install shield exe so this could be a big problem. Another thing is how will we be able to update the game. Will Bioware port their autoupdater to Linux or will we have to install the game on windows and patch it on windows than copy the game data over?
Funny, your only gripes that have anything to do with any future content that comes out for this game is that it's not currently easy to add in new tilesets, and the lack of a z-axis in the engine. You then proceeded to gripe about more things that are entirely limited to the single-player game.
I completely agree that the game needs more tiles.. that does not, however, doom original modules to being repetitive and exactly the same. The module I'm currently working on looks nothing like other modules that use the same tileset, thanks to the use of placeables, lighting, fog, creatures, and scripting.
Most of your gripes completely ignore over two-thirds of the game.. the multiplayer, DM-run component, and the toolset. Obviously you don't care about them, and this game was obviously not targetted at you. I'm having a blast with those two parts of the game, as they are far beyond anything similiar.. and I don't really care about the single-player game that you think so poorly of.
*shrug* oh well..
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Go ahead, pour all your spare hours making modules for Microsoft's inferior game. Yes, let Microsoft finally bring order into the confusing world of computer gaming. We will all be grateful.
The game content is still NOT free, and you'll have to buy a windows NWN cd to get it. This client only lets you play the content you've already bought in Linux.
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"Can't wait for the good modules to start being developed."
There are already lots of good modules. Check out The Spires of Ravenloft
The heat from below can burn your eyes out
As far as I recall, Baldur's Gate does not have a DM Client
Yes, I'd imagine a Lunix loser such as yourself would get a woody from being able to sit around online and tell other people what to do.
You fucking pathetic power freak. Hey, guess what, there's a real world out there! And you don't need to calculate your THACO's till they're coming out of your asshole to be able to enjoy it!
Even if I'm impressed by Biowares portability I think the Linux-port is a waste of time and money. Very few linuxusers will pay for it so the chance of getting the investments back is minimal.
The time is better spent on the Mac port or consoles maybe for that matter.
If only more game companies would be willing to do this, I would *never* have to reboot again! :)
Once again big props to the guys at Bioware, keep up the good work!
I just hope I have new hardware by the time the client is released. My computer beats the min reqs, but it will not run (driver issue for TNT2, I think). I hate it when companies don't put realistic min specs out for their products.
I was disappointed when I bought the game that the Linux version wasn't on it. The last thing I had heard was Bioware was going to release the Win/Mac/Linux version on the same CD. Guess I hadn't been staying up on it at all. Well sometime in the future I will be able to play the Linux native version of this game... I am happy for that at least
Ok, so where's the troll here? Is it the fact that I can run the NWN Client in Wine, the fact that you need the nocd crack, or the fact that the NWN Client crashes sometimes?
Oh, it's the $3 crack; I'm sorry... can I have some?
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I and some others have problems running any 3D games on our athlon/duron. It is probably a via chipset bug. You can see details at:& atid= 100387&aid=522096&group_id=387
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail
So I would ask you to specify me your system setup. (as motherboard (with chipset), graphic card, kernel version, X version, distribution).
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