"in fact the search engines and Facebook have hardly complied -- there are still search results and Facebook pages for this company"
The DMCA doesn't require that links to the company be removed - it requires that the service provider stop their distribution of a copyrighted work. From TFA, it sounds like only Facebook had a direct download link to the copyrighted work, and that they assisted in its removal. As someone else mentioned, to make the download completely unavailable you would need to send a DMCA notice to the hosting provider (Masterhost, according to RIPE) and hope that this Russian company respects U.S. copyright law.
Getting search engines to delist entire companies isn't really what the law is intended for, even if it sometimes succeeds.
Too bad gamecopyworld doesn't think there's any need for a crack for Mass Effect, simply because you don't need the DVD in the drive.
The sad thing is, before all of this started, I intended to buy Mass Effect (and Spore) as soon as they came out. At this point, though, I'm starting to not want to even deal with buying the game and hunting down a crack. I still play games I bought years ago - if people are already hitting activation problems with Mass Effect then there's no way I'm going to pay for it and end up with a useless disc after EA stops supporting it.
I just tested with a friend, the same youtube URL failed to go through twice (and not a rickroll or anything, just a cat on a treadmill). Went through fine on yahoo chat, though. And she just tried sending one back, getting a message that it couldn't be delivered.
The DRM still only allows three total installs for the lifetime of the game This is exactly why I'm not going to buy the PC version of Mass Effect right away, even though I was previously thinking of getting it as soon as it came out. I'll be holding out until my future use of the game is no longer dependent on the whims of EA/Bioware. Whether that is due to an official patch or piracy, I really don't care.
I have tons of games that came from companies that are no longer around, or companies that have completely changed since those games came out. I've reinstalled my OS or upgraded my computer countless times since those games came out. They still work fine for me, and I don't have to jump through hoops every time I need to reinstall the software I paid money for.
I seriously doubt EA/Bioware will be quick to release a patch to fix this once the game is out. So, even though I fully intend to buy the game, I'm stuck with cheering for the pirates.
NOTE: Poster is not responsible for the wrath of the world if someone actually finds a way to deface the moon. Besides, it was supposed to be a Coke logo, not the Magic Number...
Coke logo? All this time I thought it was supposed to be "CHA".
TFA says, in its summary, "Cremated Remains of 200 Lost in Mountains After Trip to Space".
TFA also says "the UP Aerospace SpaceLoft XL rocket and its payload nosed into space on a suborbital trajectory"
Where does it say they didn't get into space?
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You can use sunbird/lightning just fine with Zimbra's iCal support, no additional plugin needed. The only thing lacking is the ability to send out meeting invites, but that doesn't seem to be in sunbird yet. Is there any other support you've found missing?
Actually, it is very useful to say that. If you're accused of something you haven't done, the option exists to respond with a lawsuit to have the courts tell the accuser to shut up (and possibly pay damages). It doesn't matter that you're not specifically named if the accusations include and affect you.
You can obviously say, "I don't think there's a problem, but you're publicly saying I have a problem. Either tell me what the problem is so I can resolve this, or stop slandering me." You're attempting to resolve the (alleged) issue, and a lack of response implies that you're right that the allegation is untrue.
Microsoft either needs to pony up some information or stop accusing their competitors of violating their patents. They are making public statements that cause harm to competing companies, and that could cause harm for any person or company involved in Linux development.
Which is precisely why TFA says that they request "every leader in the Linux world, and companies invested in Linux, to stand up and demand that Steve Ballmer show the world where Linux violates Microsoft's intellectual property." These people are harmed, and they have a right to know exactly what they are being accused of rather than being subjected to Ballmer's vague threats.
Have you looked at the number of patents most large companies hold currently? If everyone were expected to go searching for a needle in a haystack every time someone says "hey, you're violating some patent I hold in some way" then nobody would ever get anything done.
If the side being accused is asking for more information about exactly what they're being accused of, you don't get to just sit back and continue vaguely accusing them without responding, especially in a case where the person you're accusing is liable for greater amounts of money the longer you keep them in the dark. If you've got a valid problem, you're expected to work to resolve that problem.
And in any case, it's rather difficult to negotiate a license agreement for a patent when you haven't be told what you're supposed to be violating. If Microsoft doesn't respond to an attempt at a resolution, there is absolutely no reason to assume there is any patent infringement occurring.
Patent holders aren't allowed to just say, "you're violating our patents and we'll sue you whenever we want", either. This would show a serious effort on the part of the open-source side to resolve any problem. If Microsoft doesn't reply with anything substantial, then they get hurt both in the P.R. department and if they ever do sue.
"Why didn't you work with the other side at all when they openly attempted to resolve this multiple times outside of court?" is not a question you want the judge asking at the beginning of a case.
As you point out several times in your post, Fedora is not aimed at enterprise usage. The maintenance work at fedoralegacy wasn't aimed towards the enterprise.
What you seem to be missing is that you're looking at a volunteer supported, non-enterprise effort that is closing down, and somehow comparing that to distributions that are aimed at the enterprise and have enterprise funding to support legacy updates. You also seem to somehow be comparing a distribution that issues a new version every few months with bleeding-edge additions with other distributions that are kept stable (and, those distributions are kept stable specifically because they are aimed at the enterprise).
You're not comparing apples to oranges "in some sense". You're comparing apples to oranges, period.
The rep switched from cents to dollars immediately after making the calculation, and wouldn't realize that he'd have to multiply by 100 to reach that number.
Evidently, to both reps, 71.85 (or whatever it was) is 71 dollars, regardless of whether you were starting with a number in cents or not. If they were asked to calculate in cents they likely would have multiplied that number by 100...
Actually, Novell's position is that SCO sold something to Microsoft and did not pass on the proceeds to Novell (as SCO agreed to when they originally bought the business they paid money for).
If anyone is accepting money for something they didn't really sell, it's SCO and their "linux license".
Gametable, by the guy who does the "Casey and Andy" webcomic, is pretty good as a simplified whiteboard. It's a java app, and works cross-platform (I run one instance on a linux system as a server, and the players all use different Windows versions to run it). It's not as full-featured as something like OpenRPG, but it is also a lot easier to set up and learn. It covers the basics, and doesn't focus on particular systems other than choosing between square or hex grids.
No built-in web cam or file transferring, but it has a whiteboard, text chat, dice roller, and unit markers.
"Insert "loggers" for "children" and "forest" for "cherry tree" and see how the public opinion would turn. Sure, more trees are harmed but many more human lives are harmed as well. Seems to have a few things in common."
Darn 12-year-old loggers.. just ruining our forests. Why can't they just go to school and leave our environment alone? Always acting like they're just "playing", but we all know they're really hardened criminals at heart.
Telling their parents on them is too good for them! They must be taught a lesson!
Easy.. in this case, it would be much more like your phone company charging Walmart more for you to call them to order something.
Otherwise.. yeah. Walmart already pays their own phone company. They don't need to pay mine too, especially when that extra cost will come out of my pocket in the end either way.
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"in fact the search engines and Facebook have hardly complied -- there are still search results and Facebook pages for this company"
The DMCA doesn't require that links to the company be removed - it requires that the service provider stop their distribution of a copyrighted work. From TFA, it sounds like only Facebook had a direct download link to the copyrighted work, and that they assisted in its removal. As someone else mentioned, to make the download completely unavailable you would need to send a DMCA notice to the hosting provider (Masterhost, according to RIPE) and hope that this Russian company respects U.S. copyright law.
Getting search engines to delist entire companies isn't really what the law is intended for, even if it sometimes succeeds.
And I present the following countering evidence to the idea that real names do anything to increase civility: http://imgur.com/ub51D
Too bad gamecopyworld doesn't think there's any need for a crack for Mass Effect, simply because you don't need the DVD in the drive.
The sad thing is, before all of this started, I intended to buy Mass Effect (and Spore) as soon as they came out. At this point, though, I'm starting to not want to even deal with buying the game and hunting down a crack. I still play games I bought years ago - if people are already hitting activation problems with Mass Effect then there's no way I'm going to pay for it and end up with a useless disc after EA stops supporting it.
I just tested with a friend, the same youtube URL failed to go through twice (and not a rickroll or anything, just a cat on a treadmill). Went through fine on yahoo chat, though. And she just tried sending one back, getting a message that it couldn't be delivered.
I have tons of games that came from companies that are no longer around, or companies that have completely changed since those games came out. I've reinstalled my OS or upgraded my computer countless times since those games came out. They still work fine for me, and I don't have to jump through hoops every time I need to reinstall the software I paid money for.
I seriously doubt EA/Bioware will be quick to release a patch to fix this once the game is out. So, even though I fully intend to buy the game, I'm stuck with cheering for the pirates.
"I'm pretty sure there is no prior art for Google bashing."
Here you go.
(Yeah, I'm bored too)
NOTE: Poster is not responsible for the wrath of the world if someone actually finds a way to deface the moon. Besides, it was supposed to be a Coke logo, not the Magic Number...
Coke logo? All this time I thought it was supposed to be "CHA".
TFA says, in its summary, "Cremated Remains of 200 Lost in Mountains After Trip to Space".
TFA also says "the UP Aerospace SpaceLoft XL rocket and its payload nosed into space on a suborbital trajectory"
Where does it say they didn't get into space?
You can use sunbird/lightning just fine with Zimbra's iCal support, no additional plugin needed. The only thing lacking is the ability to send out meeting invites, but that doesn't seem to be in sunbird yet. Is there any other support you've found missing?
Actually, it is very useful to say that. If you're accused of something you haven't done, the option exists to respond with a lawsuit to have the courts tell the accuser to shut up (and possibly pay damages). It doesn't matter that you're not specifically named if the accusations include and affect you.
Now you're just trying way to hard to troll.
You can obviously say, "I don't think there's a problem, but you're publicly saying I have a problem. Either tell me what the problem is so I can resolve this, or stop slandering me." You're attempting to resolve the (alleged) issue, and a lack of response implies that you're right that the allegation is untrue.
Microsoft either needs to pony up some information or stop accusing their competitors of violating their patents. They are making public statements that cause harm to competing companies, and that could cause harm for any person or company involved in Linux development.
Which is precisely why TFA says that they request "every leader in the Linux world, and companies invested in Linux, to stand up and demand that Steve Ballmer show the world where Linux violates Microsoft's intellectual property." These people are harmed, and they have a right to know exactly what they are being accused of rather than being subjected to Ballmer's vague threats.
Have you looked at the number of patents most large companies hold currently? If everyone were expected to go searching for a needle in a haystack every time someone says "hey, you're violating some patent I hold in some way" then nobody would ever get anything done.
If the side being accused is asking for more information about exactly what they're being accused of, you don't get to just sit back and continue vaguely accusing them without responding, especially in a case where the person you're accusing is liable for greater amounts of money the longer you keep them in the dark. If you've got a valid problem, you're expected to work to resolve that problem.
And in any case, it's rather difficult to negotiate a license agreement for a patent when you haven't be told what you're supposed to be violating. If Microsoft doesn't respond to an attempt at a resolution, there is absolutely no reason to assume there is any patent infringement occurring.
Patent holders aren't allowed to just say, "you're violating our patents and we'll sue you whenever we want", either. This would show a serious effort on the part of the open-source side to resolve any problem. If Microsoft doesn't reply with anything substantial, then they get hurt both in the P.R. department and if they ever do sue.
"Why didn't you work with the other side at all when they openly attempted to resolve this multiple times outside of court?" is not a question you want the judge asking at the beginning of a case.
Yes, but then we might end up confusing non-computer users and non-physicists alike when we start talking about "kits" and "kites".
Normally we'd be all for confusing those sorts, but isn't quantum computing confusing enough already?
As you point out several times in your post, Fedora is not aimed at enterprise usage. The maintenance work at fedoralegacy wasn't aimed towards the enterprise.
What you seem to be missing is that you're looking at a volunteer supported, non-enterprise effort that is closing down, and somehow comparing that to distributions that are aimed at the enterprise and have enterprise funding to support legacy updates. You also seem to somehow be comparing a distribution that issues a new version every few months with bleeding-edge additions with other distributions that are kept stable (and, those distributions are kept stable specifically because they are aimed at the enterprise).
You're not comparing apples to oranges "in some sense". You're comparing apples to oranges, period.
"Who ever heard of .002 dollars?"
These are the sort of people who cause gas stations to post prices like "$2.139" instead of "$2.14".
He tried roughly that.
The rep switched from cents to dollars immediately after making the calculation, and wouldn't realize that he'd have to multiply by 100 to reach that number.
Evidently, to both reps, 71.85 (or whatever it was) is 71 dollars, regardless of whether you were starting with a number in cents or not. If they were asked to calculate in cents they likely would have multiplied that number by 100...
Do you know how much sugar is in cereal these days? You're promoting childhood obesity!! Think of the childeren!!!!111!!
Actually, Novell's position is that SCO sold something to Microsoft and did not pass on the proceeds to Novell (as SCO agreed to when they originally bought the business they paid money for).
If anyone is accepting money for something they didn't really sell, it's SCO and their "linux license".
Gametable, by the guy who does the "Casey and Andy" webcomic, is pretty good as a simplified whiteboard. It's a java app, and works cross-platform (I run one instance on a linux system as a server, and the players all use different Windows versions to run it). It's not as full-featured as something like OpenRPG, but it is also a lot easier to set up and learn. It covers the basics, and doesn't focus on particular systems other than choosing between square or hex grids.
No built-in web cam or file transferring, but it has a whiteboard, text chat, dice roller, and unit markers.
"Insert "loggers" for "children" and "forest" for "cherry tree" and see how the public opinion would turn. Sure, more trees are harmed but many more human lives are harmed as well. Seems to have a few things in common."
Darn 12-year-old loggers.. just ruining our forests. Why can't they just go to school and leave our environment alone? Always acting like they're just "playing", but we all know they're really hardened criminals at heart.
Telling their parents on them is too good for them! They must be taught a lesson!
Bah. Gimme the old days, when we scraped the pictures on a cave wall with charcoal, and then just ran by it really fast...
funny... I thought it was the 6th Horseman...
It's a zero-based indexing scheme, naturally.
Easy.. in this case, it would be much more like your phone company charging Walmart more for you to call them to order something.
Otherwise.. yeah. Walmart already pays their own phone company. They don't need to pay mine too, especially when that extra cost will come out of my pocket in the end either way.