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August Netcraft Results - Apache up 6%, MS IIS down 6%
An Onimous Cow Herd writes "Augusts Netcraft Web survey results are now out. This month's results show a dramatic upsurge of nearly 6% for Apache and a corresponding drop for MS IIS! At this point, Apache's decline has dramatically reversed, regaining the ground it lost to IIS starting mid-2001 and currently Apache's market share stands the highest since Netscraft started their monthly surveys."
I claim this first post for the hot Ukrainian chick running Apache in the kitchen.
Looking at the graphs and data, I'd hardly call it dramatic and wave it around yet -- ooh, apache's growing, and microsoft isn't, and soone they'll switch and we'll all be right back here again.
If it can stay like that long enough, then maybe that's something to talk about.
Take that, Microsoft!
Jonahweb.com has stuff.
It seems to me a hard thing to believe that a swing that big could happen in a month. Anybody have any explaination for how it happened.
Maybe people are finally deploying the new version of Apache? Or is this just sampling error?
..what this survey won't tell you is what products are being used for truly mission critical, complex, back-end processing (high, medium, or low volume). That's where companies will spend their money on licensing (not as important for OS obviously), support, training, etc.
So, yes, this is a victory for Apache, but it's a bit hollow. What's the point of having all the market share if very few people make not very much money on it?
One could say that I'm expecting too much of these numbers, and that might appear to be true. But let's not forget how many times the Netcraft numbers have appeared here and how often people will gloat about Apache's figures.
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the second graph doesn't show a sharp decline in IIS usage...so are IIS users switching to apache, or are new sites choosing apache over IIS...or both?
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From Netcraft's site:
Around the Net
Microsoft loses around 6% share this month, as register.com continues to fluctuate between using a Windows and Linux front end, and homestead.com , which originally based its business model on support from advertising, cleared away over a million sites. Homestead recently raised $5M from its investors to assist its transition to a paid for serivces model. To complete a bad news month for Microsoft's share of the survey, Reuters reports that the Federal Trade Commission will investigate the relationship between Verisign and Interland with respect to marketing domain names. The NSI domain parking system hosted at Interland is the other large repository of parked sites on the Microsoft platform. Earlier in the year large numbers of sites were reaped at Namezero, which had a controversial relationship with NSI regarding reselling domain names.
It would be interesting to know what kind of traffic each web server tends to take. It just seems to me that the end user perspective would be important here. If 90% of the machines out there run IIS, but the average person mostly accesses Apache machines, which would you say is the dominant server software?
Unfortunatly, I cannot think of an easy way to do any such overview.
While one may argue that a web composed of Apache servers is more secure than a web composed of IIS, it's better yet to have a plurality of servers. I know we're not down to one or even two servers, yet. But we should keep in mind that "World Domination" by a web server (or even OS) is not a particularly good outcome.
It's unfortunate that the computing industry has this completely stupid "One Leader" mindset. First it was IBM, then Microsoft, and even if Linux is a more benign "One Leader" than the other two, it's the "One" in there that's flawed.
We need to re-orient our heads a bit, and IMHO the Linux camp is almost as guilty as the Windows camp. Mitigating factor, at least the Linux camp begrudges *BSD the right to exist, but is it any better than the Windows/Mac relationship?
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
The emergence of a de facto standard is inevitable. It's called the Virtuous Cycle. Users and vendors are more likely to use and invest in the market leader, which increases is market lead. Rinse and repeat. For better or worse, that's why Windows rules the desktop today. It's easier and cheaper to just support one standard.
cpeterso
16 and 44.2, respectively.
If you look down the page for the number of active websites instead of the number of total websites you see that Apache gained 1.43% and IIS lost 0.51%
There is a lot of difference between active sites and "parked" inactive sites. On the netcraft site you can find a good discussion of the difference between total sites and active sites.
The 6% swing seems to be the result of some major web parking sites switching to Apache.
I love to see open source advance, but we need to be as honest as possible in selecting statistics to present.
Stonewolf
Other holds steady at 12%.
Although not as popular as Apache and IIS, Other offers an incredibly scalable and diverse development platform; and although its share may wax and wane over time, it never drops to zero: In Other surveys of Other products and markets, not once has any Other competitor been successful at completely eliminating this tenacious brand. (Some Independent checks by Some Independent regulatory body ensured that the numbers remained accurate, although that Some-body could not be reached for comment.)
- undoware.ca
It looks like Apache's share hasn't had 2 months of consecutive growth or shrinkage since early 2001. We'll have to want until next month to see if this is the start of a trend, or just one more blip.
This survey also doesn't cover large corporate internal networks. I've found that a surprising amount of corporations will use web-based interfaces for transmitting information over the internet. The last large corp I worked for used some small IIS servers (which incidentally, all of us in the web-development branch secretly hated) for the INTRAnet, and apache webservers for both the INTRAnet and INTERnet services.
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yes, apache rocks. I run it on my win2k server and it is stable as a rock, go apache!
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the exact opposite is true. Apache was declining by 3% and MS/IIS grew by 5%. Remember it is a sample not all servers out there.