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One Year After September 11

One year ago today, at 9:12 eastern, we posted World Trade Towers and Pentagon Attacked amidst the events of that day. Since Slashdot is really just a discussion site, I felt the most appropriate way to handle this anniversary is to simply do just that. I hadn't read those stories since the day it happened, and I really am at a loss for words. But I'm sure many of you won't be. And thanks to OSDN for turning banner ads off for the day.

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  1. Re:TV coverage feels wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    none of the major networks are running commercials. cnn, nbc, abc, cbs, msnbc, espn, etc.

  2. Re:TV coverage feels wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    WNBC (New York) is showing the ceremonies without any commercials.

  3. I will not forget the one or many by vcbumg2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I will not forget Edward Earhart, 26, transferred to the National Ice Center last December after serving a three-year stint at Pearl Harbor. He, too, died during the Pentagon attack. Following in the Navy footsteps of his father and grandfather, Ed made meteorology a career -- his family talks about how Ed always relished tracking weather. Early this month, on his last visit home, Ed captured the curiosity of preschoolers by talking about clouds and weather in his cousin's classroom. Just as his friend Matthew Flocco, Ed earned high respect for his unflinching willingness to get a job done right. He talked often about his close family, their farm in Kentucky, and the Detroit Lions. He loved computers and was about to learn golf. In his memory, Ed's family has created a fund to help build a veterans' memorial.

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  4. The Real Effect of September 11 by michael · · Score: 5, Informative

    As the Associated Press summarizes them:

    Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
    By The Associated Press

    September 5, 2002, 11:44 AM EDT

    Some of the fundamental changes to Americans' legal rights by the Bush administration and the USA Patriot Act following the terror attacks:

    * FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigation.

    * FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records requests.

    * FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

    * RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

    * FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

    * RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

    * RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.

    Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press

    Yay for liberty and freedom! We are Americans! Look how free we are!

  5. Re:TV coverage feels wrong by zoombat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fox is going commercial free for 24 hours.

  6. Best media coverage by chrysrobyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    For your best media coverage in the US, please turn to listener supported NPR. Here in Austin, TX, I have the impression that Clearchannel is taking a day to build a brand name. NPR is doing what they always do, trying to represent as best as they can the events that happen.

    Save bandwidth. Listen to the radio. Or, if you're at work and can't get radio reception (like me), their live program stream is available in Quicktime, Real, or Windows Media. Politics aside, most people's computers can handle one of those programs.

    Their online coverage is available here, and their program schedule is here. Please note that all times are in Eastern time.

    1. Re:Best media coverage by matzim · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or, even better, find your (or somebody else's!) local NPR station and see if they stream too so that we don't /. NPR's website... Use the "mirrors" people...

  7. Re:Got me thinking... by Des+Herriott · · Score: 5, Informative

    And:

    September 11 (1973) US-backed coup overturns democratically elected government in Chile, leading to thousands of deaths, tortures and "disappearances"

  8. Re:Got me thinking... by FTL · · Score: 2, Informative
    > March 28, (1979) 3 Mile Island

    Huh? Why does that belong there? Not a single person died. Nobody was injured. Granted, it was a PR disaster.

    I'd add the Nedelin Catastrophe to your list. October 24 1960. Over a hundred Soviet rocket scientists burned alive. Destroying the USSR's ability to compete in the Moon race. Imagine what space would be like today if the space race continued beyond the Moon...

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  9. Re:ted hennessey by gonar · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...He was a Geek. Just last week he setup DSL and 802.11b networking in his house....

    should read, Just the last week before he died, not just last week.

    sorry,

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  10. Schedule of NYC Events by CritterNYC · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are a lot of events going on in New York City through Sunday to commemorate the attacks on 9/11. I have posted a schedule
    on the WorldTradeAftermath.com site.

    Best wishes to you and yours, today and throughout the week.

    Regards,
    John

  11. Re:Got me thinking... by Arcturax · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thank you for pointing that out, I just learned about this the other day in fact.

    Here is a link:http://www.americas.org/News/Features/200110_ After_the_Attacks/200110Chile.htm

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  12. Re:Got me thinking... by stanmann · · Score: 2, Informative

    April 26,(1986) Chernobyl
    April 20,(1978)Korean Airlines flight 007 shot down by Soviets in Russian airspace

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  13. Not really by danrik · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is the right thing to do, though. Over the past few days, on TV and elsewhere, I have seen many "tributes" to the people who died on that day. TV shows commemorating the heroism of the New York emergency personell, the heroism of the people on the flight that did not crash into a building, etc. I even "half watched" a cople of these, mostly because I was too lazy to quit coding long enough to find a remote to change the channel. On every single one of these specials, I saw something that made me lose all respect for what they were trying to do: Commercials. If you think about it for a moment, TV stations are still charging for that advertising, and since they know that a sentimental American public will be watching those advertisements, I would imagine that they are charging a boatload more for that airtime. At that point, to me at least, these specials become less about "honoring the dead" and "remembering the tragedy" than they are about shameless and blatant corporate profiteering off of a tragedy. This simple action has placed Slashdot and OSDN a cut above the rest in my eyes, and I salute their action. /-Dan

    1. Re:Not really by someguy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was watching the History channel and was very happy that, even though the program was paced for commercials, they did not show any. Instead the breaks consisted of interviews with NY firefighters.
      If anybody is reading this and wants something that isn't sensational that deals with 9/11/01, try the History Channel

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  14. Re:Got me thinking... by dlkinney · · Score: 2, Informative

    April 4th, 1968: Martin Luther King, Jr. assassination.

  15. Re:Got me thinking... by Jonathan_S · · Score: 2, Informative

    If your going to list Three Mile Island you should also have the really bad nuclear accident

    April 26 (1986) Chernobyl Power Plant exposion.

  16. Re:US Response by Troed · · Score: 2, Informative
    You _do_ know that the CIA has performed terrorist actions against other supreme nations I hope? The US was convicted for one of those, in Nicaragua. The information is publically available.


    I feel as sorry for an Afghan peasant as I do for stockbrokers in the USA. bin Laden considered him at war with the US - the US consider themselves in war with the whole of Afghanistan. You're both completely mad.

  17. Re:civilians on the planes by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is so ridiculous. If any terrorist group has a problem with the US government they can attempt a coup. Personally, I think it's about time for a change of government, although I don't want to see Afganistan's form of government here. Laisez faire capitalism or just plain anarchy would be nice though. I'd even fight for that and risk my life and all.

    But blowing up a couple of tall buildings full of civilians is just plain stupid. It accomplishes nothing. Just senseless murder, like the work of a serial killer for instance. The killing of civilians always accomplishes nothing. If you want to overthrow a government, you need to defeat(or convert)its armed forces. There is no other way. So called "terrorism" is useless. I agree that the Pentagon and Camp David *are* valid military targets to an enemy. You're right about that not really being "terrorism". But most of the deaths were in the trade center. They screwed up with the military targets.

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  18. Heroes, victims, and Communication by stonewolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    On the anniversary of September, 11
    2001, I want to talk about the difference between the victims onboard
    the first three airliners and the heroes onboard flight 93. What was
    the difference? Why did the people on flight 93 fight back? Why did
    the people on the other planes just sit and die?

    The answer comes down to communication and how knowledge forced the
    passengers to change their survival strategy. Everyone wants to
    live. Until 9/11/01 the best known strategy for surviving an airline
    hijacking was to sit in your seat, cooperate with the hijackers, and
    wait it out. That strategy worked because until 9/11/01 hijackers were
    trying to get hostages to trade for concessions and publicity. But,
    that changed on 9/11/01. On that day the hijackers wanted airliners to
    use as weapons. And, they counted on the passengers sitting in their
    seats and being cooperative to allow the plan to work.

    On flight 93, the passengers fought back. Why? Because they knew that
    three other hijacked airliners had been used as weapons and everyone
    on board them had died. When they knew they were onboard a weapon
    their survival strategy changed and the scope of their survival
    strategy also changed. Their choices no longer affected only their own
    lives. Now, theei actions also affected the lives of hundreds or thousands
    of people on the ground.

    Given the choice of sitting quietly in their seats and waiting for
    death or fighting and having a chance to live, they chose to fight for
    their lives and the lives of the people on the ground. They knew that
    if they won they would live and so would an unknown number of people
    on the ground who were targeted by the weapon they were flying on. They
    also knew that they could die and still save people on the ground. At
    that point the correct thing to do, the moral thing to do, the action
    that saved the most lives, was to fight. They fought.

    We that given the same choice many people through
    out history chose to do nothing and died as cowards and victims. Those
    who chose to fight we deservedly call heroes.

    But all that misses the whole point. The reason that the heroes of
    flight 93 fought is that they knew they had to fight or die. They knew
    because there was an air to ground phone on the back of the chair in
    front of them and they used them to find out what was going on. It was
    free, unregulated, communication that made the difference. It was that
    basic freedom to communicate that let them know they needed to
    fight. It was that same that let us know they did fight. It was their right to be
    informed that let them become heroes.

    As people who use the Internet, the most free and open communication
    media every developed, we are honor bound to fight. To fight any
    attempt to reduce the freedom to communicate. To fight to spread the
    right of freedom of information and communication to everyone in the
    world.

    Flight 93 proved to the world that free people given accurate
    knowledge of their situation will make heroic choices and take heroic
    actions. Are we heroes who can make the same choices? Will we fight to
    protect and extend the right to communicate that allowed the heroes of
    flight 93 to become heroes?

    I hope so. I believe so. Let's roll.

    Stonewolf

  19. Re:DISPELLING THE AMERICAN OIL MYTH by Kwantus · · Score: 2, Informative

    finally, a worthwhile comment on /. now how do i give out mod points?

    Tajikistan(?) will probably beat out Iraq once Unocal gets its pipeline through Afghanistan built. (You should also look into Karzai's former executive work and Armitage's former consulting work for *tahdah* Unocal.)

  20. Re:Terrorism? by rediguana · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wrong wrong wrong. Check out what your law enforcement agency in charge of terrorism says. You'll note that it explicitly says 'the unlawful use of force and violence'. Waving a grenade around is not terrorism; it is threatening , will promote fear in the crowd, and probably illegal, but it is not terrorism. Now if they were to pull out the pin, throw it into the crowd, and claim to be doing it to promote a some agenda, then yes that would be terrorism. It doesn't become terrorism until a violent or forceful act takes place.