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Lawrence Lessig's Personal Past and Supreme Court Future

Slyfox writes "Ever wonder how Lawrence Lessig became one of the most notable figures in the fight over free speech and intellectual property on the internet? Wired has an excellent article about Lawrence Lessig's life; it beginings with his start as a right-wing Republican, and continues by following the events of his life through law school, contributing to the Microsoft anti-trust case, and becoming a top cyberlaw expert. The article describes both his successes and failures, and it forshadows Lessig's biggest challenge yet: arguing Eldred v. Ashcroft before the US Supreme Court in October."

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  1. Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is no way the Supreme Court will award this one to the plaintiff (Eldred). The Constitution implies a sort of limit on copyright, but unfortunately it is totally ambiguous. In this sense, the case is already doomed. I expect the decision to be at least 7-2, and possibly even 9-0.

    However, I suspect the justices are mostly sympathetic to the idea that there is significant erosion going on, that an intention of the Constitution is deliberately being ignored. To that end, the opinions will hopefully have harsh words for the legislators who passed this law, and may even contain a veiled threat to further extensions.

    1. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by dmoynihan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I dunno what'll happen. Scalia's on their side, hence the focus on harm to the public in Larry's final briefs. You will find many who share your viewpoint, of course.

      But it was while surfing sites like LawMeme, GrepLaw, and Copyfight, among others that I thought about what might be the worst development to come out of this, from a copyright holder's standpoint.

      You've got a whole generation of law students following along, rooting for Larry, and sharing his belief that copyright as currently constructed, only benefitting the holders, is wrong (Michael Hart's too-easily dismissed manifestoes, as the reporter condescendingly put it, echo this view).

      And that same generation of law students may very well find a lot of other ways to beat up on the publishing industry (hint here: the industry's biggest market is schools, while prices are set rather high by a few players). It's quite possible that industry types will win the Eldred battle but lose the war.

      We'll know soon enough.

      Go get 'em, Larry.

      When I grow up, I want to be a Karma Whore.

    2. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Fiver-rah · · Score: 5, Insightful
      There is no way the Supreme Court will award this one to the plaintiff (Eldred). The Constitution implies a sort of limit on copyright, but unfortunately it is totally ambiguous.

      You missed the whole point of Eldred v. Ashcroft.

      Eldred v. Ashcroft is not predicated on the argument that copyright must be limited. The argument goes like this. The copyright clause in the Constitution is trumped by the First Amendment. The First Amendment holds supremacy. The only reason copyright has subsequently been held to be constitutional is that on balance it promotes expression. That is, the Constitution establishes a quid pro quo--it gives copyright holders a temporary monopoly; in exchange, it encourages sharing of art and science. Thus, on balance, copyright promotes expression, and it's constitutional.

      The argument Lessig makes is not that the "limited term" clause is violated. It is that the act violates the quid pro quo. It gives to copyright holders without maintaining anything in return. In fact, it takes from the public, which is in direct contradiction to the spirit of the founders. He argues that the extension of copyright does not make anyone more likely to express themselves. In fact, they retroactively extend copyright, which makes no sense in the context of the spirit of the Constitution. The point is to encourage expression, but the Sonny Bono Copyright Act applies to works which have already been expressed. As such, it does absolutely nothing to promote progress (and in fact may hinder it), and therefore it is an unfair limitation of the freedom of expression.

      Lessig's argument is a first amendment one; the "limited term" argument really is just peripheral.

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    3. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Xtifr · · Score: 5, Informative

      There is no way the Supreme Court will award this one to the plaintiff (Eldred). The Constitution implies a sort of limit on copyright, but unfortunately it is totally ambiguous.

      Did you read the article? That isn't the basis for this case.

      From the article:

      "But how would he frame it? The obvious way was to say that with its most recent extension, Congress had finally gone beyond any reasonable interpretation of what the framers could have meant by "limited." That approach hadn't worked in the past, so Lessig constructed a different argument. In Article 1, Section 8, the founding fathers not only instructed Congress what to do regarding copyright -- secure "for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries" -- but also stated why they should do it ("to promote the progress of science and useful arts"). Of course, Lessig's complaint includes the idea that Congress' continual extensions make a mockery of the word "limited" (one professor called it perpetual ownership "on the installment plan"). But the main thrust of Lessig's argument rests on the fact that, as with previous extensions, the Copyright Term Extension Act not only grants new copyright holders a longer term of exclusivity, it grandfathers in previous works. A retroactive extension of copyright clearly violates the Constitution."

      (Emphasis mine.)

      If the argument were as doomed as you say, then I think it's unlikely the Supremes would have even agreed to hear the case in the first place. I agree that it still doesn't seem too likely to win, but I think it's a tad more plausible than you suggest. As it says, your approach has failed in the past, but that's why they're not using your approach.

    4. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, what I have said is based on what I have read of the 2-1 appeals court decision. I don't know what arguments Lessig used then, but the article implies his strategy was similar to that implied now.

      You are right that Lessig is arguing based on the retroactive nature of the law. His idea is good, and I hope it works, but the court of appeals was not sufficiently sympathetic. IIRC in their opinion the only limit they found applicable in the copyright clause of the Constitution was the "limited time" business -- and that they interpreted to mean the time had to be finite, but could be of arbitrary length.

      In my opinion the problem is that the framers of the Constitution did not express themselves clearly enough, partly because of time+political constraints, and partly because the practice of law has changed. It is clear to me that the phrase "limited time" was supposed to have some meaning, but now it does not.

      I guess that if the Supreme Court agrees that the retroactive aspect is problematic, they may only invalidate the law as applied to works produced before 1998. Which would not be optimal, but I am glad that there is opposition to this law.

      The DMCA has at least raised some people's conciousness about copyright law. I remember that when this law was passed, it basically received no mention on Slashdot.

    5. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does copyright stomp on my freedom of speech?

    6. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that if the Supreme Court agrees that the retroactive aspect is problematic, they may only invalidate the law as applied to works produced before 1998. Which would not be optimal, but I am glad that there is opposition to this law.

      He's also arguing that congress only passed it because they thought it would help people with old content, so he's asking that the entire thing be struck down. I think that's called "inseverable" or something like that.

    7. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by dpilot · · Score: 2, Funny

      Eldred v. Ashcroft??

      Isn't Ashcroft against terrorists?

      If Eldred is against Ashcroft, then Eldred must be a terrorist. If Lessig is arguing on behalf of Eldred, then Lessig must be a terrorist, too.

      You know, the really annoying thing is that I'm SURE there are people who would seriously agree with this line of reasoning, if not come up with it, themselves.

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    8. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by wfrp01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Eldred v. Ashcroft is not predicated on the argument that copyright must be limited. ... The argument Lessig makes is not that the "limited term" clause is violated.

      In fact, if you read the brief, he does exactly that. The constitution makes provisions for both Free Speech and the types of protections that Patents and Copyright afford. This is not about Copyright being trumped by Free Speech. That would be like having two Popes trying to excommunicate each other. That could never happen... ;)

      This is how the brief petioning the Supreme Court to hear the case begins:

      This case is about the limits on Congress' Copyright Clause power.

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    9. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by wfrp01 · · Score: 2

      Did you read the article? That isn't the basis for this case.

      Read the Petition to the Supreme Court to hear the case. That there should be limits on Copyright Clause is, in fact, the basis of this case.

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      --Lawrence Lessig for Congress!
    10. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2

      I read the Wired article. IANAL, but at a high level, the idea might be phrased as "Like a patent, a copyright ought to have a half-life", so that once people have been "reasonably" rewarded for their creativity, the rest of us can be enriched thereby without fear of prosecution.
      Programmed my dad's cell phone so that, if mom calls, it rings Beethoven's 5th. Now, if we still had to pay a vig to Ludwig's descendents (or the current copyright holder), the phone would either a) cost more or b) not be marketed that way in the first place, and our world might be somehow diminished as a result.
      Is the answer simply: create your own stuff? If the Mickey Mouse law offends you, ought you simply to create your own two-dimensional, annoying rodent? How much is "enough" difference to avoid a copyright infringement suit?
      Truth is that lawyers are about money, not truth, and a ridiculous suit may ruin you despite best efforts.
      Back on topic, Lessig is totally the man. The article spoke of him coding elaborate Word Perfect macros while clerking for the Sumpremes. (Diana Ross must have been thrilled). :)
      At any rate, the possibility of a dude who GETS IT helping to shape public policy is welcome. He can run for President, and line his cabinet with the usual suspects. A personality for RMS! A shower and shave for ESR! A blue and green striped shirt for Linus! Go, Larry, Go!

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    11. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 4, Informative

      How does copyright stomp on my freedom of speech?

      It abridges your right to perform copyrighted material (songs and plays for instance), to reproduce a copyrighted work in another form (freedom of press and possibly speech), and so on. The article points out that Disney used a great deal of public domain literature as the basis for some of it's most profitable works (and let's not forget the music in Fantasia), yet none of Disney's work has gone to public domain despite the long timeframe since their original creator's death (never mind the time from creation). What someone might have done with that work we'll most likely never know, though returning the copyright terms to their previous state will at least allow people to utilize those works that were about to lose their copyright protection when the law was passed.

      They point out quite a few good examples, such as publishing public domain texts online, which if not a form of speech is most likely a form of press in which the retroactive nature of the law forced people to stop work that they had already begun in anticipation of those pieces going into the public domain.

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    12. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It abridges your right to perform copyrighted material

      So write your own damn material. This glomming on to the creative and hard work of others under the guide of "free speech" is disgusting.

      And seeing how many cover bands there are out there traveling the countryside, it can't be that hard to get permission to play all sorts of copyrighted material. Where's the damned problem?

    13. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by The_Rook · · Score: 2

      this comment brought to mind how the supreme court may rule on the case. that they will uphold the copyright term extension but strike down the retroactive portion of the staute.

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    14. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by neocon · · Score: 1

      You know, the really annoying thing is that I'm SURE there are people who would seriously agree with this line of reasoning, if not come up with it, themselves.

      Now you're just being silly. Can you provide me any example of this type of reasoning being used? At all? Anything even like this?

    15. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And seeing how many cover bands there are out there traveling the countryside, it can't be that hard to get permission to play all sorts of copyrighted material. Where's the damned problem?

      Actually, considering all of the RIAA's drivel about protecting the artists from copyright infringement by Napster users, they generally don't keep track of what songs bands play live (even huge multi-platinum bands) in the US. This means that even though artists are supposed to get royalties for performances of their songs, many times they never see them, or never even know their songs are being performed by other artists in the first place. As soon as someone releases a CD, though, I'm sure someone takes notice.

      So write your own damn material. This glomming on to the creative and hard work of others under the guide of "free speech" is disgusting.

      I tend to agree with you. However, there is some legitimacy to the argument when you consider the history of covers in music and transitioning pieces from one art form to another. While the vast majority of covers are just the same thing done by a different band, there are definite examples of people truly being creative with someone else's piece (though the original writer doesn't always like the results). Personally, if I had never heard Jimi Hendrix, I could absolutely say that I disliked everything Bob Dylan's ever done. Hendrix made it clear to me that Dylan was a good writer, though not a good performer (and, obviously, not everyone agrees with me).

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    16. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by dpilot · · Score: 1

      I've known some neo-conservatives at work who think that way. Maybe some of them aren't quite that silly, but they're darned close. At least some of them really believe in NaMBLA, or at least used to.

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    17. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by neocon · · Score: 1

      Put simply, I don't believe you.

      How 'bout you post a link to any example of anyone ever forwarding such a position, instead of asking us to take you at your word?

      But no, you won't. Random smears and implications are much more your style, aren't they?

    18. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2

      That would be like having two Popes trying to excommunicate each other. That could never happen... ;)

      I assume that the winky-face indicates "Yes, I know it has happened about 40 times in the history of the Catholic Church, as recently as the 15th century," but other /. readers might not be aware of that.

      And in each of those cases, the disputes were settled (sometimes with bloodshed) and the Church lived on. Which is exactly what will happen -- the Supreme Court will offer its interpretation of the balance to be struck between promoting expression and protecting copyright. And the Constitution will live on.

      This case is about the limits on Congress' Copyright Clause power.

      Limit on Congress' POWER is a different argument than limit on the lifespan of copyright itself.

    19. Re:Eldred v. Ashcroft is semi-doomed by dpilot · · Score: 1

      Lighten up.

      The whole thing goes back to, in your words, "being silly" because that's what I was doing. My second point, a minor one, was that as silly as my first point was, I'm sure that there are people who would take it.

      As for my co-worker who believes, or at least believed, in NaMBLA, he's not on the net, and as far as I know, has no web site. His mention was the first time I'd ever heard of it, and I've only ever heard one other reference. I still don't think I'm smearing, though perhaps I'm expressing a negative attitude towards neo-conservatives, but certainly more gently than much of what I've seen on /.

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  2. How many billions ARE we talking about ? by plierhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its surprising no-one has put any numbers on the discussion - the Act "extended the duration of all existing and future copyrights for 20 years - just like that".

    You'd have to imagine thats a gift of many many billions of dollars to the copyright holders. And while this is not a zero sum situation, someone has also suffered to some extent. That someone is the public domain, shich is us, the non-copyright holders.

    I hope they win and overturn this foul legislation.

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    1. Re:How many billions ARE we talking about ? by twalk · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see instead the government CHARGING for these extra years. This is exactly what is done for patents. If the public doesn't get the works, then at least the government gets a cut of the money.

      Let Disney extend their copyrights for another 20 years. Just charge them $1B/year to do it...

  3. Getting others to fight for their freedom by stendec · · Score: 5, Funny



    Lawrence Lessig: Don't stand there gawping like you've never seen the Constitution before! Now, today, we're going to be fighting for our free speech ! That is, unless any of you got anything better to do. Well?! Anyone got anything they'd rather be doing than fighting for our free speech ?! Yes?!

    Geek1: Well, to be quite honest, Mr. Lessig, I'd... rather be at home with the wife and kids.

    Lawrence Lessig: Would you, now?!

    Geek1: Yes, Mr. Lessig.

    Lawrence Lessig: Right! Off you go! Now, everyone else happy with my 'lil plan... of fighting for our free speech a bit?

    Geek2: Mr. Lessig!

    Lawrence Lessig: Yes?!

    Geek2: I've got a book I'd quite like to read.

    Lawrence Lessig: Right! You go read your book, then! Now! Everybody else... quite content to join in... with my little scheme of fighting for our free speech ?!

    Geek3: Mr. Lessig?

    Lawrence Lessig: Yes?! What is it?!

    Geek3: Well, I'm, uh, learning Perl.

    Lawrence Lessig: Learning Perl?!

    Geek3: Yes, Mr. Lessig.

    Lawrence Lessig: And I suppose you want to go and practice, eh? Fighting for our free speech not good enough for you, eh?!

    Geek3: Well...

    Lawrence Lessig: Right! Off you go! Bloody geeks! I don't know what it's coming to. Right! Lawrence Lessig, fighting for our free speech !

    1. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1
      "Geek1: Well, to be quite honest, Mr. Lessig, I'd... rather be at home with the wife and kids.

      Wife and kids?? geek?? oxymoron?? ;-)

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    2. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's one of the funniest slashdot posts I have ever seen. Please, PLEASE keep posting!!!!

    3. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. It was shite. :(

    4. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by marko123 · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of the South Park episode with Russell Crowe.

      Lawrence Lessig... FIGHTIN' ROUND THE WORLD!

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    5. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      Well, I don't think it was shite, but it was stolen from Monty Python...

    6. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      Nonononono. Not stolen... rather derived. Whether it constitutes Fair Use is a question for judge and jury, but my hunch is yes. So that's not "stolen" in any sense of the word... in fact it's just added to the amount of good comedy in the world. And that's part of the argument this case is making, that extending the copyright term indiscriminately and retroactively is robbing the public domain.

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    7. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, I don't think it was shite, but it was stolen from Monty Python...

      And on a geek site, that should not even have to be mentioned. Everyone else knew it was based on that MP sketch.

      You are hereby ordered to turn in your geek license and the nearest Homeland Security office.

    8. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by evilpenguin · · Score: 1

      I meant "stolen" in the "bad artists copy, good artists steal" sense. I was not suggesting that any crime was comitted. In this case, the poster was making a new satirical point using an existing form. IMHO, a new creative act and one that, as you say, illustrates the point.

    9. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by RealAlaskan · · Score: 1
      You are hereby ordered to turn in your geek license and the nearest Homeland Security office.

      To whom should we turn in our friendly neighborhood Homeland Obscurity orifice? Who in the world would want it?

    10. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by neocon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Intellectual Property, like flying pigs, cannot be found in nature.

      True. Neither can representative government, property rights, or any of a hundred other necessary ingredients of a free and open society. Your point?

    11. Re:Getting others to fight for their freedom by haizi_23 · · Score: 1

      I like the line in the article where it says, "some days he worked 11 hours".
      gosh. that sure is a lot.

  4. "Intent of the signers" by billbaggins · · Score: 2
    IANAL, nor an expert on Supreme Court matters.

    As I understand it, one of the more important pieces of information considered in constitutionality cases like this is the "intent of the signers"---why it is that those guys wrote what they wrote. In this case, copyright- & patent-granting powers were given to the Congress "to promote the progress of science and useful arts". Like the article says, retroactively extending old copyrights will do nothing toward this end. On the contrary, extending copyrights will just make life more difficult for everyone who actively uses public-domain stuff, from Project Gutenberg to Moby (I assume. IANA Moby expert).

    ...time passes...

    Damn. Just read the first few pages of the government's brief. I guess I should've realized that they've extended copyright terms before. All times but one, it seems, the extended term applied to all works currently under copyright. I guess that could count as precedent...

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    1. Re:"Intent of the signers" by Happy+go+Lucky · · Score: 2, Informative
      As I understand it, one of the more important pieces of information considered in constitutionality cases like this is the "intent of the signers"---why it is that those guys wrote what they wrote. In this case, copyright- & patent-granting powers were given to the Congress "to promote the progress of science and useful arts".

      To a greater or lesser degree. It's a concept called "original intent" and there's actually some controversy about how broadly it should be applied.

      The conventional wisdom is that conservatives (US definition) tend to favor a greater weight to original intent than do liberals. Personally, I think it's usually more likely to be advocates of judicial restraint who advocate the greater weight for original intent, while advocates of judicial activism (AKA "legislating from the bench") tend to not like anything that would constrain what they could do. But I digress...

      At any rate, that's why legislators often put in a section in new acts which goes "The legislature of the State of Colorado finds..." so that an OI-favoring court will have some guidance. The line in the Constitution about promoting useful arts and sciences is exactly that kind of statement. It helps to understand the original purpose of Congress' power to establish a system of copyrights.

      That being said, whether 17 years or 30 years or creator's-life-plus-seventy-years is the best length for promoting useful arts and sciences seems to me to be a question of fact, rather than a question of law. Traditionally, in systems derived from the English Common Law (UK, NZ, AU, and the entire US except for Louisiana state courts), juries decided questions of fact at the trial level and appellate courts were loath to touch questions of fact. If that's the operative question in Eldred v. Ashcroft, then the Supremes already threw me a curve ball by granting cert at all.

      It seems to me that Lessig may want to try the Kitchen Sink theory of litigating: Brief everything but the kitchen sink. Then brief the kitchen sink. Retroactive changes to copyright terms could be construed as being ex post facto legislation (strictly forbidden by the Constitution) but for all I know that point has already been litigated and lost. IANAL either.

  5. Holy shit by Raul654 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    In Eldred v. Ashcroft, his first argument before the Supreme Court -- and only his second appearance before any court, in any venue

    Quite frankly, that scares the bejesus out of me. He's been teaching law for years now, and is one of the most respected lawyers of his generation, but he's only been in court twice. Um, I find that a little frightening. Kinda like a computer scientist who doesn't know how to operate a keyboard.

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    1. Re:Holy shit by flonker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes.
      -- E. W. Dijkstra

    2. Re:Holy shit by chyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Would you select a computer scientist who doesn't know his shit to write mission critical applications?

      Arguing a case before the Supreme Court entails completely different requirements than arguing at a trial court. Of the thousands of cases which are appealed to the Supreme Court, only a tiny fraction of them are reviewed by the court. You can bet that if anyone is going up there to argue, he or she have to be exceptional. I don't think just anyone can go up there, present the case, and then be grilled by nine of the best legal minds in the country.

      Considering that Lessig clerked for Scalia, taught as a law professor, performed for years as a public speaker, and has command of the necessary background knowledge, I don't think he'll have issues.

    3. Re:Holy shit by manux · · Score: 1

      If the author of the story is at all accurate in his assessment of Mr. Lessig's public speaking abilities, I don't find myself concerned, rather the opposite: I don't know who would be better for the job.

    4. Re:Holy shit by Unanimous+Howard · · Score: 0

      Make that 8 of the best legal minds. You forgot about Clarence Thomas. ;-)

    5. Re:Holy shit by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 1

      haven't heard Lawrence speak live, but I have really enjoyed the "internet delayed" speeches that I have listened too after the fact. He is an excellent speaker, and while I don't fully agree with him, he has changed my point of view significantly on the issue. I would like to hear him give his song and dance routine to the Supreme court, it is simple, 3 points, and was very effective... I'd hate to be subjected to it live with the ability to question him in the process...

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    6. Re:Holy shit by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2
      nine of the best legal minds in the country

      Well, at least eight and one Rehnquist operated puppet...

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    7. Re:Holy shit by Catbeller · · Score: 2

      What frightens me about the remote-controlled puppet is that he (almost) never questions the lawyers.

      He listens, but doesn't participate. Is it because, as some suggest, he usually has his mind made up already, before the proceedings? Or does he lack the mental equipment to participate?

      Not idle questions. What is up with Thomas?

  6. precedent is against this argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here is a web page written by the remarkably unabashed copyright extenders. I agree with you that the retroactive extension does nothing to encourage the creation of new works. In fact, I strongly feel that it discourages new work, since new work often draws liberally on old works, often in ways that could be claimed to violate a copyright.

    But, unless the web page I have linked to grossly misrepresents past copyright laws (which I doubt), there is incredibly strong precedent for new copyright laws to apply to preexisting works -- in fact, sometimes even to works which were not eligible for any form of copyright at the time of their creation.

    For the Supreme Court to decide in favor of Eldred et al., it will have to invent a test which the Bono law violates, but which most previous laws do not. And the Constition provides little guidance for the specific parameters of this test.

    Some Supreme Courts have been willing to strike out new territory for the Constitution in this fashion. But this one is not. The conservative members are strongly against reading between the lines except when absolutely necessary. I am sympathetic to this view myself, but unfortunately this will work against us in this case.

    1. Re:precedent is against this argument by Klync · · Score: 1
      You said:
      "...there is incredibly strong precedent for new copyright laws to apply to preexisting works -- in fact, sometimes even to works which were not eligible for any form of copyright at the time of their creation."


      Which makes me wonder.... if the Supreme Court sided with the plaintiffs, wouldn't they be trying to abridge Congress' power in a way that is beyond their authority? Maybe, despite the reasons given for copyright in the constitution, the court sees Congress as having the prerogative to pass a law that affects the status of currently existing things that were produced in the past.



      Does the constitution's preamble about encouraging The Arts and Sciences abridge Congress' domain?

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  7. Just a tiny comment... by penginkun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If he were a democrat, would we have heard how he was a left-wing democrat? I'm just curious.

    1. Re:Just a tiny comment... by Flamerule · · Score: 3, Informative
      The family was churchgoing, law-abiding, and above all, faithful to the Grand Old Party. "I grew up a right-wing lunatic Republican," says Lessig.
      [emphasis added]
      Yes.
    2. Re:Just a tiny comment... by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      I'll fall for the troll. Show me where any of the people you mention advocate the abolition of private property.

    3. Re:Just a tiny comment... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Show me where any of the people you mention advocate the abolition of private property.

      Wow. You're really ignorant, aren't you? You have a web browser. Use it. Educate yourself. Both ideological extremes have idea on how they want to control your life and property. Wake up.

    4. Re:Just a tiny comment... by penginkun · · Score: 1

      Troll? Hardly. Just asking a question, which was answered.

    5. Re:Just a tiny comment... by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      Wow! No, I'm just a Democrat, active in my local party, going to precinct caucases, voting, and in general being a citizen of these here United States. What are you doing? A web broswer is hardly a good tool for learning about democracy and politics. Libraries are still better places for learning economics and political science.

      Have you read your:
      o Adam Smith
      o John Locke
      o Jean-Jaques Rousseau
      o Thomas Jefferson
      o Thomas Paine
      o Marx and Engels (don't grind your axe, you should know what they said)
      o Abraham Lincoln
      o William Graham Sumner
      o Ayn Rand
      o John Keynes
      o Thorston Veblen
      o Alexis De Tocqueville

      And on more recent issues:
      o David Stockman
      o Robert Reich

      There are countless others, but if you have read up on these folks and cen tell me what they have to say about wealth and power, then we can assume you are prepared to judge my education or lack thereof.

      If you cannot, then I don't think a discussion between us would be particularly constructive or instructive. Try not to assume (note that I'm not assuming what you have read either way) what one knows from a two-sentence slashdot posting. Also it is best to avoid categorizing people based on their proximity to your own beliefs.

      You will note some arch conservative thinkers on my list (along with some damned liberal ones). I haven't found a political philosophy that claims as its adherents all persons of intelligence and wisdom.

      Again, I ask, where have any of the people mentioned in original post advocated the abolition of private property? And I am still waiting for an answer.

    6. Re:Just a tiny comment... by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      And of course it is "Jean-Jacques Rousseau." Sorry about the typo...

  8. Read the Brief by unsinged+int · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you thought the profile of Larry was interesting, I'd encourage you to read the brief (PDF) he filed for the Eldred case. IANAL so I at first thought I wouldn't understand it and almost didn't read it, but eventually I did about a month ago. It is very clear. Extraordinarily clear.

    It's also interesting to read the opposing brief (PDF).

    Good luck Larry.

  9. Lessig's story sounds like a good candidate... by guttentag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...for Robert De Niro's screenwriting contest. He may not be a scientist or an engineer by title, but his work/quest/crusade marks him as someone who will have more influence on the Internet and the computer industry than the vast majority of engineers.

    1. Re:Lessig's story sounds like a good candidate... by Storm+Damage · · Score: 2

      And of course, every movie studio is going to be clamoring for the rights to produce a film romanticizing the fight *against* strong copyright laws...

  10. Only one question, HOW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As he neared the end of his tour, Lessig
    was frustrated. They stand and applaud, he told himself, but why don't they fight?
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    How? Only thing I can think of doing is to donate to the EFF.

    In the mean time, I just hope that he wins. He didn't get that far with any of the lower courts :(

  11. My prediction by Celandro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Decision 6-3 for Eldrich

    Majority decision(4 justices signing): Court of Appeals errored in deciding that the copyright law is immune from First Ammendment attack. Sent back to Court of Appeals for an actual trial

    Minority supporting majority (2 justices signing): In addition to the majority statement, congress was incorrect in not considering the quid pro quo implied in the copyright section of the consitution. Giving to copyright holders, and not returning the favor to the public is inequitable and against the original intent of the signers.

    Dissent (3 justices signing): What a bunch of quacks.. Congress can decide what limited means, what constitutes quid pro quo... Justices are writing the law... we love mickey mouse blah blah blah.

    This is by far the most likely scenario. The copyright clause was written before the 1st ammendment, therefore ruling that it is immune from 1st ammendment analysis is quite wrong and getting 6 justices to agree on that should not be a problem. On the more general question of wether the law is invalid or not, the supreme court will not rule in general (although they will send very strong hints to lower courts), but sending it back to the lower court to reanalyze for first ammendment reasons is quite a good solution to the problem. In addition I suspect they will tell congress that they are being stupid and patents and copyrights were created under the same law, and giving 14 years to one, and 70 years + life of author to the other is rediculous.

    If the Supreme court does say that the copyright laws are immune from first ammendment analysis it would contradict most of their previous rulings on the first ammendment. I feel this decision is basically open and shut on the 1st ammendment issue and a very long shot on the other 2 arguements.

    1. Re:My prediction by DeathTongue · · Score: 0
      The copyright clause was written before the 1st ammendment, therefore ruling that it is immune from 1st ammendment analysis is quite wrong...


      But I thought the whole point of an amendment to the constitution was to change the constitution. Thus the constitution forbids income tax (Article I, section 8), but the 16th Amendment allows income taxes. This seems to indicate that the amendments take precedence, so the 1st amendment takes precedence over the copyright clause.

    2. Re:My prediction by DeathTongue · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I should read a little more carefully. Just restating what you said, I guess :)

    3. Re:My prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to believe that you're right, though I have to worry a bit, considering the past setbacks this case has undergone (e.g. they haven't won it in any venue...)

      In the mean time, would you care to tell us which judges you expect to be in each of those three categories?

  12. Screw trademarks... by Wee · · Score: 2
    ..let's do something about the USPTO. It's way out of hand...

    -B

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    1. Re:Screw trademarks... by Flamerule · · Score: 2
      LOL... Copyrights... Eldred v. Ashcroft deals with copyrights. Copyrights, patents and trademarks.

      Not to mention, it's the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

      Now, after the useless corrections: it's hard to decide what's more fucked up in the US, copyrights or patents. Retarded patents offend the intellect and hinder tech innovation, but century-long copyrights help enforce the MPAA and RIAA's stranglehold on media in their respective industries. My solution: immediately change all copyright terms back to 14 years, as the Constitution specifies, and add a "Is this patent retarded?" test for patent examiners to focus on.

    2. Re:Screw trademarks... by ProfBooty · · Score: 1

      Is this patent retarded?" test for patent examiners to focus on.

      examiners decide wether or not something is patentable, not wether or not it is a good idea or marketable. that is for the public to decide.

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    3. Re:Screw trademarks... by Wee · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I had read the dead tree article a couple days ago. A friend and I were talking about trademark laws recently. Hilarity ensues.

      I know what USPTO stands for.

      The solution is to charge for patents what they cost to grant, and then hire competent examiners. Less patent applications equals fewer bogus/frivolous patents. Maybe. Perhaps there might be some technical solution to finding prior art, I don't know.

      FWIW, I could care less about the RIAA/MPAA. Consumers will pay for whatever they shovel regardless of how long they can exclusively shovel it. Abusive patents, which are sometimes enforced "retroactively", hurt industry and consumers at a deeper level. Absurd patents in a rabidly litigious society are much worse than some sweat shop making bootleg Mickey Mouse ears, IMO.

      -B

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  13. Rocky by offpath3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does anyone else get this strange picture of Professor Lessig jogging up the steps in front of the Stanford Quad and Mem Chu (Memorial Church... in the middle of the quad) in sweats with Eye of the Tiger playing in the background?

  14. I'm guessing... by marko123 · · Score: 1, Troll

    This is the paid targeted advertisement for the day. Thanks, Wired :)

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  15. Excellent article? Hah. by clion999 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    The article was not excellent. It was designed to marginalize him and turn him into a crazy guy tilting at government windmills. The headline in the print edition said Lessig wants to "smash" the copyright system. That's just plain false. He's a big believer in copyright-- he just doesn't want it to last forever. He wants there to be some balance between the public's rights and the copyright holder's rights. He's got a good compromise system that would force people to renew their copyrights if they were still valid. If people renewed, they would still get all of the protections today, but if they didn't the work would fall into the public domain. This is a great help for researchers, librarians and everyone else who needs to find a copy of something that's out of print. Did you realize that it's illegal to make a copy of something that's out of print? Yup. You could stilll get sued for $150,000 per copy! This proposals is just another dose of sanity for the system.

    Wired didn't care about any of this. They didn't even mention it. They just painted him as a bit of a nutcase. Remember this is the same author (Steven Levy) who wrote a glowing review of the M$ Paladium system. Beware!

    1. Re:Excellent article? Hah. by unsinged+int · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks for the flamebait. What did you do? Read the first part about him wanting to smash the system and conclude the article sucks?

      The article did not talk about him wanting to totally eliminate copyright. It mainly discussed his background, motivations, and the first couple rounds of the Eldred case. And I would hardly consider a bunch of quotes from people saying he is a law genius as "marginalizing him" into a "crazy guy."

      Sensationalistic use of the word "smash" to get people to read it, yes. Incorrect content or an inaccurate portrayel, no. I have read Larry's books and the article is totally consistent with his views in the books. I thought it was a great supplement to the books since he doesn't really talk about his life in the books.

    2. Re:Excellent article? Hah. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2

      Be fair. Levy isn't evil, he's just naive. He wrote that fluff peice about Palladium, but he's also written articles with some good cypherpunk content that's been published in Newsweek. Sometimes he gets it, and often he doesn't. In order to make a story more interesting or readable for a lay-person, he'll often emphasize the wrong thing. I don't mind, because otherwise there's no way that lay-person was ever going to know about the subject in the first place. I don't think he's trying to undermine Lessig at all.

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  16. Not peripheral--rule against perpetuities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The limited term argument is not as peripheral as you might suspect reading the above. There is a common law rule against perpetuities that says (harking back to law school) "no interest is good unless it must vest (if at all) within 21 years of some life in being at the time of creation of the intetest''. In effect, 21 years equals forever at common law, and forever is not a limited time such as the constitution mandates if Congress grants intellectual property rights at all, according to the grant of power to Congress by the constitution.

    Before you ever get to look at the 1st amendment issues and balancing, you have to look at the limited grant of power to Congress in the case of IP, period. I would have to comment that I am not even vaguely familiar with the history of decisions in this area, but I suspect at lot of effort has been made to engage in the "balancing" types of consideration that has preoccupied the courts for the last century. Lawyers tend to cover all bases in a brief, and the longest and most convoluted arguments, making up most of the page count of the brief may be just make-weight, in the sense you are trying to argue there is no great harm (balancing act) if you rule as I suggest in my first paragraph. Arguing both law and fact, if you will.

    The first copyright monopoly was for 4 years, if I remember correctly. There are fundamental limits on Congress' powers in this area in the explicit wording of the constitution, and the evidence is that the first congress understood what was meant by those limits. There seem to be good arguments that Congress does not even have the power to give an artist copyright on the artist's own works for the period of the artist's own life!!! In any event, there is a profound legal principle that nothing may last forever, and to say that the Gershwin heirs or Disney Inc. (or the heirs of Elvis or John Lenin) have any residual rights to their work more than 21 years beyond their death (or after the creation of Mickey Mouse, in the case of the inanimate Disney) violates the common law rule against perpetuities, and thereby certainly violates the limited power of Congress to grant monopoly rights for limited terms.

    Sorry about the AC.

  17. Incomplete Picture by Artagel · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article is at best an incomplete picture of Professor Lessig. While it is framed to show the roots of where he ended up, it could have been different.

    Professor Lessig's primary interest, at least initially, was constitutional law. Actually, that makes the Eldred case a good case for him. If you read the briefs you will see that the parties are not especially approaching the case as a "cyberlaw" case.

    I don't think the scope of his interest has been limited to being a great niche legal thinker. He wants to be broad, but is going to ride this particular wave for what it is worth. The article does do a good job of explaining why Lessig is important to a particular non-legal community now, and taken for that, it is nice.

  18. ...only if he wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's how it works in the movies.

  19. Branches of government by TFloore · · Score: 3
    Blockquoteth the poster:
    "I am a great admirer of Larry Lessig," says Jack Valenti, Hollywood's master lobbyist. "But Congress has the power to say what 'limited' is. It's there, it's unambiguous. Fifty-five men in Philadelphia decided it, and there's no way a court can overrule that."

    Sorry, he's confused on the purpose of the 3 branches of US government.

    The Legislative Branch makes the law.

    The Executive Branch enforces the law.

    The Judicial Branch interprets the law.

    The Supreme Court specifically interprets the US Constitution. They have the last word on that.

    Otherwise, there would be no "unConstitutional" laws... after all, Congress decided, so it must be right, right?
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    1. Re:Branches of government by Artagel · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is another view. It goes like this:

      The Congress is supposed to interpret the Constitution before it passes a law, and adhere to the Constitution as Congress views it. Many senators and representatives ignore this role, and abdicate in favor of the Supreme Court. Perhaps because it is politically inconvenience (e.g. campaign finance reform).

      The President is supposed to interpret the Constitution when he decides to sign a bill or enforce a law. Therefore, he can even stop unconstitional laws that have been passed before from working, and stop new ones from happening. No president (more accurately, Attorney General) attempted to enforce the law that attempted to overthrow the Miranda decision. That was an executive decision.

      The Supreme Court (and other courts) interprets the Constitution in the cases before it. The fact that the other branches can be brought before the Supreme Court by others does not take away the Supreme Court's oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America.

      And the Supreme Court is right because they are last, not last because they are right. Lincoln wanted to keep the issues raised in the Dred Scott case alive, and keep presenting them to the Supreme Court to attempt to force a reversal. Supreme Court reversals of position are not common, but they do happen. Nobody should consider issues "over" because of one decision.

    2. Re:Branches of government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, that's because you can buy out congressmen and not Supreme Court judges.

    3. Re:Branches of government by hubie · · Score: 3, Informative
      As another example that the Supreme Court doesn't necessarily have the last word: in the 1830's the Cherokees successfully challenged the State of Georgia in the Supreme Court regarding the Indian Removal Act. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Cherokees, but President Jackson moved them out anyway.

      The fameous Jackson quote went something like: "John Marshall [the Chief Justice] has made his decision; let him enforce it now if he can."

    4. Re:Branches of government by Catbeller · · Score: 2

      Those who favorably compare Bush II to Jackson should take a bit of time to ponder what a genocidal jackass Jackson was.

      Strong, yep. Opinionated, with the will to defy other branches of the government, yep.

      But a genocidal racist who flouted the Constitution and the Supreme Court (let them come and enforce their decision!) he was as well.

      Comparing the current admin's intransigence to Jackson's is damning with faint praise.

  20. Show me the money by gesualdo · · Score: 2

    As long as the publishing industry has the deep pockets to pay well, many of those lawyers who are rooting for Lessig will loose some of their youthful enthusiasm and they'll end up fighting on behalf of the industry.

    If we really believe that Lessig's arguement is just, we need to support him (and the EFF) financially.

    What percentage of /.ers have given money to the EFF? I'd be interested to see some numbers; I'd certainly hope they are high.

    Considering the bredth of slashdot's userbase, we should be able to come up with a ton of cash to compliment the posts, ideas, thoughts, humor, and time we spend here.

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  21. you call that "work"? by the+gnat · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article: Some days he clocked 11 hours.

    11 hours? Pussy.

    1. Re:you call that "work"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's billed. Not worked. Unless he was billing his time during lunch and on the pot, not unlike some other lawyers, days were probably longer than 11 hours.

  22. Where Disney's Material Came From by duck_prime · · Score: 1
    The article points out that Disney used a great deal of public domain literature as the basis for some of it's most profitable works (and let's not forget the music in Fantasia), yet none of Disney's work has gone to public domain
    How desperate are you to start making your own Mickey Mouse videos? That's what you're really talking about here. A lot of people want to make a quick buck selling merchandise based on characters they didn't have the creativity to invent themselves.

    Please remember that the folklore Disney built on was hundreds of years old, if not thousands. I don't think they or anyone was really put out much by Homer or the Beowulf poet grasping his copyright a few years longer.

    It gets a little trickier when we consider "Hunchback" ... V. Hugo wasn't that long ago, but it is pretty clear that that stuff belongs in the public domain. I'm just not sure yet about Mickey & Donald.

    Certainly copyrights can't be *forever*. But I do suggest people are making too much of this Disney business.
    1. Re:Where Disney's Material Came From by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 2, Informative

      It gets a little trickier when we consider "Hunchback" ... V. Hugo wasn't that long ago, but it is pretty clear that that stuff belongs in the public domain. I'm just not sure yet about Mickey & Donald.

      Certainly copyrights can't be *forever*. But I do suggest people are making too much of this Disney business.


      The vast majority of Disney's movies are on controlled release schedules, often not available for up to 20 years at a time. Some people consider this a good thing, but ultimately it's just a company milking old material for all it's worth (or more than it's worth if you really think about it). In fact, much of what Disney's done in my lifetime has simply been rehashing old characters for new series/movies. Is it really any different because Disney's doing it than if someone else was doing it? It's not like the original creators of most of these characters are still there.

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    2. Re:Where Disney's Material Came From by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Folklore is a living thing. If you can't tell your own version of a story it is not folklore, but more akin to propaganda, dogma and edict--i.e. the language of social dominance.

      In the case of Disney, the point is they borrowed from the Grimm brothers' collection. The collection included works that were folkloric, but the Grimm's tellings of the stories were protected by copyright. Had the Bono Act been in effect, Disney could not have made such films Snow White or Cinderella without paying the publishers of the Grimm tales. Copyright law allows Disney to freely appropriate works from the public and gives the public nothing in return.

      Congress has allowed Disney to craft legislation that protects the interests of Disney to the detriment of the public. Perhaps because there is no effective way to lobby for something as basic as Language or Storytelling or Discourse. The public is simply not being heard in Congress. The courts are needed to restore balance and defend the public interest, including the basic rights of free expression.

    3. Re:Where Disney's Material Came From by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Please remember that the folklore Disney built on was hundreds of years old, if not thousands


      You mean like Winnie the Pooh, Wind in the Willows, or Alice in Wonderland?

    4. Re:Where Disney's Material Came From by rollingcalf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Please remember that the folklore Disney built on was hundreds of years old, if not thousands.

      Wrong. Some of it like the classical music in Fantasia was hundreds of years old, but many others were much more recent. The last of the Grimm brothers died in 1863, not hundreds of years before Disney. Disney even released some works such as a short Cinderella film in 1922, which would not have been allowed if the Grimm brothers were granted "life plus 70 years" on their copyright. And Disney's "Steamboat Willie" film was based on Buster Keaton's "Steamboat Bill".

      A lot of people want to make a quick buck selling merchandise based on characters they didn't have the creativity to invent themselves.

      So, Walt Disney didn't have any creativity because he made works based on characters he didn't create himself? Like Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, and the rest? You seem to forget that artistic creativity can exist on top of previous creativity, just as scientific accomplishments are almost always based on someone else's prior accomplishments. Once material enters the public domain, people won't be able to make "a quick buck" very easily because anybody else in the world has the same material from which to do the same thing. The ones who will make any significant money are those who can use their own creativity to add value to the original creation, not the ones who merely disseminate what is already infinitely available elsewhere.

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    5. Re:Where Disney's Material Came From by duck_prime · · Score: 1
      Please remember that the folklore Disney built on was hundreds of years old, if not thousands.

      Wrong. Some of it like the classical music in Fantasia was hundreds of years old, but many others were much more recent. The last of the Grimm brothers [...]
      Um, guys. The bros. Grimm didn't invent Cinderella, Snow White, et. al. They drew on the centuries-old folklore I'm talking about. If not for them, Disney could've gotten the story from other sources. And don't even get me started about who invented Hercules or Moses. *Anybody* was, and is free to make their own Cinderalla movie today, or the day after Disney released theirs. Why is it so critical that you be able to sell Disney's? Can't other artists draw their own Snow White?

      A lot of people want to make a quick buck selling merchandise based on characters they didn't have the creativity to invent themselves. So, Walt Disney didn't have any creativity because he made works based on characters he didn't create himself? Like Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, and the rest?
      Please, I think you are deliberately misunderstanding me. Here I'm talking about Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, et al., which were created by Disney. These (plus some others) are the characters protected by copyright, as Aladdin et al. are already in the public domain.

      If I understand you, you are arguing that other people should have the right to build off of Mickey today. As I argued originally -- and seems to have been forgotten -- I do agree with copyright time limits. The real disagreement here is how long they should be.

      Life + 70 seems fair to me. I don't believe that copyright time limits are there so people can sell knock-off Bart Simpson T-shirts without paying licence fees; they are there so that eventually the arts that stand the test of time are in the public domain.

      (gasp)

      Apologies for long-windedness.
  23. hope he looses (not flame) by argoff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For someone like me who hates copyrights, that's a hard thing to say - but the simple fact is this. The problem isn't the term of copyrights, but our very belief that it's allright gain benefit by restricting the copying practices of others to begin with. Copyright monopolies are like a vine that will never stop growing to choke off our freedoms until they are cut off at the root. The DMCA, infinite extensions, sentences worse than murders get, are only a symptom - not the cause.

    The cause of all these problems is our own moral failure to see copyrights not as some type of incentive or property rights, but as the evil form of controll that they are. It reminds me of indentured servitude - it started out as short term, un-inheritable, for all races, and usually offered land at the end of the term. But unfortunately it set the seeds for a system of slavery that became unbearable and ripped the USA apart, now I see the same with "intellectual properties" - if we don't cut it off at the root, it will just come back to destroy us in another form.

  24. CITA IS something for something by satch89450 · · Score: 3, Informative

    In reading the opposing (government) brief, I found this interesting point: the CITA was designed to harmonize US Copyright with international copyright. Going back to the original establishment of Federal copyright, the original intent was to unify copyright among the States and common law. The CITA could be argued to continue the tradition by having the United States participate in a world-wide unification of copyright. This means that a content creator would not have to worry as much about the differences between US and European copyright.

    Not exactly "something for nothing."

    Also, these thoughts are a little late for the government to include in its argument to the court, so I don't feel as though I'm hurting that anti-CITA efforts by discussing them here.

  25. s/CTIA/CTEA/g by satch89450 · · Score: 2

    I previewed, I submitted, I goofed.

  26. article here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lawrence Lessig's Supreme Showdown

    The Great Liberator Lawrence Lessig helped mount the case against Microsoft. He wrote the book on creative rights in the digital age. Now the cyberlaw star is about to tell the Supreme Court to smash apart the copyright machine.

    By Steven Levy

    What's left of a dream is stored at the Stanford Law School library in 12 fat green loose-leaf binders and several legal boxes of supporting documents and briefs. They chronicle the 54 days that Lawrence Lessig, the Elvis of cyberlaw, helped Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson with the mother of all tech litigation: Department of Justice v. Microsoft. It was to be Lessig's greatest moment.

    Once a "right-wing lunatic," he's become a fire-breathing defender of Net values.

    In late 1997, after reading a profile of the super-brainy professor in the Harvard Law Bulletin, Judge Jackson had tapped Lessig to sort out the technical aspects of the case. "He was as knowledgeable as they come," says Jackson, who sits on the US District Court in DC. For the next two months, Lessig and his overqualified clerk, fellow Harvard Law professor Jonathan Zittrain, worked almost nonstop to produce a report. Lessig's time logs, which document the 278 hours he spent on the case (billed at $250 per hour, a bargain rate for someone with his credentials), reveal only one day off: Christmas.

    Some days he clocked 11 hours.

    What the logs don't show is the quiet transformation Lessig had been undergoing, from a respected constitutional theorist into a fire-breathing defender of Net values. With the Microsoft case, he would be able to make his mark.

    On February 3, 1998, Lessig called Microsoft and the government to a public hearing that was to be held in Boston in a few weeks, and flagged the courthouse administrator to prepare for what undoubtedly would be a huge media event. Lessig would use the forum to cut through the self-interested portrayals of the facts on both sides and draw a road map for resolving the thorny questions in cyberspace's grand shootout.

    All the while, though, Microsoft had been maneuvering to get Lessig off the case. And that same day, the Federal Court of Appeals had the last word: Lessig was out.

    His friends and admirers now view the episode as one that accelerated, by dint of publicity, the most brilliant career in Internet law. Lessig has since published two successful and influential books: The first, Code, is a groundbreaking deconstruction of the digital age. The second, The Future of Ideas, is quickly becoming the bible of intellectual property monkey-wrenchers. Lessig also founded a clinical law center at Stanford Law School, where he now teaches, and has launched Creative Commons, an ambitious project through which he hopes to establish a giant repository of works unfettered by restrictive copyright laws. In the realm of Internet politics and law, no one even approaches Lessig's stature. He is the chief theorist, the most respected mind, the most passionate speechifier. He is cyberlaw.

    More than four years after his removal from the Microsoft case, the defeat, if you can call it that, still nags at Lessig. It is the opportunity missed. "Getting the appointment was a charmed thing," he says. "But I missed the chance to write the report. What I really wanted to do was get the right answer."

    He had professorship, tenure, prestige. Then he discovered cyberspace.

    On October 9, Larry Lessig will again claim a national spotlight.

    In Eldred v. Ashcroft, his first argument before the Supreme Court -- and only his second appearance before any court, in any venue -- Lessig will attempt to convince the justices to overturn the 1998 Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act. To Lessig it is both an opportunity to make up for losing the prize that was snatched from him some four years ago, and a giant step in his crusade to stop a trend he fears may be inevitable: big-media dinosaurs controlling the Internet.

    That's why the law professor has declared war on Mickey Mouse.

    It is the third of July in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and in a few minutes Larry Lessig is going to tell us how bad things are. Outside it is sweltering, but in Langdell Hall, where the Berkman Center of the Harvard Law School is holding a weeklong seminar, it is comfortably air-conditioned. Sitting in the corner of the lecture amphitheater -- each seat wired with power plugs and Ethernet ports -- he feverishly pecks on his iBook. He's wearing a checked Gap shirt and his trademark black jeans. Lessig looks like an intellectual. At 41, his face has the soft pallor of a life spent out of the sun. His features gather toward the center of his face, a configuration accentuated by tiny, Rumpole of the Bailey wire-rim glasses that barely cover his eye sockets. But Lessig's most distinctive feature is a startlingly high forehead; it's almost as if, in an attempt to accommodate his brain, the top of his head was pulled up a couple of inches, like an image stretched by Kai's Power Tools.

    Normally, Lessig is a private, even shy, person. His students once asked him to tell them something about himself. He responded with one word: No. Before an audience, however, Lessig becomes electric.

    "I was blown away," says Harvard Law's Charlie Nesson of the first time he saw Lessig teach. "He had the ethos, the spirit, the logic, and a Zen quality that goes right to the button." At times, Lessig seems more poet than lawyer. He isolates key phrases, repeating them, stretching them out, and luxuriating in their sound. Punctuating his themes are his distinctively styled PowerPoint slides that he creates using an obscure typewriter font downloaded free from a company called P22.

    Today, Lessig is talking about the regulation of speech. He considers naive those who believe that the very existence of the Internet ensures free speech. That may have been part of the original Net code, he argues, but regulation may well disable that code. The freedom of the Internet didn't do much for Napster, did it? We may snicker that Congress is clueless, and chortle over the follies of record labels trying to catch up to the digital world. However, their laws and lawsuits have the potential to ruin the most idealistic aspects of the Net. Lessig believes it's already happening.

    He is famously pessimistic about this trend. He has even referred to such pessimism as "my brand," joking that his agent has congratulated him for enhancing his brand identity with a perpetually bleak outlook. He calls it as he sees it, and when it comes to the Internet, his vision has proved sharper than anyone's.

    It's not just a vision he's promoting -- it's a cause. His speech and his slides tell his Harvard audience the story of a valued commons of ideas threatened by big powers. The vast majority of intellectual property used to be in the public domain; now most is available only by permission. He takes particular delight in singling out the Walt Disney Company as the symbol of how the past is using its power to kill the future. The company was a major lobbying force behind the Sonny Bono Act, the law that Lessig is urging the Supreme Court to overturn. The measure was only the latest extension of copyright -- which the Constitution explicitly dictates should be "limited" -- from an original 14 years to an automatic 70 past the death of the creator. Most notably, the law protects Steamboat Willie, the first Mickey Mouse cartoon, from slipping into the public domain. (Lessig shows a clip of it in his PowerPoint presentation -- fair use, one assumes.) The big problem, as Lessig sees it, is that continual extensions of copyright prevent anything new from entering the public domain. This is most ironic, notes Lessig, since Disney dredged the public domain for its most lucrative properties. A PowerPoint slide lists the examples, from Snow White to The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Because of the Bono Act, Lessig asserts, "no one can do to Disney as Disney did to the Brothers Grimm."

    The Berkman crowd is predictably appreciative, but being lawyers, they don't get as rowdy as, say, the Usenet conference Lessig spoke to a couple of weeks before. "That was the first standing ovation I ever had," marvels the professor. And it wouldn't be the last. As the Eldred case approaches, Lessig has embarked on a sort of barnstorming tour of conferences and seminars around the world, inveighing about Hollywood's "insane rules," upbraiding like-minded geeks for not taking action, and advocating a "million-bit march" on Washington to urge politicians to understand and embrace intellectual property rights. As he neared the end of his tour, Lessig was frustrated. They stand and applaud, he told himself, but why don't they fight?

    A couple of weeks earlier, I'd asked Lessig a slightly different question: Why do you fight? The very question propelled Lessig -- who seems to casual observers so able and confident that he can resolve even the knottiest dilemma with a built-in Occam's razor -- into a surprising bout of self-examination. But for a chronically straight arrow, Larry Lessig has always had a flair for surprise.

    Lessig was born in 1961 in South Dakota. His father, Jack, was an engineer, and helped build silos for Minuteman missiles. Within a few years, the family moved to Williamsport, Pennsylvania, where Jack bought a steel-fabricating company. Larry remembers Williamsport as "a tiny town -- not tiny in population, but in its understanding of the world." Jack Lessig was doggedly traditional, and moral in a way that would have won Ayn Rand's approval: Once, when he underbid a job, he refused to change the assessment and performed the work at a loss. The family was churchgoing, law-abiding, and above all, faithful to the Grand Old Party. "I grew up a right-wing lunatic Republican," says Lessig.

    As early as anyone can remember, Larry Lessig astonished people with his intellect. His sister Leslie (he also has two half-siblings from his mother's first marriage) recalls him as a second grader, running through the list of American presidents backward and forward. Though he engaged in the usual smart-kid stuff -- stamp collecting, chemistry sets, a thing for Thomas Edison -- his passion was politics. Specifically, the right-wing lunatic brand of his father. In high school, Lessig was an avid member of the National Teen Age Republicans, and he served as the governor of Pennsylvania in the mock government formed by this cadre of future country clubbers. Everybody around him thought young Larry would one day be president. (That was when a correlation existed between the White House and intelligence.) After high school, he planted his foot in the political ring by running the campaign of a would-be state senator. It was the summer of 1980, and Lessig was the youngest member of Pennsylvania's delegation at the Republican Convention that nominated Ronald Reagan. His state senate candidate got creamed. "It was lucky," says Lessig. "If he'd won, I would now be a political hack."

    Disillusioned, Lessig entered the University of Pennsylvania, where his father and grandfather had graduated. Thinking he would follow his father into business, he studied economics and management, earning degrees in both. Once he graduated from Penn, his intellectual path was forever altered. He went to Trinity College in Cambridge, England, for what he thought would be an extra year of coursework. He wound up spending three years there studying philosophy. "I just fell in love with the place," he says. "For the first time, I really felt like I was ... serious."

    He also latched onto a different sort of politics. It was the height of the Thatcher Revolution, and Lessig found himself siding with the workers. "I remember going to Cambridge as a very strong libertarian theist," he says. "By the time I left I was not a libertarian in that sense, and no longer much of a theist." He was, however, passionate about freedom, and in particular excited about the prospect of liberty emerging in the former Soviet sphere. "I was obsessed with Eastern Europe and Russia," says Lessig, who hitchhiked through the area (and eventually became involved in its intrigues). Certainly, the Larry Lessig who returned from Cambridge was a shock to his family. "He came back a different person," says his sister Leslie. "His views of politics, religion, and his career had totally flipped."

    After earning his master's in philosophy, Lessig decided to shift to something more, well, real. Years earlier, another relative of Lessig's, an uncle named Richard Cates, had given him a lecture on the law. Cates had worked as counsel for the House Impeachment Committee, and in the midst of the Watergate furor visited the Lessig household. "Of course, in our house you couldn't talk about impeachment," says Lessig. "But I remember he and I went for a walk and wound up sitting on this cliff, and he told me about what the law was." This is the only place where reason controls power, Cates instructed his nephew. The moment stayed with Lessig, and in 1986 he entered the University of Chicago Law School.

    Lessig spent only one year in Chicago, though. His girlfriend at the time got a fellowship at Yale, and so he transferred there, something that was possible only because he'd wowed his profs in first-year law. The shift wasn't just geographical: Chicago is known as a school where lawyers learn law; Yale's rep is more ephemeral, a place where theories are valued more than the dirty work of contracts and litigation. No problem for Lessig. "He stood out as a brilliant, broad-ranging intellect," says Yale's constitutional law guru Bruce Ackerman. "The kind of depth Larry has isn't so common." Lessig particularly fell in love with constitutional law. He decided he wanted to write about it and teach it himself. At Lessig's graduation, Ackerman told a startled Jack Lessig that Larry was going to be a great professor. The father looked like he'd been struck with a two-by-four. ("He doesn't have a lot of respect for academic types," says Lessig. Now, of course, Jack couldn't be prouder of his celebrated son.)

    In the postgrad pecking order, Ivy League law school superstars compete for clerkships with federal judges. Then the cream of the cream rises to the elite fraternity of Supreme Court clerks. After Yale, Lessig served Judge Richard Posner, the sharpest legal mind in the country. Says Posner, "He was terrific, a tremendous worker who had a ferocious intensity." The judge now considers Lessig "the most distinguished law professor of his generation." Lessig completed the legal-giant quiniela by clerking for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. "His clerks hated me because I was a liberal," says Lessig.

    Bound by the Supreme Court's ironclad omertà against divulging in-chambers skinny, Lessig can't discuss his work on decisions rendered during the 1990 to 1991 term. But he can talk about his participation in one revolution at the high court. For years, he had been a computer nut -- after college he actually did some programming for a financial forecasting firm -- and, as an aficionado of good computer design, he despised the clunky Atex system then used by the Supreme Court Printing Office. So Lessig joined with a few other clerks to convince the Supremes to stop, in the name of user-friendliness. The high point of this effort was a demonstration for justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Scalia, and David Souter. Using Lessig's own Dell machine, the clerks staged a software shoot-out between Atex terminals and PCs running desktop-publishing software. Lessig and his colleagues won the day. But to implement a new system, complicated adjustments to some of the PC applications were required. Lessig wound up doing the job himself, hacking "extraordinarily complicated macros inside of WordPerfect." (Talk about code being law.)

    After his clerkship, Lessig took the bar exam, then decamped to Costa Rica, where he spent a month reading 35 old novels on a beach blanket. He'd already been hired to teach in Chicago. As Ackerman had predicted, Lessig was on track for an incandescent career as a professor. He passed the next few years teaching constitutional law at Chicago and studying the political transitions in Eastern Europe, even helping the Republic of Georgia write its own constitution.

    He had his professorship, tenure, and prestige. He was set for life. "I made it," he says. "That was all I wanted to do."

    Then he discovered cyberspace.

    On a walk in New York's Greenwich Village one afternoon in 1993, Lessig noticed a headline in the The Village Voice: "A RAPE IN CYBERSPACE." It was Julian Dibbell's account of a virtual sexual assault in a MUD. Lessig had recently read Only Words, a book on sexual harassment by Catharine MacKinnon (he'd taken a course with her at Yale), and as he read Dibbell's piece, Lessig was struck by how closely the concerns of the participants in the virtual world (devastated by "only words") resonated with those of MacKinnon, whose radical views (porn isn't protected speech) were generally considered anathema at the Voice. This suggested to Lessig that cyberspace was virgin intellectual territory, where ideas had yet to be boxed in by orthodoxy.

    "It was a place where nobody knows their politics," says Lessig. He began thinking about the concept of law in this nonphysical space, and made notes for a course on the subject.

    Lessig taught Law and Cyberspace as a visiting professor at Yale in the spring of 1995. That semester he had his first intuition about the relationship between code and the law. In the course of discussing searches and the Fourth Amendment, a student wrote a paper about how Internet worms could search someone's computer and then disappear. It made Lessig wonder how new technologies could shape law. His thoughts led to something that flew in the face of his students' near-drunken optimism about the Internet: Restrictive code, whether embodied in legal regulations or in computer programs, could trump the seemingly unstoppable freedoms delivered by the Internet. At the time, John Gilmore's exultant claim that "the Internet sees censorship as damage and routes around it" was widely accepted as truth. But Lessig began to think that it was less truism than wishful thinking. The right -- or wrong -- code could indeed implement censorship or surveillance or other injustices. "That insight," says Lessig, "became a central way of organizing the law of cyberspace."

    Lessig began to develop his ideas into a book, and when he was offered a fellowship at Harvard in 1996, he decided to write it there. At the time, the law school's Charlie Nesson was beginning to organize the Berkman Center for Internet and Society, a branch of the law school devoted to cyberspace issues, and the administrator set his sights on hiring the field's first superstar. "We had to have him," says Nesson, who allocated half the center's $5.4 million initial budget to support Lessig as the Berkman professor. Lessig took the post in the summer of 1997 and was almost finished writing Code when, just before Thanksgiving, he got the call from Judge Jackson.

    The formal appointment came on December 11. It was an unusual job -- and unusually important. As special master, Lessig was given the power to gather information independently, examine witnesses, and evaluate technical data, all with the authority of the court. Then he would produce his own report and recommendations, which theoretically would provide a blueprint for Judge Jackson's eventual ruling and remedy.

    Microsoft objected, claiming there was no legal basis for such a role. "We felt that only a federal judge, appointed by the president, could make such determinations," explains Microsoft's general counsel Brad Smith. During the first conference call Lessig organized between the opposing parties, Microsoft's lawyers told the putative special master that they would not be cooperating while his role was under dispute. Lessig politely but firmly informed them that he had a job to do, and would proceed whether or not they argued their side of the facts. Bluff called, Microsoft quickly changed course.

    "I like your spirit!" Judge Jackson faxed Lessig after that showdown. "You have the makings of a federal court judge."

    Lessig held several more lengthy conference calls between the participants, each time asking for more technical information. Ironically, the same issues he was seeking to resolve -- like the effect of removing the Explorer browser from Windows -- are items of contention in the current iteration of the lawsuit, almost five years later. Certainly, Microsoft had the opportunity to have a neutral legal observer navigate the complicated technical issues at a depth that a judge could not attempt. Instead, the company chose to use every measure available to block Lessig's participation.

    Specifically, it claimed that he was not neutral. The Softie lawyers recast Lessig's various writings about "code" as an anti-Redmond rant. (In one passage, Lessig compared the relatively open Internet Engineering Task Force to the "absolutely closed Microsoft Corporation." Microsoft claimed this was equivalent to calling the company "a threat to political freedom.") Then they introduced what seemed like a smoking gun: an old email Lessig had sent then-Netscape executive Peter Harter, asking if his copy of Internet Explorer was messing up the bookmarks on his Mac. Lessig had made a joke about installing the software, putting a quote in parentheses: "Sold my soul and nothing happened."

    "So Microsoft winds up saying I should be kicked off because I use a Macintosh," explains Lessig. "But they're also talking about how my language about code is political -- code has values -- and they would fill their briefs with this, as if I was some lunatic crazy."

    Because Lessig was bound by confidentiality, he couldn't speak out. "This was his professional reputation at stake, and he couldn't respond," says Harvard Law's Zittrain. When Judge Jackson ruled on Microsoft's challenge, he predictably dismissed the company's objections, making it a point to call their attacks on Lessig "defamatory." Microsoft appealed. Lessig filed an affidavit explaining that the "sold my soul" line was actually a riff on a Jill Sobule song. "Its meaning in context was not the confession of some profound 'Faustian bargain,'" he wrote. "It was instead a facetious response to an anticipated tease in an email between friends." Lessig also insisted that the passages in his writings about Microsoft in relation to his theories of "code" were similarly neutral.

    For Microsoft, the proceedings were just business, as Tony Soprano says. Nothing personal. Even though the controversy is over, company counsel Smith won't go on the record to say that Microsoft dealt unfairly with Lessig. However, he does allow that Lessig "is a principled intellectual thinker" who does not "have an animus toward anyone or anything." (Meanwhile, Lessig has since developed a friendship with Microsoft chief technical officer Craig Mundie; they're co-chairing a panel on identity and cyberspace.) In theory, when the Court of Appeals removed Lessig from the case, the judges could have added a line to the effect that they looked at Microsoft's claims against Lessig and found them without merit. The fact that they didn't still rankles him.

    "You know, the Microsoft case was such a gift, and the problem was so interesting and fun," says Lessig. "Not getting a chance to finish was extraordinarily frustrating. And not getting a chance to finish it in the context where lots of people thought I was kicked off because I was biased was doubly frustrating."

    At any rate, the episode helped get Lessig's name out. Code was published in 1999 to wide acclaim. Before the book arrived, cyberlaw was an amorphous collection of ideas and issues that awkwardly transferred current laws and regulations to the supercharged new digital landscape. Lessig gave the field a foundation with his sweeping analysis. He argued that the very architecture of software applications and the Internet comprised a sort of legal system unto itself, one that could be altered by outside forces. "Larry looked at an extant debate and said, 'This is the wrong debate,'" says Zittrain. "Once you hear it, [his theory] is obvious." By providing a framework to look at how law applied to the Internet and new technologies, Lessig had, in effect, lifted cyberlaw from the practice of a disparate group of lawyers, representing hackers or toiling in intellectual property or coping with spectrum regulation, into a coherent field of study.

    Lessig had mapped the battlefield. It didn't necessarily follow that he should become a warrior. But he did. "Code was an academic book," he says. "There's an argument about how cyberspace is changing and how commerce will change cyberspace. And there's a frustration with libertarians who are oblivious to the sense in which it's regulatable. But it wasn't yet a movement." Writing Code, though, planted the seeds for an activist approach.

    One of the potential consequences of Lessig's architecture-as-reality argument was that code could wind up protecting intellectual property -- in theory, even to the detriment of free speech and conventional fair-use protections. Indeed, when viewing developments on the late-1990s Internet through that filter, Lessig saw that copyright holders were implementing such a system -- boldly and expeditiously.

    "The things I was pessimistic about [in Code] happened more dramatically and quickly than I thought they would," he says. "What turned me into an advocate was seeing how the law was being used [to implement] an extremist conception of intellectual property. It was dishonest, in a certain sense, an overreaching corruption of a political system." The Napster case was a prime example: By shutting down Shawn Fanning's peer-to-peer music distribution network, the record labels had ended an infinitely promising experiment. To Lessig, it was the classic move of a dinosaur using its heft to stifle innovation.

    A different dinosaur tactic now occupies Larry Lessig: the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act. Because of Disney's role in juicing Congress to pass the bill, some have nicknamed it the Mickey Mouse Preservation Act. To Lessig, the extension was a power grab, particularly troubling in the world of the Internet, where copyright is a bigger club than in the predigital world. (Simply reading something on the Internet involves copying it, and the movement of files can be tracked.) Lessig had originally been excited by the Internet's potential as a vast commons of shared information. The Bono Act was a prime example of how the law could starve that commons. Working with the Berkman Center, Lessig set out to challenge the law.

    "Sold my soul," he joked about Microsoft. The email became a smoking gun.

    But how would he frame it? The obvious way was to say that with its most recent extension, Congress had finally gone beyond any reasonable interpretation of what the framers could have meant by "limited." That approach hadn't worked in the past, so Lessig constructed a different argument. In Article 1, Section 8, the founding fathers not only instructed Congress what to do regarding copyright -- secure "for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries" -- but also stated why they should do it ("to promote the progress of science and useful arts"). Of course, Lessig's complaint includes the idea that Congress' continual extensions make a mockery of the word "limited" (one professor called it perpetual ownership "on the installment plan"). But the main thrust of Lessig's argument rests on the fact that, as with previous extensions, the Copyright Term Extension Act not only grants new copyright holders a longer term of exclusivity, it grandfathers in previous works. A retroactive extension of copyright clearly violates the Constitution.

    In Lessig's view, the wigheads in Philadelphia had laid out a bargain for creators of intellectual property: We want you to develop original art and science, so we'll give you an incentive -- a temporary monopoly on the use of your work. In theory, this means that Walt Disney would lay out the money to make a cartoon knowing that he'd have a certain number of years to collect the royalties. Yet granting Walt (or his heirs) a longer period for works created before most of us were born doesn't promote progress; Steamboat Willie is already here. Obviously, a retroactive extension can't provide an incentive -- "Gershwin isn't going to write any more music," notes Lessig. To the contrary, the cause of "art and science" actually suffers under retroactive extensions, because works that otherwise would have been returned to the public are kept in private hands.

    Lessig's arguments are controversial. Intellectual property lawyers generally never considered them: The very basis of their universe is the assumption that Congress can do whatever it wants with the copyright clause. "I am a great admirer of Larry Lessig," says Jack Valenti, Hollywood's master lobbyist. "But Congress has the power to say what 'limited' is. It's there, it's unambiguous. Fifty-five men in Philadelphia decided it, and there's no way a court can overrule that." When Lessig went to his colleague Arthur Miller, he heard much the same thing: Of course Congress can do this. (Miller later wrote an amicus brief in defense of the law.)

    Lessig's response is fairly unlawyer-like. "This is one of those issues where you're not permitted to disagree," he says. "There are a lot of issues where that's fair. This is not one of them. They're just plain wrong. I believe that if they weren't working for clients who had millions of dollars hanging on it, if we sat down in good faith and talked about it, they'd come around to seeing it my way."

    So Lessig and Berkmanites Nesson and Zittrain put together a team to launch the challenge, including corporate attorney

    Geoffrey Stewart. Stewart considered Lessig "a genius," but was surprised by his passion. "He wasn't out to make a statement, but wanted to win," he says.

    The next step was finding a plaintiff, someone suffering harm by the extended copyright period and the abuse of the Constitution it represented. Actually, several would be needed, each absorbing a different blow from that abuse. Lessig and his team collected a stellar cast. There was Dover Publications, forced to scrap its plans to publish The Prophet and Edna St. Vincent Millay's The Ballad of the Harp Weaver (both prevented by the act from entering the public domain). There was a nonprofit group dedicated to preserving old movies. (Because early films are protected -- with copyright often assigned to owners who can't be traced -- there's no incentive to save them from the ravages of erosion, and they're literally killed by copyright.) A choir director at an Athens, Georgia, Episcopal church who relied on public-domain sheet music. Two publishers of historical works. But the most important among them would be the lead plaintiff.

    The obvious choice was Michael Hart, founder of the Project Gutenberg. For years, Hart had been posting text files of public-domain books on the Internet; his online library was approaching 6,000 titles. When Lessig and his colleagues flew to Hart's hometown of Urbana, Illinois, to explain the case, though, Hart was adamant that the Berkman team's briefs integrate his manifestos attacking the greed of copyright holders. Anything less, he felt, would make him a mere "figurehead." Lessig wouldn't compromise: "Our view was that populist appeals are great, but you've got to frame a constitutional argument." Finally, Hart said, "Enough -- you can't use my name."

    The Berkman team desperately cast about for another lead plaintiff. The answer was a 59-year-old former Unix administrator named Eric Eldred who publishes HTML-based works in the public domain from his cable modem-equipped house in New Hampshire. He wanted to use some early Robert Frost poems whose copyrights were due to expire -- until the Bono Act dictated otherwise. And so Eldred became a name that may one day join Roe, Brown, and other famous plaintiffs in Supreme Court decisions. The complaint was filed in January 1999.

    The first round took place in the DC District Court before Judge June Green. As is the custom, Lessig and his team filed their initial complaint and gathered supporting complaints from lawyers who joined the litigation. Kathleen Sullivan, the dean at Stanford Law, advised them on a friend-of-the-court brief charging that the Bono Act violated the First Amendment by restricting access to speech without the special scrutiny required in such circum-stances. The government's brief countered that Congress is free to set whatever term it feels is appropriate, period. In October, Judge Green sided with the government, on the briefs alone. "I wasn't surprised she upheld the statute," says Lessig. "I was just surprised she did it without allowing an argument." Strike one.

    The Berkman team took the case to the Court of Appeals later that year. This was the first and only time Lessig appeared in court on behalf of a client. "It was one of the better arguments I've ever seen," says Geoffrey Stewart. "He knew all the cases, and there was no point too grand or too trivial to escape his grasp. At a certain point, the level of questioning changed from a classic appellate argument to a dialog of genuine give-and-take." Lessig himself was pleased: "I was nervous before it started, but once it got going it was great fun," he says. The proof, though, would be in the decision: Since an ultimate victory would come only in the Supreme Court, a favorable ruling wasn't absolutely necessary -- yet if the decision unanimously upheld the law, there would be practically no chance the Supreme Court would agree to hear the case.

    The verdict was 2 to 1 supporting the government. Strike two. Even so, Lessig got his dissent, from the most conservative judge. When the Berkman team asked the entire circuit to hear the case en banc, the request was denied 7 to 2, but they picked up another dissent, this time from a liberal judge. Those into reading legal tea leaves noted that such range made the case more attractive to the Supreme Court. However, most observers thought that the Supremes would leave it alone -- and thus were surprised when the Court granted cert to the case earlier this year.

    I catch Larry Lessig for our last interview at his office at Stanford, his home base since leaving Harvard in 2000. (He's still an affiliate at Berkman.) Lessig explains that his wife, lawyer Bettina Neuefeind, wanted to move to the West Coast, and Stanford offered him a chance to promote his brand of activist cyberlaw by starting new initiatives. The beginnings of a mini-empire have sprung up around Lessig at Stanford. First he formed the Center for Internet and Society, a combination think tank and law clinic that handles -- and sometimes takes the lead litigating -- cases involving civil rights and issues of digital technology. With the Creative Commons, he hopes to provide a technological means through which content creators can publish their work unconstrained by current copyright restrictions.

    It's an ambitious project requiring complicated protocols that let authors tag their works as publicly available and help readers locate and reuse those works. "It's a conservancy, like a land trust, where people can get access to content in the public domain that otherwise wouldn't be there," says Lessig. Will people flock in droves to give their work away? It's an interesting question; Lessig, who adores the open source movement, is betting they will. "I think it could be widely used," he says. He plans to spend most of next year getting the organization off the ground.

    After the interview, we whiz up Highway 280 from Stanford to San Francisco in Lessig's two-seater Audi TT sports car -- purchased with his special master fees -- for an informal dinner with his wife. She is a former student (Lessig, ever the picture of probity, assures me there was no funny stuff until three years after her graduation) who works in Oakland representing low-income defendants in housing cases. It's a different kind of lawyering than Lessig's: If she loses a case, her client is on the street.

    Which takes us back to the issue of why he fights. Sometimes, in his own dark way, Lessig notes the lack of gritty urgency in his own work, and questions his direction. In an earlier interview I asked him why, of all possible causes, in a world fraught with terrorism, hunger, and oppression, he has chosen to storm the ramparts for the cause of intellectual property. It's something he's asked himself frequently.

    "This is the first time I have an answer. There are issues I think are deeply unjust about our legal system, outrageously so. You know, the legal system for the poor is outrageous, and I'm wildly opposed to the death penalty. There are a million things like that -- you can't do anything about them. I could go be a politician, but I just could never do something like that. But [cyberspace] was an area where, the more I understood it, the more I felt there was a right answer. The law does give a right answer."

    Since that conversation, however, he's been working over the question and he's having doubts. Compared with his wife's involvement in the high drama of real life, what impact is he really making?

    It's interesting that he's taking the question so seriously -- but totally consistent with his glass-half-empty approach to life. From the outside, it seems that Larry Lessig's existence has been privileged. Nice upbringing. Ivy League education, then Cambridge and top law schools. The best clerkships. Tenured law professor. And now an acclaimed author, speaker, and, ultimately, Supreme Court litigator. Yet he doesn't see it that way at all. "I always feel I should have been better at each of those steps. I bring to it this expectation that there's a lot more somebody else could have done."

    "So far I've lost, lost at every level."

    What about Eldred v. Ashcroft, where Lessig took a case that no one thought plausible and now has it before the Supreme Court, with a chance to make history? Glass half empty. "So far I've lost," he says. "Lost at every level."

    Still, those representing the dinosaurs of the old economy would be mistaken if they assumed that the introspection of the private Lessig in any way compromises the strength of the public Lessig. Fighting the government will be a mesmerizing speaker armed with the confidence of superior brainpower and a conviction that he's on the side of the angels. It was this belief that made his 278-plus hours as a special master a blissful idyll: Despite all the previous failed attempts to do so, Lessig felt he could see the right way out. And he feels it again now. "You know," he says, "going to the Supreme Court with this case -- I created this case -- is that kind of chance."

    To anyone who's followed Lessig's brilliant career, the Microsoft episode is long over. But to the man himself, the legal boxes and loose-leaf binders he carried to Stanford are very serious baggage. On October 9, Larry Lessig will get his chance to finally leave it behind.

    Contributing writer Steven Levy (steven@echonyc.com), the author of Crypto, profiled Stephen Wolfram in Wired 10.06.

  27. Big honking typo in that article by May+Kasahara · · Score: 2, Informative
    I read it, and although it was indeed well-written, there was a very large factual error. As even the most casual animation history buff would know, Steamboat Willie was NOT the first Mickey Mouse cartoon; rather, it was the first Mickey short-- and the first American cartoon ever-- with synchronized sound. Steamboat Willie is the third Mickey film; the two silent ones that came before it were Plane Crazy and Gallopin' Gaucho.

    The article does point out-- correctly-- that Disney's lobbying for copyright extentions has a lot to do with the Steamboat Willie and a many other early shorts. Willie stands out because of it's historical signifigance (all the more reason for it to enter public domain, IMHO), but it's often misquoted as being the first "Mickey". I hope Lessig doesn't use this misquote in his case against the Supreme Court. I'm all for the idea of copyright, but the lengthening of copyright extentions to protect such documents has gotten way out of hand. Obviously, this issue has been discussed in the animation industry for years, and there are many animators-- both working and retired, corporate and indie-- who are against the Copyright Term Extention Act, simply because it is detrimental to the cause of film preservation. Disney is supposed to have an incredibly well-maintained archive, but there are many, many non-Disney motion pictures that are deteriorating due to their owners' negligence.

  28. An Alternative Would Then Be... by jaaron · · Score: 2

    Okay, I understand that there are many reasons to dislike current copyright laws, but that is not to say that intellectual property right protection, be it patents or copyrights are a bad idea. It is their misapplication and abuse that result in the mess we often see today. Otherwise what do you propose to take their place?

    Without some sort of protection guaranteeing that I can recoup the investment costs of creation (be it research and development or simply the creative costs of writing a novel), what incentive do I have to create anything to begin with? Why should I contribute *my* ideas so that you can do whatever you want with them, without my permission and without my compensation? If I labor, I am entitled to require payment for my labor -- it is trade. If my labor is then primarily mental rather than material, why should I expect less for my work?

    The need for proper balanced intellectual property protection is needed now more than ever because with today's technology is it easier now more than ever to reproduce someone's mental labor. Now, balanced protection is important, and arguing what is balanced is difficult and honestly I don't currently have a better solution. However, to claim that all copyright protection is wrong only shows that one wants to do nothing but be a freeloader, feeding off the creative works that *others* produce claiming that you, who have produced nothing, have some divine right to benefit as well.

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    1. Re:An Alternative Would Then Be... by argoff · · Score: 2


      When people "freeload" on information - this is not a burden on societies resources, and that people think of information like they would of pyhsical property is half the problem. Linux and it's developers are doing fine without this "protection", and I would be very happy if all of society adopted this alternative.

      The copyright form of protection is a farce, it is like the plantation masters of the 1850's saying they had no incentive to grow cotton without laws that protect their slave properties. But it is not a form of protection, it is a form of controll over others.

      The alternative is to let all information be free. If getting rid of copyrights causes someone to loose controll over say 100K worth of "intellectual property" in return for free use of billions of dollars worth of other "intellectual properties" then only a fool would consider it a loss.

  29. Critique... er.. flamebait by kinghype · · Score: 1

    Firstly, kudos to the article. It's nice to see that wired and its staff are on the ball and have at least one top notch reporter.

    Secondly, the Internet IS the creative commons, why do we as people, freethinkers, and artists need to make various renditions of other peoples work? Let Disney own Mickey; let our own minds own our own works. Have some faith in our new technologies and those whom work them to supersede past intellect. The problem with copyright legislation is that it is pointless; copyright in itself is antiquated. Information is abundant; if there are any restraints made on certain formats or expressions then those will be the same that die out, with or without legal restraints.

    Thirdly, Lawyers should focus on providing service for those whom lack understanding of laws and its convolution. I feel as though Mr. Lessig is a physicist working on extra-physical phenomenon. It is a shame that his wife retains his lost practicality.

    Lastly, I hope he wins, only to help his supposed reflected upon self-worthlessness, to build his pride, and drown out his humility, as it is unnatural for an lawyer to carry.

  30. Lawrence Lessig @ TechTV by bigd0g · · Score: 1



    Untitled Document

    TechTV featured Lawrence Lessig on one of their shows, Big
    Thinkers. Listen to him explain his view of cyberlaw in a video clip found
    at the same web site...

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    If you can't run with the bigd0g, stay on the porch!

  31. Thorough interview w Lessig by klktrk · · Score: 1

    Here's a link to an interesting interview that was just posted with Lawrence Lessig. Some really good, in depth conversation on the case. Here, he talks about public-domain web-publishing, the history of copyright, and the relevance of Thomas Jefferson to the internet. Enjoy! http://www.immaterial.net/page.php/95/

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  32. finite time copyright protection? by Groote+Ka · · Score: 1
    a thousand years is finite as well...

    Good luck, Mr. Lessig.