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Cringely On Civil Disobedience

Sauron23 writes "Robert Cringely over at PBS has his usual weekly Pulpit out. This weeks it's a follow up to last weeks discussion of one of the enforcers of the DMCA, BayTSP. He clarifies some of the issues surrounding a planned bust in October for P2P users sharing movies and makes perhaps an unusual request for civil disobediance from P2P users. I don't know what 10 million pirated copies of "Debbie does Dallas" would be worth either Bob. Probably more than the courts would want to handle. Worth the read." Some of the stronger parts of the column, IMHO, is the commentary on the e-mails people sent in.

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  1. How come by Apreche · · Score: 2, Funny

    when I call for civil disobedience in posts on slashdot I get modded down to all crap. Yet when some other guy writes an article about it, he gets a news post.

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  2. Re:not effective by Amarok.Org · · Score: 4, Funny
    A more effective way to show your displeasure with the current legislation may be to protest in "real life"

    Wait... and leave the warm, safe confines of our parent's basements? Are ye daft, lad?

    It's much more fun to rail against the injustices of the world instead of actually doing anything about it. Geeze. Some people.

    (For the humor impaired moderators out there, move along - these aren't the droids you're looking for)

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  3. The fine line between geeks and nerds. by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny
    Fear me oh evil corporations, watch as I share my full collection of Star Wars videos online. From my parents basement I stab at thee.

    Some how I dont think anyone is really going to be impressed by a bunch of nerds holding a virtual "sit in" on a P2P network.

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  4. It's a movement! by Paul+Lamere · · Score: 5, Funny


    And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in with an MP3 of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

    And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-DMCA Movement, and all you got to do to join is rip it the next time it come's around on the guitar.

    1. Re:It's a movement! by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Funny

      So there I was sitting on the group W bench...

      (kudos to the great post)

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    2. Re:It's a movement! by Reziac · · Score: 3, Funny

      What'd I GET? I didn't GET nothin'. I had to PAY fifty dollars and clean out the Trash folder!

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    3. Re:It's a movement! by Rader · · Score: 3, Funny

      ....and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there.

      Mother rapers.

      Father stabbers.

      Father rapers!

      Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
      they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
      bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
      father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
      'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
      and said,

      "Kid, whad'ya get?"

      I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and delete my mp3's."

      He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"

      And I said, "Trading Mp3's".

      And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
      said,

      "And creating a nuisance."

      And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
      father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.

  5. With my luck... by BlackBolt · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'd download "Debbie Does Dallas", turn myself in, and be the only one there, forever a laughing stock and the brunt of Cringely's cruel joke.

    BlackBolt

  6. Someone please post by jann · · Score: 3, Funny

    a link to debbie does dallas. I want every assistance to start my civil disobiedance

  7. It really won't work ... by pantropik · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seriously. Won't work. I tried it.

    I have a friend of a friend who's a city cop here (Tallahassee, FL -- state capital). After reading the article, it occurred to me: so what would an everyday cop walking the beat (she actually has a cruiser, but that's beside the point) actually say if something like this came up.

    Anyway, I e-mailed the friend and asked whether or not the cop was online. I don't know her well enough to just "barge in" (odd that I felt the need to confess POLITELY to a federal crime, but I digress). Turns out she is, so I left my e-mail addy and screen name with the friend. I'd pretty much forgotten about it until later tonight when a message window opened. To make a long story short, my confession went something like:

    "I recently used my laptop to watch The Matrix. Since I run Linux, I was forced to use an illegal decryption algorithm in order to watch it. It's my DVD, though. I bought it when it first came out. Anyway, if you guys want to arrest me I can give you my address."

    I really think she thought I was some kind of nutcase. But she was polite. "Why was that illegal," she asked, "if you own the movie?"

    I explained, briefly, and gave the spiel about "circumventing protection schemes".

    She said, "You bought the movie. Watch it however you want, just don't copy it and sell it outside the mall." Kind of an inside joke, since a modest-sized music-pirating ring was busted here a while back. They were burning illegal CDs and selling them openly at swap meets and the like. Why? Because, for months, the cops apparently had NO CLUE they had an obligation to do anything about it. Or maybe they just didn't care until someone lit a fire under them. Who knows.

    I finally asked: "Aren't you going to arrest me? I'm guilty of, I dunno, dozens of violations of federal law. I wouldn't even know how to guess how many times I've gotten bored and thrown a DVD onto my laptop."

    She gave me an LOL and said, "I don't know what would be more stupid. You trying to get arrested for something like that, me for being willing to do the paperwork over something like that, or any prosecutor who'd stop doing his job to go after you for it."

    I guess the city cops haven't been briefed properly on the finer points of cybercrime, so people like me could happily watch The Matrix illegally on the courthouse steps and the Powers That Be would just smile and keep on walking.

    In the tiny little town where I grew up, my uncle was the sheriff ... I wonder if he even knows what a DVD is ...

    Interestingly enough, the conversation went on for quite a while after that. Seems she was intrigued by Linux. She's currently using Windows ME,that steaming piece of crap someone at Microsoft decided, for whatever reason, to call an operating system. How the same company that created Windows2000 could create THAT is beyond me. Anyway, as converts go, ME users are generally an easy sell. It's not like things can get any worse, right? Maybe I can get her to convert ... eventually she'll want to watch a DVD while she surfs the web or something ... and then ... oh yes ... then she'll be one of us ...