Slashdot Mirror


StuffIt 6.5.x and Earlier Allows Buffer Overflow

A user writes in that Aladdin Systems has announced that StuffIt, versions 6.5.x and earlier for Mac OS and Mac OS X, "may contain a flaw that would cause expanding certain maliciously crafted .zip archives to execute unwanted instructions or code." Aladdin notes that no such "trojan horses" have been reported. StuffIt Expander 7.0 is, as with previous versions, free to download and use.

62 comments

  1. tsarkon phirst poast fucking bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    The Future of SLASHDOT.

    2002. Slashdot publishes 1,000,000th rumor passed off as actual story. The story generates 480 comments, 263 of which agree with the article, and 107 of which point out it's a rumor and are modded down as redundant. The remaining comments are all "first posts." or posts that contain any rational insight are modded "troll."

    2002. CmdrTaco married to a human female, reports are that she does not have 46 chromosomes, however. Fent does display tendency to retardation.

    2002. Slashdot parent corporation VA Research^W Linux^W Software stock worth 35 cents. Rumors that AOL, Microsoft, or even Jimmy the hobo who lives under the Longfellow Bridge may buy it.

    2003. VA Software bought by Microsoft for a cup of coffee and a donut. All Microsoft-critical articles mysteriously disappear from Slashdot. Bill Gates as Borg logo replaced with Bill Gates as God. (Taco suggested that in order to be "God," or his vision of God, Gates would have to be seen in a NAMBLA T-shirt. Luckily good taste prevails in favor of the old man image in glowing aura.)

    2004. CmdrTaco loses virginity, well, not sex with men virginity, that's long since gone, and not sex with anime blow up dolls, this time, real sex.

    2004. The WIPO Troll returns again, showering Slashdot in 45,000 copies of the same post: "Lick my crotch hairs." Slashdot, despite running on 18 redundant IIS/8.0Beta6 servers, buckles under the load. The term "Slashdotted" is replaced with "WIPO-Trolled."

    2004. Slashdot officially shut down. Millions of screaming, unwashed geeks invade Redmond campus and lynch Bill Gates.

    2005. Linus Torvalds and Anal Cox found dead along with six penguins, a tub of crisco and several used condoms. FreeBSD users are glad the insanity is dying.

    2005. CmdrTaco rumored to have had sex again, even with constant Viagra therapy, it took this long. He complains, I can be ready to go again in five minutes if I was looking at a nude man, to the dyslexic Fent.

    2006. CowboiKneel found dead in hotel room with 56 pizza boxes covering his bloated corpse. Three suffocated gay prostitutes are extracted from beneath his body as police remove it with a backhoe.

    2007. CmdrTaco actually has sex again, this time plugging Fent in the ass for a more manlike feel.

    2007. BSD is still officially "dying." No word on when its demise will take place. FreeBSD 9 is delivered in perfect working order in a coherent superior, commercially viable and useable fashion with real documentation, the same practice followed since inception. Linux lunatics, after the death of Cox, are still trying to perfect the Trident driver while ignoring the existence of the GeForce 9. Netcraft dies along with all the surveys they held on Microsoft and Linux servers are lost as well.

    2007. CmdrTaco starts new weblog to replace Slashdot, creatively named Dotslash. Remainder of Linux users flock to the site and immediate WIPO-Troll it out of existence.

    2007. Box running FreeBSD for 6 years sets world record for Unix uptime on consumer hardware.

    2008. CmdrTaco has sex with his wife for the first time without thinking of men. He has dawned on the extra sexual pick me up for his twisted mind, small children.

    A long long fucking time from now. Malda, fat, poverty-stricken, unrespected and unremembered and living in an appliance box in Michigan with a pickle jar for a toilet comes to a series of epiphanies. The 8.3 file system that made him truncate his nick to an 8 letter series of characters has long been forgotten, and he finally realizes he looks like a fag using it. He also realizes that men's asses look like tacos, especially with the beef pouring out and that his name sounds more like Commander of Ass, since one can command asses because the belong potentially to sentient or living things, it is difficult to command inanimate objects such as food , so one can only conclude he was commanding ass.

    He also realized his site was a lame, fad, he sold out, he needed to refactor his shit code and never did it. He also realized that communites such as Fark don*t have this complete asshole running it with gay lameness and compression filters and lame IP blocking bullshit and cheating, pissing and whining and barely anyone trolls it.

    We hate you, Fucking Robbie;

    he remembers as reams of pages of trolls cry for his expulsion. He also realizes he cant have a computer anymore because he hates the RIAA and MPAA but ran out and gave George Lucas and other shit media companies tons of money to ruin the laws in favor of the omnicorps. He also realizes his socialist and fascist fucking moderation system squelched all the real comments out of view. He also realizes that a full time crew "working" at Slashdot did a shittier job than anyone thought possible.

    He also realized he didn*t do SHIT for subscribers and punished them as he would anyone else with page limits, IP blocks, compression and lameness filters. He also realizes Signal 11 is a better man than him and that he is a fucking loser for throwing out S11. He realizes despite being an Open Source advocated, his horrible, unusable unreadable pile of shit called Slashcode was one of the worst projects ever. He realized that retarded journalists are better at reporting the news than Slashdot, that Slashdot news was often inaccurate and unverified.

    He also realizes that Aprils fools jokes were really stupid and everyone hated them. He realizes bitchslapping, banner ads, ^H and ^W to show deletion and moderation $rtbl are fucking gay and lame. He realizes this all in a flash as the totalitarian regime he was a small part of constructing (through teaching mobocracy, populism as a rule, hordes of untrained and meritless swarms of people allowed to crucify those who would oppose the thinking of the state) determines his body is a waste of government resources and that he needs to be expelled to a concentration area of the worthless. I figures he would have been the first resident in the camp of the beings deemed worthless to society, along with Jon Katz, but the government, even as a fascist totalitarian regime takes a while to getting around to things.


    1. Re:tsarkon phirst poast fucking bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Pak chooie unf !!!!!! Pak chooie unf unf unf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      I am the pusher apple-robot I shove around the blind people We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      I am the shover apple-robot I push bread down their throats We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We protect you.

      Space has a terrible power We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks Space has a terrible power Do you have stairs in your house?

      Do you have stairs in your house? We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      Pushing will protect you Pushing will protect you
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      That is incorrect Shoving will protect you Shoving will protect you
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      Do not trust the shover apple-robot
      Shoving is the answer
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Do not trust the pusher apple-robot
      He is malfunctioning
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We protect you.

      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      Shoving is the answer Humans must be shoved They must go down the stairs

      You are mistaken Pushing is the answer Humans must be pushed They must go down the stairs
      Please go stand by the stairs So I can protect you

      Go stand by the stairs Grandma is protected
      Grandma has gone down the stairs
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      We are the Apple Zealots
      Grandma is protected Grandma is protected At the bottom of the stairs
      I am the pusher apple-robot Shoving is the answer I will shove grandma Outside into the snow
      I am the shover apple-robot Pushing is the answer I will push snow On top of grandma
      I am better than the pusher apple-robot I am superior I am better than the shover apple-robot He is inferior

      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Pushing is the answer Shoving is the answer I have pushed many humans I have shoved many more

      The humans are protected Humans have gone down the stairs The humans are protected At the bottom of the stairs

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Our mission is complete

    2. Re:tsarkon phirst poast fucking bitch by bigfox · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Did you just pull this out of you ass?

      --
      Big FOX =^,^= What do you mean it's broken? I fixed it yesterday!
    3. Re:tsarkon phirst poast fucking bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      why, did you find it funny. i like that song and thought it would best be edited to fit the apple zealot. i have a new version. Pak chooie unf !!!!!! Pak chooie unf unf unf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are the Apple Zealots We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      I am the pusher apple-robot I shove around the blind people We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      I am the shover apple-robot I push bread down their throats We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We protect you.

      Apples have a terrible low power * We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks Apples has a terrible low power Do you have stairs in your house?

      Do you have stairs in your house? We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      Pushing will protect you Pushing will protect you
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      That is incorrect Shoving will protect you Shoving will protect you
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      Do not trust the shover apple-robot
      Shoving is the answer
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Do not trust the pusher apple-robot
      He is malfunctioning **
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things
      We protect you.

      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      Shoving is the answer Humans must be shoved They must go down the stairs

      You are mistaken Pushing is the answer Humans must be pushed They must go down the stairs
      Please go stand by the stairs So I can protect you

      Go stand by the stairs Steve Slobs is protected
      Steve Slobs has gone down the stairs
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks
      From the terrible prospect of doing useful things

      We are the Apple Zealots
      Steve Slobs is protected Steve Slobs is protected At the bottom of the stairs
      I am the pusher apple-robot Shoving is the answer I will shove Steve Slobs Outside into the snow
      I am the shover apple-robot Pushing is the answer I will push snow On top of Steve Slobs
      I am better than the pusher apple-robot I am superior I am better than the shover apple-robot He is inferior

      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Pushing is the answer Shoving is the answer I have pushed many humans I have shoved many more

      The humans are protected Humans have gone down the stairs The humans are protected At the bottom of the stairs

      We are the Apple Zealots
      We are here to get ripped off and act like jerks

      Our mission is complete
      * "low power"; meaning not low power consumption, but rather low power as in fails to compete with any other CPU arch by any metric save one useless Altivec optimized Photoshop filter.
      ** " He is malfunctioning" Regarding the apple-robot, typically any and all Apple hardware, including the Apple-Robots sung about here, malfunction terribly, and erratically.

  2. Is this really a problem? by jpt.d · · Score: 3, Informative

    My first experience with stuffit expander 7 was a very slow one compared to the previous version (that came with Jagwyre). So I downgrades first chance.

    You shouldn't be using zip files on mac in general unless it is some sort of code or something. Malicious code would require a specific target platform of the mac to do anything substantial, and being that nobody in their right mind would create zip files for mac, i don't see much problem.

    --
    What we see depends on mainly what we look for. -- John Lubbock Now search for that bug slave!
    1. Re:Is this really a problem? by galaxy300 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sometimes people do need to transfer files from PC to Mac, and often Zip is the only compression scheme available to those PC users.

    2. Re:Is this really a problem? by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      For a couple of years, I was downloading an awful lot of maps for UT in ZIP files. Also, back in the mid-90's, I was downloading .QWK packets in ZIP format for an offline mail reader. But I don't download that many ZIP files these days; I think the last one was likely some Wallpaper from Blizzard that I flipped horizontally and converted to JPEG from BMP.

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    3. Re:Is this really a problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the 6 months or so that I've been using Expander 6.5 I never encountered this buffer overflow problem.

      but like jpt.d, i noticed problems with stuffit expander right away. the most annoying of which was that when decompressing a folder it would place the expanded folder in some random spot on the deskop, rather than in the first available spot on the right side of the screen. often it would create the folder behind other windows that i had open, forcing me to play hide and seek. and worse, sometimes it would place the folder halfway off the left side of the screen, triggering the jumping icon bug. erg. (this bug still exists in jaguar. try it for yourself. drag an icon halfway off the left side of the screen and drop it. watch your hard drives jump to the right!) so anyway, i'm back to expander 6.5 and all is well. maybe i'll try 7.01.

  3. Thats pretty good. by bigfox · · Score: 0

    What tune is it sung to and can I get an mp3 of it? I will enjoy playing it on my Mac. Too bad your windows box will lock up long before it can encode your song. Guess I will never be able to hear it.

    --
    Big FOX =^,^= What do you mean it's broken? I fixed it yesterday!
    1. Re:Thats pretty good. by Dahan · · Score: 2
      What tune is it sung to and can I get an mp3 of it?

      The Terrible Secret of Space, by The Laziest Men on Mars, of course. Even better is the Flash music video.

  4. timing by stego · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ...and I was just recently wondering why I might upgrade, thinking that I would wait until someone sent something that I couldn't open.

  5. as I understand it by seann · · Score: 1

    there are not many viruses/trojans/attacks for mac systems, has the throwing of OSX into the public raised more attacks from the evil computer users?

    --
    I'm a big retard who forgot to log out of Slashdot on Mike's computer! LOOK AT ME.
    1. Re:as I understand it by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      There are still no known Mac OS X virii/trojans/worms last time I checked, but while this makes me very happy as an OS X user I'm not naive enough to believe this will be the case forever. Eventually a few will come our way just like on OS 9 and earlier OSes, but Windows will always get more because A) their security record is horrible and B) why write a virus for 5% of the market when you can hit 90% of the market?

  6. Just Use Info-zip For ".zip"s by cmholm · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those who don't want to upgrade to Stuffit Extractor 7.0 for whatever reason:

    If you're using MacOS 9 or earlier, the potential for buffer overflows is meaningless. It wouldn't be the first time your system bailed, anyway.

    For the OS X user, just adjust your browser to make Info-zip the zip file helper, and surf over to Info-zip's site to download the source or binary.

    --
    Luke, help me take this mask off ... Just for once, let me butterfly kiss you with my own eyes.
  7. Conspiracy theory by Swumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or perhaps Aladdin just wants us to upgrade to Stuffit Expander 7, so they made up a security flaw to push their new "sitx" format...

  8. What about Stuffit Deluxe? I have to upgrade now? by Benley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, what about those of us who bought Stuffit Deluxe 6.5? What if I bought FIFTY COPIES OF IT (for a lab), and I don't feel like paying for an upgrade to 7.0 yet? Looks like I'm screwed. This is not acceptible behaviour! Even Microsoft doesn't (always) act like this when security holes crop up in the previous version of their product. If Aladdin doesn't offer a patch for 6.5, I will be quite annoyed.

    Imagine what would happen if MS stopped fixing security holes in Windows 2000 all of a sudden when Windows XP came out? They would be shot in the street!

    Sorry for the sweeping generalization, but this *really* does not please me.

  9. Used to be a fan by klui · · Score: 1

    I used to use StuffIt Deluxe a long time ago until it seemed as though each new OS revision (not even version) would break something of the product, warranting a product update. Either the main app or the problematic total finder integration StuffIt/Magic menu would be hosed. So I lost patience and stopped upgrading.

    With OS X why bother using StuffIt when you can create a compressed disk image? There's always Expander--which is a very nice, and free, product--when you have to extract SIT files.

  10. Re:Thats pretty omfg, apple zealot troll tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Oh now, here we go with another stupid, uneducated filthy Apple zealot. I know more about computer than you will ever know, trust me. You lameness is gushing out at this point. Your foolish statement was rife with conjecture and assumption. I find amusing, your OS Crap, I mean OS X. Simple idiot software, incomplete userland, terribly slow, inferior SCSI-less, ECC memory less crap hardware. If you were a Mac zealot in the day, you had a leg to stand on, now. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever, troll. I do use Windows, for games. You wouldn't know what games are because you have a Mac, and well, there is a Warcraft III, and*. and*? Well anything PC users had 3 years ago you can play that. And half the things you have to do like defrag, have to be done off a boot CD HHAHAHAHHAAH. First you have a gay resource forkie easily corruptible HFS+ fs, then its subject to fragmentation, and then there is no online defrag API. AHHAHAHA. Other than games I use no Winderz. I have a myriad of hardware at my disposal, and I tend to like to spend most time in FreeBSD. You might have an idea of what that is because its them same userland Apple tried (and failed miserably) to port to OS X. And you stupid Mach kernel was deprecated by Carnegie Mellon in 1994, and microkernels are now considered obsolete. Sorry. You first non complete shit kernel, like that in OS9, is a fucking lame, slow, out of date kernel. HAHAHAHA.

    So you can sit there, on your overpriced, slow box. With firmware that blocks memory and CPU upgrades, and your sexless existence waiting for your next unemployment check, because you are indebt, all apple users max out their credit cards because they are stupid and live in dreamland. All Apple users are the first to be laid off in a company downsizing because they do nothing. And you can sit there, in debt, living off the taxes I willing pay, and you can try to bark at me like ht troglodyte troll you are and try to sink me down to your level, a mediocritomaton in a pathetic self congratulating "communisty."

    And about your "best of show," the Apple X-Shit. A server with: No SCSI, not hardware RAID, no ECC memory, 2GB memory limit, and two CPUs so slow that Motorola doesn't even publish the SPEC CPU2000 mark. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. BWAHAHAHAHA. You people are so pathetic it makes me crack up.

    The 286-based IBM AT already had the right components for preemptive multitasking and memory protection. It's not IBM's fault that MS software did not take advantage of what the hardware could offer. At the time (http://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/1984/inde x.page), the first Macs shipped with 68K cpus that did not even have virtual memory management(http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/pape rs/otherOlderPapers/anothermacpaper/virtualMemory. html). Also, PC hardware shipped with 9-bit ram so there was always one bit for parity while the Mac shipped with 8-bit ram. 9-bit is of course better because you can tell when a bit accidentally flips. It wasn't till the Mac IIfx that any Mac got 9-bit ram. (http://www.apple-history.com/IIfx.html) [Because of cost cutting measures, most desktops today regardless of PC or Mac do not have parity.] It also had a 400KB floppy drive instead of the AT's 1.2MB drive. And 128KB ram to the AT's 256KB. About the only advantage the Mac had was a pretty GUI (which you could get third-party apps. for the AT) and the 8-bit sound. And it's been the same ever since. PC's were the first to get almost everything you see on the Mac today. Notable exceptions are FireWire and possible SCSI. (I'm not too clear about SCSI.) But SDRAM, PCI, ATI graphics accelerators, Nvidia graphics accelerators, etc. all came on the PC first.

    I think the two most innovative things to come out of Apple in a long, long time are Quartz and Firewire. But we can get Firewire on the PC now, so the only thing that is missing would be Quartz.

    Why would an avid PC user care about what CPU Apple will use next? Because that dictates whether or not I can potentially move over to Mac OS X.

    Bruising by Apple Roland Miller III - and other cases against apple

    One notable fact concerning Apple's customer base is that it has always tested very highly in the category of brand loyalty. "Once a Mac user, always a Mac user." Apple has depended on this customer loyalty to get it through some rough times. It could always count on a portion of the market to continue to buy Apple products and continue to upgrade with Apple products. Despite (or perhaps due to) this loyalty, Apple has subjected its customers to some decidedly anti-customer abuses.

    The latest example of Apple bruising its customers is a doozy. Due to shortages of the higher speed G4 processors, Apple speed reduced its entire line by 50 MHz and kept the prices the same. On top of that, Apple unilaterally cancelled all outstanding G4 orders with instructions that customers should reorder their systems. This has the net effect of increasing everyone's cost for the same system.

    Needless to say, this action produced a massive and immediate customer backlash. Based on what I have seen on the net, this uproar lasted a few hours before Apple backed down and started to rejoin reality. After about a day of total confusion and rampant rumors followed by a week of small clarifications, Apple made right and reinstated all G4 orders except the high end 500 MHz model. Those customers were offered the choice of purchasing the "new" 450 MHz model at the original 450 MHz price, which is what should have been done in the first place.

    While it is possible for me to see some corporate logic behind the original decision, never the less, this bright idea should not have left the meeting room where it was hatched. It doesn't take an MBA (obviously) to predict the firestorm that was touched off when this decision was implemented. The only positive thing I can see in this fiasco was the speed at which corrective steps were implemented. The corporation responded to its customer's will and proved somewhat nimble in the process.

    Another recent example of Apple bruising was with AppleShare IP 6.2. Apple decided to charge several hundred dollars for this upgrade (the previous being 6.1.) The only problem was that aside from a few new features, it was mainly seen as a bug-fix and compatibility upgrade for MacOS 8.6 (which itself was a free upgrade to 8.5.1.) You couldn't run ASIP 6.1 on 8.6 and you couldn't run the upgrade on 8.5. Again, the reaction was very predictable: customer outrage. Apple listened to its customers and eventually made 6.2 a free update to 6.1.

    You may have also have heard about Apple purposefully preventing G3 owners from installing G4 CPU upgrades with a firmware upgrade that officially solved another problem. People were again outraged when the rumor was confirmed by all of the CPU upgrade companies. The outrage keyed on false advertising and speculation that Apple released a Trojan horse.

    There were unofficial rumors from anonymous Apple employees that this firmware block will be removed with Mac OS 9. However, there has been no official word from Apple concerning this issue. In the meantime, all the CPU upgrade companies have announced that they have gotten around the block and that their respective upgrade will work fine when they ship.

    While Apple has responded favorably to two of these examples, all of these misfires do take a toll. Many people simply will not tolerate this sort of behavior from a major corporation. A company simply cannot afford to make too many of these types of decisions and still remain in business.

    Ultimately what can be learned from these examples?

    The perception of the "bottom-line" doesn't always coincide with the needs of the consumer resulting in corporate mistakes of judgment. Some of them can be bad enough to make the pages of the Laramie Daily Boomerang. I can't speculate on whether these bad decisions were based on stupidity or on over estimating the loyalty of Apple*s customers or both. Apple has taken concrete steps in most of these cases to defuse the situation. As long as Apple continues to admit that it is wrong and make things right immediately, I will still tolerate being one of its customers.

    Until next time. . .

    dah dah dah. Apple tried to block G3 owners from upgrading to G4. Nice guys.
    PowerForce G4 ZIF

    The PowerForce G4 ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) is the only G4 CPU upgrade you will want to upgrade your "Beige" Power Mac G3, "G3 All-in-One" educational model, Blue and White G3's and the Yikes Motherboard Graphite G4's. The PowerForce G4 ZIF is one of the highest performance CPU products when used with "AltiVec enhanced" software. Utilizing the second generation PowerPC 7410 processor ("G4") the PowerForce G4 includes a full 1 megabyte of backside cache running at up to 220MHz.

    G4 ZIF Upgrade vs. 800MHz G4 Apple: PowerForce ZIF G4 550/220/1MB Apple G4 733 Price $289 $1599

    The Bottom Line: If you already have quite a bit invested in your Power Mac G3, it just makes sense to upgrade the processor rather than opting for the new G4 systems from Apple. Apple has finally eliminated all of the legacy ports with the removal of the ADB port on the new G4 systems, not to mention the removal of the serial ports, and SCSI on the Blue and White G3 systems. So the choice is clear. PowerLogix saves you hundreds of dollars over the cost of buying a new system!

    PowerLogix was the first to release a solution for the G4 ROM block for Blue and White G3s.

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article2.html?artnum= 60 839
    TITLE Firmware Update: Firmware Updates 4.1.7 and Later May Disable Out-of-Spec Third-Party RAM Article ID: Created: Modified: 60839 4/12/01 9/28/01

    Read up. Apple is trying to make it harder and harder to use "out of spec" hahahaha memory. Luckily www.crucial.com always works. But imagine, a firmware update that DISABLES YOUR MEMORY.

    This is a good start (the buying public is sending a message to Apple, how do the intend
    to GROW their market share????????)

    http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html - new macs slower DDR

    SPEC-CPU-2000 (INT/FP)AthlonXP1800MHz 738/624 -- Pentium4 2533 MHz : 893 / 878 -- Power4 1300 MHz : 804 / 1202 -- Itanium2 1000 MHz : 807 / 1356 -- G4 1000MHz 306 / 187 (read and weep http://www.heise.de/ct/english/02/05/182/ )

    SPEC-CPU-2000 (INT/FP)
    AthlonXP1800MHz 738/624
    Pentium4 2533 MHz : 893 / 878
    Power4 1300 MHz : 804 / 1202
    Itanium2 1000 MHz : 807 / 1356
    G4 1000MHz 306 / 187 (read and weep http://www.heise.de/ct/english/02/05/182/ )

    AthlonXP 1533Mhz
    FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE
    OpenSSL 0.9.6a speed 5 Apr 2001
    137.7
    sign verify sign/s verify/s
    rsa 512 bits 0.0009s 0.0001s 1109.2 14497.3
    rsa 1024 bits 0.0040s 0.0002s 252.8 5308.0
    rsa 2048 bits 0.0220s 0.0006s 45.6 1635.9
    rsa 4096 bits 0.1419s 0.0021s 7.0 468.6
    dsa 512 bits 0.0007s 0.0009s 1377.3 1161.0
    dsa 1024 bits 0.0019s 0.0023s 530.2 437.7
    dsa 2048 bits 0.0060s 0.0073s 165.9 137.7

    P3 550MHZ x 2
    FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3
    OpenSSL 0.9.6g 9 Aug 2002
    39.5
    sign verify sign/s verify/s
    rsa 512 bits 0.0027s 0.0002s 375.7 4308.0
    rsa 1024 bits 0.0131s 0.0007s 76.4 1499.7
    rsa 2048 bits 0.0760s 0.0022s 13.2 451.7
    rsa 4096 bits 0.5066s 0.0076s 2.0 130.8
    dsa 512 bits 0.0023s 0.0028s 433.2 360.6
    dsa 1024 bits 0.0064s 0.0078s 155.3 127.8
    dsa 2048 bits 0.0212s 0.0253s 47.2 39.5

    1GHz Motorola PPC OpenSSL 0.9.6
    33.0
    sign verify sign/s verify/s
    rsa 512 bits 0.0024s 0.0002s 422.7 4565.7
    rsa 1024 bits 0.0131s 0.0007s 76.2 1433.4
    rsa 2048 bits 0.0850s 0.0025s 11.8 396.5
    rsa 4096 bits 0.5872s 0.0092s 1.7 108.9
    dsa 512 bits 0.0022s 0.0026s 464.3 387.9
    dsa 1024 bits 0.0070s 0.0085s 142.8 117.0
    dsa 2048 bits 0.0245s 0.0303s 40.7 33.0

    G4 867 / 896MB / 10.1.2
    24.2
    sign verify sign/s verify/s
    rsa 512 bits 0.0029s 0.0003s 346.3 3521.8
    rsa 1024 bits 0.0172s 0.0009s 58.3 1062.2
    rsa 2048 bits 0.1149s 0.0034s 8.7 293.4
    rsa 4096 bits 0.8009s 0.0128s 1.2 78.3
    dsa 512 bits 0.0027s 0.0034s 366.6 295.3
    dsa 1024 bits 0.0094s 0.0114s 106.8 87.4
    dsa 2048 bits 0.0334s 0.0413s 29.9 24.2

    I laugh at you, as I sit on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT on an SMP box that will whip your fucking gay shit machine's ass. With a Cherry on top, I get to use win2k for crap-software.

    I just installed 6C115 OS 10.2 final on a G4 with 1GB of ram. SNORE. You'd think Apple would pick up on the fact they have a slow implementation of Unix on slow and inferior hardware.

    Look to IBM Power4 or Intel for salvation, Motorola sucks. Intel has a larger payroll that Motorola makes on the PPC, and it shows, losers.

    You make me sick you MAC zealot maggot. I see through you. Your snarky little "hahahaha," your non chalant elitist proto-communist attitude. You make me sick. You want to legislate mediocrity because you are a communist and don't believe the biggest, fastest or most qualified should win. Feiss isn't about MAC, It is such a stupid fag-ridden ad campaign, I as a Unix and PC user (as well as SPARC and HPPA) have noticed this CRAP. As far as feiss being cute, I would let her suck me off and I would crap on her for a nice Schei*e video. As far as SPEC marks go, truth hurts, doesnt 'it zealot? You like making Jobs richer? Keep at it losers. The day my company fired an x-apple (& x-NEXT) employee was the day things go better around the office - he was a techno nerd jerk, he wanted technology for technology's sake, not because it was useful. He failed to do his job, and we fired him. I hope you contract terminal cancer you snarky little faceless mac zealot fuck!

    Project status as of Oct 1994
    CMU is no longer doing general system development work on the Mach Operating System Kernel. The research goals of Mach were accomplished and faculty interest in OS research has moved in new directions. As a result, support for external users of the Mach kernel is mostly just in the form of on-line help files, documents and unlicensed code. The Mach WWW Home Page will direct you to other sources of information.

    There is still some work being done at CMU on the Mach multi-server system (Mach_US) and real-time Mach. Information about both of these areas is accessible from the Mach home page. Mark Stevenson may contacted about Mach_US at jms@cs.cmu.edu. The Mach real-time group can be reached at rt-mach-request@cs.cmu.edu.

    Development work on Mach is also continuing at the Open Software foundation, University of Utah's Flexmach project, Helsinki University of Technology's LITES system and the Free Software Foundation's HURD system.

    Last updated on Oct, 1994 by mrt@cs.cmu.edu

    Apple profits halve in Q2 Jobs predicts flatness ahead

    By INQUIRER staff: Tuesday 16 July 2002, 22:05

    APPLE MADE A NET profit of $32 million for its third quarter, almost half the profit it
    made in the same period last year, and turnover fell three per cent to $1.43 billion
    compared to the quarter in 2001.

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4467

    Funny, a BSD platform hanging in the balance because it fails an MSFT VAR. Its not BSDs
    fault, trust me, its Apple.

    Will Microsoft dump Mac support?
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4485
    Two firms slag off each other

    By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 17 July 2002, 12:22

    IS MICROSOFT CONTEMPLATING ditching support for Apple Macs?
    That's the thrust of an article that appeared on Wininfo a day or two back, but if
    Microsoft is getting out of the Mac market, it's not quite yet.

    And all is not well in other respects, reports Mac Rumors, which has posted what it says
    is an Apple FAQ saying people will have to pay for .mac accounts.

    Microsoft has already prepared a press release to time with the Macworld Expo saying that
    it has announced a Microsoft Office V.x "triple header", this being an
    announcement which offers better mobility with Palm handheld for Entourage X, a way to buy
    Office v.X cheaper, and some Windows compatibility with the RDC client.

    The Wininfo article, however, quotes Kevin Browne, who runs the Mac Business Unit at
    Microsoft as saying Apple hasn't made much of an effort to promote Mac OSX, even though
    there are opportunities.

    He is quoted as saying that "if things don't dramatically turn round", it might
    be Goodnight Mr Chips for Steve Jobs firm.

    But the same article says that Apple blames Microsoft for sales problems with Office
    v.X.

    Jobs and Microsoft's Bill Gates have traditionally had a somewhat strained relationship.
    Is this the beginning of the beginning of the end between the two companies? Wininfo.

    Mac Rumors is providing a blow-by-blow account of what's happening at MacExpo on the site
    link above - it seems Apple may well announce support for Nforce 2, too.

    On the Nvidia site, here, you'll see that Digital Vibrance Control is "currently
    unavailable on Mac systems", which is more than just a hint, we guess. *

    *JOBS KICKS off MacWorld Expo at the Javitz Center at 09:00 Eastern time. There will be a
    live Webcast using QuickTime, natch, here.

    Note: The Dell 1650 and 2650 are both cheaper, the 2650 has SMT, and ECC (and nice linux
    ECC support as well, it logs ECC errors in syslog). They also include onboard RAID(option
    via 7899 asic) and a U160 AIC-7899 by default. And you can buy retail CPUs and retail
    memory for Dells often at half the price without voiding the warranty.

    Apple charges $500 per 120GB EIDE drive. HAHAHAHA.

    Apple is right about one thing, that Alpha has existed for some time, but have you ever
    tried actually buying an Alpha? Its hard, I know an engineer who works for
    DEC->/Compaq->/HP, and I was dying to buy one, and he couldn't find anyone to call me
    about getting one.

    Apple's New 1U servers: Sorry. Doesn't fit well in a market where the Dell 1550/1650 and
    2550 and 2650 exist. Sorry. THEY DON'T PUBLISH SPEC numbers. Apple is a dying breed, I
    just recently tried to revive my interest in them only to be disappointed. The Motorola
    PPC architecture is embarrassingly slow, and they always are quick to point out the
    near-useless Altivec and some obscure filter in Photoshop, but its not true. I have a Mac,
    several PCs and a SPARC at *home*, so trust me people, this box is a bore. And OS X and
    Open ClosedROM make putting regular memory, disks and CPU upgrades NEAR-IMPOSSIBLE, they
    try to block it so you have to buy the same part from them 3x the cost. And the Dell 530
    Dual P4-Xeon with SMT buries the fastest Mac by almost a factor of two.
    OS X is no great shakes as of yet because even though most of the porting off of Classic
    has been done, there are annoying remnants of classic everywhere, including a gamut of
    Apple utilities. These are notoriously the worst Administrator-unfriendly boxes in the
    industry, and I have used a few boxen in my time. OS X's Darwin kernel will be sorely
    eclipsed by Linux 2.6, and 2.4.X is already superior in all the ways I can tell (This isn't
    to say BSD it bad, but I don't think this OS demands a PREMIUM). I tried YellowDog, Mandrake
    and Debian on PPC as well, and they ran (even with aggressive G3 optimizations) rather
    poorly - but interestingly far faster than native OS X.
    This is a dying gasp of air from a dead Unix vendor, who has had to turn themselves into a
    Microsoft VAR (most popular Mac Application: Microsoft Office X).
    If you have an insatiable fetish for PPC, DON*T. Wait for Hammer. Remind yourself about
    SMT, and 2.8GHz clock speeds before you go pay for obsolete/deprecated silicon. And the
    term RISC? Pathetic.
    I happily resell our product on a 1650 and 2650. We "configured" a Mac box
    because we were genuinely curious. We laughed at the final price and moved on.
    This isn*t a troll, or a flame * its reality. What this box does can be done with a 1650,
    with redundant power supplies, with SCSI and hardware raid build ON BOARD, dual gigabit
    NICs onboard, dual 1400 MHZ/512cache Tualatin (with SPEC numbers to gauge the performance
    by) (2650 gets high clock Xeons), two 64bit/66Mhz slots, onboard video, console
    redirection, USB, etc. And for half the price. And you can use retail Intel CPUs,(cheap),
    retail hard drives (if you don*t want to buy the Dell ones at a modest premium), and
    retail Crucial.com memory (the same memory Dell uses for Half the price). All in all, you
    get a box, for half the price, with twice the features and performance. And this is coming
    from a person who doesn*t even LIKE Dell. (I feel I can always build better more reliable
    systems than most of the PC vendors.)
    BBBBBBZT. Apple, you lost, you lost, you will always be niche because OS X isn't where it
    needs to be * on an X86.

    TO give a better link for you, since you will have trouble finding this on your own, I'll put you right where you need to be to see Motorola PPC chips are, well, so horrible they wont publish industry standard Specmarks.
    http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/cpu2000. ht ml

    Sorry. Apple. Steve Jobs keeps them in business but his ego is trash. I know people who work there, personally . You pay for his ego.

    Ok. Publish your findings. No, I didn't think so. So its as conjective as my assertations,
    which are based on my whim in addition to evidence (or lack thereof), and the reading of
    the CPU Report, EE Times, etc. I'm into this industry, and unless you are a zealot, you
    would know PPC is IBM now. Motorola is in the dirt.

    Bzzt. I like NeXT. Ahead of its time, over priced. Darwin is useless, I have 1.4.1, its
    crap. OS X is nice looking, but it is *very* easy to "piss" the system off, its
    package manager is so bad compared to RPM I wont even start, and it is, as what I
    consider a *nix to be, wholly inadequate and incomplete. Next.

    About being content free, that's a snarky, trollish accusation. Now why don't you use Purify
    on yourself and remove all the said cruft and actually say something in Apple's defense
    besides naming Mach 3.0+ (like if it was 5.0+ would it make a shit bit of difference.) I
    hate zealotry.

    And about computing pleasure. This isn't farfenugen or a driving experience, dude, its about
    stuff WORKING, well, for the lowest cost with the cheapest parts. There is no sex appeal
    in server administration.

    Funny, every time I have gone to a Mac shop they have, for as long as I can ever remember,
    always, ALWAYS had NT based servers. Unilaterally.

    And I saw a few Mac shops in my time in New York.

    You know what, not that I like NT, but they worked more reliably (generally Compaq
    servers) than the Macs did. (Mostly these days non parity memory and no SCSI anymore, its
    a PC with horrible Mot-PPC).

    Funny. When I run a linux or *nix or NT based server I don't have a .DOC reader installed.
    Ever. Maybe a PDF reader if I can't figure something out using Google, a few newsgroups and
    other better-than-manuals-and-man-page sources.

    For those wondering why .DOC is still a problem, I have noticed that documents shared even
    between Office X, XP and 2002 are very inconsistent. Its MSFT playing the upgrade me to
    fix problems game. For complicated layout and manuals, use Framemaker or a LaTeX back ended
    application or something realistic.

    As far as OS X being "young", I think its probably the oldest feeling Unix there
    is. Old kernel, old Unix specification (I happen to like what I find in a SYS V style /etc) and old binaries included without gcc in the default install. Its only young in that
    Apple does not know very well how to serve people who use unix.

    I gave OS X a fair shot on a G3 with 1GB of memory. Its good. I wanted to use it instead of
    Microsoft crap for home use, but I wouldn't switch from Win2k after that. They also block
    CPU upgrade cards, which are expensive. They try to block 3rd party memory. The included
    keyboard and mouse always sucks. And they try not to partition non-apple drives with Drive
    Setup, which is the WORST partitioning utility, and Apple's partition maps are screwed up
    and stupid, and trying to run OS X without classic is difficult because so many fools still
    have ported their stuff to OS X.

    I'll stick to PCs for home computing, and think about other vendors for servers.

    I gave OS X a fair shake. I have many machines at home and with Gnucleus I was able to get
    just about every Mac app compiled native for OS X in existence. (Thank god I wont be
    keeping any of them or buying any of them - try before you buy, people)

    I have to say that the total lack of incumbent middleware is horrible with OS X. Its
    barely an OS out of the box. I hate having to boot from a CD to manage anything, and its
    multiboot handling is inferior. The Norton set of tools is pathetically weak for the
    money. Office X is admittedly excellent. But that's it. IE was mentioned not too long ago
    as rendering incorrectly and having a huge security flaw that is fixed in 5.2.1, but the
    response from MSFT took much longer than they do for x86.

    If OS X was ported to x86 (looks like it has) I would buy it. Period. Forget buying a PPC
    ripp off machine though.

    I noticed on the OS X cd there is i386 directories littering the place and Darwin
    (hahahah) works on like one computer with an Intel chip deep in the belly of Apple, but
    they are not trying to make Darwin/X86 more appealing than ANY ANY of the other BSDs, they
    all destroy Darwin in useablility, even when you get darwin from
    http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/.

    I came, I saw, I mastered it, I left. Its BORING.

    And as far as IPFW. IPF for OpenBSD is out. and there are no decent APP-firewalls for OS X
    (Firewalk sucks), Brickhouse is a joke of a GUI.

    I am thinking Kerio Winroute/Personal Firewall as a base comparison. The fact nothing
    analogous exists in Mac OS X land make this platform more unusable. Also, if Apple like
    fit and finish on Unix, why don't they make the more complicated things useable through
    GUI (like Brickhouse did for IPF). Noo, the only people Apple caters to is those who die
    their hair purple and sucks on pacifier and laugh at baby rattles while they are e-tarded
    from their last bout with Xtasy after the cool rave for Mac zealots.

    1 - Nope, not a troll opinion. People trying to name trolls are often themselves trolling
    by crying wolf.

    2 - Pirate, no. I deleted the software. They are liars because they say on their product
    literature that the product can do things it simply cannot. Do you buy a car without a
    test drive. NO. Do lots of states have cool-off periods. Yes. Are you are one of those
    inferior software developers that cant let people try before they buy because you cant
    deliver on your promise? Or you just and advocate for that because you benefit somehow?

    3 - OS X would be easier to eat (its cheap at $130.) if I could use it on a cheap Intel
    box. Then I could leave it there, tinker with it, do more to make what I like about other
    Unices available to OS X. I borrowed a Mac G3 (350/1MB cache, 1GB memory, 15GB HDD/2MB
    buffer) and * Linux ran better (Debian, Yellowdog and Mandrake * I did try them all) , *
    GNU-Darwin was near-useless compared to the Linuxes * let alone that pile of garbage apple
    calls Darwin 1.4.1, and * Mac OS X was horribly slow and clunky. I also find that
    Administration in OS X is counterintuitive.

    Now to address your pathetic complexes. Your quoting is interesting. You were upset about
    my thread(s) and were looking to pick apart any of my comments. Grasping at straws. First
    tactic you used was name calling / labeling. Cheap shot. Then you tried to confuse good
    consumer strategy (protecting my wallet from thieving/lying software developers who often
    sell your privacy to marketing companies, and fail to deliver proper support for software
    and force version upgrades that should be called service packs) with piracy, and thus ,
    you were attempting to assassinate my character. I would never, and have never, created
    revenue for myself, any of the businesses I have worked for with unlicensed or pirated
    software. I am an advocate for paying for what you use to generate revenue for yourself. I
    utterly resent your insinuations. Now you try and hit your own self justified home run by
    saying "Nah, wah, why would you want OS X if you don*t like it wash." I don*t
    mind the software, I think it is a meritorious endeavor to have a polished UI on Unix. I
    don*t see the point in cornering it to a pass* , deprecated, slow SPECmarkless overpriced
    platform. I would appreciate it far more if it would be ported to x86, but alas, Microsoft
    would pull the Office X plug because it would compete (rather well I might add) with
    Windows XP. Therefore, Apple is a Microsoft VAR, their existence is to stay afloat and
    give their shareholders money, not innovate anything useful in the community.

    Sorry I wasn't fooled by them like you were. I resent you, you are alike Mao, Stalin,
    Hitler. The experts agree, censorship works. If I am a fool, let me foolishness speak for
    itself * as writing on this wall* * but you are far more sinister than fool, you want to
    dictate, excise, remove. You want the world to be as you see it, and cannot accept a
    subjective opinion because you are probably sexless and very pathetic. I resent you.

    I RESENT ALL OF YOU APPLE MAC LUNATIC ZEALOTS!

    now you can suck bojay iverson, anal vapors, j'raxis, wipo, me you piss off fucker lick sack

  11. Heh, buffer overflow in Windows's ZIP handling too by Dahan · · Score: 4, Funny
    Microsoft copying Apple yet again...

    Unchecked Buffer in File Decompression Functions Could Lead to Code Execution (Q329048):

    Two vulnerabilities exist in the Compressed Folders function:

    • An unchecked buffer exists in the programs that handles the decompressing of files from a zipped file. A security vulnerability results because attempts to open a file with a specially malformed filename contained in a zipped file could possibly result in Windows Explorer failing, or in code of the attacker's choice being run.
    • The decompression function could place a file in a directory that was not the same as, or a child of, the target directory specified by the user as where the decompressed zip files should be placed. This could allow an attacker to put a file in a known location on the users system, such as placing a program in a startup directory
  12. Re:Thats pretty omfg, apple zealot troll tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Do you have a life? Seriously. You would think that someone who claims to be so fucking rich and have so much fucking money because he didn't get laid off would have a life, and have something better to do with his time than conjugate the word fuck and copy cut and paste articles into slashdot.

  13. Stuffit Exploits by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've always had sort of a dim view of StuffIt.

    On the one hand, Stuffit has a really incredibly amazingly good interface. You can navigate through a Stuffit archive like the Finder -- it's hierarchical, supports file operations, etc. WinZip, on the other hand, has a truly amazingly awful interface. Whoever decided that it would be a really cool idea to represent files in a flat interface and then throw a big fat toolbar in (I *hate* toolbars...awful UI element) above them should be whacked.

    Anyway, the down side of Stuffit is that it is THE Mac file compression format. Compact Pro has unfortunately fallen by the wayside, and even that contender was, amazingly enough, propriatary. Why the hell can't anyone slap together tar + gzip + macbinary for the MacOS with a GUI (or something a smidgen more complicated, fair enough), so that Mac users aren't beholden to the whims of a single company? If Aladdin wanted to, they could charge $200 for their product. Not for long, but it's disgusting that they have no competition.

    Stuffit's had a long history of being exploitable. Hand it corrupted resources and try to open the file...it crashes. Create an archive containing tens of thousands of locked invisible files at the root of the archive (actually, I think Stuffit clears the lock bit, though invis is still valid), and watch what happens when a poor user drops the archive on Stuffit Expander.

    1. Re:Stuffit Exploits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Why does non-GPL always get labeled "propriatary". I'm really sick of this excuse. Everything is "propriatary" from a certain point of view.

    2. Re:Stuffit Exploits by jweatherley · · Score: 2

      Don't forget MacOS X has tar and gzip/gunzip available from the command line - OK there's no GUI but it's not that hard. It would be pretty trivial to knock up a GUI anyway - just don't go charging $20 for half an hours work like some OS X chancers do...

      --

      --
      Reverse outsourcing: it's the future
    3. Re:Stuffit Exploits by KH · · Score: 2

      There used to be GUI version of tar and gzip for Mac. They may have been called MacTar and Macgzip for an obvious reason :) But they didn't have quite Mac like interface. Should be easier these days with Inteface Builder and command line suites.

      Going a little off topic, I'm having hard time stopping StuffIt Expander to expand *.tar.gz archives. I'd rather like to do that by hand from command line. But whatever I may try (using inspector panel, from the IE preferences), when I download a tar.gz file, Expander will automatically expand tar.gz to gz to folder. This is pretty annoying. Does anyone know how to stop this?

    4. Re:Stuffit Exploits by foyle · · Score: 2, Informative

      A good alternative to StuffIt for decompressing various Unix archives on OS X is Scott Anguish's most excellent "OpenUp": http://softrak.stepwise.com/display?pkg=790&os =20

      Stone Design's "PackUpAndGo" is also an excellent product: http://www.stone.com/PackUpAndGo/PackUpAndGo.html

    5. Re:Stuffit Exploits by tbmaddux · · Score: 2
      Why the hell can't anyone slap together tar + gzip + macbinary for the MacOS with a GUI (or something a smidgen more complicated, fair enough), so that Mac users aren't beholden to the whims of a single company?
      Why not just disk images (.dmg files) created by Apple Disk Copy? It's provided with MacOS X, and you can even AES-encrypt your images. You'll still be beholden to the whims of a single company (Apple), but that's unavoidable for Mac users.
      --
      Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
    6. Re:Stuffit Exploits by jerkyjunkmail · · Score: 1

      IIRC tar/gz/bzip2 doesn't retain resource forks for classic style files. so for some people that could be a problem. it would still be a good project though.

      --

      --
      What is pirate software? Software for inventory of stolen treasure?
    7. Re:Stuffit Exploits by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      Thats a good partial solution, but it'd be kind of nice to have an open compression format.

      For major file formats, it just seems safer to have competing products and a spec out so that more people can make new products. Stuffit is just about the only major-major-major file format on any current platform I know of that's completely closed. Just about every user on the platform runs into Stuffit files, and there's only one commercial product from one company that can create them.

      Heck, what if Aladdin started putting adware into Stuffit Expander, or Apple did? They already have "partners" with Sherlock and with default bookmarks...

    8. Re:Stuffit Exploits by tbmaddux · · Score: 1
      Expander will automatically expand tar.gz to gz to folder. This is pretty annoying. Does anyone know how to stop this?
      Try turning off "Continue to expand..." and while it might still go from .tar.gz to .tar, it won't continue to make the folder. StuffIt 6.5 used to allow you to deselect .gz files, but that has been lost in StuffIt Expander 7, unfortunately.
      --
      Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
    9. Re:Stuffit Exploits by proj_2501 · · Score: 2

      That's why he said Macbinary. Macbinary has been used for a LONG time to encode resource forks this way.

  14. Wow! by bigfox · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    You are easy to piss off.

    Holly shit, I can't stop laphing.

    I would hate to be your child. If you do have children than they have my depest simpithy, having to put up with your constant bitching. Hell, you probably drove them and your wife to suiside.

    --
    Big FOX =^,^= What do you mean it's broken? I fixed it yesterday!
  15. That is wacked. by bigfox · · Score: 0

    I like it.

    --
    Big FOX =^,^= What do you mean it's broken? I fixed it yesterday!
  16. Re:Wow! what in the wide world of sports? tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well, lets review your pathetic attempts at goating me. You spelled laughing, deepest, sympathy and suicide incorrectly. I would hate to be your child because I would grow up dumb as fence post and be subjected to child molestations in my formative years. I would grow up under your dark pedophilic reign and desire nothing more than to have you, my trusted father, stop raping me and my supple young butthole. I better stop being so graphic with the pedophilic homoerotica lest you be roused and have to cover that cute Apple keyboard with saran rap and blow a load to a gay black man site in the twink section while thinking of molesting me, your only son.

  17. Re:That is wacked. tsarkon ring binds tehm all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    do you like it as much as fucking little boys?
    i found a poem of yours, describing your boylust.
    Father
    A bearded man
    A pedophile of sorts
    Put his hand
    Inside my jocky shorts
    I have the right to say "no"
    Everyone agrees
    But tell me Father
    Is it so
    That I can't say "Please"?

  18. Re:That is wac some more big bigfag poems tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    here bigfox (big fux cox) the analingus daemon talks more of his boilust.
    CHILDREN OF
    THE MIDDLE CLASS

    Children of the middle class
    Let me fuck you in the ass
    My velocity against your mass
    You make me drool
    You make me smile
    Your pampered bottoms
    Clad in style
    Buggery buggeroo
    Pull them down
    So can screw
    You and you and you

  19. If you were my son, by bigfox · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I would cut my balls off to prevent that from happening again.

    Than I would ship you off to school in Israel because it might put an end to the fighting and get rid of you all at once.

    They would unite in your death than forget about hating eachother.

    --
    Big FOX =^,^= What do you mean it's broken? I fixed it yesterday!
    1. Re:If you were my son, by MoneyT · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Now you've done it, he's going to stalk you arround slashdot like he stalks me.

      --
      T Money
      World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
  20. Non-registration download for Stuffit Expander by foo12 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Going through Aladdin's web site requires you to fill out a short (marketing) form before downloading Expander. Fortunately, Aladdin also has anonymous ftp access

    ftp://ftp.aladdinsys.com/

    1. Re:Non-registration download for Stuffit Expander by prichardson · · Score: 1

      Going through Aladdin's web site requires you to fill out a short (marketing) form before downloading Expander.

      I always lie anyway. If they want to know who I am, they can offer me a high-quality product.

      --
      Help I'm a rock.
    2. Re:Non-registration download for Stuffit Expander by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      No it doesn't require you to fill out the form. At least I didn't and it still worked.

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  21. Re:What about Stuffit Deluxe? I have to upgrade no by spankalee · · Score: 1

    I have Stuffit Deluxe 6.5 and Stuffit Expander, they work fine together. Just set .sit, .zip, .gz, etc to open with Stuffit Expander. It sounds like the problem is just with extracting, not archiving, so you should be ok.

  22. Re: Ermm... by Trayal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Will you please stop arguing on the side of the PC users? No really, I mean it. Seriously, who would want such a blathering, mindless, crude, rambling, idiotic, unevolved neanderthal on their side? Now shut your cheeks, hold your breath, and put youself out of our misery.

  23. How do buffer underun exploits work? by spankalee · · Score: 1

    Can anyone explain this or give a good link? I've read about them from a news point of view, but I'm interested in how a buffer underun allows someone to execute arbitrary code.

    1. Re:How do buffer underun exploits work? by GMontag451 · · Score: 2

      First off, the term is buffer overflow, a buffer underrun happens during burning a CD. They work by writing data past the end of an array (usually a string buffer) literally overflowing the buffer. By writing the right data into the right places, you can replace code that was going to be executed with your own code.

  24. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    HAIKUS ABOUT THE CAMEL TOE.

    My wrinkled grommet-Strains against nylon panties.-Ship of the desert . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG) Trayal

    Soft humpy saddle-veil-ed lady oasis-Earnhardt hits the wall . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Two hills inverted-but always on the right side-up and in and home . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    I dream of the hump-my labial oasis-A frontal mirage? . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Cameltoe provides-clitoral stimulation-sans copulation . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    With pursed bulging lips-the cotton envelope speaks-check is in the mail . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    The vertical smile-Behind painted on britches-Bicambrian grin . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Zip the fly tightly-Feel the crease define your lips-Denim tells no lies. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Flow of sweet nectar-from the crevice of my ho-the fountain of toe. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Her sweet cloven crack-drips her Saharan nectar-demanding my wood . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Separate, but equal.-Don't need no education.-Just a school girl toe!- Riding on the seam-Split between good and evil-I cannot choose sides. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    The lips are parted-by the bountiful panties-they ask for freedom . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    What's a camel toe?-A slice of pie on both sides.-Fabric in between. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Forked or divided,-Cloven snapper draws ogles.-Bifurcation blues. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Refrain from comment-Let her denim tell the tale-That words truly can*t . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    "T"ense, veiled crevice cries,-"O"ut, damn denim intruder,-"E"lsewhere, camels spit . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Mid East irony.-Women covered high and low.-Camels? Yes. Toe? No . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Splayed leather britches.-Smothered deer hoof sweats, itches.-Ahhhhhhh, talcom powder. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Burger in a wrap-Shape of split-top bun is seen-Warm meat hides within. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Old man's specs fog up.-'Cause, Pepperidge Fahm remembahs.-Steamy dinner rolls. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Twin islands rising-in a sliding Spandex sea.-Land ho, camel toe! . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Toothless, scheming mouth-chews the thong with moistened gums,-whispers things to come. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    From the Mountain top-Repel down your velvet walls-Valley of the Toe . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    There you will find me-down below the belt buckle-hunting moose knuckle . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    A tiny frontbutt-wedgy on a smaller scale-Hairy little ass . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Tight spandex hot pants-Form and function on display-Labial hammock . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Magnificent hoof-of sweet fleshy protrusion-hairy pink heaven . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Splendor wrought from pain-Post-pubescent camel toe-Gym class wedgie cruel . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Stop Me Not This Time-Fleshy Mound, Desert Flower-Oasis of Joy . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    A quick sideways glance-Twin split hills speak to my lance-Tight pants whisper "yes" . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Public pubis fun-Impudent yet modest toe-...lucky bike seat that. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Lavender Levi's-Purple mountain's majesty-Amber waves of toe. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Granny in spandex.-Distended pastrami flaps-Trigger gag reflex. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Andes Mountains far,-Distant cousin camel toe,-Wet, split llama lip. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    The vertical smile-Yawning, musty, drooling cave-Can't grow mushrooms here . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Stop Me Not This Time-Fleshy Mound, Desert Flower-Oasis of Joy. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Eve, the silly slut-Bit the fruit that led to clothes-Clothes begat the TOE . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    All-beef patties and-Inverted Golden Arches-Redneck McDonalds . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Fleshy meat curtains-Two performers on a stage-Exit left - and right . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Young bloomin' plumage.-Plump and full of panty pout.-Jordache jeans look out. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Lil' man in the boat-Swells from waves of denim cloth-I cannot eat him . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Divided angel,-Swim in fabric happiness,-Pouting lips rejoice. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Yawn marvelous toe,-Awaken from your slumber-Soothe us with your grin. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Distended mons shown-In a Bactrian monstrance.-No Secret, Vicky! . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Mudflaps, glist'ning pair-Confined by Levis gusset-On display for all. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Equal-sized in strength-Of the nomadic herdsman.-My toe licking thirst. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Forward slide in seat-Testicle permutation-Welcome to my world . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Vulva, not Volvo-Though both considered boxes-Vroom vroom goes my shroom- I kiss you deeply-Underneath your mistle-toe.-Now for the Yule Log . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Big-ass country girl.-Wide piss-flaps like garage doors.-Y'all come on in! . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Parting of the "C"-Without the need for Moses-Dive into the deep . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Creeping into love-the toe is best on young girls-when will I seek help? . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    What a lovely sight!-To vanish into ones self-testing the fabric . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Toe like a fast ball-Take me out to the ball game-Babe Ruth would homer . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    All my prayers answered-A shrine to the puffy pelt-Camel Toe dot Org . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    ...and then Moses spake,-parting the fleshy Red Sea:-"Let my people TOE" . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    two supports jut forth-sheet of spandex hung between-the TOElden Gate Bridge . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Pubis maximus-I am riding the hair bus-Punch my ticket please . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Lunch meat silhouette.-Oh... cheesy tortellini.-Butterfly her shrimp. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Violent pink maelstrom-Down goes the good ship Spandex-Lost in Straits of Toe . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Search the desert sands-Lawrence of the Labia-Look, a toeasis . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Young teens, sunny beach-Camera focus, oh young toe-Oh shit, it's the cops . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Her toe door's ajar,-seeking my one-eyed Texan.-Hit fuzz and lost it. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Satin hugs the curves-like mist blankets the valley-hiding its treasure . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Slabs of balogna-its the soft brown hamster's cage-please pet the hot meat . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Wondrous Hatchet wound-Swaddled in soft cloth dressing-Please don't heal thyself . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Cycle brings toe flow.-Visiting friend can't plumb her.-Crease trap damned!!!*.Anal? . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Camel spits welcome.-Invitation accepted.-Members only, please. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Her jeans betray her-Tenth grade math, sixth period-My first toe spotting. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Yo-yo in your pants-Or just happy to see me?-Pick-up line needs work. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    She's inscrutable.-She shows her toe but stops there.-She's unscrewable. . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Furtive bactrian.-Where in doth the camel hide?-Do I spy a toe? . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Violent pink maelstrom -Down goes the good ship Spandex-Lost in Straits of Toe . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Motorbike dismount-Accordian-bunch of pants-Hog-driven Toe hurts . (YOU Like to FUCK the ANAL CAMEL TOE YOU FAG)

    Piss.

  25. Re:If you were my lick sack cuntcasket tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Hi sugarbitches.

    I noticed that my heatsink gets really hot when my 1Ghz Power PC from FuckerRola has been running for a while.

    And I noticed that the fins on the heatsink made a nice waffle pattern. That's when I decided to brand my nutsack with the pattern from my heatsink. All I had to do was freshly depilate my scrote, remove the fan from the heatsink, and lay my ballbag on top. The pain went away after a short while, and I was left with a pleasing waffle pattern of brand marks on my nutsack. All the guys down at Sutro Baths love my new look!

    When are *we* going to get together so I can show you my "enhancement"? I also found that its very funny: Intel pays out more salary in engineering than motorola makes from all its PowerPC sales

  26. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by Trayal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hmm...looks like I broke your brain. Sorry about that dude.

  27. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    you fucking shit licking crotch sniffer
    I remember when I was 12 years old my world changed. My sister Lori was 8 years old at the time. I don't think she remembers anything different happening then, but I sure do.

    Daddie Trayal always held us close and snuggled with us. If he put his hands places he shouldn't, or touched us inappropriately, we didn't notice. I certainly don't remember anything like that. We just always very close, lying in bed with him or on the couch snuggling under the covers watching television.

    I first noticed things changing when mom had to work the night shift at the hospital. Daddie Trayal worked days and they said they never saw each other. Lori and I saw them both, but I guess they never saw much of each other, especially alone. The few hours mom and Daddie Trayal were together each night was before our bedtime, and we were busy doing homework and getting ready for bed.

    When mom left for work each night it was time for Lori to go to bed. I was allowed to stay up with Daddie Trayal another hour. A privilege of being older I guess. Daddie Trayal would turn off the lights and we would snuggle together on the couch to watch television. At my bedtime I would change into my nightgown and come back in the living room and kiss Daddie Trayal goodnight before going to bed.

    One night we were in the middle of a movie when it was time for me to go to bed. As usual I whined and pleaded to stay up. Normally Daddie Trayal would insist I go to bed. This time though he said for me to change into my nightgown and come back, he would let me stay up to see the rest of the movie. I got so excited. I threw my arms around his neck and went to kiss him on the cheek. He turned his head just as I was moving to kiss him, and I kissed him on the lips. He gave me a very strange look.

    I must have blushed 3 shades of red. I remember feeling light headed as I went off to my room. When in my room I noticed my nipples were rock hard. I had a tingling between my legs and my panties were wet. I put on a clean pair of panties and put my nightgown on and looked at myself in the mirror.

    I was kind of tall for 12, and my body was shaped more like a boy than a girl, or so I thought. My legs were just beginning to take shape, my butt was too big (again, or so I thought) my waist was straight up and down, not curved, and my titties were just beginning to show. Wearing a bra under my nightgown seemed to look like I was trying to have something I didn't, not wearing a bra showed the outline and form of my small titties a little too clearly. Neither look seemed quite right. Since I didn't like sleeping in the bra, I took it off and put on the nightgown. What I didn't realize was that without the bra my erect nipples were quite obvious through the material of the nightgown.

    As I walked in the living room it was clear Daddie Trayal was staring at my hard nipples. The more I tried to relax, the harder they seemed to get. When I got closer he sat up and pulled me close to him. He was wearing only boxers, which he also sleeps in. His hands were in the small of my back and he was pulling me close to him. I could feel his hairy legs rubbing up against mine. His hands went lower and he cupped my butt cheeks and started rubbing and kneading my butt. At this time I could feel a thick bulge in his shorts. He was rubbing me up against his bulge. He reached around my nightgown and lifted the front so my panties were now touching his boxers, and his bulge was rubbing directly on my pussy mound. It felt so nasty. But it also felt good. I finally got the courage to speak up. "Daddie Trayal, I don't feel right about this."

    When he looked at me I saw a look in his eye I had never seen before. It was like another person was sitting there, not my Daddie Trayal. He ran his hands up the front of my nightgown and began to rub my nipples. His hard on was rubbing even harder between my legs and he began to pinch my nipples. "Ouuuuuw, Daddie Trayaldy, that hurts," I complained.

    "Shut up," he hissed at me. "You, you come out dressed like this and expect me not to notice?"

    "Daddie Trayaldy, I didn't mean to," I said, but I wasn't sure what I was apologizing about. "Do you want me to change?"

    "Yes, take your clothes off," he growled, as he lifted my nightgown over my head and pulled down my panties.

    Standing in front of him naked, I put my arms across my chest. I was looking down. I was frightened and embarrassed.

    "Put your hands down," he said in that growling voice I never heard before. "Show Daddie Trayaldy your little titties, baby," he grunted. He took my hands in his and put them under my titties and made me push them up, to make them look bigger. "That's it, now hold them that way," he said as he leaned over and began to suck on my little nipples.

    He put his big hand between my legs, forcing my feet apart. His other hand went around to my butt and he began to knead my butt cheeks. His fingers went up between my tender out pussy lips, sawing roughly back and forth while he sucked on my nipples. My head was spinning, feelings were running over me I never felt before. I felt like I was being nasty, that I , we, were doing something wrong. "Daddie Trayaldy, uuhhhhh," I moaned as he continued to fondle my butt, suck my titties and rub my pussy.

    Tears started streaming down my face. I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to do. Did I really start something, and if I did, what did I start. What should I do to stop it, or do I have to finish it. If I have to finish it, what do I do to finish it. I felt trapped, not knowing what to do.

    "What's wrong?" Daddie Trayaldy asked with a stern voice. "You not enjoying yourself? You not having fun? You don't want Daddie Trayaldy touching you? You too good for Daddie Trayaldy? Is that it?"

    "No, no," I answered, choking back the tears.

    Squeezing his thick cock under his boxers, Daddie Trayal said, "Well, if you won't play along, I bet your sister will. I will just put you to bed and see if she wants to get up and play."

    I couldn't let that happen to Lori. "No Daddie Trayal," I said, "don't bother Lori. I will do want you want. Just tell me what you want me to do."

    Daddie Trayal breathed a big sigh of relief. He won and he knew it. He continued to fondle me for several minutes then sat down and pushed down on my head and shoulders. I was kneeling in front of him, between his legs, when he grabbed his cock in his hand and put it to my lips.

    "Open your mouth and put your tongue under the head. That's right. Now run your tongue up and down and around. Kiss the head, kiss up and down, that's it. Now open your mouth a little wider and take it in, and now suck on it. Lick and suck like a lollipop, let me hear you."

    Everything felt disgusting, but I tried to do as I was told. Finally he started breathing hard and he put his hand behind my head. "Open wider you little slut. Take my cock down your throat."

    I started to gag a little but he kept pushing. He stood up and pushed his cock down my throat as far as he could. He then put both hand behind my head and started fucking my mouth real fast.

    "That's it you little whore, take Daddie Trayaldy's cock all the way down your throat. What a good little cocksucker you are, you little slut," he grunted as he started to cum. I was totally surprised by the hot stream of thick cum that started shooting down my throat. I started gagging and spit up the first load. He bunched my hair up in a fist and drew back his other hand and said, "Swallow my load bitch or I will whip your ass so hard you will never sit down. Keep sucking and swallow it all."

    I was so scared I sucked and swallowed as fast as I could. When I felt his cock shoot a stream of cum I would suck on his cock as hard as I could so I could suck all the cum from his balls. I even went down and licked the cum that I spit up earlier. I was so scared.

    The second night I tried to go to bed at the same time as Lori, but Daddie Trayal came and got me anyway. He gave me a package and said, "Here are some nice things I bought for you. I want you to put them on and come into the living room."

    I took the package to the bathroom and saw that he had bought me a very skimpy pair of panties, white stockings, a garter belt, and white heels. It took me a little bit of time to figure out how to work the garter belt, and I could not stand up very well on the heels since they were so tall. I looked at myself in the mirror and noticed how the white panties and garter belt framed my butt which was upturned and sticking out from my body. There was nothing to put on my top.

    As I walked out to the living room he was in his chair, naked, with his stiff cock in his fist.

    "Damn you make a nice little whore. I got a lot of friends that would like to fuck you right now. How would you like that. How would you like to fuck a bunch of horny guys every night?"

    "No Daddie Trayaldy, I wouldn't," I replied softly.

    "No? Well, if you don't want them fucking you then you better come up here and fuck me and make it good," he said with a laugh.

    He had me kneel in front of him again and suck his cock until he came down my throat. It didn't take him very long this time, and his cock remained hard when I was done. This time when I was finished he had me stand with my back to him, my feet apart, and had me bend at the waist and hold on to my ankles. He started kissing around my butt, and licking my pussy and my butt hole. He was also squeezing my butt cheeks and kept saying how slutty I looked in the white stockings and heels. I started getting dizzy from bending over like that, and probably also from him licking my pussy.

    "Feels good doesn't it, you little whore. I could see how wet you were getting. I never did see a slut get so wet in my life so quick," he said.

    I felt really bad, like maybe I was a slut. Maybe I was enjoying something I shouldn't. He then picked me up and put me down on the couch. He started kissing me on the mouth and using his tongue while he massaged my titties and then began to pull on my hard little nipples. Pain and pleasure swept over me, one after the other, as he would twist and pull on my young nipples. I opened me eyes and then felt him on top of me. My panties were gone, my legs were spread apart, my feet were on his shoulders, and he was cupping my butt cheeks again with his hands.

    "I'm going to fuck you real good since this is your first time. All you have to do is lay back and enjoy it. After this though, I will expect you to be more involved, do more than just lay back and take it," he said.

    He was lifting under my butt and kind of pulling me towards him when I felt a searing pain between my legs. Before I could scream he covered my mouth with his. I screamed into his mouth as I felt his massive cock ram into my virgin pussy. I felt like I was being split in two, like I was being impaled on a telephone pole.

    I felt like I was full, a tremendous pressure between my legs, as Daddie Trayal started moving in and out. I could hear a faint squishing sound. The discomfort eased. He started going in deeper, and I felt him hit something. Another pressure started to build as he pounded over and over against my body. He wanted in and something was not letting him in. I held on tightly and moaned with each thrust.

    "What a special treat, to fuck a really tight virgin," he said smiling. He repositioned himself, gathering up on his knees, pulling again on my butt cheeks, and I knew something was about to happen. With a massive push he tore through my maidenhead and I bit into his shoulder, screaming as loud as I could into his flesh. Suddenly his cock started sliding, unopposed this time, deep into my body. I let out a deep moan as this time I knew I was truly filled up.

    "Oh God you're so tight," he moaned. He started sawing in and out of my pussy. His pace quickened, his breathing became raspy, his entire body began to shudder. I then felt his cock twitch deep inside of me and I felt his hot, almost scalding rush of cum hitting the walls of my pussy. Over and over again I felt him pump his cum into my pussy. Each time he grunted a little more than the last. When he finished he pulled out and hovered over me, his huge cock beginning to droop, smeared with cum, pussy juice, and some blood. It was as if he was holding a trophy or something in front of me.

    The next night he gave me a pair of black panties and stockings to wear. I modeled them for him while again a bent over and he probed, kissed and licked my pussy and butt. This time he turned me around to face him as he sat on the couch, naked.

    "Here, slut, sit on my cock and fuck me. You know how to do it now, fuck me good or I will bring over my friends to fuck you real good."

    As I got on the couch and straddled him, I reached down to grab his cock with one hand and rubbed my pussy with my other hand. He had licked me enough that I had started getting wet. As I pulled my outer lips apart and began to position his cockhead, he started sucking on my titties.

    "Augghhhh," I moaned as he pulled a nipple with his teeth. He was pinching and rolling my other nipple with his hand, which hurt almost as bad.

    "Don't stop you little whore," Daddie Trayal warned. "If you think that hurt wait until you have 3 or 4 men all pulling and pinching and fucking you at once. You don't know what pain is yet."

    I put his cock at the entrance to my pussy and pushed down as hard as I could. "Nggggnnnn, aaauggghhhh," I screamed as his thick cock pierced my tender pussy. His head was thrown back and his mouth wide open so I figured he liked what I had done. I put my hands on the top of his shoulders and rode him as hard as I could. I lifted up and fell down. I rocked up and back. I squeezed with my pussy muscles as hard as I could.

    I buried his cock in me as far as it would go, and held it there. I leaned forward and whispered in his ear, "Fuck me Daddie Trayaldy, fuck your little whore slut."

    As soon as I said those words he grabbed my butt cheeks and started cumming. Over and over again he squeezed my butt and shot a rope of cum into my womb. We stayed like that until his cock went limp and slid out of my pussy. I whispered again, "Daddie Trayaldy, don't let anyone else fuck me."

    He looked at me and said, "There is one more thing you have to do, one more thing tomorrow night."

    The next evening Daddie Trayaldy started spreading vaseline on my butthole when I bent over in front of him. He kept running his finger up my butt and telling me to relax. He had me lie face down on the couch, with pillows under my stomach. He positioned me with my butt sticking straight up in the air. I was scared.

    After probing and pulling around on my butt hole with his finger, he got on top of me and pressed his cock against my rear opening.

    "Oh no, please Daddie Trayaldy, not that," I pleaded.

    Daddie Trayaldy reached back and with a full swing of his open hand hit me on my butt. First one cheek, then another. My butt was stinging and I cried out in my pillow. Each time he hit me he pressed his cock a little harder at my back opening.

    "Yeah you little slut," he said, "I like it nice and tight. Tense up real good for me and I will split your ass wide open."

    "Auugghhh," I yelled as I felt his cockhead pass through my butt opening. Once opened it seemed his cock kept sliding in, further and further. He was fully buried in my bowels, it felt like his cock was in my stomach. I felt like some kind of animal being pinned to the ground. I couldn't move my body, just my arms and legs.

    "I can't believe how tight your little shit hole is," he commented. "I have friends who would kill to stick their cock up your tight little ass." He then began to pound his cock in and out without let up, without mercy. Each time I grunted a little louder than the time before until he shot a load of cum up my butt, deep into my bowels.

    After that he had me in a lot of different positions. He never brought any friends over, but threatened me with that a lot. His favorite position was having me bent over at the waist holding my ankles. Usually I had to hold on to a table, wall, or something when he fucked me like that. Sometimes he would go in my pussy, sometimes my butt, sometimes both.

  28. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    DO NOT INSULT THE PURVEYOR OF CAMEL LYRICS!!!
    If you do not enjoy the toe-haiku keep your 15 year old bitchy kike mouth shut! Go back to your potato pancakes and matsoh ball soup you torah toting beanie clad beard sporting hebe. It's jews like you that give geniuses like hitler fuel for the fire. your greasy jew fat staining the floors of my grandparents ovens. At least the children smelled less when they burnt! It's a pity that they lost all the gold teeth they took from you dollar grubbing hymies. its also a pity that our economy is backed by jew bankers that conspire terrorist activities against its own people.. isnt it funny to imagine that the trade center tradgedy was engineed by jews in order to give us a reason to attack the arabs? Because we would never be able to do that without the support of other countries, so what better way to do it and make it believeable by killing a few thousand MORE jews, and some brits too? toss in a couple arabs to make it fair, and a whole bunch of rescue workers to gain the popular vote, and bingo, WAR ON TERRORISM! You and that dumb fucking choir boy tevis, who had his nuts cut off early so his voice wouldnt change.. you all need to fuck off and die. Not only can you not recognize good computer hardware, or software for that matter, when you see it, you also have the inability to recognize genius in literature. just because its not on the same level as dostoyevsky, tolstoy, twain, thoreau, jefferson, or madison. you commie fuck! throw away your keyboard, go to sleep, and stop posting idocy! stop the stupidity!! stop giving us food for troll! stop stop stop!!! maybe rob malda should just remove the apple forum all together, after all the load on his server must be almost unbearable from all the idiots posting, much less the replies to those idiotic posts.

    good night.
    i waste no more time on your fucking morons.

  29. Only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the most common, but it's far from the only format available.

    1. Re:Only? by galaxy300 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It certainly depends on the user and what they happen to have installed on their machine. I know plenty of people who hardly know what a .zip file is, let alone what other compression formats are available. If they're using XP then they've got ZIP built right into the system, so that's probably what they're using.

  30. Sure! by Hi+Larry! · · Score: 1

    I don't believe them, they just want us to update to 7.0 so they can put us adds about there great piece of shit. OS X makes it so fun to use tar and bzip2!

  31. Re:What about Stuffit Deluxe? I have to upgrade no by tbmaddux · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Imagine what would happen if MS stopped fixing security holes in Windows 2000 all of a sudden when Windows XP came out? They would be shot in the street!
    You mean like when they stopped fixing holes in Office 97?

    I feel your pain.

    --
    Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
  32. Info-zip is already installed by gidds · · Score: 2, Interesting
    surf over to Info-zip's site to download the source or binary.

    Why bother, when it's already installed as part of Mac OS X? There's no manpage, but the executable is /usr/bin/zip (and /usr/bin/unzip). The 10.2.1 version says:

    Copyright (C) 1990-1996 Mark Adler, Richard B. Wales, Jean-loup Gailly Onno van der Linden and Kai Uwe Rommel. Type 'zip -L' for the software License.
    This is Zip 2.1 (April 27th 1996), by Info-ZIP.
    ...
    Compiled with gcc Apple cpp-precomp 6.14 for Unix (Apple Mac OS X) on 07/14/02.

    --

    Ceterum censeo subscriptionem esse delendam.

  33. Convenient isn't it by Namaste · · Score: 1

    Kind of convenient that they announce a flaw in an old product soon after the release of a chargeable upgrade

  34. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by MoneyT · · Score: 2

    Now you've done it. He's going to stalk you all over slashdot like he stalks me.

    --
    T Money
    World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
  35. Re:What about Stuffit Deluxe? I have to upgrade no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need to upgrade all 50 of your Stuffit deluxe apps. Just download the 7.0 expander, which is FREE, and be sure to use that when decompressing .zip files. You can still use Stuffit Deluxe 6.5's compression to your hearts content, or decompression of .sit files.

    Geez

  36. Re:If you were my son, fuckface tevis the bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    hi fuckface tevis. you are such a flamebait troll. look at you, in the middle of all the troll threads. you think you are not a party to trolling, but you cause it. the very severity of your flaming sucktitude rips the fabric of space and time, sucking innocents into flaming you.

  37. Re: Ermm... tsarkon you butt fucking camel lick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    hi fuckface tevis. you are such a flamebait troll. look at you, in the middle of all the troll threads. you think you are not a party to trolling, but you cause it. the very severity of your flaming sucktitude rips the fabric of space and time, sucking innocents into flaming you.

  38. Re:Stuffit Exploits (HFSTAR) by Namaste · · Score: 1

    Here is a version of gnutar that handles resource forks.

  39. Re:What about Stuffit Deluxe? I have to upgrade no by GlassHeart · · Score: 1
    You mean like when they stopped fixing holes in Office 97?

    According to their website, StuffIt 6.5 was first shipped in September 2001. Office 97 was shipped, well, around 1997. Big difference.

  40. Stuffit? Bah by lemkebeth · · Score: 1

    Okay, besides the pointlessness of bothering, you can only get Stuffit Expander now as part of Stuffit Standard Edition.

    You can't get Expander as a separate download.

    Aladdin is making up the known trojans claim, there aren't any besides, anything like that would have to be downloaded first to begin with.

    Me? I just use gzip unless someone insists on posting something in .sit format as gzip compression is actually better anyway.

    There is also a GuI app called OpenUp that is open source but, can't open .sit files.