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Geoprofiling Moves Into The Limelight

circletimessquare writes "Interesting and timely. A short piece at CNN talks about the software helping to track down the sniper currently terrorizing the Washington DC area. It was the doctoral thesis of a cop, Kim Rossmo, who developed it while walking the beat in Vancouver and reading about the hunting patterns of African lions. Googling, I found an older but deeper piece which mentions more of the tech behind the software, called Rigel. That led me to the website of ECRI, the company that makes Rigel. More good tech there."

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  1. saw this on TLC by twiggy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was a great special on this software on TLC not that long ago. Basically, they were able to calculate the odds of the suspect living and/or acting in a certain area based on where the crimes were, etc.

    They ended up catching the killer, and he was a cop!

    From discussions I'm seeing about these shootings, it may very well be a cop or someone in the armed forces. The ballistics of the gun/ammo being used just don't fit right since people are saying they don't hear the shots, or don't hear very loud shots, so people are theorizing that there's special subsonic rounds being used to minimize noise - not easy to find with these types of bullets, from what I gather.. But I dont' know a lot about guns, so.. yeah...

    Anyhow if I remember the name of the TLC special I'll post it here, it was on recently enough that it will probably be on again soon.

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    1. Re:saw this on TLC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Subsonic bullets would negate the entire reason for the .223, namely the extra powder charge. The point of the rifle bullet is to fly very fast. Most likely they didn't hear loud shots because the urban environment is actually very noisy.

    2. Re:saw this on TLC by spoonist · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is possible to put a suppressor on a .223 rifle. This would make it much harder to identify, by sound, from where the shot originated. BTW, you don't have to "find" subsonic .223 rounds, you can just reload.

    3. Re:saw this on TLC by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is no such thing as a subsonic .223 round, but not because of the reason you gave. The long .223 case means that if you lessen the charge any (which is what is done to produce subsonic ammo) then the powder can move around in the case, thus causing problems iwth ignition and firing. There is a solution, which uses a necked down .338 case which is shorter, but that's further offtopic. Also, making a subsonic .223 round does NOT negate its purpose, as then you have a subsonic projectile that still has good armor piercing ballistics (as opposed to a subsonic 9mm or .45 round, which would literally bounce off body armor)

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    4. Re:saw this on TLC by Happy+go+Lucky · · Score: 5, Interesting
      From discussions I'm seeing about these shootings, it may very well be a cop or someone in the armed forces. The ballistics of the gun/ammo being used just don't fit right since people are saying they don't hear the shots, or don't hear very loud shots, so people are theorizing that there's special subsonic rounds being used to minimize noise - not easy to find with these types of bullets, from what I gather..

      Easy enough to make, though. It's not uncommon for hunters or competitive shooters to load their own ammunition at home. To make a slower bullet, just use less powder. (Okay, it's a tiny bit more complex than that, but you see the general idea.)

      Also, it's not hard to mistake the sound of a gunshot for something else, and especially not in an urban area. A month or so ago, I took a complaint of a guy whose truck had been shot. With some sort of .30-caliber solid-construction bullet, original weight above 200 grains, and probably faster than 2700 feet per second from the muzzle based upon the deformation. If you don't know what that means, that's a damn loud round. I try and shoot an elk with a round like that every year, and thank god for Peltor earmuffs. Anyway, almost nobody in the neighborhood remembers a gunshot. However, everybody remembers a car backfiring fairly loudly. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't believe in them.

      So, you see where I'm going with this? It's easy to mistake the sound of a gunshot for something else if you don't know much about them. I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that people in an area where private firearm ownership is almost nonexistant (like much of the DC area) may not know what they did or didn't hear.

    5. Re:saw this on TLC by Happy+go+Lucky · · Score: 3, Insightful
      D'oh! Didn't think about reloading. I've never done it, though it would probably save me some $$ in the long run. And are those silencers available to the general public or are they law enforcement only?

      Federally, they're very tightly restricted under the 1934 National Firearms Act. However, it is theoretically possible for private citizens to own them.

      State laws may be more restrictive. I'm willing to bet that the state/local laws in DC and Maryland are a LOT more restrictive.

      Someone with evil intent can probably make one easily enough. Most of us already have one on our cars: What do you think mufflers do?

  2. If only life was like UT2003... by davidstrauss · · Score: 5, Funny

    we'd have a trail from every shot of the sniper.

  3. Ruining the Model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doesn't awareness of the geoprofiling model by the suspect make the model less accurate, or is there something built into it that takes this into account?

    1. Re:Ruining the Model by bjohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. This is based on the theory that most criminals (this technique is most often used with property crimes like burglary or armed robbery) like to work in familiar territory.

      Forcing them into unfamiliar territory to screw up the profiling them loses them the advantages of commiting crimes on known ground and makes it more likely they'll be seen/caught.

    2. Re:Ruining the Model by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll paraphrase an expert I saw on tv (god, I feel ignorant saying that!): "There is a balance between the criminal's desire to remain anonymous and his desire to operate in his comfort zone." A knowledgeable criminal may try to "game" the profile, but it seems to me that he would still need to operate within his comfort zone. If he strays too far away, that causes other problems for him: he's an outsider, he generates hotel bills, he misses work, he's away from his family, etc.

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  4. media and the software by SeanWithoutPants · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd be somewhat curious if letting the media know that they're currently using this technique to catch the sniper is a good thing. It seems like this guy (or gal) loves the media attention and would certainly hear of this-although given how many times he has shot people in the last few days, I'd imagine it would still be very helpful. Would "security through obscurity" be a good thing here?

    1. Re:media and the software by jnik · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Would "security through obscurity" be a good thing here?
      Questionable. As with any technique designed to discover patterns in human nature, the focus already is on the aggregate, on how people tend to behave. There's going to be deviation no matter what. A good model accounts for this. A good detective understands the nature of the model and its limitations.

      Take a look at the second article: Rossmo puts emphasis on certain locations based on his psychological assumptions about the quarry. At the same time, he discards or discounts other locations that he believes might skew his findings. This is just one tool in his arsenal: an important one, but other tools feed data in and yet others interpret what comes out. Sounds like the way to go.

  5. Will it work when everybody knows... by f97tosc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Clearly the principles of the software are very sound - and the product has been used successfully in the past.

    However, now media is writing extensively about the software and the algorithms involved. A shrewd killer could use such information. He could think again about where to act, perhaps selecting sites at random, or selectively so that they would mislead the program.

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  6. It's a fine theory... by cryptochrome · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but don't brag about it until/unless it helps you crack the case.

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    1. Re: It's a fine theory... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful


      > but don't brag about it until/unless it helps you crack the case.

      Supposedly in another recent case it yeilded a point across the street from the perpetrator's residence.

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  7. Re:This is scary by bjohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually this isn't new, nore is it all that freaking scary.

    It's a technique that's been in use for a long long time by police departments, only with a less quantitative aspect. But they dind't call it 'geographic profiling' they called it 'sticking pushpins into the map'...

    They're not *tracking* people, they're entering crime data into a GIS.

  8. The pattern stops here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It all sounds good, but when i read this "Currently, Rigel runs only on a Sun Microsystems UltraSparc workstation. But ECRI is reprogramming it for use on Windows NT workstations and servers".

    It all lost it's beauty.

    You're running low on virtual memory, pick a smaller town, fewer crimes or reboot yur machine

  9. A Computerized Profiling technology I'll Support by doc_brown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There has been alot of talk and show these days about all those new computerized profiling technologies. (Face recoginition, et al.)

    Finally, here is one that I think is right on the money.

    Here is one that makes the computer just another tool in the policeman's tool box. This is in sharp contrast to present trends. For now the computer is helping solve the crimes and prevent future crimes, but it's not laying the blame on people who have yet to commit a crime.

    I know this is mostly due to how the creator uses his experience, but (IMHO) that's what makes this soo nice.

  10. More links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  11. Not subsonic with a .223 by typical+geek · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a real small bullet, about as big as a .22 we all grew up with. In order for it to be lethal, it needs to be shot at about 1000 mps (Mach 3 ish).

    It's probably a disaffected, over intellectual loner in high school or college with an M-14 or a bolt action .223 hunting rifle with a scope, who's taking out his feeling of inadequacy and powerlessness against random people. Needless to say, he's never been laid, either.

    Hmm, I just described half of Slashdot. I hope you have your alibis

    1. Re:Not subsonic with a .223 by Hieronymous+Cowherd · · Score: 3, Informative

      M-14's not .223, it's 7.62 NATO (.308 Winchester). I think you may be thinking of M-16, which does fire 5.56 NATO. The Mini-14 (which you also might have confused the M-14 with) is also a .223 rifle, but not nearly as accurate as a sniper would need. I'd vote for some variant of Remington 700, for accuracy's sake. However, an accurized AR-pattern rifle might well do the job. Were this sniper using an M-14, there'd likely not be the survivor that there is - the 7.62 round is much more lethal.

    2. Re:Not subsonic with a .223 by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nonono, this is clearly the work of some godless hippie liberal who hates America. Clearly the only solution is to invade Iraq!

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  12. But what if the sniper has the software too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could he profile himself and then know where NOT to go to find his next victims?

  13. Re:Sound cool but by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    problem is true random ness is not possable. He/she could be following a pattern without being aware of it. And if the sniper is trying to be random probably in doing so is causing a pattern. Humans are way to predictable over a period of time.

    pretty much any random way you could come up with of doing what he is doing could leave a pattern that someone would see.

    though with that said even when you have a pattern going it's still really hard to refine to being able to knock on his door or no his next move.

  14. Hmmm, maybe it was seeing Red Dragon by sielwolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But I've been thinking of Lecter's advice to Clarice in Silence of the Lambs: this looks a little too random.

    Ever since I first saw the movie I've always wondered how often that is the case: serial criminals who commit the first crime locally, realize it, and then make a point of trying to be "random".

    This entire scenario it doesn't look like the case: the first and fifth shooting were very close together and the entire field of action seems to be very localized. But still these sort of things always make me think of that quote. Guess because it was so imporant in the movie.

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  15. sniper anagrams by recalci · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The DC sniper left a "Death" tarot card with the words:

    "Dear Policeman, I am God"

    written on it.

    Some anagrams for "dear policeman i am god"

    go and implode America
    Laden doom pig America
    impaled good American
    magic doomed airplane
    megalomaniac drop die
    an imperial dogma code
    good, an epidemic alarm

    Some anagrams for "dear policeman i am god death"

    imperial hated and good came
    imperial death and good came
    I'm a degraded emotional chap
    I'm delegated macho paranoid
    homicidal dead eager top man
    Peter, a homicidal dead man go
    dead homicidal game not rape

  16. programs response by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's Mrs. White in the library with the revolver

  17. Better CNN article by mbrubeck · · Score: 3, Informative
    The Law section on CNN.com has a more detailed article which is also more accurate in most respects.

    Note: I work at ECRI, but I'm not speaking for my employer. I will answer basic questions in the comments here, though I can't always go into detail.

    1. Re:Better CNN article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please provide details about how the system works, and how a criminal could circumvent the profile to throw police off the track. I need this information ASAP.

  18. The "Deeper" Piece Seems to be Slashdotted: by Ribo99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    GEO-PROFILING: POTENT NEW POLICE TECHNIQUE
    Cracking the Toughest Serial Criminal Cases
    Dec. 31, 1998

    By Jim Krane

    SAN DIEGO (APBnews.com) -- Picture a small city in eastern Canada whose residents were rarely touched by violent crime. Then, startlingly, a serial rapist began attacking women, injecting a dose of fear into a normally tranquil community.

    By the time the assailant sexually assaulted his 11th victim, police were desperate. They compiled a list of 300 possible suspects and prepared to conduct expensive, laborious DNA tests on each one, hoping to match DNA residue taken from victims.

    Vancouver Police Detective Kim Rossmo
    That's when Det. Kim Rossmo got a call.

    Rossmo, a detective inspector with the Vancouver Police Department, developed an investigative technique called geographic profiling. Using geo-profiling, police try to trace a serial criminal to his home or workplace by computing distances with geographic clues he's left -- such as dead bodies, sites of attacks and other known locations the lawbreaker visited.

    Rossmo explained geographic profiling to attendees at the International Association of Crime Analysts here recently, giving criminal analysts a window into one of law enforcement's newest and least-known investigative techniques.

    Rossmo's methodology would come in handy on the serial rapist case and many others.

    Valuable search tool

    As part of his doctoral research at British Columbia's Simon Fraser University, Rossmo developed an algorithm -- a mathematical model of repeated calculations -- that targets serial criminals by the spatial patterns they produce.

    Since then, Rossmo's algorithm has been computerized, allowing it to make hundreds of thousands of calculations that pinpoint a criminal's hideout within a fraction of the crime site area.

    Priority: danger

    Rossmo most often gets a call when a serial criminal is on the loose. Since many agencies -- in Canada, the United States and Europe -- seek his services simultaneously, Rossmo said he gauges which community is most at risk.

    In the eastern Canadian sexual assault case -- Rossmo didn't want to divulge the location -- his geographic profile turned out to be remarkably accurate. With 300 suspects on their hands, the local police could only look forward to a lengthy period of laboratory testing.

    The red peaks in this image identify the probable location of an offender's residence in Vancouver, British Columbia.
    But Rossmo's geo-profiling technique helped the police get their man much more quickly. The Vancouver detective visited crime scenes, read reports, and talked to victims and investigators. He analyzed the data using his computerized algorithm and found a neighborhood hot spot to focus on.

    Seventh time's a charm

    Instead of hauling suspects in alphabetically by last name, police matched suspects' addresses against Rossmo's findings and tested those who lived nearest the hot spot's peak. The seventh suspect lawmen tested was a positive DNA match. Police arrested the man and cracked the case.

    "If they didn't have geographic profile prioritization, they might've started with Archer and ended with Young," Rossmo said.

    Lazy to a fault

    Despite its complicated mathematical calculations, geographic profiling is based on a simple theory. Criminologists say most humans -- criminals included -- are inherently lazy. Just as a person will shop in the grocery store nearest his or her home, a predatory criminal usually picks his victims in familiar areas -- except for a small buffer zone around his home, says Rossmo.

    Thus, when an arsonist sets a series of fires, police can estimate his whereabouts (usually a residence) by dumping the addresses of buildings burned into the computer and calculating the location most central to the crime scenes.

    Crime as topography

    In reality, Rossmo's crime-busting technique is more complex. He walks through crime scenes, conducts interviews and reads police reports. With years of investigative experience under his belt, Rossmo puts emphasis on certain locations based on his psychological assumptions about the quarry. At the same time, he discards or discounts other locations that he believes might skew his findings.

    Rossmo then keys his data into the computer. The machine converts street addresses into latitudinal and longitudinal coordinates and creates a three-dimensional "jeopardy surface" or topographical model of the data. The jeopardy surface looks like a mountain range, with colored bands of peaks and valleys that show where the addresses converge -- the peaks -- and where they don't -- the valleys.

    When Rossmo superimposes the jeopardy surface onto a street grid, the result isn't an exact map to the killer's house, but it's something close to it.

    Method used in 80 cases

    Since 1990, Rossmo has used his geo-profiling technique in more than 80 cases, representing 1,800 crime locations. He believes his work helped crack about half of those cases.

    But Rossmo doesn't measure his success only by cases cleared. He's interested in geographic accuracy.

    In cases where an arrest has been made, Rossmo's been able to estimate the location of the offender's home within the top five percent of the search area. That means, if police believe the offender lives somewhere within a 10-square-mile area, Rossmo can tell investigators which half-square-mile section to search.

    In some cases, he's more accurate. In the Canadian rapist investigation described above, Rossmo's suspect lived within the first 2.2 percent of the area searched.

    The more a criminal strikes, the more clues Rossmo can enter into his computer. Theoretically, that makes his predictions more accurate. But Rossmo's computer doesn't spit out a name and address. After the computer does its thing, Rossmo writes a report suggesting strategies for capture.

    "It's the investigator that solves the case. Our role is to support him or her," Rossmo said.

    Cops, meet Rigel

    Rossmo's algorithm has been incorporated into a software program called Rigel, manufactured by the Vancouver firm Environmental Criminology Research Inc. (ECRI). Rossmo is a member of ECRI's board of directors and acts as the company's chief scientist.

    Currently, Rigel runs only on a Sun Microsystems UltraSparc workstation. But ECRI is reprogramming it for use on Windows NT workstations and servers.

    The software isn't cheap -- ECRI president Barry Dalziel priced a copy at $70,000, which includes some training and help with installation.

    Rigel, emphasized Dalziel, isn't perfect. For best results, it should be used by a police investigator or crime analyst who undergoes a year of training, some of it under Rossmo's personal tutelage.

    "If it sends them off on a wild goose chase, police investigators aren't likely to use the system again," said Dalziel.

    It's a Canadian thing

    Besides Rossmo's Vancouver Police, two other agencies have been trained in geographic profiling with Rigel: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Canada's national police force, and the Ontario Provincial Police. Rossmo said the British National Crime Faculty, another national law enforcement agency, will be certified in 1999.

    No U.S. law enforcement agencies are on Rossmo's training list -- even though he's been invited to help crack dozens of cases in the States.

    The real Robocop

    If its geo-profiling uses weren't enough, Dalziel said investigators will be able to use a new version of Rigel to predict a serial criminal's next crimes, including dates and crime locations.

    And cops will be able to predict and monitor the likely "hunting grounds" of paroled sex offenders by plotting past crime data and behavioral traits into Rigel, said Dalziel.

    "Say there were crimes in that area that matched [a parolee's] M.O., his name would pop up," Dalziel said.

    Jim Krane is APB News staff writer (jimk@apbnews.com).

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  19. You mean Mini14 by Wee · · Score: 5, Interesting
    That's a real small bullet, about as big as a .22 we all grew up with. In order for it to be lethal, it needs to be shot at about 1000 mps (Mach 3 ish).

    For anyone curious, the .223 is about the same diameter as a .22 LR, but there the similarity ends. The .223 weighs in between 50 and 64 grains and travels at 2700-3300 fps. I think the .223 NATO round is 55 grains and moves at like 3100 fps. A .22 LR is 40 grains and travels at around 1050 fps. I might be a little off in my numbers, so don't quote me. The two are night and day as far as lethality and ballistics go, however.

    It's probably a disaffected, over intellectual loner in high school or college with an M-14 or a bolt action .223 hunting rifle with a scope, who's taking out his feeling of inadequacy and powerlessness against random people. Needless to say, he's never been laid, either.

    The M14 is .308, not .223. You mean a Mini14.

    But I get your point. Feet first into the mulcher is too good a fate for this ass clown. Shooting old men and children and women. In the back. I'm having a hard time coming up with suitable retribution...

    -B

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    1. Re: You mean Mini14 by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting


      > Feet first into the mulcher is too good a fate for this ass clown. Shooting old men and children and women. In the back. I'm having a hard time coming up with suitable retribution...

      I'd go for ordinary imprisonment. Sure, this and lots of other crimes merit worse, but unfortunately our "justice" system is actually a "conviction" system, and doesn't appear to be batting too high an average on hanging the right guy.

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    2. Re:You mean Mini14 by scott1853 · · Score: 5, Funny


      3100 fps *drool*

      Need... new... video... card... 8P

    3. Re:You mean Mini14 by Hieronymous+Cowherd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, yes, they are, by those of us who shoot competitively. The silly '92 gun ban made several inexpensive rifles used to get started in competitive shooting into high-priced collectors' items.

      Please define "high powered sniper rifle". Differentiate from "hunting rifle" or "varmint rifle" or "target shooting rifle". Please be very specific.

      If you've noticed how badly-written laws about technology are, they've got nothing on the labyrinthine morass of laws that cover firearms ownership.

    4. Re:You mean Mini14 by kubrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shooting old men and children and women.

      Something I've wondered in this case... why is it worse to shoot "old men and women and children" than it is to shoot anyone else? Are 35-year-old men some sort of second-class citizen, not worthy of sorrow? Sure, they may be more able to defend themselves in hand-to-hand combat, but that's not going to do them a lot of good when a sniper shoots them in the middle of the suburbs...

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    5. Re:You mean Mini14 by EricTheMad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think the .223 NATO round is 55 grains and moves at like 3100 fps. That's the old round. The one that is currently in use is 62 grains. The 55 grain round spins when it enters the target. This increases the lethality of the round. The 7 grain increase was made to cut down on the spin. The idea being to wound the target instead of kill. While at first glance it may seem like a bad idea, it actually makes a lot of sense. It is, as Baldric would say, "a cunning plan". The theory behind it is this: If you kill the target, you've removed one soldier from the battle. But if you only wound your target, you've taken at least two people out of the battle. Your target and his buddy, who now has to take care of him.

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    6. Re:You mean Mini14 by kubrick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the fact seems to be that our culture-- maybe all cultures for all I know-- places a higher value on the lives of the very young, the very old, and women than on the lives of adult men.

      I can understand that... I just noticed this when the police chief said that shooting children was "crossing over the line". I'd like to think that I'm on the same side of the line as the children, i.e. that shooting at me is unacceptable. (I don't live in the US... maybe common-or-garden public shootings occur often enough over there that this is no longer a reasonable expectation?)

      35-year-old white man

      I wasn't talking about colour here -- that would fall into that standard pro/anti-reverse discrimination line of argument, and I'm more interested in discussing people's ingrained notions of degrees of fairness/unfairness.

      The average serial killer profile in the US is often white middle-class male, isn't it? Are there any useful statistics on this?

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  20. Kim Rossmo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Kim Rossmo was also one of the first to suggest vancouver had a serial killer [robert pickton,pig farmer],which the VPD dissmissed promptly.The VPD also drummed Rossmo out via the old boys network because of interdept politics/powerplays.

  21. Re:Why not a search engine? by moertle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps its because security cameras aren't as pervasive as everyone likes to think they are.

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  22. Re:This is scary by puppetman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, geoprofiling narrows it down to a few blocks.

    Pushing stickpins into a map rarely allows such insight.

  23. How effective are probability toosl on anomalies? by Ted_Green · · Score: 3, Insightful


    When one has already shown them self to be a anomaly how effective is any given method of prediction/profiling?

    Let's face it, you don't go killing people as a habit. Any results from a given "profile" are not the best answer, they are merely a suggested solution to a given set of criteria, some of which we've yet to know.
    If the person meets the criteria of a given profile, then yes, they are more likely to be in X place or be X person.

    But we *must* keep in mind people can do other than what they would be expected to, even if we know nearly everything about them. And if they've already broken the social and moral bounds of killing their fellow man, seemingly without cause I'd say then that they are even less likely to fit a given profile.

    True, they are likely to meet some criteria and be "standardized" in that aspect, but we can never know which criteria are the ones that fit their profile.
    With that said we can *never* rely on just one method for a single case. We need to use many methods, often contradictory, in the hopes that one of those profiles is the correct one.
    In this kind of case over confidence in our methods literally becomes a killer.

    *shrug* look at people like the Uni-Bomber. If I recall correctly, the only reason he was eventually found was because his brother turned him in after recognizing his style of witting reading the manifesto.

    Sorry if this isn't more eloquent. This case is actually pretty close to home for me (both geographically speaking and emotionally.) People who go out of their way to try and kill children... I really want this person gone.

  24. He's just very far away by Wee · · Score: 3, Informative
    I thought he was using a .308, not a .223, but the point is the same: He was probably very far away, not using subsonic ammo. .223s move really fast (~3200fps). Making them subsonic makes them ineffective (since they don't have a lot of mass, then need a lot of velocity). I don't think they even make subsonic .223 rounds. He might be using a silencer, but again, this is only slightly practical since it slows the bullet down somewhat, and can affect accuracy. You'd have to get closer to the target either way. I don't know if you'd have to get so close that you'd be louder than if you simply stayed very far away and used normal rounds. Even a subsonic round, or one coming out of a silenced weapon makes a noise (I've shot both, but not together; and they were pistol rounds, not rifle rounds, but still...).

    No, I think he's just got a lot of "stuff" around him (grass, bushes, etc) and is pretty far off. Cities are loud places, much more so than out in the woods. You'd be very surprised how quiet even a big hunting rifle is from a couple hundred yards off. And sound can echo off things fairly effectively in a city (although I've never shot a gun in a city, I've shot quite a few of them in the country, so I'm partially guessing here). If the victim was hit a second or two before the shot was heard, that confuses things even more. You'd pretty much have to see the impact to know where it came from.

    Whatever he's using, I can't think of a fate bad enough for this guy. There's a special place in Hell for those who shoot women and children in the back. I just hope he's found soon.

    -B

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  25. Ph.D. in Criminology by mbrubeck · · Score: 5, Informative
    just curious, but what did Kim Rossimo get his Phd in?

    Kim Rossmo got his Ph.D. in criminology at SFU. The ideas in his thesis weren't just sudden inspiration -- they came from his many years as a police detective working on investigations, and from rigorous academic study and research.

  26. Some background on this guy.... by puppetman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Vancouver, where Kim Rossmo got his Ph.d and started his geoprofiling.

    He was very successful, and it led to his rapid advancement in the Vancouver Police Department. But like most police departments, it's still old-boys, and alot of them resented an educated individual rising through the ranks so quickly.

    Finally, they told him they weren't extending his contract when he was promoted too far. He sued. During the trial, the senior VPD members were made to look like fools for lying under oath.

    One of the interesting things that came out was that he suspected (back in June, 2001) that a serial killer was involved in the disappearance of 20 to 30 Vancouver women. Well, he was right. The Vancouver police are conducting a huge investigation at a pig farm in the Vancouver area, and Robert William Pickton is now Canada's most prolific known serial killer with 16 or so charges in the works, and more pending as they find more DNA at the farm.

    I don't know much about the technology (or psychology) involved, but I do know that when he applied his software to some of Canada's other serial killers (Paul Bernardo, Cliffard Olsen, etc) his software picked a 4-block area which included the killer's home. It was also used to catch a killer in Abbotsford.

    Thanks to a bunch of fat old men who's ego has extended past their intelligence, Vancouver has lost what appears to be a top-rate talent.

  27. Reaching, aren't we? by Inoshiro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know it's human nature to find patterns in random data, but this seems just a wee bit far fetched to me.

    Chances are s/he just wanted to say that s/he's god, and because of that has power over life and death (with no way for them to stop s/he).

    Sometimes a nutjob is just a nutjob.

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    1. Re:Reaching, aren't we? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you ever watched a movie? The bad guy always taunts the hero with an anagram.

      -B

  28. How this works by rhymez0r · · Score: 3, Informative

    How does this work? Alittle bit about geographic profiling works. Essentially, what this software does is it assigns a weight to different attributes of a crime and based upon past crimes determines a probability that the crime was commited near someone's home or an area they know. Throwing in some additional variables such as where an individual works, what route they probably take to work, etc, helps identify a person's individual daily path. Throw in a couple more factors like how far most criminals go from home to comit a crime - i.e. bank robberies tend to happen at banks individuals don't know, further from home, though rapes and murders happen in areas people are more comfortable - near an area they know - so that if discovered they know where to run (read: no unexpected dead end roads, good alleyways etc). Without getting into the whole theory of why this is - basically its because someone near their home doesn't stand out, they've probably been seen on the street before, maybe a neighbor knows them, they dont pose a threat - and dont' look out of place. Think about yourself - if you had to go walking around alleyways to stake out a location to dump a body or commit a rape, would you feel more comfortable (and look less shady) in an area you know, or some place out of town? So take some basic variables - what was the crime? when was the crime? Now, take the location of your crimes and cross-reference it with just the areas that would match given crimes. You end up with an area of probability that usually circular in nature around each crime... as these areas intersect, you get "blotches" of red, yellow, orange, etc.. That done, start to take other factors into consideration. You probably don't have a database with everyone's job, route to work, schedule, etc - what you probably do have is income ranges and general demographic information for specific areas. (Ok so I mentioned all this stuff about individuals above, I'm getting there). Using that data, you can modify the predictions futher. For example, something like a string of gang shootings... There are several areas (chicago for one, im sure you can think of one near you) that have affluent or up-and-coming areas near or next to ghettos. For chicagoans, think near west side vs. cabrini greens. For those who don't know, 2 bd 2ba condos in near west side go for about $300,000 to $500,000. Go about five or six blocks down the road though and you'll run into section-8 housing. I'm getting to a point here, bear with me. Having run your first analysis, you may find that there was a gang shooting in the "nicer" area, but it isn't really likely the shooter is from there... more likely than not, he's from the crummier side a few blocks away. Up to this point, the system knows nothing about Street Y vs Street X. Street Y might be a few blocks from Street X, but STreet Y might be primarily a six figure area... This information exists - if not directly, it can be found through housing prices and general crime level. Ok, so now what? We have a big red blob that winds around. Feed the system the data on population type, ethnicity (yup. Not too PC, but its there), income, average age... etc. With this new info, it starts to eliminate or decrease the red areas, building a smaller search section. Now I'd talked about all those individual factors - I'm finally getting to them. Remember those? Where does person A work? Person B? What does this person do? (Truckers and transients dump bodies far away, most employeed people dump them near work or home) .... etc. Usually in cases like these you have hundreds of leads. Everyone is followed up - some are easy to eliminate some don't really lead anywhere. Some sound like good potentials. Say you get a tip that joe shmoe did this crime. A quick check reveals he has no alibi for the time in question... does he fit the (geographic) profile? Obviously, you are going to go see joe shmoe. You ask some pretty basic questions that sound pretty boring... where do you work? You drive to work? Take the bus? What time do you leave? Do you eat lunch at work or outside? Simple stuff. You bring it up in conversation like nothing was - and for the most part it isn't anything. Pretty soon, you've got a list of 50 individuals who could all be involved. None of them have alibis, and you need to figure out who to focus on. Here we go again. Your now narrowed red area can take into account what these people do, where they work, how do they get to work, etc. Put those in and usually, you end up with 10 individuals who fit the geographic pattern. Those are the ones you go see again. And again. The rest? They don't fall off the radar, but you are no longer dedicating half your team to them. It's a game of probabilities. Now with your 10 "likelies", you've got the resources pointed in the right direction. Combine this with an FBI Profile of an individual and you've taken your 10 and shaved off 3 or 4. Now, you've got a handful of people to really focus on. At this point, you've got your search warrant if you want it - no alibi, meets the profile, fits the area, etc. The search warrants usually lead to a few more clues and narrow it down to one guy. Then you just got to figure out how to prove it was him. :) (reposted since I did it as anon by accident)

  29. Re:Sound cool but by ReconRich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what if the guy your trying to track is a complete nutcase
    Well, I'd say he's certainly some kind of nutcase. Examination of his method, however, reveals a few interesting things. First, he acts like a military sniper; that is he selects a target, takes 1 shot, and then (presumably) leaves his position, taking everything (like shell casings) with him. In other words, all the work is in preparing his site, and leaving it. The actual shooting doesn't take much time or effort. Second is his selection of target. It appears to be random, although shooting a kid going to school could be designed to cause fear. Its almost as if the target is secondary to the location; this nutball may be picking sites from which he thinks he can get someone, and then killing whoever shows up. If this is the case, this location software may be just the thing; on the other hand, his criteria for picking a site might not have anything to do with where he lives. Anyway, I hope they catch this bastard soon, and I really don't care how they do it.
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  30. Is it this nut job? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can someone with a reasonable knowledge of US geography tell me if the guy in this article is from around there? From my quick search it seems their both near/in Washington. If so it's an odd coincidence if nothing else..

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  31. Is it just me? by PerryMason · · Score: 4, Funny

    who developed it while walking the beat in Vancouver and reading about the hunting patterns of African lions

    Is it just me or does anyone else think they might have more chance of catching the guy if cops dont walk the beat reading a book!!

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  32. If I was an investigator.... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...I would select 10 of the USMC's and Army's best snipers, give them intel of the area, and let them hunt the sniper down. Skilled and experienced snipers should theorectically be able to deduce the most favorable target locations - geography-wise any ways. You let these 10 snipers scope out the most favorable areas in the DC and Maryland area and camp them.

    1. Re:If I was an investigator.... by Gruneun · · Score: 3

      snipers should theorectically be able to deduce the most favorable target locations

      Unless the sniper is choosing targets first and locations second.

      I would tend to agree the sniper is choosing the locations first (i.e. the guy who had just walked out of the store) but that still leaves millions of possibilities. Personally, I think his residence is centered somewhere inside the initial five shootings and he has slowly spiraled out around the DC area since the heightened media coverage.

      I also think that most people are overestimating the sniper's education. After all, I became proficient firing a .22 in Boy Scouts (and several higher calibers later in my teens) without the need for a high-power scope. Go an hour north or west of Montgomery County and you're in a typically more rural area where shotgun/rifle proficiency isn't so unusual.

  33. Bzzzt! So sorry, let's meet our next contestant... by PizzaFace · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OK, so I'm a sucker for an AC Troll, but I have to reply:

    I live near these shootings. As I type, I hear a police helicopter overhead. My kids complain about not having outdoor recess at school. When I run an errand, I scan the perimeter of the parking lot before getting out of the car, and then jog to the door. But at least I'm not paranoid!

    It's not a government plot to stir up anti-Iraq rage because (1) these daylight suburban shootings are too risky for a plot that would need to avoid detection at all costs; (2) the public has had no reason to think that the sniper attacks are related to terrorism, let alone to Iraq (unlike the anthrax attacks of last winter, which apparently were the work of a right-wing kook who wanted to look like an axis-of-evil terrorist); (3) the government has evil elements, but not THAT evil - not hunting rifles against children.

    Until less than 24 hours ago, I thought the sniper was probably an Al Qaeda terrorist. No, he hadn't made political demands, but neither did the September 11 hijackers. Far from causing me to favor war against Iraq, though, the prospect of terrorism reminded me that we'll face much more of it if we continue to make war in the Middle East (for no very good reason).

    Anyway, the tarot card seems to dispose of my terrorism theory, as well as your government-plot-posing-as-terrorism theory.

  34. I have worked on this by SheldonYoung · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was part of the team that implemented an early version of the Rigel software used by Kim Rossmo.

    At least in the early version, the algorithm was very simple. It was so simple you would have though it would never be useful. The beauty is that the algorithm doesn't need to pinpoint the house, just the neighborhood. It was much better to have a simple and easily provable algorithm than get another half a block of accuracy.

    The available databases to convert from street address to spatial locations sucked. To me a big part of the magic was converting addresses where a crime occured to a UTM coordinate.

    Most importantly, the magic of Rigel and Kim Rossmo is not the geoprofiling algorithms, but the marketting and public relations.

  35. Re:Shooter is accurate too by ReconRich · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is a good point, This guy hits reliably and doesn't freak out. My own take is that this is someone with military sniper training. What bothers me most about that is that sniping is hardly glamour killing; its boring, monotonous work. I have a very hard time understanding why someone who is killing people for some sick kind of emotional reward would do it this way. It is, however, probably the best way to get away with it. Then again, I worry about anybody who could get inside this guys head. He is very scary.

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  36. As opposed to what? by Wee · · Score: 3, Funny
    Just like those assault weapons Clinton banned, boy are those sure missed...like a hole in the head.

    I prefer Defense Weapons. Those Assault Weapons are just too dangerous.

    -B

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  37. Re:Shooter is accurate too by BWJones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is a good point, This guy hits reliably and doesn't freak out. My own take is that this is someone with military sniper training.

    I don't know about that as his kills have been in the chest AND head not to mention he has also wounded his last two victims, one of them by an abdominal shot. Formal training would provide for far better accuracy and the wounding of the last two might indicate he is getting more nervous.

    My guess is that this is an emotionally immature individual without any strong emotional attachments who has spent far too much time involved in fantasy and the movies and television. (thus the overly theatrical death card). This individual does not have military training as his shots have actually not been that accurate and he is not killing for the sake of killing. Rather he is doing it for the attention and the power trip that this is providing via the media. He will not have a professional job as his emotional immaturity will not allow for it and the crimes have happened when most professional jobs would be taking place. My guess would be this is a white male with some post high school education but no formally completed degree and he is most likely in his thirties with an emotionally adjusted age of twenty or so. He probably has an fascination with guns, but cannot afford the higher end so he is doing the killings with a commonly available shorter barrel AR-15 derivatives and has most likely spent some time on the internet at the various sniper websites that I am sure are out there possibly even contributing to the discussion groups. As such, that may be a good place to look for clues to anyone in the D.C. area. Additionally, this person most likely has spent some time at local shooting ranges (if there are any. Anyone?) and would most likely be known there. He is likely somewhat talkative to others about guns and technique, but somewhat unidimensional and unimaginitive in his interactions.

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  38. Happy that someone's listening to him by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Informative
    Although Rossmo developed his software in Vancouver, it didn't get a very good reception here. Rossmo used his software to conclude that 50+ women missing in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside weren't a coincidence. Unfortunately for him, the missing women were mostly low-rent prostitutes, and the Downton Eastside includes the postal code with the lowest average rent in Canada. It wasn't the mayor's highest priority by far.

    Vancouver's Mayor had more police manpower directed towards a high profile pot shop in the area than the case of the 50 missing women. Rossmo's thesis was pooh-poohed and he was demoted and effectively run off the force.

    The missing prostitute case continued to be a willfully low priority of the Vancouver police department until it recieved some publicy (including, I believe, being featured on "America's Most wanted" -- "Vancouver's a great place to be a serial killer -- cops cry '50 missing and all's well!'"

    A little over 2 years later, they've charged a guy with killing 15 of those missing women, and are searching for more remains on his pig farm.

    From what I've been able to piece together, he abused them, killed them, ran their bodies through a meat grinder (or branch grinder) and buried the ground-up bits on his farm.

    In the meantime, Downtown Eastside residents who were formerly unwilling to report mysterious disappearances of friends to the cops have now brought the number of missing women into the 60 person range.

    More info on the missing women case can be found on the CBC website.

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  39. Re:This is scary by MartinB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Shows what you know. The following is based on real analysis, carried out in the UK by a major supermarket.

    Basket analysis shows that for stores in Joe's area, there's a certain tendency for people to buy beer and nappies (diapers) together. This sparks some qualitative research, and they discover that it's largely because of men sent out to buy nappies also buy beer to reward themselves.

    So as an experiment, the supermarket's store manager places some high-profit brands of nappies next to the beer section. Sales go up, and not only that, more profitable sales go up. Store manager gets a big bonus.

    Next, the supermarket expands the test to neighbourhoods of similar socio-demographic profile to the first one. Sales of high-profit brands go up nationwide, because retail behaviour has a strong correlation to socio-demographic profile. That's the GIS bit - which doesn't actually need tying into individual consumers.

    Even if total sales of nappies don't increase, the sales of specific brands does. This gives the supermarket leverage with nappy manufacturers to extract fees for putting their brands next to the beer section. (Incidentally, many manufacturers don't know exactly how much they're shelling out in promotional costs... which can lead to big holes in their account - as happened to Bulmers recently - 3m+ spent without anyone noticing)

    So while total sales doesn't change, profit does, because there's additional profit from the high-margin brands, and additional shelving fees from the manufacturers.

    And that's just one category... most supermarkets have several thousand categories. Profit doesn't have to increase 100% year on year - double digit is fine, especially in the current climate.

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  40. Re:Shooter is accurate too by ReconRich · · Score: 3, Informative

    This individual does not have military training as his shots have actually not been that accurate and he is not killing for the sake of killing ... so he is doing the killings with a commonly available shorter barrel AR-15 derivatives

    If this guy is making long shots (500 yds +) with an AR-15, then he is as accurate as the most accurate military shooters (I am assuming no scope here). I know, I was a rifle coach/sniper in the USMC. The bullseye used at 500 yds by the USMC represents a man's head and chest. And not even the best shots hit it every time. To get better than that you have to use scopes and bipods, as well as weapons that are tighter than the standard issue M-16. By the way, I am assuming that this guy is making long shots because of the varying reports as to the sound of the shot.

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