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PalmSource Talks About PalmOS 6.0
stevejsmith writes "The Register has released an article regarding PalmSource speaking about their next OS, PalmOS 6.0. The Register says, 'Version 6.0 will be as dramatic a change for the platform as OS X was for Apple, or NT was for Microsoft...', that it will actually include some source code of BeOS, and that will support Microsoft's .NET platform, among other things."
While I like the graffiti on my Visor Deluxe, it would nice if someone could design an interface with all the graffiti symbols that could 'learn' what I mean, the way a speak recognition program does. I have sloppy writing and it's takes me too long to enter in all my assignments.
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So does this mean that my palm will useful for once. All that my palm does now is store address, and I don't have enough address to make this thing useful. I would like to see if this lives up to all the hype, or if it will be another Lindows.
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Version 6.0 will be as dramatic a change for the platform as OS X was for Apple, or NT was for Microsoft, and represents the culmination of work from the former Be team Palm acquired last year.
get a bunch of talented developers, innovations will follow.
On the other hand, i am interested to know if 6.0 would have any backward compatibility & run the apps i currently have(NT/OS X had little to no support for apps running on previous versions)
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I am looking forward to seeing/getting one of the new Palms with OS6. Handspring has plans for an XScale 600Mhz machine/ATI imageon and 128MB memory for launch with PalmOS6. I currently have a Toshivae740 which i like but WinCE is not my idea of a efficient OS, typical microsoft software, tries to be everything to everyone right out of the box. I like the idea of a "modular" palm6 so i can kill all the crap i dont like without the OS dieing. example=WinCE. If you delete the PocketExcel folder, the damn thing wont boot!
Palm will most likely have optimized builds for different chips used. the new ARM should have its own build, the old ARM, XScale, etc.
i have heard rumors that palm6 will also be using by sony in some upcomming set top boxes with 'tivo'like features, and with the BeOS technology we should get a nice smooth and quick interface with great media abilities.
At what point is this no longer a palm? Or will the next generation simply create a new paradigm for "palm"; the near actualization of the ultra slim pc idea that failed?
I love how they say "as innovative as OSX to the Mac and NT to the PC" insinuating the "innovation" for Microsoft was when NT came out years ago
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Pieces of BeOS, eh? I wonder if a truly portable mini-studio will finally be possible... I speak from experience when I say that you never know when the inspiration will hit you.
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It'd be great to be able to sample cool sounds on the move and mangle those into even cooler sounds during the bus trip home.
I'm sure I'd have lot's more good stuff on my home page with a thing like that
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Didn't Apple computer make these claims in the early/mid 90's?
Any idea as to how much of .NET will be supported? I would assume it to be the "Compact Framework" subset?
Isn't it true, though? OS X is as different from OS 9 as Windows NT was from Windows 3.whateveritwas. Windows 2000 and XP, however, have really only been incremental improvements on the original NT release. In fact, weren't Windows 2000 and XP referred to internally as NT 5.0 and NT 5.1, respectively? (I don't know that to be true, but I've heard it repeated often enough I'm starting to think it might be.)
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By the time they actually get around to delivering it, the goalposts will have changed (by the likes of Symbian and Microsoft) and Palm will have to play catch up again.
On a side note, releasing the Tungstun W (phone one) with OS 4 was a monumentally stupid thing to do. If they're going to commit to OS 5, then they should do immediately - not release two new phones with one running the old OS.
Go to OS 5. Don't look back. Encourage developers to code for OS 5, encourage users who want the power to upgrade. If they're going to release a trickle of OS 4 PDA's then developers will just stick to OS 4.
Oh yes, and the Tungstun slidely thing is silly. I'm going to have to spend my entire time opening and retracting it as I use grafitti a lot - which means it'll break quickly. We need to see sexy and desirable PDA's come onto the market to persuade people to upgrade. This one doesn't (maybe Sony will) ... and for god's sake, even with the low memory requirements of apps, 32 meg is peanuts! Your apps may be smaller than PPC's, but the size of your data is going to be the same.
On a final note, I wonder if OS 6 will actually appear. OS 5 could be make-or-break for Palm. If there is no interest (after all, it doesn't *look* any different and thats what Joe Blow will see) then it'll hurt them very very badly.
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The word innovate was never used, you should first get the quote right. The quote was as dramatic a change for the platform as OS X was for Apple, or NT was for Microsoft . It was a dramatic change for MS, NT was their first 32-bit OS (not counting their work on OS/2).
> weren't Windows 2000 and XP referred to
> internally as NT 5.0 and NT 5.1, respectively?
It is. Win2k retail is NT 5.00.2195. XP retail (from memory) is 5.1.2600. Type "ver" at a (NT/2k/XP) console to verify this.
it often amazes me that people will ignore the obvious solutions to what they say that they want.
Get a portable digital Audio tape player and you can 'sample' as much as you like.
simple.
It wasn't a yes-or-no question.
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Which means that licensees can swap out the Graffiti input mechanism for an alternative, such as biometrics.
Wow, so instead of writing characters to input text, I can do it with my fingerprint, retina pattern, heart rate, etc.? That's so cool!
[For the humor-impaired, that's a joke]
Anyone know what multilingual capabilities the new OS will have, i.e. character encoding support, fonts, locale-specific formatting, bidi, etc.? As far as encodings go, it would be great to see some Unicode support built in (UTF-8 or UCS-2, depending on available memory and language priorities).
I know that older versions of the OS were 8-bit (for European languages), which is fine except that you can't mix languages supported by different encoding families (can't build that killer multilingual dictionary for the Palm!).
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"and that will support Microsoft's .NET platform, among other things."
All right... PalmOS 5 it is... (no that is not a typo).
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...as you want it to be. what hype does it have to live up to?
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What would be really awesome is if Palm's new OS wan installable on Windows PocketPC hardware. I'd pay $50-100 to be able to run palm os 6.0 on an iPaq or Tosh 740 with built-in 802.11b.
It would be even cooler if they could manage to get it to dual boot. But I'd settle for one or the other. This would be great for people who's companies insist that they buy WinCE devices. They could just buy them and then buy PalmOS for it.
there's an article in the NYTimes's Circuits section today: From Inside, Palm Makes a New Start It's an interesting read
Does the .net support mean that I can look forward to being rooted if I buy it? Not all change is progress.
to be able to install palm6 on one of the current PDAs. I know my e740 will be a bit out of date as far as WinCE machines are concerned, no doubt WinCE4 will require a 1Ghz+ proc and 256MB memory.
PalmOS6 on the other hand, will still be able to run on more modest hardware. I would hope that a XScale400Mhz wouold be enough.
and to be ablke to install PalmOS6 onto my e740 and bring it up to current would be great.
I purchased a Palm 1000 the first week that it went on sale, as it seemed to be the first truly-usable PDA.
Since day 1 I've been using address book, calender, and to some degree the to-do lists and memos. The only other thing that I've ever found to be even vaguely interesting since then is the Zagat restaurant software.
I've seen a ton of other potential uses for Palms that failed -- for viewing medical records, for example. I suspect that anything small enough to fit in a pocket is too small to do many things with.
On the other hand, I've seen Microsoft, a very smart and successful company, repeatedly try to top Palm -- only to get killed by overly-complexifying Win CE.
So I wince whenen I hear that Palm is looking to add complexitity a la Win CE. I hope Palm keeps it simple! If they must add complexity, I hope that the basic things that Palms are good for do not become bloated.
Any chance of getting the Kyocera 7135 upgraded to this before it comes out?
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I have this rule. When an os relese scedual speeds up get worryed.
./ from my visor right now and mom called to tell me her i705 just crashed again.
Palm was making major releases once every few years. Thats how in all this time palm os has only gotten to ver 3 then palm releases palm os 4. Well thats about on time. 5 ok major platform change justifyed. 6... ok now we've just dubbled the major version number inside a year.
I like palm I really do. It's a small business tool. I'm posting to
But maybe that last example is the point. My Visor's not as trubblesom as her palm.
And people want movie and mp3 players etc. I don't see the big deal not like the screen on a pocket pc is any bigger.
I'll stick with my visor for now becouse I can't see myself forking over for a WinCE or Linux PDA just yet.
There are few who want Windows or Linux on a PDA but then that number is dropping...
Maybe I'll ger a Dragonix next time.
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