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4th Annual NetHack Tournament

fatquack writes "The NetHack tournament season is upon us once again. /dev/null's Fourth Annual NetHack Tournament has just opened. As with past years, the Tournament is open to anyone who'd like to play. We're also open to anyone who'd like to volunteer to run a game server since, though we have a T1 hosting the main game server, play can be slow across the transoceanic links. devnull.net is a loose association of networking geeks, unincorporated and noncommercial. We just do this for giggles; we make no money from this other than what folks feel like donating. The prize structure going in, as we're always open to suggestions to change this during the Tournament, is: Prizes The "standard" prizes will go to: Highest Score 1st, 2nd and 3rd Highest Score in each class The "additional" prizes will go to: Most Ascensions Lowest Scored Ascension This year's Tournament will begin with servers in California and Oregon, but with servers in Colorado, The Netherlands and Australia hopefully coming online in the first few days."

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  1. For all you NetHack fans.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Give Mangband a shot http://mangband.org/ if you like dungeon hacks. Open source..even a Japanese version or two.

  2. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by Romothecus · · Score: 5, Informative
    Nethack is different from most other "dungeon crawls" in that it is about content and strategy, instead of action and eye candy. There are hundreds of different items in Nethack, some magical, some mundane, all with some kind of use. Any troubling situation you find yourself can can be solved various ways, and no two solutions will yield the same outcome. The game leaves a lot of room open for play style; try playing Barbarian, then try Ranger or (if you're a masochist) Tourist.

    If you want more specific, in-depth information about Nethack (including some spoilers about dungeon depth, as you asked) then go to List of Nethack Spoilers which contains A LOT of information about Nethack. The other great thing about Nethack is that it's open-source, which should automatically get it kudos with most of the people here. :p

  3. Re:4th Annual NetHack Tournament and cheaters by fatquack · · Score: 5, Informative

    First: the team of the tournament are rather experienced coders themself. Second: there is no client executable, the games run on the (dedicated) servers. You just use SSH or even Telnet to play. And if you want to walk through walls, just polymorph yourself in a Xorn :-)

  4. Re:4th Annual NetHack Tournament and cheaters by Nazghal · · Score: 3, Informative

    The client isn't in the hands of the enemy. It's running on their own servers. All you can do is send input characters to their servers. No code runs locally at all. You literally play over a telnet session or the equivalent there of.

    Disclaimer: At least that's how i remember the last one operating, /. effect prevents confirming this event is the same.

  5. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by jericho4.0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you don't get Nethack, you might not ever, but before you decide....

    Play at least 30 games. The multitude of actions you can do at any time is huge. This leads to very open-ended gameplay, with no two games the same.You'll die 20 times on the 3rd level, and next game you outwit some 15th level monster and walk away with a wicked weapon, etc. It's highly rewarding.

    Other things I love about Nethack;It's net-aware and Unix friendly, delivering emails via messengers and other neato tricks. It runs on the console, and it has a wacked sense of humor, in the best tradition of oldskool Unix hacking.

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  6. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It isn't actually lame, it is just hard and complicated. Minesweeper it is not. It does get better. I'll play for 20 hours at a stretch if my wife lets me. As to why you should try it? Why should you play any game? Nethack is challenging, fun, surprising, and can take years to master.

    Some tips:

    Starting out, play a Valkyrie. They're quite formidable. Add non-cursed armor as you find it.

    Don't wield/wear cursed items (one's a pet won't walk over).

    Don't eat anything your pets won't eat. (_Old_ corpses, kobolds)

    Refer to the spoilers often (online or in /usr/doc/nethack-spoilers).

  7. I know you can't use it by SquadBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    for the tournament. But if you want the gameplay of Nethack with rather cool graphics and music try Falconseye

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  8. A Nethack tournament link by LordOfYourPants · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can be found here.

  9. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by LoveMe2Times · · Score: 3, Informative

    Better: Yes. More Interesting: Yes. How many Levels: Yes. Getting into Nethack requires a little patience. Then again, so does Chess. They're both no fun when you don't know what you're doing. Nethack is miserably dull when you keep starving on dungeon level 2 and keep starting over again and again and again... What you've missed, though, is that Nethack is the deepest game ever made. By that, I mean most games make you do what the programmers' want you to do. This is because the interactions between items, actions, bad guys and such is combinatoric in nature, so games that have a fixed dev schedule only implement a tiny fraction of interactions. This is why you must find the "Magic Key" to open the door, rather than just kicking it down. In Nethack, you can kick the door down. Unless you're a tourist, in which case you might hurt yourself trying. You can also try picking the lock. This can work well on locked chests too. You might not want to kick chests open, because that can destroy some things inside (like potions in glass bottles...) You see, Nethack has been in development for a VERY LONG time by people who aren't wasting time making pretty graphics. This means that people have come up with interesting, clever, and often funny interactions for so many corner cases that you will likely never exhaust the possibilities of this game. Toss in multiple character classes, and randomly generated dungeons, and you have a game with more replayability than anything else I can think of. Oh, and it's HARD. You only get one life. You die, you start over. Makes you actually think about what you're doing, and makes all these decisions really matter. Oh, and one piece of advice for the newbie: if you're about to starve on one of the early levels, try praying, and don't eat zombie corpses.

  10. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Informative
    The key words there are "typefaces which are supposed to be..."

    One of the great things about Nethack is how much is left to your own imagination. The experience is somewhat akin to listening to a baseball game on the radio, which can often be a richer experience than watching it on TV. Gameplay, content, and humor make Nethack quite simply the best computer game I've ever played, period.

    How many other games can you come back to years later and still find them entertaining?

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  11. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, the VS can only be so many squares in from the edges--four, I think, but read the spoilers if you care to know. That shrinks down the area a lot. Next, I can't be under a wall. Still, if I have some renewable means of digging (e.g. a pick-axe, though the dig spell works wonders as a wizard with that nice amulet :) I'll gladly use that instead. Now, dig through only the walls to the left & right & run along from right to left, covering all the squares. Once you find the VS, put something on the ground to the side of it (e.g. an iron chain) so you don't lose it, teleport to the stairs & go back up to kill Rodney (do NOT kill him before you find the VS, it's just asking for trouble... you just know that he'll double trouble you right when you've found the VS & will steall all the stuff you need for the invocation...)

    As for the trap-detection scrolls, grab the wand of wishing in the castle. You have 6 wishes even if you don't have a blessed ? of charging already--MORE than enough to get what you need. Besides, they're useless on water, anyhow. You should just genocide ; put on a ring of searching & rest for a while.

    You can't avoid dying on the first turn to a fire trap, though it's incredibly unlikely. I've only ever hit the 'do not pass go, do not collect 200 zorkmids' message on purpose. Besides, you've put *NOTHING* into such a character, so start over already! It's *much* worse when you have your brains sucked out in Moloch's sanctum :/

    BTW, the invocation *IS* available, more or less, from both the Oracle & the messages you get if you mis-used the bell, book & candle. The only caveat is that the bell has to be charged, but that's no biggie, so long as you identified it. Your quest leader tells you that that stupid bell is important, anyhow.

    You might find the game more fun if you'd beaten it a few times, though :] It doesn't seem all that fun until you're *finally* running a char who can make it. E.G. that time I found that wand of wishing in the *first* room. So much for Archaeologists being "challenging" ;] It's *so* much easier wandering about wielding a blessed +2 Grayswandir, wearing +2 SDSM & blessed fireproof +2 boots of speed... =]

  12. Re:I don't understand what's up with Nethack by Scarblac · · Score: 3, Informative

    In Nethack, you can kick the door down.

    Or you can, say:

    • Zap it with a wand that destroys it
    • Pick the lock
    • Polymorph into an acid blob or so and ooze under the door
    • Polymorph into a Xorn and walk through the door
    • Dig around the door
    • Go up a level, dig down, jump through the hole, hope you end up behind the door
    • Teleport to the other side
    • Unlock the door with the spell of Knock, then open it
    • Have the door hit by a disintegration ray (from a black dragon that misses you, or by polymorphing into one)

    And this is just a start. There are options like this with anything you can do in the game. If I want to impress people with Nethack I try to tell them of all the strange situations that can happen with cockatrices... Say a monster has gloves on, picks up a cockatrice corpse and wields it... You put on your ring of conflict, the nymph next to him steals his gloves, he turns to stone :-).

    And that's why Nethack is unique!

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