Galileo To Commit Mechacide

taylor writes "The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the old explorer spacecraft Galileo will soon commit suicide after flying a final mission. The spacecraft has been orbiting Juptiter for seven years. Tomorrow, Galileo will pass Amalthea, a tiny moon of that planet, to gather information about the moon's gravitational pull on the spacecraft, and thus about its material makeup. Immediately thereafter, Galileo will move quickly through Jupiter's rings, exposing itself to 100 times the radiation a human could withstand. The spacecraft will likely not survive; it is already crippled from the large amounts of radiation it has encountered thus far. In any case, Galileo will then begin its final orbit of Jupiter, ending next September in a fatal crash into the planet's dense atmosphere. Read the full article on SMH.com.au."

Comments

Alas

[Mordac]

Alas poor Galikeo, we barely knew you. You shall be missed. I only wish there was someway for us to talk you out of this. To each probe there own.

Re:Alas

[Wolfrider]

Can somebody tell me why we have to go to an AUSTRALIAN SITE to get good space news on Galileo?? Where is the U.S. coverage? After all, we built the probe!!
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(I have nothing against Aussies, it's just the Principle of the thing, you know?)
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Stand forth and acknowledge

[devphil]

Its camera and tape recorder are playing up, it is almost out of the fuel needed to control balance and its voice has been reduced to a whisper, thanks to its main antenna jamming shut years ago, cutting the expected flood of information and pictures to a trickle.

Tomorrow, as Galileo sweeps closer to Jupiter than ever, it will encounter twice as much radiation.

They don't build 'em like they used to. RIP, Galileo.

Radiation?

[mr100percent]

I was under the impression that radiation was only dangerous to organic life forms. How could it damage machines?

Re:Radiation?

[Anonymous Coward]

As an example, take EMP. That's just electromagnetic radiation but machines are not too fond of it (they go kaput).

Radiation damages biological systems by smacking the DNA. It's the same sort of deal with a machine, little bits of it get whacked by some radiation. It's not quite as vulnerable since damage to one structure doesn't go on to replicate itself like cancer does in the biological world.

Re:Radiation?

[Wyatt Earp]

The magnetic field of Jupiter are very strong.

http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/personnel/russell/p ap ers/jup_mag/

"It also has the largest magnetic moment (computed as the product of the equatorial surface field and the cube of the planetary radius). Consequently it also has the largest magnetosphere in the solar system, large enough to encompass easily the Sun and the visible corona. If the Jovian magnetosphere were visible from Earth, it would be bigger than the Moon in the night sky. Jupiter is also a powerful emitter of radio waves. Its giant magnetosphere acts both as a trap and an accelerator of energetic charged particles. The most energetic of the trapped electrons radiate at radio frequencies, and it was the radio frequency radiation that led in 1955 to the discovery that Jupiter had a magnetic field (Burke and Franklin,1955). Jupiter's magnetosphere differs importantly from the Earth's magnetosphere in that its energy is predominantly derived from sources internal to the magnetosphere rather than through its interaction with the solar wind."

Here is a real-world illustration of a radiation effect on machines, take an external power supply from a Deskwriter series HP printer, set it next to a CRT monitor and watch the fun happen.

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0012/30galileora d/

"Exposure to Jupiter's intense radiation caused two effects -- an alarm received from Galileo's camera system, and a computer reset of the non-spinning portion of the spacecraft. The reset was a transient event that has happened during radiation exposures on several previous orbits. The computer reset was handled properly by onboard software responses, and mission engineers are investigating the out-of-the-ordinary measurement that triggered the camera alarm.

Other systems on Galileo were operating normally more than 12 hours after the closest approach to Jupiter.

"Adverse effects from the radiation close to Jupiter are not unexpected," said Jim Erickson, Galileo project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Galileo had already endured more than three times the cumulative radiation exposure it was designed to withstand, and has operated more than three years above and beyond its original two-year mission in orbit around Jupiter.

Galileo had flown within 2,337 kilometers (1,452 miles) of Jupiter's largest moon, Ganymede, and taken images of it several hours before the camera began indicating a possible problem. The camera and other scientific instruments onboard the orbiter are continuing to record data about Jupiter and its moons."

Radiation can be very damaging to machines. It can degrade the strength of metals, plastics and ceramics used in the construction of the spacecraft. It will damage electronics and can effect the ability of the batteries to take a charge.

It's hostile out there in space, and not just because of the cold/hot and lack of atmosphere.

Re:Radiation?

[spaceyhackerlady]

I was under the impression that radiation was only dangerous to organic life forms. How could it damage machines?

There are several mechanisms.

Radiation neutralizes the stored charge in EPROMs. This is the same mechanism as erasing them with UV light. At one time people just didn't use them in space applications, but have now found that you can if you're careful, and don't leave them in space too long. Flash is still generally off-limits.

Radiation can alter the characteristics of semiconductor junctions.

Radiation can alter the characteristics of passive components.

And so on...

...laura

farewell

[JimFromJersey]

Farewell and following seas, brave explorer.

silicon or something like it

[EEgopher]

if the radiation were to alter or ruin the physical structure of the transistors' semiconductor lattice, the resulting electrical signals could be distorted beyond utility or recovery.
The semiconductors are doped by high-velocity, high-temperature particle bombardment. I imagine radiation could have a counterintuitively destructive effect.

Re:silicon or something like it

[Anonymous Coward]

counterintuitively ?

Talking out your ass?

such few posts

[Anonymous Coward]

I feel so bad, Can't we at least get in to the double digits?

NASA is littering other planets now?

[ruiner13]

They don't have enough garbage crashing back into Earth they now need to litter other planets too?

OMG (Intercepted msg from Jupiter)

[Anonymous Coward]

All citizens of Jupiter and surrounding moons beware!! Kamikaze spacecraft from third plant attemting a sucide attack on our peace loving planet and moons. All patriots please gather your children under beds and pray to GOD that this devious little craft would burn up before hurting a single voting citizen of this great jovial nation. GOD BLESS JUPITER.

And in other news. 13 year old space explorer, Galileo was found dead in the dense clouds surrounding Jupiter. Cause of death is still not determined. But an offical (under anonynimity) told us that the little craft commited suicide. Memebers of immediate family gathered at the fringes of the solar system and sighed a coded sigh of rememberance.

Re:OMG (Intercepted msg from Jupiter)

[Anonymous Coward]

HEHE dude, I just spilled mountain dew all over my laptop thanks to you!

Better, More Expensive, Slower

[zer0vector]

Galileo is one of the prime examples of how good NASA can be when its not trying to cut corners. Sure it takes 10 years to develop a mission, and costs a couple billion, but they work far beyond their expected lifetimes. Galileo and the Voyager spacecraft just go to show that you get what you pay for. Even malfunctions like Galileo's infamous antenna are not mission ending failures for a sturdily built craft.

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[BTWR]

Mod parent up! Those 4 sentences are brilliant advice for NASA. Just because they lost Mars Observer, they have been so reluctant to build anymore "Christmas Tree" spacecraft (like Vger, Pioneer, Galileo, etc). They work great and are very versitile.

(btw, No Casinni was approved way before MO was lost).

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[Anonymous Coward]

NASA is one of the prime examples of how much of your money is wasted through government programs. Everything NASA does could have been accomplished much cheaper and better by a private company, with very little corruption, inefficiency, and wasted resources.

If you say that space exploration is important, put your money where your mouth is; Organize and fund a private project. And if you don't get enough money to fund one, then maybe it isn't that important to most people after all.

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[A Bugg]

ah yes you mean like the lack of corruption, inefficiency and wasted resources that were part of such great corporations as enron, worldcom, tyco, etc. yeah private corporations they are god sent angels.
a bugg

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[Anonymous Coward]

There are most certainly bad private companies as well as bad ones. (Corporations are not private, BTW.) However, you are not forced to contribute any of my time or money to them. You are forced, at gunpoint, to contribute money to NASA.

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[Anonymous Coward]

There are most certainly bad private companies as well as bad ones. (Corporations are not private, BTW.) However, you are not forced to contribute any of my time or money to them. You are forced, at gunpoint, to contribute money to NASA, whether you like their practices or not. (This only applies to U.S. residents, of course.)

Re:Better, More Expensive, Slower

[Black Copter Control]

Everything NASA does could have been accomplished much cheaper and better by a private company, with very little corruption, inefficiency, and wasted resources.

And everything that Enron or Worldcom does could have been done by a government organization with "very little corruption, inefficiency, and wasted resources." The two are simply different ways of doing things. Neither is really intrinsicly better than the other. In both cases, a decent method of oversight is needed.

It should be noted, however, that it is very unlikely that one could have convinced a private company to do what NASA is doing in terms of basic exploration -- especially basic exploration where the resulting knowledge is available to the public.

Yes we could have paid a public corporation to create a probe like Galileo, but that is essentially what NASA did. Much of what Nasa does is chose which company is going to be making the probes, the Shuttle, etc.

On the other hand, What private corporation with a sane mind would have seriously considered taking on what NASA has done? it's taken decades of ($Billions++ ) net-loss basic research and exploration to get us to the point where private corporations are taking a serious look at doing their own space research. Without NASA we would not have the basic technology and space knowledge needed for a company to seriously consider such an effort.

hurray!

[teridon]

Now SOHO might get some more time on the Deep Space Network (DSN).

Maybe radiation will mutate it!

[Anonymous Coward]

*gets flashbacks from Star Trek*

No...

[denisonbigred]

Mechacide is when I start twitching and punch a hole through my monitor when my computer crashes... in the middle of my midterm paper.

Re:No...

[Cyno01]

*obligaroty ellen switch ad reference reply*

quite an odyssey

[zelphi]

Will it sing "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer please" as it bursts into flames?

I don't think so dave.

[His Excellency]

I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a...fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.

NASA

[Omkar]

I think NASA shows admirable foresight in not wanting to contaminate Europa.

Re:NASA

[SEWilco]

I believe you meant "in wanting to not contaminate Europa". Your phrasing suggests that NASA should be wanting to contaminate but did not have that want. Actually NASA is aware of the risk of contaminating Jupiter's moons and is destroying the craft before they lose control of it. Abandoning in orbit is not safe, as something adrift in Jupiter orbit could be flung anywhere due to the many forces there.

Re:NASA

[jafuser]

NASA, Mr Webster explained, did not want the ailing craft accidentally colliding with Europa, a Jovian moon thought to be covered in a salt-water ocean under a global ice cap. "Galileo may be carrying Earthly microbes that could contaminate the environment with life. We don't want to seed Europa with anything organic."

Bah.. liars... they are just heeding the warning...

"All these worlds are yours -- except Europa. Attempt no landings there."

Many of you feel sorry for this spacecraft...

[zollman]

That is because you crazy! It has no feelings. And the new one is much better.

Re:Many of you feel sorry for this spacecraft...

[orthogonal]

That is because you crazy! It has no feelings. And the new one is much better.

IKEA's selling space probes now??

Are the instructions in English or metric?

Re:Many of you feel sorry for this spacecraft...

[Greedo]

Are the instructions in English or metric?

Really, would it matter?

Re:Many of you feel sorry for this spacecraft...

[AndroidCat]

IKEA's selling space probes now??

Sure, but it comes with a funny name, and you have to assemble it yourself with one of those little hex keys.

Re:Many of you feel sorry for this spacecraft...

[SomeoneGotMyNick]

but it comes with a funny name
It's called Pröba and the manual is on a 11x17 foldout diagram with pictures (no words) indicating how to hook it to a slingshot and send it off to space.
Versions of this product in green and orange (the only colors available) have been seen on some episodes of Trading Spaces

Almathea?

[Ignominious Cow Herd]

I thought that was the planet where Slartibartfast did all his lovely work on the fjords. What's it doing around Jupiter?

Re:Almathea?

[Wetware]

That would be Magrathea.

Units people!

[Flakeloaf]

Scientist Guy: So the satellite will pass within a few thousand metres of the planet, where it will then...

(whispers)

feet? What do you mean feet?

It would be nice...

[KEHT]

To return one of those probes back. It would provide a wealth of information on the effects of radiation and other space agents on various materials and electronics. May be stick a few automated experiments for scientific purposes.

Re:It would be nice...

[meringuoid]

To return one of those probes back. It would provide a wealth of information on the effects of radiation and other space agents on various materials and electronics. May be stick a few automated experiments for scientific purposes.

We did get part of the Surveyor probe back; that was a robot moon lander. ISTR Alan Shepard brought bits of it home on Apollo 12. He was promptly disqualified for improving the lie of his ball, and thus his legendary golf shot never counted.

Bringing probes back from deep space is rarely an option - it's a matter of energy. Galileo is irrevocably trapped in the Jupiter system, and doesn't have the fuel to get out of that colossal gravity well; meanwhile Voyager is barreling out of the Solar System at a ridiculous speed, and hasn't a hope of turning round.

Perhaps we might have been able to bring Deep Space One home at the end of its planned mission, but instead it was decided to send it on a rendezvous course with a comet; a high-risk mission that paid off magnificently.

Burning up or freezing to death and returning data to the last has got to be a better fate for a probe than being grabbed by some astronaut and put in a museum...

Re:It would be nice...

[Anonymous Coward]

but if we got the spaceprobe back, who knows if it would be contaminated with space cells? perhaps some of them carry homosexuality. it would be on the safe side to never let anything that went far into space return home

Galileo is going ...

[Anonymous Coward]

...into that Great Red Spot in the sky...

mars viking lander:Radiation and Core memory

[goombah99]

I worked on the mars viking lander project. The viking lander used a high tech variation of core memory for ram and for storage it used a steel tape used in a tape recorder. You are probably wondering why they did not use ordinary magnetic tape and silicon RAM. well in addition to radiation concerns there was a bigger issue.

NASA was very worried about contaminating mars so the entire lander had to be autoclaved on earth. the high temperatures of the autoclave would destroy ordinary magnetic tape. and the core memoery was low power since it is non-volatile.

For you kids who dont know what "core" memory is (or why for example you get files called "core" dumps on your computer when a program crashes) gramps will explain. Core origiginally was a donut shaped peice of ferrite. Next imagine set of 100 parallel wires spaced 1cm appart. on top of this is laying another set of 100 parallel wires running at right angles to the first set. At every crossing point in this grid a small ferrite disk is threaded by these two wires. and voila random access memory. each core is a single bit. to program it you run a current equal to half the hysterisis level down one of the wires in the first set and an equivalent current down one of the second set of wires. Only one core, at the insterescion, gets the double dose of current that exceeds the hysterisis value. this flips the magnetic polarization of the donut. To read it out one simply monitors the inductance: if you flip the bit the voltage is higher than if you are not flipping it. turn off the power and the magnetic memory stays. It is impervious to cosmic rays. the donuts are called "cores". why these are called cores is a different topic

Core memory on the viking lander was a bit more sophisticated. the magnetic material was coated/evaporated directly onto the wires so the whole thing could be very dense.

Silicon memory was available back then but it was not deemed relaible in the face of unknown radiation levels, and thermal stress. It was a great sacrifice to have such a small amount of ram (core has low bit density compared to silicon). But it was the only way to solve the problems.

Re:mars viking lander:Radiation and Core memory

[Kissing Crimson]

Why do I always run out of moderator points just before running across comments like this?

Following its namesake.

[JohnFred]

Galileo himself died nearly blind, so there's a certain poignancy to the fate of this machine.

I must point out that the idea that his blindness was due to observations of the Sun is a myth: he made the observations by projection, the way anyone with half a brain would. His blindness was actually due to glaucoma and cataracts at the age of 72. My source is Galileo's Daughter by Dava Sobel.

Finally the heretic will BURN

[zrk]

Ok, it's a few hundred years too late for the original, but at least we may burn his proxy for his crimes.

Galileo's ideas are just not in sync with the Catholic Church. The Earth is the center of it all.

Re:Finally the heretic will BURN

[ripewithdecay]

What, you don't believe in the philosophy that we are the center of our OWN universes, which is our own personal universe?

For shame.

Re:Radiation? about that DHCP sig

[Anonymous Coward]

rarp,bootparamd,dhcp

they are often used to give an asking MAC address the same ip address everytime and hand out kernels to diskless workstations.

just because you are a stuid fuck or work for a stupid fuckhole that forgot the roots of dhcp.

also, dhcp via mac authentication is a good security measure. you can block all static atempts and random cards but allow certain mac addresses to get ips.

also, isc dhcpd tends to try and hand out the same ip once it has seen a mac before.

you cutsie fartsy artsie sig is fucking lame.

Re:Radiation? about that DHCP sig

[Anonymous Coward]

Ad homenim attacks ensue.

I've been called a "stuid fuck" by better people than you.

Re:Radiation? about that DHCP sig

[Anonymous Coward]

Those who are smarter than me, however rare, are probably more adept at character judgment. I would have settled for just plain "fucker", but those who are smarter more appropriately dub you "stupid fuck," great! The would have to be correct.